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musho3210
04-02-2007, 8:05 PM
http://www.tampabaysaltwater.com/thepackage/package_chart.html
the 20 gallon package, is it any good? Too many things? Not enough things? I like it since it makes the live rock only 4 dollars a pound rather than 5 and the live sand is 1 dollar a pound rather than 2 dollars, and it also comes with snails and hermit crabs which i like too, so anything to say on this? My main concern is the starfish, will it fit in my tank or should i give it to my lfs?
Reefscape
04-03-2007, 5:03 AM
The package does look quite good yes mate..i would not put in the star though...
Niko
TBS gets all kinds of excellent reviews on one of the other sw forums. There's a thread there that's so long with so many replies it's been split 6 or 8 times. I was going to order from them myself, but money got a little tight when it came time to add LR, so we ended up buying it in small batches locally and mixing in base rock until we had enough rock. A year later and our tank is doing very well, but we certainly don't have some of the more exotic hitchhikers that are suppose to be common with TBS rock.
I'd skip the star as well.
musho3210
04-03-2007, 10:41 AM
what about the cucumbers?
Reefscape
04-03-2007, 10:47 AM
i would not as when stressed, they dump themselves and this can be toxic to the tank inhabitants...just an opinion
Niko
musho3210
04-03-2007, 11:22 AM
ok i dont think im gonna get the package, thanks all
Germanman
04-03-2007, 12:22 PM
The package does look quite good yes mate..i would not put in the star though...
Niko
agreed
i would not as when stressed, they dump themselves and this can be toxic to the tank inhabitants...just an opinion
Niko
the tiger tails dont release a poison they are the kind that toss up their intestines to distract the predator and crawl away.
Reefscape
04-03-2007, 12:26 PM
we dont know what type of cucumber though G'Man...which is why i said what i did...
Niko
Germanman
04-03-2007, 12:43 PM
we dont know what type of cucumber though G'Man...which is why i said what i did...
Niko
it said tiger tail on the link in the box
oh and its a serpent star so it would do fine.
Reefscape
04-03-2007, 12:46 PM
Tiger tails can still expell their organs which can be toxic to fish..
Niko
Germanman
04-03-2007, 12:49 PM
Tiger tails can still expell their organs which can be toxic to fish..
Niko
no the organs are good to eat thats what distracts the fish.
Reefscape
04-03-2007, 12:52 PM
really? i would check on that one mate...you put doubt in my mind when you said that, so i had to check it out..but check these links...
http://www.liveaquaria.com/product/prod_Display.cfm?pCatId=712
http://www.marinedepotlive.com/tiger-tail-cucumber---baseodiscus-species-inverts--cucumbers.html
Niko
Germanman
04-03-2007, 1:03 PM
really? i would check on that one mate...you put doubt in my mind when you said that, so i had to check it out..but check these links...
http://www.liveaquaria.com/product/prod_Display.cfm?pCatId=712
http://www.marinedepotlive.com/tiger-tail-cucumber---baseodiscus-species-inverts--cucumbers.html
Niko
well fosters say may...my marine biology teacher and other books ive read say no....but u never know. as for what marine depo says yes there is a membrane that they can expel if the die...but it rarely happens and they usually just die and dont release it. i can pick those guys up and prod them for 15mins outa water and all they do is squirt water at u.
Reefscape
04-03-2007, 1:08 PM
well, we have conflicting reports about this species then....i know you say rarely happens, but, the point being is that it can happen and people do need to be aware of that if they are going to put one into their tank..I would like to have a cucumber in my reef, but the research i have done on them all give the warning and i would not want the "risk" of it happening if you understand where i am coming from mate...
Niko
Germanman
04-03-2007, 1:49 PM
well, we have conflicting reports about this species then....i know you say rarely happens, but, the point being is that it can happen and people do need to be aware of that if they are going to put one into their tank..I would like to have a cucumber in my reef, but the research i have done on them all give the warning and i would not want the "risk" of it happening if you understand where i am coming from mate...
Niko
yup very true man!:)
u juts have to watch out for the sea apples. they rest are no harm and ive tried them all out. a good filter or skimmer will pull out the poison of the rest very quickly. the worst problem with the cucumber is getting them to feed.
musho3210
04-03-2007, 2:20 PM
so if i run activated carbon with the cuke the poison should leave?
Live aquaria says 3" of worm per 20 gallons, and these cukes grow to a foot, isnt that a bit much for a 20 gallon?
Germanman
04-03-2007, 2:22 PM
so if i run activated carbon with the cuke the poison should leave?
most time yes but not always. a water change after is always safe as well. but the tiger ails gets so large a better sifter would be a goby or a fighting conch.
musho3210
04-03-2007, 2:32 PM
ok im not going with the package then, thanks all
Germanman
04-03-2007, 2:34 PM
ok im not going with the package then, thanks all
np good luck:)
musho3210
04-03-2007, 3:05 PM
it seems better for 50 gallon+, if i do infact get a larger tank i will probably get the package
Michael Marino
04-03-2007, 9:05 PM
IMO i think that is a little too pricey :) but thats cause i am poor
musho3210
04-03-2007, 11:10 PM
no the price is the thing thats nice
Do you think you'll still buy the LR from them, even though you won't get one the of packages?
musho3210
04-04-2007, 10:47 AM
yeah im still getting LR from them, 20 pounds of it, then at my lfs i'll get 10 pounds base rock