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Rbishop
07-21-2007, 12:11 AM
Social Rules

1) Game members only please in this thread. Watching is encouraged, but please do not post ideas, theories or anything else. You could have signed up, but nooooo.

2) This is a game. What is said in the game stays in the game. There will be accusations, incriminations, etc. But it's a game. If anybody gets too rowdy, I'll ask the mods to shut it down.

Never take things to a personal level.

This is a game, for entertainment only, play with enthusiasm, not hate.

3) When I declare it to be night, please don't post until 'morning'. You're 'asleep'.

Game Mechanics

1) Each 'day' everyone in the town (including mafia) can vote to lynch someone. You vote by saying (in bold)… I vote to lynch so and so.

If you decide to switch your vote, state in bold you are doing so and the new vote.

Do not put your vote in your signature.

2) Whoever has the most votes gets lynched. If you have two and everyone else has one vote… you get lynched.

a. The priority of lynchings is Townies, Vigilante, Mafia, and then Untimely Deaths.

b. The Doctor’s protection overrides any of the lynchings.

2a) If multiple people have the same number of votes, I will randomly decide which of those gets lynched.

3) You may vote to lynch no-one.

4) If you aren't active for two day/night cycles, with at least posting once, then you will pass away from some strange (probably embarrassing) illness that I will give you.

5) Everything stays in the game, no PMing people and setting up deals or alliances, or discussing issues in this game on other sites. The sole exception to this is the authorization by me for special role players to do so.

a.I STRONGLY SUGGEST THAT AUTHORIZED PEOPLE COMMUNICATE VIA AN OFF SITE MESSAGING BOARD LIKE MSN/AIM/ICQ.

6) You can say whatever you want in the game, but you can't 'prove it' with my PM to you.

Anyone can declare themselves the detective; indeed, I've seen mafia do so quite effectively for a short time.

The mafia wins when there is the same number of mafia as innocents. They can control the lynching then.

The innocents win if they lynch all the mafia.

If you have any questions, PM me. If it's important to all, I'll post it.

1) No one... except the mafia... is to discuss the game outside of the thread. That's kind of the point. If you are discussing things, then everyone else doesn't get the benefit of your deliberations. Think town hall rather than internet chat room.

2) DO NOT USE MY PM'S TO PROVE YOUR INNOCENCE.

3) THIS GAME IS NOT TO BE DISCUSSED ON OTHER SITES, THREADS OR CHAT, UNTIL THE GAME IS OVER.

The players are the townsfolk in the great city of ACville.

Some are Innocents; the remaining are Mafia; the Mafia know who each other are, and can communicate with one another.

The Mayor...works to find the Detective as they can rid the town of Mafia and to find other special role players. The Mayor can PM me once each game night with their suspicions and I will confirm the role the person is playing. Once the Mayor learns who the Detective is, the Mayor can PM the Detective. As a team, they can lynch a Mafia person twice. Their efforts should be to get the townspeople to lynch the Mafia. Both the Mayor and the Detective should PM me to confirm the lynch.

The Detective...investigates the townspeople to confirm Mafia identities, find other special role players, and find the Mayor. The Detective can do one investigation each game night by PM to me and I will confirm the identity.

The Doctor...has the ability to protect one person each game night. They do this by sending me a PM at game nightfall on who is to be protected that night. Be sure to protect the right person, Doctor! The Doctor can protect them self only on nights when the doctor has no votes to be lynched by the townsfolk’s.

The Vigilante...a total wild card...he can kill once per game by sending me a PM at the start of the game night. The Vigilante can be an Innocent or a Mafia, and strike against either.

The Don...has total control of the Mafia. He will PM me at the beginning of the night with the Mafia's choice of who gets lynched, EVEN IF IT IS ONE OF HIS OWN! He can do three investigations to me by PM, one a game night, in his efforts to find the Mayor, Doctor, Detective, or Vigilante. Should the Don be lynched, each of the remaining Mafia will have to PM me, and I will break any ties.


More to follow....

jpappy789
07-21-2007, 12:13 AM
First one!

Dangerdoll
07-21-2007, 12:13 AM
Am I not a glutton :D I am in!

IceH2O
07-21-2007, 12:21 AM
I'm in, each game just gets better.

bkw1982
07-21-2007, 1:48 AM
bish ur great at this stuff....

Everyone is gettin better and tht makes the game even more fun, can't wait to see if there are any surprises this game.

IM IN!!

OgreMkV
07-21-2007, 5:53 AM
Count me in

judgemax
07-21-2007, 7:39 AM
judgemax sneaks in to the thread quietly tiptoeing, she eyes, the other suspects, and wonders?....can she make it through another game?.....

MikenDanielle
07-21-2007, 7:49 AM
I'll give it a spin

bkw1982
07-21-2007, 7:57 AM
I'll give it a spin


woot another noob.......lets lynch him first.

JM u hav to ply, u hav to redeem urself....ur in the same ranks as CL....being the fastest mafia killed

Dwarf Puffers
07-21-2007, 8:01 AM
I'm in :)

Sploke
07-21-2007, 8:26 AM
I'm in again.

IceH2O
07-21-2007, 8:38 AM
Now that 5 is over I have some things I think need changed.

Its not fair that the mafia only get 3 investigations to figure out 14 players roles. While the innocents got unlimited investigations by 2 people. Either the mafia get unlimited, 3 per mafia member or the innocents should also only get 3 for each investigating player.

Also maybe a mafia snitch can be added? Just throw 1 extra mafia player into the mix, of course only the snitch knows he is the snitch. Every night they PM Rb with who they want to snitch on and if they are lynched it comes out to the townies. This way the mafia must kill off one their own and hope they get the right one.

A daytime hit by driveby would be nice too so we can take out a player either for being a role player or just to cause confusion among the townies. In this case the identity shouldn't ever be revealed.

Just some thoughts.

Hooked Newbie
07-21-2007, 8:44 AM
I'm in! I won't have as much time, but I should still be able to ruffle some feathers! ;)

IceH2O
07-21-2007, 8:47 AM
Another thought...There were to many non votes, there has to be some kind of penalty for that. If you can't manage a vote or to even post you may as well not play.

I think a non vote should be automatic death, I also don't think a I vote for no one should be allowed.

Rbishop
07-21-2007, 8:54 AM
Now that 5 is over I have some things I think need changed.

Its not fair that the mafia only get 3 investigations to figure out 14 players roles. While the innocents got unlimited investigations by 2 people. Either the mafia get unlimited, 3 per mafia member or the innocents should also only get 3 for each investigating player.

Also maybe a mafia snitch can be added? Just throw 1 extra mafia player into the mix, of course only the snitch knows he is the snitch. Every night they PM Rb with who they want to snitch on and if they are lynched it comes out to the townies. This way the mafia must kill off one their own and hope they get the right one.

A daytime hit by driveby would be nice too so we can take out a player either for being a role player or just to cause confusion among the townies. In this case the identity shouldn't ever be revealed.

Just some thoughts.

Good ideas, let me see what I can work up and hopefull start on Sunday.

Though harder for all, I really like the number of 24 for players. I really debated hard whether to go with 4 or 5 Mafia players this time.

The reason I limited the Mafia investigations was because they know who all the innocents are. Pretty good chance you will identify the Det or May in three investigations. If the Det and May find each other the first night, the two kills for them are a bit much. That almost happened this game, but right before the end of the day, thet both changed their investigations off one another.

I didn't get to use Dead Men Tell Tales since the game ended so quickly. I would have used Secret identity tonight.

As for the unexpected post....I'll never tell, nor will they....:dance:

IceH2O
07-21-2007, 9:05 AM
I think the unexpected post was used when Zman said he wasn't so sure of DD as being mafia. He had been on top of her all week, it was so out of left field I was sure that was it.

OgreMkV
07-21-2007, 9:20 AM
rb, I put this in the #5 thread as well...

1) Good Game... thanks for running it.

2) the Mayor/Detective combo is too powerful. The mafia should win about half the time.

Either toss the mayor or give the mafia some help like:
A) more members
B) A Don that shows as innocent
C) a traitor
d) any two of the above

For a normal game, there should be about 1 mafia per four players. For every major character the innocents get, there should be either a minor character for the mafia or another team member. For every two minor characters for the innocents, the mafia should get a character or another member.

Major characters: Detective, Mayor, Don (as detective)
Minor Characters: doctor, vig, traitor, Don (as innocent)

I've also noticed that the mafia teams are waaaay too aggressive around here. ;) It's so cool being mafia that they have to play. That just makes it obvious.

Finally, I almost had a couple of you didn't I?

Dangerdoll
07-21-2007, 9:21 AM
yeah, that's my thought too. When I read that Z note, I was like.... huh?

I also agree on the snitch, I think that would be great! It will make it interesting on both sides.

johnlarson66
07-21-2007, 9:23 AM
I want in again.

I liked the 36 hour days.

I think the Don should come up as innoecent and the mafia should have one extra person.

I think there should be no after death posts and any that are posted are deleted ASAP.

I think on the first night, if the town votes to lynch NOBODY, then the mafia hit has a 50/50 chance of failing.

I am done thinking.

johnlarson66
07-21-2007, 9:25 AM
OgreMvK, I was onto you after your post. Thanks for trying to get me lynched...

:mad2:

It was a fun game.

ZSandmann
07-21-2007, 9:45 AM
Oh I'm so In!

plantling
07-21-2007, 9:53 AM
Wow, Mafia 5 is already over. I just skimmed sometimes, but it was a good game, and I agree that the Mafia should have more power. I may be busy and won't be able to post a whole lot, but I'll give Mafia 6 a try. Count me in, RB.

ZSandmann
07-21-2007, 9:55 AM
Good ideas, let me see what I can work up and hopefull start on Sunday.

Though harder for all, I really like the number of 24 for players. I really debated hard whether to go with 4 or 5 Mafia players this time.

The reason I limited the Mafia investigations was because they know who all the innocents are. Pretty good chance you will identify the Det or May in three investigations. If the Det and May find each other the first night, the two kills for them are a bit much. That almost happened this game, but right before the end of the day, thet both changed their investigations off one another.

I didn't get to use Dead Men Tell Tales since the game ended so quickly. I would have used Secret identity tonight.

As for the unexpected post....I'll never tell, nor will they....:dance:

I know! I just had to see about Ogre he was acting odd.

ZSandmann
07-21-2007, 9:57 AM
yeah, that's my thought too. When I read that Z note, I was like.... huh?

I also agree on the snitch, I think that would be great! It will make it interesting on both sides.

My note last night? I was impaired.

bkw1982
07-21-2007, 10:02 AM
I think keeping the mafia at 3 votes is good idea, they already know who ppl are, anymore votes would be to much.

i agree they should hav another role to help em out or another player , cause thats 4 games to 1 in favor of town, it's obviously one sided.


sometype of role that has the ability to sabotage the town once a night, not a killing role but he can have one townie vote change, or maybe have them say a line he wrote. U can call it black mail. I really like the idea of the random message but didnt see it go into play.....so something like

Saboteur
Mafia
Has the ability to black mail one townie every other night. Once black mailed townie has to say what the saboteur wants them to say without revealing they were made to say it.

bkw1982
07-21-2007, 10:10 AM
Im seriously surprised no one picked up on my hint....Does no one watch familyguy??? My Avatar???? Mayor Bee??? Kotd u got it...didnt u?

C'mon!!
http://youtube.com/watch?v=aAQxztt1Lek

Free Honey for everyone!!! Yay mayor BEE!! Mayor Bee!!

KingOfTheDeep
07-21-2007, 10:11 AM
Im seriously surprised no one picked up on my hint....Does no one watch familyguy??? My Avatar???? Mayor Bee??? Kotd u got it...didnt u?
C'mon!!
http://youtube.com/watch?v=aAQxztt1Lek

Free Honey for everyone!!! Yay mayor BEE!! Mayor Bee!!

;)

im in!

ZSandmann
07-21-2007, 10:13 AM
I got it too. Love Family Guy

IceH2O
07-21-2007, 10:13 AM
LOL Bkw totally missed it. If I had figured it out I would have hit you last night instead.

Rb, if I did hit Bkw last night would their hit on me still have gone through?

Rbishop
07-21-2007, 10:14 AM
I caught it, but was shocked...really thought the game would be short, especially with the initial investigations picked.

Rbishop
07-21-2007, 10:17 AM
LOL Bkw totally missed it. If I had figured it out I would have hit you last night instead.

Rb, if I did hit Bkw last night would their hit on me still have gone through?


I have been using the following priorities for hits...

1 Town Lynch

2 Vig

3 Mafia hit

4 Mayor/Detective hit

5 Untimely deaths

ZSandmann
07-21-2007, 10:37 AM
Obscure avatars for the win!!!

KingOfTheDeep
07-21-2007, 10:38 AM
I have been using the following priorities for hits...

1 Town Lynch

2 Vig

3 Mafia hit

4 Mayor/Detective hit

5 Untimely deaths

so, the vig had 2 hits instead of just one?

ZSandmann
07-21-2007, 10:41 AM
so, the vig had 2 hits instead of just one?

No he ranked the order of priority. You only had the one. :D

joander123
07-21-2007, 10:44 AM
im in again... hehe

joander123
07-21-2007, 10:45 AM
so, the vig had 2 hits instead of just one?


no, it just means that the town lynch came first, so like if you were lynched, and you tried to get rid of your vig hit, you would be killed before you could of, and the same applies for all the others... right?

KingOfTheDeep
07-21-2007, 10:46 AM
No he ranked the order of priority. You only had the one. :D

ok..i read that and was like :eek3: :devil: lol

KingOfTheDeep
07-21-2007, 10:47 AM
I'm in :)

cousin pete makes a comeback!

clown-lover
07-21-2007, 10:51 AM
Im seriously surprised no one picked up on my hint....Does no one watch familyguy??? My Avatar???? Mayor Bee??? Kotd u got it...didnt u?

C'mon!!
http://youtube.com/watch?v=aAQxztt1Lek

Free Honey for everyone!!! Yay mayor BEE!! Mayor Bee!!

LOL.. cool hint, but I pretty much watch TLC, History, Discovery etc..

BTW Bishop I'm In I won't be posting as much simply due to the fact of job issues. Also I think the 6pm or 5pm cut off is to hard to make for those of us who don't utilize a computer at work. So I think you should go with either 24 or 48 hour days. That first day I made it back to my machine with like 4 minutes to spare, I saw Joanders vote for me and thats all I had time to do was scan for votes and get my change within seconds of night happening.

I also think the mafia is handicapped in a way and need more positions. They either need a higher percentage of people or something like a snitch, traitor, In game 5 I put a tatoo artist that can infect people??? HMMMM

I'll also stay away from the stats since I think thats what got me killed... LOL and try to follow the lead that some of you guys do.. But just so you know I am more of a objective proof kind of person, not so much subjective.. I can't discount that type of philosophy but as momma always used to say the proof is in the puddin'..

Can't wait for Game 6

jpappy789
07-21-2007, 11:17 AM
more people! where charlie? he missed 5...

Sploke
07-21-2007, 11:25 AM
I like the 36 hour days, but maybe make them end at 8 or 9, so that way if people are coming home from work they have a little time to catch up and make a vote.

Hooked Newbie
07-21-2007, 11:29 AM
I like the 36 hour days, but maybe make them end at 8 or 9, so that way if people are coming home from work they have a little time to catch up and make a vote.


I agree. An 8 Oclock cut off would be great if it would work with your schedule Bish.

Madcrawdad
07-21-2007, 11:34 AM
I've read through the past couple of games, and it looks kind of fun. I'd be willing to give it a try. Count me in.

Rbishop
07-21-2007, 11:34 AM
so, the vig had 2 hits instead of just one?


No just one, those were the priority to the hits going into effect.

Rbishop
07-21-2007, 11:40 AM
I'll adjust the times a bit so the day people can get home, review and post.

The rough 36 hr time frame is nice, doesn't drag out to much, especially for weekends.

I would like AM start stops to be around 5 AM EST so I can roll the day before going to work. Maybe do the PM start stops at 8 PM EST.

I'll try to get it kicked off at about 3-4 PM EST on Sunday.

Still at ACA in CA right now.

Cory Lover
07-21-2007, 11:41 AM
I'm in again lol

CL

Swayde
07-21-2007, 11:44 AM
I read a lot of Game #5 and this seems like a lot of fun. Please add me to the list as a newbie player =)

clown-lover
07-21-2007, 11:44 AM
I'll adjust the times a bit so the day people can get home, review and post.

The rough 36 hr time frame is nice, doesn't drag out to much, especially for weekends.

I would like AM start stops to be around 5 AM EST so I can roll the day before going to work. Maybe do the PM start stops at 8 PM EST.

I'll try to get it kicked off at about 3-4 PM EST on Sunday.

Still at ACA in CA right now.

That would be great.. I personally don't have a problem with the morning, and really didn't see anyone else have an issue with that time, but per some of my postings you know that it is really difficult to get home in time to be able to catch up. I appreciate the help and look forward to the new twists in the next game..

Rbishop
07-21-2007, 11:45 AM
Game...

1 11 players 282 posts 3796 views 29 pages

2 16 players 413 posts 6162 views 42 pages

3 20 players 866 posts 11,532 views 87 pages

4 24 players 1,459 posts 18,093 views 146 pages

5 18 players 1,165 posts 11,961 views 117 pages


This has generated 4,185 posts, not counting sign up threads, since Ogre kicked it off!!!! Just 6 weeks ago.

:dance: :dance: :dance:

Coler
07-21-2007, 11:59 AM
OK...I will play again...and will not make it past day 1 before someone takes my head off, but what the hey :D

charlie_stubbs
07-21-2007, 12:00 PM
count me in!!!

charlie_stubbs
07-21-2007, 12:02 PM
i vote to lynch Charlie_Stubbs

IceH2O
07-21-2007, 12:48 PM
I like the shorter days also but the 6 PM cutoff severely limited what I could do since most of the time I had to send in hits and investigations the night before,almost 24 hours in advance. 8 or 9 would be sweet.

I blame our loss on the 6 PM deadline

ZSandmann
07-21-2007, 1:02 PM
8 pm Nightfall would work great for me, but I use a comp at work so I'm very flexible. Oh and yes I REALLY was busy at work.

joander123
07-21-2007, 1:04 PM
mmm 8pm is better for me 2

OgreMkV
07-21-2007, 1:18 PM
Remember, I'll be at a workshop next week. If I have access to a PC I can check in, but I'll have to use my phone during lunch and that will really suck... later is better for me too, since I'll have to drive home from Houston each day.

clown-lover
07-21-2007, 2:19 PM
Anyone else.. Come on guys.. This is a great game..

Hooked Newbie
07-21-2007, 2:25 PM
I'll adjust the times a bit so the day people can get home, review and post.

The rough 36 hr time frame is nice, doesn't drag out to much, especially for weekends.

I would like AM start stops to be around 5 AM EST so I can roll the day before going to work. Maybe do the PM start stops at 8 PM EST.

I'll try to get it kicked off at about 3-4 PM EST on Sunday.

Still at ACA in CA right now.

Thanks Rb! And thanks again for running these!

johnlarson66
07-21-2007, 5:23 PM
Remember, I'll be at a workshop next week. If I have access to a PC I can check in, but I'll have to use my phone during lunch and that will really suck... later is better for me too, since I'll have to drive home from Houston each day.


Smells like a mafia cover-up to me...

Hooked Newbie
07-21-2007, 5:47 PM
I vote to Lynch OgreMkV! ;)

mee-mee
07-21-2007, 6:34 PM
I am definitely in......meemeemeemeemee

mee-mee
07-21-2007, 6:35 PM
I like the shorter days also but the 6 PM cutoff severely limited what I could do since most of the time I had to send in hits and investigations the night before,almost 24 hours in advance. 8 or 9 would be sweet.

I blame our loss on the 6 PM deadline

I hardly had time to catch up also....


Its okay Ice...there is always Tomorrow...heehee:)

Rbishop
07-21-2007, 7:27 PM
Status...we are at 22 folks...!!!!!

OgreMkV
07-21-2007, 7:59 PM
List?

mee-mee
07-21-2007, 8:37 PM
So far there are the townies and the Mafia and then RB running the game,,is that good...or do ya want the top 3 Mafia..
1.RB
2.RB
3.RB...

so we shall see how many people pick him out of a lineup...lol

Madcrawdad
07-21-2007, 9:02 PM
IMO I'd just go back to the 48 hour day/night cycle.... it does tend to drag a little, but rb explained his reasoning for the 5:00am start. With lots of folks saying that later evening cutoffs work better for them, I think the 48 hour would work best in allowing everyone who wants to post to post.

OgreMkV
07-21-2007, 9:14 PM
48 hours would be fine until the population of the town went to about 16 :)

FireDancer7905
07-21-2007, 10:34 PM
Is there still time to get in? ...i promise to play nice.... :)

Rbishop
07-21-2007, 10:44 PM
Jensons makes it 23!!!! WIll take others up until about 12 noon, Sun, July 22, EST

KingOfTheDeep
07-21-2007, 11:44 PM
hmm..i may have to drop out of this one..

Rbishop
07-22-2007, 12:33 AM
Just let me know King....

KingOfTheDeep
07-22-2007, 1:20 AM
ok, looks like i got my days mixed up, im in :)

ZSandmann
07-22-2007, 9:47 AM
bump, come on folks it's fun. One more player.

clown-lover
07-22-2007, 11:22 AM
bump again.. one more player guys.. Come on.. Its a great time..

charlie_stubbs
07-22-2007, 11:24 AM
i am anxious to get started after missing M5!!! come on peeps its a great game!!!

jpappy789
07-22-2007, 1:07 PM
aaah! come on!!

nickmcmechan
07-22-2007, 1:08 PM
i'd like a go at this one

OgreMkV
07-22-2007, 1:12 PM
YAY

jpappy789
07-22-2007, 1:12 PM
wooohoooo!

Rbishop
07-22-2007, 1:39 PM
Okay...working with the above 24......

clown-lover
07-22-2007, 2:12 PM
Wooo Hoooo :dance:

ZSandmann
07-22-2007, 2:15 PM
Yay!!!

OgreMkV
07-22-2007, 2:18 PM
Whoever is on the team opposite me... you're doomed. ;)

clown-lover
07-22-2007, 2:21 PM
Yeah well... well.. Well I don't know what to say to that Ogre... :)

But place nice this time.. I'd like to make to day four this time.. I know. I over think and I'm anal but hey everyone has to have a vice..:lipssealedsmilie:

OgreMkV
07-22-2007, 2:24 PM
Heck, I'd like to make it past day four!

KingOfTheDeep
07-22-2007, 2:25 PM
Whoever is on the team opposite me... you're doomed. ;)

we'll see :devil:

clown-lover
07-22-2007, 2:26 PM
Ogre :lol: tooo funny.. Well I gotta run and do some stuff before this all kicks off.. Or the GF just might smash the 'puter.

IceH2O
07-22-2007, 2:30 PM
Yeah thats the one bad thing about this game. Once you are known as a good player the mafia wants to take you out power role or not and the innocents are going to investigate you to see if you're mafia.

Hooked Newbie
07-22-2007, 2:33 PM
I vote to lynch Ice!

MikenDanielle
07-22-2007, 2:42 PM
I vote to Lynch KFC, too bad there not playing, but I do have a question... being my first time participating... Im assuming we get a pm letting us know what group we are in?

Hooked Newbie
07-22-2007, 2:44 PM
Your correct Mike. Rb will PM everyone.

OgreMkV
07-22-2007, 2:45 PM
yep

charlie_stubbs
07-22-2007, 2:46 PM
fortunately i've never been accused of being a good player. yes you will recieve a pm from rb mike

MikenDanielle
07-22-2007, 2:46 PM
Cool, thanks for the responses.

OgreMkV
07-22-2007, 2:48 PM
oh and Mike... never ever ever say you're confused about the game :)

MikenDanielle
07-22-2007, 2:53 PM
:dance: Maybe thats my tactic.. to let you think im confussed???

Hooked Newbie
07-22-2007, 2:53 PM
:lol:

Dangerdoll
07-22-2007, 3:23 PM
:lol:

plantling
07-22-2007, 3:25 PM
:dance: Maybe thats my tactic.. to let you think im confussed???

Many a Mafia have gotten lynched solely based on the "I'm confused" demeanor.

OgreMkV
07-22-2007, 3:27 PM
Many an innocent too :)

IceH2O
07-22-2007, 4:12 PM
Thats what he did instead, ran in there and claimed be was an innocent. DP too lol

IceH2O
07-22-2007, 4:14 PM
I noticed they are both Canadians, maybe I have another question for that Canadian ask us to get to know about us thread?

All the Cans are mafia this round!