View Full Version : Something like Blood Parrots...
Firebelly__girl
07-08-2007, 4:13 PM
I was over my distant cousins house today and they had a blood parrot in a 55 gallon with a few other little community looking fish, he was so cute. He followed me all around, if i walked to the left, he swam to the left, if i walked to the right, he swam right next to me to the right, and looked right in my face lol He didnt seem to have any problems closing his mouth ( I fed him ) but if I had every gotton one or 2, and if they did have problems closing their mouths, it would kill me. So I'm wondering what kind of fish have the personalitys like these guys? and are peaceful like them too? or are blood parrots usualy not peaceful and this guy just happened to be? I know a lot of people do not like these fish, but the one I saw today was a happy, pretty orange little guy, and is about 3 years old.
Thanks!
wataugachicken
07-08-2007, 4:41 PM
if you get a parrot that cannot close its mouth, you really don't have to worry about it - however they are created, they are technically a member of the cichlid family, and so have pharyngeal jaws further back in their mouths. those jaws are the ones that chew, the outer jaws just catch. like other cichlids, they are usually on the aggressive/territorial side, but it seems like because of their weird body shape which slows them down a bit, they are forced to be a little nicer. like most new world cichlids i have come across, they definitely have a lot of personality and eagerness to be noticed.
Firebelly__girl
07-08-2007, 5:20 PM
Yes it was so funny, I was looking into the tank more than talking to the people around haha! He was so funny, it was like I could have a convo with him lmao I guess ive just never seen a fish have so much interest in a person (im guessing hoping to get some food!)
Ruben Tolon
07-08-2007, 6:03 PM
I'd really suggest not purchasing a blood parrot, but there are many other new world cichlids that have great personalities. Depending on your tank size, some larger ones like oscars, chocolates, and severums are great in my experience. I've had smaller cichlids, like blue acaras being very personable.
Firebelly__girl
07-08-2007, 6:21 PM
Why would you suggest not to? Do you have experience with them?
Ruben Tolon
07-08-2007, 6:59 PM
I personally am against knowingly keeping hybrid cichlids, and with the blood parrots it is not just on that basis, but also because they are bred deliberately to have an awkward unnatural body appearance.
Aylmer
07-09-2007, 4:05 AM
agree with ruben there, I would not like to be one of those who encourage interbreeding for the fancy of those buying. Parrots look cute, I agree, however would you like to have a fish in your tank which is known to be artificially created or a fish which is know to exist in the wild.Its just my opinion, take care.Also there is nothing wrong with their personalities, they are aggressive and can hold their own, as long as size diff is not too much. But they are a bit more peaceful than other cichlids.
samsmom
07-09-2007, 9:06 AM
I am someone who adores the B.P,. hybrid?, isn't that just another name for a mutt? Like a labradoddle or a heinz 57?
legendaryfrog
07-09-2007, 9:50 AM
Yep, i agree with samsmom here. Im pretty sure most of y'all dont have a problem with mutts, so whats wrong with a hybrid fish? I would NEVER consider the blood parrot to be *handicapped* by all means; it can be a pretty agressive fish and easily holds its own in a larger community tank.
Just because it cant close its mouth doesnt mean its unhappy or in pain.
wataugachicken
07-09-2007, 9:57 AM
the BP is just another example of human intervention. if we got rid of all fish that showed this kind of "tinkering", we'd be missing out on bettas, goldfish, EBJD's, long finned fish, ballon-shaped fish, albinos, and all the various colors of guppies, platies, mollies, angelfish, etc. . .
Ruben Tolon
07-09-2007, 1:31 PM
I am someone who adores the B.P,. hybrid?, isn't that just another name for a mutt? Like a labradoddle or a heinz 57?
A mutt is still the same species as a pure breed dog. BP's are a mix of various species somewhere along the way in its development. I personally don't knowingly purchase (or breed) hybrid fish, but I'm not opposed to people doing so. I'm more opposed to things like BP, balloon mollies, and things of that nature that have unnatural physical shape regardless of whether it's a hybrid or not (as in goldfish).
severum mama
07-09-2007, 1:47 PM
I would NEVER consider the blood parrot to be *handicapped* by all means; it can be a pretty agressive fish and easily holds its own in a larger community tank.
Just because it cant close its mouth doesnt mean its unhappy or in pain.
As someone whose 2 BPs are nearly 5 years old, I can tell you that this is absolutely true! Mine do just fine with a large severum, an adult firemouth, a dwarf green pike cichlid, 3 botia modesta, and a big 'ol rainbow shark in a 75 gallon. They have survived ALL the noob mistakes, everything from improper cycling to ich to inappropriate tank size, and they are both large and robust.
Regarding tank size, I've grown out my juvies in a 29, then a 30 long, then a 45, but I'd really recommend that this fish be kept in a minimum of 50 gallons (36x18), preferably a 55 gallon (48x18), when it gets a little bulk on it. A 75 is much better if you plan to keep other fish with it, but it is not necessary as some people will tell you.
Aphotic Phoenix
07-09-2007, 2:55 PM
If you can afford to have a large enough tank...Oscars are considered by some to be one of the most pet like fish you can have. Some of them even like to be petted! Definitely do some serious research on Oscars before purchasing though...they get very large, are messy eaters, tear up plants, and have limited tank mate options.
lucky777ca
07-10-2007, 11:00 AM
I think mules are the same thing, a sterile hybrid of the horse and the donkey (apparently not for the female, after looking it up)?
Anyways, the personality and the sociability of the fish depends on the individual. My brother's blood parrot is shy when kept alone. I did add zebra danios, but the BP was fast enough to eat one in the day (... or smart enough to wait until nightfall...). I'm not sure when it ate one of the four danios.
spirals
07-10-2007, 12:46 PM
I love playing with the Blood Parrots and the Oscars at work. They will follow your finger around the tank or "stand on their tail" for food if you hold it just above the tank. The only thing I always warn about with Oscars is they get really huge (10" or so) and are messy and I wouldn't recommend getting one for less than a 55G tank. Blood Parrots are a little smaller ( I believe 6"?) so there's a little more option for tank size.
The argument I've always heard when I present the mule example is that the mule doesn't reproduce while hybrid fish can, I dunno...I still don't really see why this is a big deal, short of "humans playing god" and "its not natural". I mean, even when we have species breeding humans make some pretty f'd up things, like little kittens with legs so short they literally can't walk, or "teacup" kittens who never grow larger than like, a pound. At least with Blood Parrots or even Glo-fish they still seem healthy and happy in their environments.
severum mama
07-10-2007, 1:35 PM
Oscars can actually get from 12-14 inches, provided they are given adequate tank space, clean water, and a good diet.
Parrots are smaller than oscars. I'd guess that 6 inches is about average, and I have one that is around 6 inches, maybe a little bigger. The other one is at least 7 inches!:)
BlueJax
07-10-2007, 6:12 PM
There are a zillion cichlid species that will follow your hand around the front of a tank for food. I have a dwarf cichlid tank in my office and every time I walk into the room every last one of my dwarfs comes right to the front of the tank to say hi (i.e. feed me).
If it's a pet type fish you want then many of the larger Central American species make great 'pets' who will respond to their owners (Jaguars, Jack Dempseys etc). This is less true of the South American species, although Oscars are a notable exception. In fact any of the species that supposedly went into creating the blood parrot (e.g. Severum, A. citrinellum, A. labiatum) would be a good approximation of a blood parrot (although severums are less psychotic).
If you want a fish just like a blood parrot then you may as well buy a blood parrot, just for God's sake don't buy a dyed one, or one selectively bred to have no tail. Pick carefully and you could well end up with a beautiful fish (if you like that sort of thing).
The only real problem with blood parrots is that no-one knows what they are a hybrid of. It's really important that hybrids are labeled correctly so that people know what they are buying. There's no real problem with people keeping hybrids, providing they know what they are and keep them responsibly. Problems only arise when unscrupulous hybrid owners try to sell them on as pure species or, even worse, as new species. This is gross misinformation and in my opinion such people need a good slap.