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jayghmi
08-17-2007, 9:43 AM
I recently had a drop in ph to 7.8. I am a stingy feeder and all my other parameters were fine.

Can freshwater top offs (with RO water) slowly lower ph? I have major surface agitation, so I do a top of at least every other day.

Thanks, Jay

Jaysn
08-17-2007, 10:50 AM
It is aged FW? If it's straight out of the tap you could be seeing CO2 offgassing, although I don't think top-off quantities would effect your ph that much.

Edit- Re-read and saw that you're using RO, so that's not what it is.

Sploke
08-17-2007, 10:54 AM
The RO water is most likely the culprit...RO water typically has a pH of around 6.8 or so I believe, and its got no buffering capability. Are you using straight RO water, or a mix of RO and tap water? Do you add something like RO-right to help stablize your RO water? If you're just topping off with straight, non-adjusted RO water, then yes it will drop your pH.

jayghmi
08-17-2007, 12:05 PM
Yep, straight RO water. Is there something that I should add to my RO water so that it doesn't continue to lower my ph?

joander123
08-17-2007, 12:35 PM
i have gotten a very good explanation of this from a member named squakbert. (or something like that.)

Because RO water takes out most of the ions in the water, it really doesnt have a ph, and the ph of it is greatly altered by anything basic or acidic added into the water.

So it shouldnt be lowering you PH, because once it gets added into the high PH water, its ph will change drastically and quickly to match the tank.

I have had low ph problems before, you can simply buffer it... which is what i did for a while but after about 2 months i switched salt from regular instant ocean, to reef crystals. That cured the problem, my ph is now very consistent around 8.2-8.3.

joander123
08-17-2007, 12:36 PM
well, i shouldnt say it doesnt have a ph, because it does. But there are no affective ways of reading the ph, and once its added into the tank, the ph of it will change very quickly, to whatever the ph in the tank is.

mrtuskfish
08-17-2007, 6:10 PM
Top offs should not effect PH, unless the PH is read right before the water is added. All the alkaline elements and compounds should stay behind (just like the salt) as water evaporates.

missc4
08-17-2007, 9:21 PM
You can buy PH buffer at the LFS and raise your Ph that way.