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Coler
05-17-2007, 4:13 PM
Hey there catfish experts.

Lophiobagrus...I've found descriptions of two species : brevispinis & cyclurus.

Are there any more ?

Coler
05-17-2007, 5:10 PM
further catfish question

what species have their mouths on top of the face ?

and sorta extend their mouths almost like a nozzle to feed ?

and sorta look like a senegal bichir ? as eel like elongated body.

I ask because I was sold two lophiobagrus...at least that's what the label said...my LFS is usually very good. They don't look like any pics I can find thogh.

Coler
05-17-2007, 5:42 PM
gah! I think these are Erpetoichthys or polypterus

Coler
05-17-2007, 6:24 PM
and if so I have to catch the little buggers and bring them back. Gah ! Gah!........Gah!!!

Coler
05-17-2007, 7:16 PM
here's a sketch...scaled body, rusty/grey/black colouration, red touch to face

and as woofy rightly points out it can't be a bichir with a dorsal fin like that can it

mouth is above eyes

Coler
05-17-2007, 7:20 PM
I should also have drawn in bichir like nodules on the nose

Woofy
05-17-2007, 7:20 PM
Thats a very cute sketch ...i'll try to help ya

Coler
05-17-2007, 7:24 PM
many thanks :)

toddnbecka
05-17-2007, 11:57 PM
Check out planetcatfish.com ? If you can't find the mystery fish in the cat-e-log there, borrow a digital camera and snap a pic or two. No offense, but the drawing isn't much help for an ID...

Coler
05-18-2007, 4:11 AM
I know - I was just trying to show the fins and mouth position. It ain't on planet catfish from my searches so far

jessicar613
05-18-2007, 6:55 AM
Cute, Coler! rofl The eyebrow is a nice touch.

Coler
05-18-2007, 8:37 AM
that's its mouth durnit !!

Coler
05-20-2007, 4:58 PM
well they're not dead ! hadn't seen them in three days...got a very blurry picture...

Coler
05-20-2007, 5:09 PM
unfortunately these were the best I have gotten so far.

Ignore previous descriptions of fins I was somewhat wrong. they are :

caudal fin, anal fin, dorsal triangular fin closer to tail than head, ventral fin slightly in front (closer to head) of dorsal fin, two pelvic fins (thoracic).
eyes and mouth are on top of head. head is higher set than eyes. two nodules, bichir like on nose.
behaviour highly nocturnal, sometimes rests motionless/stationary on substrate with upper third of body suspended in the water.

Coler
05-20-2007, 5:25 PM
the mystery is solved they are Phractolaemus ansorgii

Coler
05-20-2007, 5:31 PM
Here is a better picture of one (not mine)

mee-mee
05-20-2007, 9:08 PM
There are a total of 4 Lophiobagrus species..
from Lake Tanganyika... and here are the other 2 worth mentioning

L. Aguilus and L.Aspirispinis....

and the website to go with it...
http://www.scotcat.com/factsheets/lophiobagrus_cyclurus.htm

mee-mee
05-20-2007, 9:11 PM
ooohhh Hingemouth....:eek:

Coler
05-21-2007, 5:52 AM
correct

J double R
05-21-2007, 11:16 AM
that thing looks like a cross between a black kuhlii and an arowana.. :p: