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OldManOfTheSea
04-17-2007, 10:21 AM
This is a email I gotten in return from that link in that 850 gal reef tank, I think it was.




Buddy,
So sorry for the delayed response, but I found this email in the ‘spam’ folder.

Asking ‘how much for a website’ is like asking ‘how much for a house’. It involves several conditional disclaimers and cost depends on may factors. Individual needs definitely influence pricing, but in short - if you’re looking for something very similar to oregonreef.com in terms of content, design, and functionality it will probably run $2k - $3k for design and development.

Generally speaking though freelance work is done by the hour. My freelance hourly rate is $45. Oregonreef.com was in the $2500-3000 range I believe. If you’re not dead-set on something customized from a professional designer, then you can always use a template-based system or some consumer-level approaches to creating a web presence. Hiring a dedicated designer/developer like myself may be more than you’re after. Let me know if you have any questions or concerns. Hope this helps.

Piero Ardizone
xocea.com




Mr. Piero, Thank you on your reply. I do happen to be looking for the best possible quailty that I can get and it detours me none of the cost for it other then when I might look into possibly when I might begin this. I not mentioned much in my email request to your firm, but these tanks as yet are yet to begin with any live stock. This however will be slow moving, as well as much reading be involved. As well as in the forum link to where I learn of your link, all the members there know who readied my thread that I will not begin with the first major SPS coral until following after the fifth month from the first corals which be place into these tanks.

I will tell you this as well, I will shop around looking for other possible host for my tanks. What I will do just the same from the start is take many photos and they will be dated as well in monthly folders.

I not a question on the cost, but rather on the hourly rate figure, this will be that you mean you can assist me as well in my typing errors or it not? I explained well enough in my request email to learn what it would take to have a host link as yours, and that charge is a one time deal, is it not? That the only charges after would I be looking at is the assistance you be giving me in having the best possible link?

If I can find nothing better, in cost wise or as great a link which you offer, we will in time what if it be in a few years down the road. The reason on that be is that I need a great deal of money once I begin stocking both reef tanks for I expect it to round me anywhere from $20,000 and up.

I have no problem with your freelance fee rate, my only question there be if you be assisting me on any explanations I will make on the corals/fish, or updates of these tanks? Im sure that you can see why im asking you of this in this return response. For many in those aquarium forums not understand me most the time due to my typing skills and there be another problem within this in which I would only explain as best I could if you make that request, but I can say however say that its due to a medical problem which I have.

Sincerely,
Buddy

So with that my fellow marine hobbyists, can any of you direct me to other possible links I might be able to use later on?

Buddy

Germanman
04-17-2007, 1:45 PM
well what is it that u are looking for?

OldManOfTheSea
04-17-2007, 8:15 PM
Germanman, it figures that after so many viewed this that not one understood what it be all about. In any case, I later on when the tanks are stock with coral to have my own personal site for my tanks. It happens to be one other thing in which I were planning on. So that site that host that 850 gal tank, their cost for the link be from $2,500 to $3,000 with an hourly fee of $45.

I wish to find other links to where I might get my tanks on to host my systems. I do hope now that you understand what it be im looking for :huh:

Buddy

Germanman
04-17-2007, 8:20 PM
why dont u use a free web hosting site like
https://www2.blogger.com/start
(http://www.blogspot.com)

OldManOfTheSea
04-18-2007, 2:02 AM
Sorry, but the link not opens :o

Reefscape
04-18-2007, 3:56 AM
Try again buddy....

https://www2.blogger.com/start

Niko

OldManOfTheSea
04-18-2007, 4:57 AM
Blogger is it? Strange looking site it be, lol

I see that I need to sign in to view anything I guess, I will try this later for I'm with the kids right now for I have to take them to their pre-schools and two the kids from before 3 AM had kept me up for at my age if I get just a few hours sleep, its enough at most times.

But at this site, will my photos be small and to view larger you only need to click on them? And will any quality be lost from this link?

Buddy

Reefscape
04-18-2007, 5:04 AM
the trouble with sites that host video and picture is that poeple's perceptions of quality will differ from person to person...My opinion would be to sign up for it and have a look around..

I have setup myself an account and put up a sample picture so you can see what its like Buddy..

http://atnixon.blogspot.com/

Niko

OldManOfTheSea
04-18-2007, 5:09 AM
Got to go now, I will check thiongs out afterwards, thanks :thm:

OldManOfTheSea
04-18-2007, 1:29 PM
Well Niko and Germanman, I sign up there, but can find nothing of others with either marine tanks or coral reef systems. I typed titles in all kind of different ways, and nothing comes up. I cannot make my own opinion to what if I like the link or not without seeing other peoples personal links. I did just thought that maybe I would post some of those pictures I from my LFS and see if how that turn out.

I see yours Niko, why is the water cloudy? Its funny, for I copy your names as you have it and nothing comes up as well as I copy your link here and click to search, and nothing. So if you not supplied the link, no one might ever see it, LOL

So Niko, you been to to aquarium in Brooklyn>

Here, this is what I tested it with:

http://oldmanofthesea38.blogspot.com/

I one thought however,. and that is just how many people would ever see yours and my own tanks once were done with our stocking them and all?

There is one thought however in this site being as free as it is, I not have any assistance in my typing skills as well as the medical problem in which causes me a lack of better to express myself :(

Buddy

Reefscape
04-18-2007, 3:16 PM
Hey there buddy....that was just a pic of my new reef when i filled it, the cloudyness was from the sand.....hence also the sump not running...clowns had to go in there as the bucket got knocked over that they were in while i was moving the old tank...

Never been to Brooklyn mate, i live in the UK..

You will not find mine if you search as it not available for searching, no point as there is basically nothing on there to look at...i only really created the acount so you could have a look at the picture qualities etc etc...however, now i have created it, and been playing around, i shall do it properly now...see, you've sparked me off Buddy....he he he

I think you should percevier with the blogg spot Buddy, i think it could turn into something very good when you fire up your systems...

Niko

OldManOfTheSea
04-18-2007, 4:04 PM
I could however once started, post the link each time so it would be known but it still however leaves me with one problem, my horrible typing skills and im the first to admit it. :rolleyes:

I can that is if that other link for later on can make me some offer to want to do a series of business for there be much to paste as far as what species of corals or fish and details on their updates as well.

For my question right now to that link I pasted here is if their freelance includes writing for that is also what freelancing is about.

OH, I figured as much that tank were just setup not too long ago or so and those tanks you seen in the photo also have no skimmer running at the time and yet are cleared and is why I ordered a certain type of ER skimmer for the 240 that is $1,000

I know you don't live in Brooklyn, for I only thought from the photos you pasted there be that you might had visited it.

So if I fine nothing else for the time being, I would do as I said I would do by from start to finish to when I take photos to date them and keep them in their monthly folders and I would as well, keep a record in books as well as on my computer and once all that's either done or near to be completed, I might then look to have that first link I shown you of or told you about that hostess that 850 gal tank that many are commenting about. Shucks, me too, that tanks makes my 180 and 240 look like chicken feed, LMBO

Only as chicken feed tanks, they had so far ran me more then $34,000 and I no live stock as yet. :eek:

One other thing im starting to look into, on the idea of large batteries back ups. I get lots of surges here and most happens during the summer/hot months and their be power flickers most every or just any day.


see, you've sparked me off Buddy....
Sorry that I touched your nerves :devil:

Buddy

Reefscape
04-18-2007, 4:20 PM
Sorry that I touched your nerves

No no, not at all, i meant you sparked me off to actually carry on a setup the blog..you know..pushed me into gear to get it done if you understand me Buddy...

Niko

OldManOfTheSea
04-18-2007, 4:37 PM
I understood that, Im only saying that I did. I mean that my brain cannot be that far gone. HHHHHMMMMMM, maybe it is with all those drugs that are out in our streets, shucks, Im smoking one now :Angel:

Reefscape
04-18-2007, 4:56 PM
Buddy, if all that your worried about is the typing etc etc, i am more than happy to help you with that...just bash it out on an email, send it too me, i will sort it, mail it you back and you can then paste it onto your blog....

Niko

OldManOfTheSea
04-18-2007, 5:42 PM
Buddy, if all that your worried about is the typing etc etc, i am more than happy to help you with that

Well now, I guess then that you could be my freelance and being that it not be simply a few times or more, that we would be looking at a countless, number of times for there will be so much to explain as well as giving data and so forth.

Now like these two tanks niko, I had them in plan on paper for now what's almost six years. For if I knew that the tanks would be on the same wall as you seen in the photo, I would had gotten it as one tank system in that case.

For my thoughts were to put the 180 in the main living room which we call as the family room, but the floor in that area is to weak and supports only might not hold as well.

As for right now, I'm waiting for my lfs guy to get in the ballast for these tanks that I understood that his all the replacement lighting. For the two larger jobs is the lights on both tanks and sump on the 240.

What happened there is, my lfs guy knew that I wanted a custom build sump, that I wanted it looking beautiful. When I gone back to this guy after a period where he wasn't to do these tanks anymore for I wasn't about to start paying somebody else to do the same thing and pay another $7-$8,000 more that at that time if he wasn't to finish these tanks, that I would then proceeded to take him to court and see about getting most my money back.
He then said that he would do these tanks, that the only problem is that it can be months more before this is all done and that I could finally start looking to stock these tanks. After learning of the huge extra cost to do these tanks, I was honestly had called it quits if he not would completed the tanks. For my idea from the start of more then 12 years ago was to have the reef and eel tanks only, that I now more then eight years ago had giving up on the idea to own just F/O tanks, or any F/O tanks for that matter.


So im sure or pretty sure that once the lights and sump are done, that the other odd and ends would follow rather quick and once completed I would then start to have the lights on to get some micro algae going before adding the hundreds of hermits and snails. And that the first two corals in both tanks will be leather corals and would move slowly from there.

only now is, the wait to when he will move himself and complete what was agreed for that sump on the 240, what that is............ It is the sump I wanted from when I first began paying for. For when I told him that I wanted a custom build sump, he said that it is a custom build sump and I told him that it is a custom build tank, that there be a world of differences from that and a custom build sump and he had nothing to say to that.

I'm just glad rather that im no youngster who wants his tank right away or I might had made a detour from these ideas long ago for how many people wait more then three years? And that they stay with the same ideas that they had from the start?

Only things which changed somewhat was the thoughts to have anemones and a number of certain angelfishes, All else stayed intact.

Buddy

Germanman
04-18-2007, 6:10 PM
im glad u tried it out! it looks nice what u did. there is a spell check option that u can use if u are using the firefox browser. i would die if i didn't have that function. check out mine and see how u can fix it up a bit.
www.andrewsaquariums.blogspot.com

OldManOfTheSea
04-18-2007, 6:41 PM
Germanman, the spell check option isn't enough for my typing that in my typing methods a lone with my thinking do not work well together that I lack much in my typing my true express meanings in which the way it should be.

I had a while back look to put together an article on eels, nothing to do with talking about eels in general at all for I was to put an article together on the eel internal organs and their bodily functions which took me most of my life to gather together piece by piece that at some of my earlier findings be as early as in the 20 and 30`s.

I have this medical problem that causes me to have my slack in my thoughts and my typing isn't fast, but both not work well together. You can call it a coordination problem, but still the same I cannot coordinate the two to work with one another and the harder I try only gives me migraine headaches.

That a large part of this article had took me more then four months to do and that I gone over it more then 50 times and had some help from my son-in-law that after so long a period of doing like what might look like just a few pages in some book, took me a long while to perfect it for which my notes are in short hand and that the meaning for many of the lines were explained in a folder in which were lost to me from a bug. That many items I had in word pad had never opened again.

I think I still have that part which I typed and edited it so many times. For it speaks of the eel skeleton structure and its glands and heart and so forth and even the eel swimbladder.

So yes, i do need help to edit my remarks on my stocking of these tanks as well as update and so forth for other wise the only good it would do is that others would see some nice photos and nothing more then that :huh:

So name your price Niko and we can sign ourselves a contract right here :)

Buddy

Reefscape
04-19-2007, 3:15 AM
Buddy, i would not want any payment mate, just seeing it on the web, people leaving great comments is good enough for me....

Niko

OldManOfTheSea
04-19-2007, 6:33 AM
I guess your right on that, but just as long as you not put in the word "MATE" for we wouldn`t want others to think that im either from the land down under or im a person who if your anything to say to, you must speak to the hand:rolleyes: :dance2:

And who know niko, perhaps it not be needed to have something as that other site for my pictures which I taking looks great in that link and for right now as it be, I not want to at this time to dish out so much money just to start it when im so much more yet to do within these tanks.
I'm not sure, but I am thinking that if I were to have one those pics moved to the left or right, that I might be able to type the coral or fish description or so.

But one of the biggest things about it be that I not need to crowd the forums up with so many photos and with everything dated as this moves a long will show on it progress of either success or of the possible failures.


Buddy

OldManOfTheSea
04-19-2007, 8:16 AM
niko, I made a change to test something and the other link I provided I guess not works any more, so here is what I tried to test>

http://oldmanofthesea38.blogspot.com/

Buddy

Reefscape
04-19-2007, 8:54 AM
yes, works fine buddy....