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shoreliner
08-20-2007, 2:11 PM
two apple snails. No breeding going on so I think I may have two the same sex. But I don't know for sure what i am looking at. On the snails' right sides under the shell there is a "pipe" on both snails, but I think it is the end of the gut. Will you guys look at the pics and see what you think?

klfvilla
08-20-2007, 2:35 PM
I think the pipe you are looking at is just the breathing siphon, not private parts. If you had a boy & girl, you'd definately have mating going on so definately you've got either both boys or girls, but I don't know which. I can only ID sex in mine when I see them mating, which is all the time.

mellowvision
08-20-2007, 2:35 PM
I think you're crazy for trying to tell snail sex apart.

thebullit
08-20-2007, 2:45 PM
thats there breathing syphon...

shoreliner
08-20-2007, 3:06 PM
is this picture reversed? It shows the siphon on the snail's left side.

picture is from: http://www.applesnail.net/content/anatomy.htm

thebullit
08-20-2007, 4:21 PM
the best wat to tell the sexes is to hold them upside down, and in simple terms if you just see a hole a fem, if you see an apenditure on the left above the head its male.
i find it best doing this with a glass of water from the tank and hold the snail as i said just under the surface and be patiant.


good luck!!

kimmisc
08-20-2007, 4:25 PM
I don't know what it is, but I know it isn't the breathing siphon. The siphon is on the snail's left side (your right) and is flatter and narrower.

I've read they don't start breeding until they're about an inch in diameter. It might be too soon right now.

pixl8r
08-20-2007, 5:28 PM
The penis sheath on a male snail does not have spots, the breathing siphon does.. FYI, snails with light colored shells have another advantage, when sexing. The females have a dark spot near the point of the shell when they are ovulating. Male snails don't ovulate, so they don't have the dark spot.

kimmisc
08-20-2007, 5:54 PM
Can you specify what type of apple snail? Different types have different siphons and siphon locations. http://www.applesnail.net/content/anatomy/respiration.php

If your snail is a pomacea bridgessi (mystery snail), that is absolutely not a siphon. If your snail is a pomacea canaliculata, it probably is the siphon. P. canalicultata eats most plants, by the way.

I tried getting pictures of the siphons on my mystery snails, but my camera is seriously not cut out for aquarium photography. They weren't turning out good.

shoreliner
08-20-2007, 9:53 PM
I'm thinking P. bridgesi but I really am not sure. They generally don't bother my plants...only the anacharis got hit, and it wasn't hit hard.

The first pic is a much smaller snail, maybe about an inch is all. The other is about twice that size. The big one does have a darker area around the point on the shell...the shell is pale enough I can see something moving inside sometimes. The other one is less translucent..I don't think it had a dark spot though.

I wonder if the LFS would let me try to sex their apple snails? :)

spirals
08-21-2007, 12:12 AM
I wonder if the LFS would let me try to sex their apple snails?

lol!
try it in my store and we will think ur a bit :screwy:

then again...i did just read this whole post on how to sex snails...

kimmisc
08-21-2007, 1:31 AM
Have you seen this page? http://www.tronchaser.com/~cindi/ss.html
It may help you when trying to sex them. I had the same problem you're having. I wanted to sex mine because I'm giving a couple of them away and want to make sure a keep a pair that can mate later on.

kimmisc
08-21-2007, 1:36 AM
Here's a picture of a mystery snail (p. bridgesi) with it's siphon extended on the left side of it's head. This isn't my snail. I googled "mystery snail siphon." The siphons on mine look just like this one's.

http://www.aqualandpetsplus.com/Bug_S11.jpg

shoreliner
08-21-2007, 8:33 PM
mine has the same siphon. Sort of cone-shaped, with yellow speckles on it, on the snail's left. So the thing over on the right (in my pics) must be the end of the digestive tract. I think I know what to look for now.

Thanks all, for your help! Off to look for a boy snail! :)

Becca3711
08-21-2007, 9:42 PM
The white circled thing is his man part.

The second photo is also good. The white thing more on the right is the penis and the left thing is his siphon. The penis is next to the poop hole, if I can recall, just more interior to the midline of the snail.