Zombies -- Mafia #11

[Rbishop]

Okay, we have 15 folks....

Please review the rules...let me know if you see problems by PM.



Mafia #11 -- Zombie Mayhem

Game Mechanics

Each “Game Day”, all townies will vote to Lynch a suspected Zombie. You vote by saying in bold text, “I vote to lynch so and so…”

a) You must vote each Game Day, or you will experience an untimely death.
b) A vote for “NO ONE” cannot be used on Game Day 1, only on game day 2 and following Days.
c) If you decide to switch your vote, state in bold you are doing so and the new vote.
d) Do not put your vote in your signature.

Use thread information only. Do not communicate outside the thread about the game, unless authorized to do so.

a) You cannot use my PMs as evidence.
b) I recommend you stay invisible during the game.
c) For those authorized to do so, feel free to use an offsite messaging board.
d) Be polite and no flaming.
e) Do not take things personally or make personal attacks.

Do not post in the thread that you quit or you are going to stop playing. You will die as soon as I see your post.

a) Do not edit your posts.
b) Do not make after death posts.

The great citizens of ACville are facing a new challenge! Can they save their town from the New Age Zombies…?

It appears that after recent events of near biological disaster, that affected the genetics of many, and the recent outbreak of blood sucking vampires, a new threat has been created.

While these Zombies need to fulfill their natural desires at night and stumble recklessly to feed on a victim, they can walk the streets and appear completely normal during the day.

Can the Townies destroy all the Zombies, before they rule the town…?

You are a Townie. You must work together to destroy the nest of Zombies before they turn ACville into their private haven and spread to the surrounding towns.

You are the town’s Doctor. You are trying to develop an antibiotic to protect the citizens of ACville. You have a weak serum and it has limited duration so it cannot be used on the same person more than once. At the onset of night, you may protect one person with it and it will save them from being turned or killed by the zombies, starting with night #3. You may communicate with the Sherriff.

You are the town’s Sherriff. Your job is to locate and eliminate the Zombies. You can do an investigation each night in your search to rid the town of this evil. You may communicate with the Doctor.

You are the Bodyguard. A self appointed task, you can protect one Townie each night from a lynching. However, your choice is for the next night’s protection. At the onset of Day 1, you will need to send me who you want to protect for night 1. As soon as night 1 rolls, you must send me who you want to protect on night 2, and so on. On the nights your protection is successful, the #2 person with the most votes.....is lynched.

You are the Mutant. You are not completely normal but haven’t been totally turned yet. You have three vials at your disposal. You must use them on Nights 2, 3 and 4. You will input 3 names to me on those nights so if lynches and zombie turns, rule out choices 1 and 2, somebody will be affected. One of the vials is an instant kill, the other two, switch normal to zombie or zombie to normal. If you get lynched, the vials will fall into someone else’s hands. If you get turned, you still function as the Mutant and cannot tell anyone of your role.

You are the Zombie Czar. You and your peons are dedicated to infest the Townies with your sick saliva. The first two nights, your pick will be turned to a Zombie and work for you. On the first two nights, the Czar must submit 3 names for turning and I will randomly decide who is turned. After night 2, it will be a 50/50 chance of a turn or death on your victim. The Zombies will get one investigation nightly, starting with night 3.

You are a Zombie. Your job is to help the Czar turn all Townies into walking dead meat, like yourselves.

The “Green Slime”. It creeps and crawls…some believe it is what started when a vampire inhaled some trapped Blue Mist that the now dead Lab Worker had hidden in their house. There is a strong possibility it will throw a twist to things…protection...death…time shift…or role reversal?

Investigations will reveal:

Normal genetics, Evil genetics, Power roles (Doctor, Sherriff, Bodyguard)

Zombies will appear Normal on night 1 and 2 investigations.

Nightly priority of events:

Doctor’s Protection
Bodyguard’s Protection
Lynch
Zombie bite
Mutant Vial
Investigations

If the Doctor, Sherriff or Bodyguard gets turned, they work for the Zombies.

The Townies win if they kill all the Zombies.

The Zombies win, when they outnumber the Townies.

[Rbishop]

Game On....

Day One Nightfall will be at 8 PM EST, Monday, 09/24

[Rbishop]

Totally random.....3 sorts on a number generator...3 sorts on roles... paired up columns...you got what I got....:grinyes:

Players:

bkw
Deputy
charlie
dangerdoll
ewurm
lady g
ogre
jl66
jpap
sway
coler
guppy
Ice
kotd
Mad


2 Zombies and 13 Normals to begin with...:grinyes:

[Madcrawdad]

First one here.....this town smells like rotting meat :yuck:

[charlie_stubbs]

darn, innocent again.

[Coler]

let the wierdness continue - great set-up rb.

I, by the way, am a normal. This means most likely I will shortly be a zombie. Why ? Because if I was a zombie czar I would say to myself mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm I want some of that gigantic Irish guiness-sozzled brain served fresh with a good chianti and some portobello mushrooms.

Hands off my brains you freaks !

[Coler]

hmmm...I think I have played with everyone here except ewurm.

This will be interesting :)

[Rbishop]

game off....

:rofl:

game on...

[IceH2O]

I'm here, checking in between football games and what not. My wife says that this game fits us perfect as we all become zombied when we play this mafia game. lol.

[Madcrawdad]

I'm here, checking in between football games and what not. My wife says that this game fits us perfect as we all become zombied when we play this mafia game. lol.

I don't even tell my wife about the games. I just tell her I'm looking at porn...if she thought I was playing mafia the whole time I was on the computer, she'd think there was something wrong with me.....:22_yikes:

[bkw1982]

I luv zombies...game on.

If u dont know how to survive a zombie atk go read the zombie thread.

[Swayde]

I'm here =) I'll have to look up how to ward off a zombie attack. I don't know much about them except they are evil and need to die. Guess that's a good start =) Oh and my husband knows I am playing another one and so far he doesn't care because it gives him more time to surf his porn or whatever it is he does when we're not playing WoW together lol.

[bkw1982]

I'm here =) I'll have to look up how to ward off a zombie attack. I don't know much about them except they are evil and need to die. Guess that's a good start =) Oh and my husband knows I am playing another one and so far he doesn't care because it gives him more time to surf his porn or whatever it is he does when we're not playing WoW together lol.

:lipssealedsmilie: I want my marriage to be like yours :headbang2:

[OgreMkV]

Good grief, how many roles can you put ina game. Let's see, a turn a night and the mutant, so everyone should be a special role... if not two or three by day three. So basically the whole thing is totally random...

I will vote to lynch whoever makes post number 35. :)

BKW: Might I suggest a 12 gauge shotgun instead of the pistol.

[bkw1982]

Good grief, how many roles can you put ina game. Let's see, a turn a night and the mutant, so everyone should be a special role... if not two or three by day three. So basically the whole thing is totally random...

I will vote to lynch whoever makes post number 35. :)

BKW: Might I suggest a 12 gauge shotgun instead of the pistol.

thats for an emergancy, the 12 gauge is under my pillow

[Swayde]

:lipssealedsmilie: I want my marriage to be like yours :headbang2:


We're just internet freaks. We actually met each other online playing MUD's back in 1997. Lived together almost 10 years, married just over 5. Been playing MMO's together the entire time and now my son plays WoW with us too =)

[IceH2O]

Unless there is a major slip up I'm voting for the last person to post.

[Swayde]

I'm thinking of voting for Lady G for how badly she tricked me last game. This is going to be tough. So many power roles, but only 2 evils right now. Last game the power roles were really throwing me off making me think half the town was evil hehe.

[Madcrawdad]

I just noticed that 'OgreMkV' could have been shortened from Ogremakóv. That sure sounds like a Russian surname, which might explain why the zombie leader is a Czar, and not a King. Hmmmm...

[bkw1982]

We're just internet freaks. We actually met each other online playing MUD's back in 1997. Lived together almost 10 years, married just over 5. Been playing MMO's together the entire time and now my son plays WoW with us too =)

thts awsome......i cant even get my GF to play anything online......but she luvs Wii

[Swayde]

thts awsome......i cant even get my GF to play anything online......but she luvs Wii


I bought a Wii for Christmas. It's so killing me to not play it lol.

[OgreMkV]

I just noticed that 'OgreMkV' could have been shortened from Ogremakóv. That sure sounds like a Russian surname, which might explain why the zombie leader is a Czar, and not a King. Hmmmm...

Oh my god...

[KingOfTheDeep]

only 20 posts so far guys? lol

[ewurm]

Ugh, Vikings vs. Chiefs = Super Bowl of Special Olympics

[ewurm]

This game is starting out slowly, so I vote to lynch Coler for no reason whatsoever.

[Coler]

(I'm ignoring that ^)

This is going to be tough for the town...there's the potential after night 2 for us to be 2 normals down (lynched wrongly) and the certainty of 2 zombie bites...which would make worse case scenario = 4 zombies play 9 normals on day 3.

So...normals need to post thoughts and analysis for 2 reasons :

1. It will be very hard, practically a shot in the dark to lynch correctly tonight. edit : but the more material out there the more likely it is that a zombie might slip up.
2. We need to be able to track changes/shifts in position, to better work out if you have been turned.

So my initial approach, over the next day, will be to look very harshly on non/lightly-posting players.

edit : all the above, and the zombies show up as innocent for 2 days...so the best hope is that the sherrif finds out a power role or two, and can steer us clear of them if we look like lynching them early on...in fact this of course may cause us confusion later if they have been turned. I'm calling the sherrif power as essentially weak at this time for those reasons. Another factor in why these first couple of days will be tough for the norms.

[Coler]

lol I see that I have plenty of company viewing the thread - everyone goes invisible now ?

[Madcrawdad]

Oh my god...

A little defensive, comrade? :)

[KingOfTheDeep]

just incase ayone has forgotten..

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v106/tokay_dude1/Z0mbie_Defence.jpg

[Dangerdoll]

howdy Pallies!! Looks like another game is on, woohoo!


lol I see that I have plenty of company viewing the thread - everyone goes invisible now ?
sheesh, Coler has it really been that long since you've played? Anyone and everyone goes invible these days.

[Coler]

howdy Pallies!! Looks like another game is on, woohoo!


sheesh, Coler has it really been that long since you've played? Anyone and everyone goes invible these days.

except for those of us with nothing to hide :)

I make a random vote to lynch John Larsson

[Lady G]

I knew this would start while I was gone!! Darn kids had to hold me to my promise of "we'll go to the park on Sunday"! Gosh don't they know I've got some zombies to kill:shakehead: Althought we had a great day, I'll post some pic's in the pic thread later.


I'm here, checking in between football games and what not. My wife says that this game fits us perfect as we all become zombied when we play this mafia game. lol.
LOL!! Yeah my hubby's all your playing ANOTHER one of those games!!...Ummm yeah the town needs me DUH!!!


I'm thinking of voting for Lady G for how badly she tricked me last game. This is going to be tough. So many power roles, but only 2 evils right now. Last game the power roles were really throwing me off making me think half the town was evil hehe.
:p: Sorry, but in my defence I wasn't evil the WHOLE time...Wanna go hid out together now??:22_yikes:


This game is starting out slowly, so I vote to lynch Coler for no reason whatsoever.
LOL!! Great to have you back Coler!!


just incase ayone has forgotten..

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v106/tokay_dude1/Z0mbie_Defence.jpg
Thanks for that King, it was a great mind refresher!

[Lady G]

Ok so Rb this looks like it's gonna be a fun round, let's see the Dr. can only protect a person once...soooo unless we forsure have the zombies beat NO ONE WITH POWER ROLES COME OUT...if it looks like you are going to be lynched try to get out of it whatever but don't come out unless you ablsolutly have to you may not be protected after that, if the Doc has already protected you, you wont know.
But then we have the bodyguard who also protects a person a night so this will be helpful for us!! Yeah thanks RB
EWWW...green slime!!:crazy:
and EEEK vials again...have I mentioned I HATE NEEDLES!!!
WOW so there is a chance to loose 3 a night is that right?? If we lynch wrong, the "mutant, and the zombie?
Were you mad at the "townies" when you made this game?

[IceH2O]

Go to say I'm not a fan of green slime, blue mist/fog or anything that changes what we know to unknown.


I can live with the vials as its not a stomach turner brain twister.

Looks like DC Jpap or JL might be the lucky recipient of my vote.


Quick question, is nightfall tomorrow night? I thought the sign up thread said it would begin with 48 hour days.

[Rbishop]

game off...

Be sure to read the rules on the Doctors' and the Bodyguards' protection, closely.

game on...

[Rbishop]

Go to say I'm not a fan of green slime, blue mist/fog or anything that changes what we know to unknown.


I can live with the vials as its not a stomach turner brain twister.

Looks like DC Jpap or JL might be the lucky recipient of my vote.


Quick question, is nightfall tomorrow night? I thought the sign up thread said it would begin with 48 hour days.


I had hoped for 48 hrs, but it took awhile to get 15 players, so vice dragging it out to a long day one, I thought to call it at 8 PM EST Monday, 09/24.

[IceH2O]

Sounds good just wanted to make sure.

[Dangerdoll]

except for those of us with nothing to hide :)

I make a random vote to lynch John Larsson
hoo-boy.... Coler, I dunno if anyone shows visible here now, 'cept maybe you.... which could be perceived as suspicious activity :D

[IceH2O]

You are the Bodyguard. A self appointed task, you can protect one Townie each night from a lynching. However, your choice is for the next night’s protection. At the onset of Day 1, you will need to send me who you want to protect for night 1. As soon as night 1 rolls, you must send me who you want to protect on night 2, and so on. On the nights your protection is successful, the #2 person with the most votes.....is lynched.

Thats the scary part. Especially once the zombies start to get numbers.Even if we find out during the day someone is evil, if the BG has protected that person before knowing, and some people park votes then don't check back we could lynch an innocent by accident.

[Coler]

hoo-boy.... Coler, I dunno if anyone shows visible here now, 'cept maybe you.... which could be perceived as suspicious activity :D

suspect away DD suspect away

[OgreMkV]

oh, great poster number 35 is... of course, rb... geez man. Did you do that on purpose.

Right now, we have the edge on power roles... 2 zombies to the doc, sheriff, and BG. Mutant is too weird, but maybe could be used to change a zombie back to human if we can identify the zombies... but the sheriff is useless until turn three... and so is the doc

So basically, the zombies have us by the short and curlies cause they can do anything they want and we can't do jack. RB, we are going to have a serious discussion behind my house with a baseball bat and your knees.

OK, Coler's in super paranoid mode, but he's also most probably a zombie or soon to become one. I'd almost rather just lynch him and have him gone than working for the zombies. OK, the first zombie turns are random... that's goofy too cause we can't predict.

Ice is right, we have to be prepared to lose either of the top two vote getters too.

I don't even know where to start.

[Rbishop]

oh, great poster number 35 is... of course, rb... geez man. Did you do that on purpose.

Right now, we have the edge on power roles... 2 zombies to the doc, sheriff, and BG. Mutant is too weird, but maybe could be used to change a zombie back to human if we can identify the zombies... but the sheriff is useless until turn three... and so is the doc

So basically, the zombies have us by the short and curlies cause they can do anything they want and we can't do jack. RB, we are going to have a serious discussion behind my house with a baseball bat and your knees.

OK, Coler's in super paranoid mode, but he's also most probably a zombie or soon to become one. I'd almost rather just lynch him and have him gone than working for the zombies. OK, the first zombie turns are random... that's goofy too cause we can't predict.

Ice is right, we have to be prepared to lose either of the top two vote getters too.

I don't even know where to start.


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[Madcrawdad]

edit : all the above, and the zombies show up as innocent for 2 days...so the best hope is that the sherrif finds out a power role or two, and can steer us clear of them if we look like lynching them early on...in fact this of course may cause us confusion later if they have been turned. I'm calling the sherrif power as essentially weak at this time for those reasons. Another factor in why these first couple of days will be tough for the norms.

Coler, this post concerns me....

By suggesting that the sheriff even consider 'steering' the town's lynch on days 1 or 2, it almost looks like you're fishing for the sheriff.

Playing out in the open, by trying to guide the town, could leave the sheriff open to a zombie kill (or even worse, turn). Keep in mind that although you say that the sheriff is currently 'weak,' the sheriff would prove a very valuable addition to the zombie team.

If the sheriff were to be turned:

- the doctor would likely be turned/killed next, as the sheriff and doctor know each other's identities. (if the doctor is turned 1st, the sheriff goes next)

- the zombies would get an immediate investigation, and on and after night 3 would receive 2 investigations (1 sheriff, 1 czar)

For these reasons alone, the sheriff and doctor need to play their cards pretty close to the vest. A zombie turn of either the sheriff or doc would prove disastrous for the town....the town would be better off just lynching the power role as opposed to the sheriff even giving a hint of who they are.

The only time that I would suggest the sheriff consider giving any information, is if they're about to be lynched (or they have a lot of zombie names and are afraid they may be turned/killed). Not to save themselves, but to help the town after they're gone.

Also remember that the doctor can only protect the sheriff for 1 night, so an 'outed' sheriff is a bad thing to have....

[IceH2O]

darn, innocent again.


let the wierdness continue - great set-up rb.

I, by the way, am a normal. This means most likely I will shortly be a zombie. Why ? Because if I was a zombie czar I would say to myself mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm I want some of that gigantic Irish guiness-sozzled brain served fresh with a good chianti and some portobello mushrooms.

Hands off my brains you freaks !



If you want to start looking at out of place things the very 1st posts are mysterious to me.

Why would Charlie post darn innocent again when he knows in the past we considered that a screw up? Could it be that he has played so often we know he knows and that we'd think it was a joke? Does it automatically make us think he is innocent?

Then Coler does the same thing basically. 1st post is about how he is innocent but assumes he'll be turned. Why even put it into our heads that you're innocent?

Anyone here want to come out and say their evil? I assume everyone if given the choice would post I am normal and I guess because they posted it that we're supposed to think they are.

Then the last post about the Sheriff worries me a little bit too.

[Swayde]

:p: Sorry, but in my defence I wasn't evil the WHOLE time...Wanna go hid out together now??:22_yikes:





I'm kinda thinking that would be a little bit too distracting for the guys =)

[Swayde]

I vote to lynch Coler because he's the only person who's posted so far that doesn't have a zombie related avatar.

*Disclaimer* This vote is highly subject to change as the day progresses.

[Swayde]

Doh! Just realized Ewurm's isn't a zombie one either.

[IceH2O]

Neither is Charlies lol....skimming???? LMAO

[Lady G]

Wow, making a "slide-show" sure takes a while...I posted it in the pic thread if ya want to see our day in the park...see I'm normal no zombiness to me:)


I'm kinda thinking that would be a little bit too distracting for the guys =)
LOL!!! Well if they are real nice and pass the zombie test...btw how do you test for zombiness??? Maybe they can come hid out with us:lipssealedsmilie:


If you want to start looking at out of place things the very 1st posts are mysterious to me.

Why would Charlie post darn innocent again when he knows in the past we considered that a screw up? Could it be that he has played so often we know he knows and that we'd think it was a joke? Does it automatically make us think he is innocent?

Then Coler does the same thing basically. 1st post is about how he is innocent but assumes he'll be turned. Why even put it into our heads that you're innocent?

Anyone here want to come out and say their evil? I assume everyone if given the choice would post I am normal and I guess because they posted it that we're supposed to think they are.

Then the last post about the Sheriff worries me a little bit too.

Sooooo if I say I'm EVIL you will know I'm innocent????:confused:

[Swayde]

Neither is Charlies lol....skimming???? LMAO


Guilty! I just got back from Cracker Barrel and I ate way too much so I just quickly skimmed through all the posts I read earlier, read the new ones, updated my spreadsheet with the order of the people who've posted since before I went out and decided to comment. It seemed like a good idea at the time.

:hitting:

[Lady G]

Fine then I will vote to lynch Charlie...since he dosn't have a zombie related avatar either!!!!!!!!!!!!

This WILL change before nightfall just goin with the flow here.

Anyway I wanted to point out..Guppy said she wouldn't start if the game started Sunday cause she wouldn't be around...then RB said it would be 48hr day's so she said she would sign up, if she dosn't post before nightfall is she going to die??? This is something I thought to be important since we chance to loose quite a few on the first night!

[Swayde]

I retract my vote for Coler because my accusations have come to light as completely unfounded.

[Lady G]

I retract my vote for Coler because my accusations have come to light as completely unfounded.

Oh I see trying to make me look bad already are ya!! Ummm...how are they unfounded Sway, he still doesn't have a zombie avatar..are you "protecting" already hmmmmm:D

[Swayde]

Oh I see trying to make me look bad already are ya!! Ummm...how are they unfounded Sway, he still doesn't have a zombie avatar..are you "protecting" already hmmmmm:D


Well I said he was the only one who'd posted without a zombie related avatar, which now I know is untrue =/ I can't in good conscience vote on someone when I know I made a mistake. Now if we find bits of leprachauns all over town then Coler just might be a zombie.

Why would you think i am trying to make you look bad? Are you bad? Do you have something to hide? hrm.....

[IceH2O]

Wow, making a "slide-show" sure takes a while...I posted it in the pic thread if ya want to see our day in the park...see I'm normal no zombiness to me:)

Or you were planning out your weekly meal plan. Did you talk to anyone? Anyone seem really smart and


LOL!!! Well if they are real nice and pass the zombie test...btw how do you test for zombiness??? Maybe they can come hid out with us:lipssealedsmilie:



Sooooo if I say I'm EVIL you will know I'm innocent????:confused:



No one would say they were evil, thats the point.

It does no good to say I'm innocent to begin the game.

But I'd believe Darn I'm evil again as a joke before I would Darn I'm innocent again.

Now you've posted it too. Thats 3 people claiming innocence and the game hasn't really even started.

Why do innocents want to try and confuse us this early in the game and bring suspicion upon themselves?

[IceH2O]

Ignore the red, I thought I removed it and was planning on making a joke.

[Coler]

OK good some thoughts and twitches out there



OK, Coler's in super paranoid mode, but he's also most probably a zombie or soon to become one. I'd almost rather just lynch him and have him gone than working for the zombies.

Absolutely not in super paranoid mode at all. Your response however, noted :D Come on...you would take me out by a lynch based on 'I'd rather not take a chance??'...this is awful logic, based on the fact that there are sooooooo many good players in this game. I pretty much anticipated some talk like this and decided I would view the person coming out with it as suspicious in my mind - I presently read this as an effort to distract, with a side-hope of actually starting something against me. I also think I would make a poor zombie turn because for whatever reason, I always get investigated early on so would be revealed quickly - they would prefer to lynch me.

I am perfectly happy, being a normal, to say to the town that if you feel safer with me gone, lynch me tonight. This is effectively what Ogre is saying - of course, I can assure you, it would be a mistake, I am one of the good guys. edit : please take a close look at the logic Ogre is offering here, in the context of how many good & experienced players there are in this game. It's nonsense. I am not super-mafiadude at all, my record is pretty miserable in many ways.



Coler, this post concerns me....

By suggesting that the sheriff even consider 'steering' the town's lynch on days 1 or 2, it almost looks like you're fishing for the sheriff.

Playing out in the open, by trying to guide the town, could leave the sheriff open to a zombie kill (or even worse, turn). Keep in mind that although you say that the sheriff is currently 'weak,' the sheriff would prove a very valuable addition to the zombie team.



Mad makes a fair point - please read 'steer', which was a poor choice of word, as meaning I don't know...don't vote for them & campaign for their innocence (this won't arise until earliest tomorrow anyway). I absolutely agree that in this set-up an outed sherriff is an absolute disaster unless he/she has a list of zombies to work through.


If you want to start looking at out of place things the very 1st posts are mysterious to me.

Why would Charlie post darn innocent again when he knows in the past we considered that a screw up? Could it be that he has played so often we know he knows and that we'd think it was a joke? Does it automatically make us think he is innocent?

Then Coler does the same thing basically. 1st post is about how he is innocent but assumes he'll be turned. Why even put it into our heads that you're innocent?
Then the last post about the Sheriff worries me a little bit too.

See above re post about sheriff - I agree it was badly put.

Asserting my innocence ? meh - as I say above back to Ogre, its wrapped within a joke. There's no need to be worried, unless you're a zombie.

[Lady G]

I just noticed that 'OgreMkV' could have been shortened from Ogremakóv. That sure sounds like a Russian surname, which might explain why the zombie leader is a Czar, and not a King. Hmmmm...


Oh my god...
Think maybe Mad is on to something here:confused:


Well I said he was the only one who'd posted without a zombie related avatar, which now I know is untrue =/ I can't in good conscience vote on someone when I know I made a mistake. Now if we find bits of leprachauns all over town then Coler just might be a zombie.

Why would you think i am trying to make you look bad? Are you bad? Do you have something to hide? hrm.....
Maybe the ones without a zombie avatar are the evils, maybe you are on to something there too....eh, heck I doubt it so I retract my vote on Charlie

No one would say they were evil, thats the point.

It does no good to say I'm innocent to begin the game.

But I'd believe Darn I'm evil again as a joke before I would Darn I'm innocent again.

Now you've posted it too. Thats 3 people claiming innocence and the game hasn't really even started.

Why do innocents want to try and confuse us this early in the game and bring suspicion upon themselves?
I didn't say I was evil or innocent just asking a question if I say I'm evil would you think I was innocent that's all.
And btw: NO I WASN"T OUT LOOKING FOR DINNER!!!:eek:

[Coler]

a true townie would want me in the game until proven evil. this can be done as early as night 3. I post a lot, so anything I say as we lead up to that point would be instantly revealed as zombie garbage once discovered, if that was the case, which it isn't.

I retract my random vote for JL and I am rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrreally close to where I will vote for Ogre.

[Lady G]

Oh, I have a question...if you are innocent, turned evil...can you say HEY someone vial me so I can be innocent again?????

[Lady G]

Just a side note...the only ones who haven't posted yet are Jpap, JL and Guppy (which Gup I wouldn't expect a post from till tomorrow, b/c of what she said in sign-up).

[IceH2O]

Don't forget DC, I didn't include guppy when I posted non posters for the reason given.

[Lady G]

Ahhh..something I just noticed in the rules:
If the Doctor, Sherriff or Bodyguard gets turned, they work for the Zombies

Do they keep thier "powers" like to protect ppl and stuff?????:eek:

[Lady G]

Well, I have to go for a while...BBL! Hope more have posted and more is going on when I get back

[Coler]

hmmm...I see many tracks going to the woods but none coming out...i.e. there are some pretty cagey people on the thread.

My vote is coming your way Ogre - I'll log back on one more time before I hit the hay :D

[Madcrawdad]

Mad makes a fair point - please read 'steer', which was a poor choice of word, as meaning I don't know...don't vote for them & campaign for their innocence (this won't arise until earliest tomorrow anyway). I absolutely agree that in this set-up an outed sherriff is an absolute disaster unless he/she has a list of zombies to work through.


I understood that by 'steer' you meant vote elsewhere and plead the lynchee's innocence...thing is, anyone campaigning for another player's innocence (especially on day 1 or 2), is sure to raise suspicion among the zombies. IMO, if another power role is about to be lynched, the sheriff should vote elsewhere, and maybe campaign for the 'guilt' of HIS candidate, and NOT for the 'innocence' of majority's candidate. Campaigning for anyone's innocence is going to earn the sheriff a close look by the zombies.

[Coler]

I think I broadly agree mad - its a question of nuances after that

[IceH2O]

I understood that by 'steer' you meant vote elsewhere and plead the lynchee's innocence...thing is, anyone campaigning for another player's innocence (especially on day 1 or 2), is sure to raise suspicion among the zombies. IMO, if another power role is about to be lynched, the sheriff should vote elsewhere, and maybe campaign for the 'guilt' of HIS candidate, and NOT for the 'innocence' of majority's candidate. Campaigning for anyone's innocence is going to earn the sheriff a close look by the zombies.

Well it can't be that early because any investigation shows innocent the 1st 2 days and the sheriff and Dr can't communicate till Day 3.

[OgreMkV]

I know I shouldn't do this because it supports the notion that I have something to hide... which I don't.


let the wierdness continue - great set-up rb.

I, by the way, am a normal. This means most likely I will shortly be a zombie. Why ? Because if I was a zombie czar I would say to myself mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm I want some of that gigantic Irish guiness-sozzled brain served fresh with a good chianti and some portobello mushrooms.

Hands off my brains you freaks !

OK, maybe not paranoid, but some weird psychological thing.


(I'm ignoring that ^)

This is going to be tough for the town...there's the potential after night 2 for us to be 2 normals down (lynched wrongly) and the certainty of 2 zombie bites...which would make worse case scenario = 4 zombies play 9 normals on day 3.

So...normals need to post thoughts and analysis for 2 reasons :

1. It will be very hard, practically a shot in the dark to lynch correctly tonight. edit : but the more material out there the more likely it is that a zombie might slip up.
2. We need to be able to track changes/shifts in position, to better work out if you have been turned.

So my initial approach, over the next day, will be to look very harshly on non/lightly-posting players.

edit : all the above, and the zombies show up as innocent for 2 days...so the best hope is that the sherrif finds out a power role or two, and can steer us clear of them if we look like lynching them early on...in fact this of course may cause us confusion later if they have been turned. I'm calling the sherrif power as essentially weak at this time for those reasons. Another factor in why these first couple of days will be tough for the norms.

Now we're approaching paranoid, but I said pretty much the same thing. I wouldn't call the sheriff role weak, but it's not superman.


OK good some thoughts and twitches out there



Absolutely not in super paranoid mode at all. Your response however, noted :D Come on...you would take me out by a lynch based on 'I'd rather not take a chance??'...this is awful logic, based on the fact that there are sooooooo many good players in this game. I pretty much anticipated some talk like this and decided I would view the person coming out with it as suspicious in my mind - I presently read this as an effort to distract, with a side-hope of actually starting something against me. I also think I would make a poor zombie turn because for whatever reason, I always get investigated early on so would be revealed quickly - they would prefer to lynch me.

Why would the sheriff investigate you early... remember, zombies appear normal until the third night. So you want to be investigated early?

I am perfectly happy, being a normal, to say to the town that if you feel safer with me gone, lynch me tonight. This is effectively what Ogre is saying - of course, I can assure you, it would be a mistake, I am one of the good guys. edit : please take a close look at the logic Ogre is offering here, in the context of how many good & experienced players there are in this game. It's nonsense. I am not super-mafiadude at all, my record is pretty miserable in many ways.

Please take a close look at what Coler is saying. He has twice protested his innocence in less than 12 hours. Your record, when you survive, is pretty good.

Look, I would prefer to not lynch anyone today. These 'builder' games are dangerous in the first two turns. The chances of us being down four (or even five) innocents is very good. With only thirteen innocents, that means we're lost on turn three or four if we screw up.

The problem is that we have many good leaders in this game. You are one of the better analysts... just look at the way you jumped on me like a dog on a sausage. The leaders generally have different ideas and that generally causes two or three sides and everyone on all the sides are innocent. The bad guys, at this point, just sit back and laugh.



Mad makes a fair point - please read 'steer', which was a poor choice of word, as meaning I don't know...don't vote for them & campaign for their innocence (this won't arise until earliest tomorrow anyway). I absolutely agree that in this set-up an outed sherriff is an absolute disaster unless he/she has a list of zombies to work through.



See above re post about sheriff - I agree it was badly put.

Asserting my innocence ? meh - as I say above back to Ogre, its wrapped within a joke. There's no need to be worried, unless you're a zombie.

So you can joke about being an innocent, but I can't joke about you being paranoid?


a true townie would want me in the game until proven evil. this can be done as early as night 3. I post a lot, so anything I say as we lead up to that point would be instantly revealed as zombie garbage once discovered, if that was the case, which it isn't.

I retract my random vote for JL and I am rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrreally close to where I will vote for Ogre.


Vote as you feel you need to. Note, I never said I thought you were a zombie, I said you were paranoid. In my world, that's a good thing. Look at who dies in the zombie movies... the ones that are NOT SUFFICIENTLY PARANOID!

OK, I'll shut up now. Coler, we have bigger fish to fry. Let's try to find the zombies.

BTW: My most likely zombie list is the ones who haven't posted yet.

[OgreMkV]

I understood that by 'steer' you meant vote elsewhere and plead the lynchee's innocence...thing is, anyone campaigning for another player's innocence (especially on day 1 or 2), is sure to raise suspicion among the zombies. IMO, if another power role is about to be lynched, the sheriff should vote elsewhere, and maybe campaign for the 'guilt' of HIS candidate, and NOT for the 'innocence' of majority's candidate. Campaigning for anyone's innocence is going to earn the sheriff a close look by the zombies.

Guys, might I suggest we (y'all) quit discussing the sherrif's role. You might be giving them some ideas, but you're also giving a free ride to the zombies. All they have to do is follow your advice and then declare themselves the sheriff.

[Madcrawdad]

Well it can't be that early because any investigation shows innocent the 1st 2 days and the sheriff and Dr can't communicate till Day 3.

Think that you read the rules wrong, Ice. See below for role descriptions of Doc/Sheriff. It looks like they communicate immediately.



You are the town’s Doctor. You are trying to develop an antibiotic to protect the citizens of ACville. You have a weak serum and it has limited duration so it cannot be used on the same person more than once. At the onset of night, you may protect one person with it and it will save them from being turned or killed by the zombies, starting with night #3. You may communicate with the Sherriff.

You are the town’s Sherriff. Your job is to locate and eliminate the Zombies. You can do an investigation each night in your search to rid the town of this evil. You may communicate with the Doctor.

[Coler]

@ Ogre

what you say about me 'wanting to be investigated early' is dealt with already by me pointing out that in fact this can happen with any real significance only as early as night 3. This was said in response to your quite frankly odd suggestion that I should just be voted out now, to be on the safe side.

you did not appear to be joking as regards my 'paranoia' in your earlier post. I invite anyone who wants to read my first post, then read ogres post 41. In post 41 Ogre says :



OK, Coler's in super paranoid mode, but he's also most probably a zombie or soon to become one. I'd almost rather just lynch him and have him gone than working for the zombies. OK, the first zombie turns are random... that's goofy too cause we can't predict.


this is a joke ? only in retrospect Ogre, only in retrospect.

you don't address the wrongheaded, in my opinion, logic of voting me out now just to be safe.

you're still my vote pending developments.

[Coler]

Guys, might I suggest we (y'all) quit discussing the sherrif's role. You might be giving them some ideas, but you're also giving a free ride to the zombies. All they have to do is follow your advice and then declare themselves the sheriff.

can't possibly agree - there is nothing in what I or Mad has said that could be of any assistance to the zombies.

edit : (so as not to chuck up another fresh post )


BTW: My most likely zombie list is the ones who haven't posted yet.


Ogre...please explain - Guppy said she would not join in until Monday I believe, leaving only JL and jpap as non-posters...how llikely that the two of them are our zombies ? In my opinion scum join early.

[bkw1982]

i find the best way to get answer is by voting for someone.
i vote to destroy the brain of mad

[bkw1982]

i hav a can of sprite and a box of wheat thins......im readyto destroy some zombies

[IceH2O]

Think that you read the rules wrong, Ice. See below for role descriptions of Doc/Sheriff. It looks like they communicate immediately.

Thanks I did misread it.

Either way investigations are worthless the 1st 2 nights as everyone shows innocent. The most they could do is steer us away from one another. But I agree that would be a mistake, it would be safer to just push for a vote on a player they assume is evil.

[OgreMkV]

I understood that by 'steer' you meant vote elsewhere and plead the lynchee's innocence...thing is, anyone campaigning for another player's innocence (especially on day 1 or 2), is sure to raise suspicion among the zombies. IMO, if another power role is about to be lynched, the sheriff should vote elsewhere, and maybe campaign for the 'guilt' of HIS candidate, and NOT for the 'innocence' of majority's candidate. Campaigning for anyone's innocence is going to earn the sheriff a close look by the zombies.


can't possibly agree - there is nothing in what I or Mad has said that could be of any assistance to the zombies.

Note the statement in blue... that's basically an instruction. No one but the sheriff and the doc know who the sheriff is. He can't come out because he can't be protected every night. So if someone does what mad suggests, then they could claim to be the sheriff and say they were following Mad's instructions.


edit : (so as not to chuck up another fresh post )


Ogre...please explain - Guppy said she would not join in until Monday I believe, leaving only JL and jpap as non-posters...how llikely that the two of them are our zombies ? In my opinion scum join early.


OK, There's JL and jpap as non-posters... so? That's what I'm thinking. I didn't say it was right. Jesus, you're a sanctimonious guy... from now on I won't be able to say crap without you jumping all over me. But when I say something against what you said, I'm instantly vote worthy.

That's one reason that I was "ALMOST WILLING" to lynch you first. Note the almost willing part.

Of course, now I'm defending myself, which is a sure giveaway to zombieness. :shakehead:

Listen, I wasn't going to vote for you. I wasn't planning on voting for you. When you see my vote in bold, then you know who I'm voting for. I'll also tell you why and it will probably be a better reason than because he's a good player that will probably be zombified unless he's already a zombie.

I'm done with this conversation. If you have something more than me accusing you of being paranoid, then bring it, but until then, I don't want to hear about it.

[DeputyChiefJR]

Whew! I'm here, I was watching football and had no idea the game began...All I can think of with this game is the prepearations my friends and I went through while they were living in a farmhouse in college....We had plenty of swords and axes that we knew would come in handy during zombie attacks. I finally get to put our preparation to use...Sweeeeeet....

[Coler]

*ahem*


Jesus, you're a sanctimonious guy...

sanctimonious

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edit : no I will not respond in kind.

I vote to lynch Ogre

edit again : sorry for a messy post I unvote Ogre

[OgreMkV]

Coler: I apologize for calling you sanctimonious. That was unkind and inappropriate for the game.

[Coler]

no prob buddy :)

[OgreMkV]

Blame it on low blood sugar.

[Coler]

heheh - naw I took umbrage too fast; its my drug of choice :)

[Swayde]

I vote to lynch Jpappy because he has not posted yet and I have to vote for someone per the rules. I will most likely change my vote as new evidence is presented and reviewed.

[DeputyChiefJR]

I vote to lynch Lady G.Because she's fooled me far too long

[OgreMkV]

I vote to lynch JohnLarson, because if I don't he'll think something is wrong with me.

I should be back before the deadline and change my vote accordingly.

[ewurm]

heheh - naw I took umbrage too fast; its my drug of choice :)

Ugh, I Just noticed that Coler is a true Irishman, I can't place my random vote on him. I love the old country.

I retract my vote for coler and vote to lynch jpap, also for no reason.

[guppyguppyfish]

hi, im back

[IceH2O]

Anyone else worried that we just watched a Zombie commercial?

Lets attack one another but before it gets to far we'll chill out.

Scene 1 Finger pointing

Scene 2 Argument

Scene 3 Become friends

Scene 4 Low blood sugar - share brains of a Type 1 diabetic ( they have high blood sugar because they have low or no insulin)






Its to early and I doubt Ogre would freak the 1st day but it is reminiscent of some of his evil meltdowns.

I also don't understand why Coler would retract his vote after that response. It seems like he had him right where he wanted him. Do they think they pushed it to far? Coler removing his vote supposed to make us feel better about Ogres innocence or lack of?


:feedback:

I'll have to mull this over, I'll place my vote either tonight or in the morning most likely. Have to think about this.

[Madcrawdad]

Guys, might I suggest we (y'all) quit discussing the sherrif's role. You might be giving them some ideas, but you're also giving a free ride to the zombies. All they have to do is follow your advice and then declare themselves the sheriff.

I disagree, there's ways of sorting thru that mess if it were to happen, but I'm not going to give ideas before it happens.

[bkw1982]

Mad would u say ur top two suspects are coler and orge? besides the role discussion u mentioned both ogre and colers post.

Although role discussion is important i agree with orgre that we should let the sheriff worry about the role.

my vote stays on mad for the time being.

[Lady G]

Ok, I'm back (obviously) wow did we get an all out war between Ogre and Coler or what:eek:

I vote to lynch Lady G.Because she's fooled me far too long
OMG...silly:

hi, im back
Hey Guppy...glad to see you join! Now we just have jpap and JL right.

[Madcrawdad]

Ninety some posts and not one role-play. Maybe if you count Lady G's offer to bunker down with Swayde?

[Madcrawdad]

Mad would u say ur top two suspects are coler and orge? besides the role discussion u mentioned both ogre and colers post.

Although role discussion is important i agree with orgre that we should let the sheriff worry about the role.

my vote stays on mad for the time being.

Not necessarily...maybe you. You tossed a vote for me claiming it was to 'get answers.' You never asked any questions.

The point of the sheriff discussion was to point out that Coler looked like he may have been fishing...not to clarify any roles.

[Swayde]

Ninety some posts and not one role-play. Maybe if you count Lady G's offer to bunker down with Swayde?


bow chicka bow wow :D

[bkw1982]

yup i voted for u, and it took me asking u a direct question to get u to respond to me.......i would think u want to knw why i voted for u. u never even asked. where u just hopin i remv it? not draw any attention?

[Dangerdoll]

WOW.... I dunno what the deal was between Coler and Ogre and maybe I am just not used to you guys because you haven't been in a few of the most recent games.... Coler, yeah, seems nervous but Ogre... wowee! I could see you two in cahoots.... lesseee.....

[Lady G]

oh, great poster number 35 is... of course, rb... geez man. Did you do that on purpose.

Right now, we have the edge on power roles... 2 zombies to the doc, sheriff, and BG. Mutant is too weird, but maybe could be used to change a zombie back to human if we can identify the zombies... but the sheriff is useless until turn three... and so is the doc

So basically, the zombies have us by the short and curlies cause they can do anything they want and we can't do jack. RB, we are going to have a serious discussion behind my house with a baseball bat and your knees.

OK, Coler's in super paranoid mode, but he's also most probably a zombie or soon to become one. I'd almost rather just lynch him and have him gone than working for the zombies. OK, the first zombie turns are random... that's goofy too cause we can't predict.

Ice is right, we have to be prepared to lose either of the top two vote getters too.

I don't even know where to start.
Ogre...did you really mean that?? I believe Coler is a good player and would much rather keep him around as Lynch em off "just in case" if we did that with everyone who could be a threat, because they may/may not be turned we'd loose half the town. I really do not like when ppl say "well, we might as well kill so/so off because if/when they are changed they would be bad to have against us".


Ninety some posts and not one role-play. Maybe if you count Lady G's offer to bunker down with Swayde?
Yeah I noticed no role play also..maybe everyone is worried to become JL's first Lynch vote?

[Lady G]

bow chicka bow wow :D
:rofl:

[Lady G]

Ok we need to hear more from Charlie, Kotd, Ewurm, and just plain need to hear from Jpap and JL! Gosh what, you would think it was football day or something!!!!!!!!!
I think we need a new rule for the game...no day ones on football day's for some reason some of the guy's seem to think watching football is more important then zombie killing...hmf..as if:thumbsdown:

[Madcrawdad]

yup i voted for u, and it took me asking u a direct question to get u to respond to me.......i would think u want to knw why i voted for u. u never even asked. where u just hopin i remv it? not draw any attention?

What would you have liked a response to? You didn't ask a question. People vote for me all the time. Was I supposed to freak out because your vote was on me?

Not sure if you realize, but I'm pretty sure that EVERY game we've played together, you've tossed a vote my way at some point. Last time it was because of my avatar (you were scum then, I wasn't). I pretty much figured that this was more of the same.

[Lady G]

What would you have liked a response to? You didn't ask a question. People vote for me all the time. Was I supposed to freak out because your vote was on me?

Not sure if you realize, but I'm pretty sure that EVERY game we've played together, you've tossed a vote my way at some point. Last time it was because of my avatar (you were scum then, I wasn't). I pretty much figured that this was more of the same.
Although I have to agree a question should be asked if you want a response but Mad...I beg to differ, last time you were on the scumbag side remember, you, me, RB , ogre?????

[Madcrawdad]

Although I have to agree a question should be asked if you want a response but Mad...I beg to differ, last time you were on the scumbag side remember, you, me, RB , ogre?????

Last time I played w/ BKW was the Bloody Coup game...he was scum, I wasn't.

[DeputyChiefJR]

Wow, this is a crazy first day...

[bkw1982]

What would you have liked a response to? You didn't ask a question. People vote for me all the time. Was I supposed to freak out because your vote was on me?

Not sure if you realize, but I'm pretty sure that EVERY game we've played together, you've tossed a vote my way at some point. Last time it was because of my avatar (you were scum then, I wasn't). I pretty much figured that this was more of the same.

didnt expect u to freak out, but a response makes sense. maybe u know something i dont so ur not worried about the vote.

[IceH2O]

I'm getting ready to go to bed and still not sure of the Ogre/Coler battle.

For now I'm going to vote to lynch Charlie based solely on his darn I'm innocent again post. He should know better and I think its more reverse psychology then just a joke.

Subject to change tomorrow after more info becomes available.

[Madcrawdad]

didnt expect u to freak out, but a response makes sense. maybe u know something i dont so ur not worried about the vote.


Not sure what you're saying, but here's a list of all your posts up until you started trying to blend in and look like you were actually thinking about the game...I was happy just to see you looking like you were looking.


I luv zombies...game on.

If u dont know how to survive a zombie atk go read the zombie thread.


:lipssealedsmilie: I want my marriage to be like yours :headbang2:


thats for an emergancy, the 12 gauge is under my pillow


thts awsome......i cant even get my GF to play anything online......but she luvs Wii


i find the best way to get answer is by voting for someone.
i vote to destroy the brain of mad


i hav a can of sprite and a box of wheat thins......im readyto destroy some zombies

I apologize if you feel slighted because I didn't acknowledge your vote...

[Lady G]

Ok, guys for what it's worth at this point if I were to look at two ppl I think I'd have to look at Charlie and Ogre.

Charlie: Because he has only posted the one post coming out and saying "innocent"...If I remember correctly (please if I'm wrong let me know) but isn't Charlie one who hounds ppl for saying they are innocent and early on at that?

Ogre well because he is playing a little weird IMO, right now anyway.



BTW: My most likely zombie list is the ones who haven't posted yet.
[/COLOR]
I only posted this because he later he said, pretty much the opposite.


OK, There's JL and jpap as non-posters... so? That's what I'm thinking. I didn't say it was right. Jesus, you're a sanctimonious guy... from now on I won't be able to say crap without you jumping all over me. But when I say something against what you said, I'm instantly vote worthy.
Now unless I am miss reading something here he is saying "so what if they haven't voted yet? If I'm miss reading please let me know.
That's one reason that I was "ALMOST WILLING" to lynch you first. Note the almost willing part.

Of course, now I'm defending myself, which is a sure giveaway to zombieness. :shakehead:

Listen, I wasn't going to vote for you. I wasn't planning on voting for you. When you see my vote in bold, then you know who I'm voting for. I'll also tell you why and it will probably be a better reason than because he's a good player that will probably be zombified unless he's already a zombie.

I'm done with this conversation. If you have something more than me accusing you of being paranoid, then bring it, but until then, I don't want to hear about it.

Ouch:eek: Yes, Ogre I'd say you are getting a little defencive here.
But before you said you would rather vote him then wait till he was turned (no not exact wording)

Now this is just a quick thought, by no means am I saying I will not change my mind...most likely I WILL change my mind I am just saying at this point in time they would be my most "suspicious" 2. I am not voting right now and I most likely will not vote until tomorrow..once all the football watcher have had time to read through and make some comments.

[Lady G]

Last time I played w/ BKW was the Bloody Coup game...he was scum, I wasn't.

Ahhh I see what you were saying now, hmm see how well that worked..I asked a question and he answered it!

[johnlarson66]

Wow, over 100 posts and no role playing. I love it.

Even thou the late game is still on, I am online. I have spent most of the day with my family and watching football.

Since no one has role played. I need to figure out who to vote for. I want to vote this first day.


Ugh, Vikings vs. Chiefs = Super Bowl of Special Olympics

Since I like the Chiefs, I really so no reason not to vote for ewurm. There is something about Viking fans that raise a red flag.

I vote to lynch ewurm

I will be able to play at work tomorrow, I am back home.

[jpappy789]

Oh man, tough day at work...I'm exhausted. Now I have to finish a paper...I hate writer's block...

No real thoughts yet but the back and forth between coler and ogre was interesting...

I will remeber to vote this time :) Until then...goodnight!

But

[jpappy789]

ooops what's that "but" at the end for...:D

[bkw1982]

Not sure what you're saying, but here's a list of all your posts up until you started trying to blend in and look like you were actually thinking about the game...I was happy just to see you looking like you were looking.

I apologize if you feel slighted because I didn't acknowledge your vote...

no apologie needed, u had other things on u mind at the time, what with the sheriff thing. :)

[bkw1982]

Ahhh I see what you were saying now, hmm see how well that worked..I asked a question and he answered it!

i dont think u understand how it works cause u never asked him a question, but good try.

[ewurm]

Wow, over 100 posts and no role playing. I love it.

Even thou the late game is still on, I am online. I have spent most of the day with my family and watching football.

Since no one has role played. I need to figure out who to vote for. I want to vote this first day.



Since I like the Chiefs, I really so no reason not to vote for ewurm. There is something about Viking fans that raise a red flag.

I vote to lynch ewurm

I will be able to play at work tomorrow, I am back home.

You and I butt heads often! You can retract your vote. The Vikings once again proved to be a team of futility. I heard a rumor they fumbled the coin toss.

[ewurm]

Wow, over 100 posts and no role playing. I love it.

Even thou the late game is still on, I am online. I have spent most of the day with my family and watching football.

Since no one has role played. I need to figure out who to vote for. I want to vote this first day.



Since I like the Chiefs, I really so no reason not to vote for ewurm. There is something about Viking fans that raise a red flag.

I vote to lynch ewurm

I will be able to play at work tomorrow, I am back home.

I love it. I retract my vote and vote to lynch JohnLarson66 because I love an epic battle. LOL

[Swayde]

Well that's interesting. JL and Jpappy finally show up and it's only 6 minutes apart. And then Jpappy throws in a But like he's starting to type something, to his teammate?

[Lady G]

i dont think u understand how it works cause u never asked him a question, but good try.


Although I have to agree a question should be asked if you want a response but Mad...I beg to differ, last time you were on the scumbag side remember, you, me, RB , ogre?????

Ok, it wasn't in the "form" of a question like why would you say that....But it was a question non the less. Anyhow it wasn't a I vote for you why didn't you ask me why...although I personally would ask if someone voted for me and had no reason.

[Lady G]

Well that's interesting. JL and Jpappy finally show up and it's only 6 minutes apart. And then Jpappy throws in a But like he's starting to type something, to his teammate?

Interesting:naughty:

[Lady G]

Wow, over 100 posts and no role playing. I love it.

Even thou the late game is still on, I am online. I have spent most of the day with my family and watching football.

Since no one has role played. I need to figure out who to vote for. I want to vote this first day.



Since I like the Chiefs, I really so no reason not to vote for ewurm. There is something about Viking fans that raise a red flag.

I vote to lynch ewurm

I will be able to play at work tomorrow, I am back home.

Yes, we all decided not to role play until after day 1 just to mess w/ you John, and see how you would decide a vote..hummm because of football teams, good choice I like the Rams (since before StL) what's that say about me...am I next???:lipssealedsmilie:

[Coler]

I also don't understand why Coler would retract his vote after that response. It seems like he had him right where he wanted him. Do they think they pushed it to far? Coler removing his vote supposed to make us feel better about Ogres innocence or lack of?


Ogre is still my suspect for now and therefore might as well have my vote I vote to lynch Ogre

I just didn't want that to be clouded by Ogre and I having a minor tiff outside of the parameters of the game hence I voted/retracted.

I'd like to see some lists of at least top three suspects today - this will really help when people get turned; makes it easier to track changes etc. I think pro-town players would accept that it will help us all to do this.

@ice - Ogre's innocence or lack thereof ? I can give you no comfort there. Only the zombie czar and his brain-lunch-buffet-cum-lumbering sidekick know who is innocent and who is not.

[Rbishop]

to lynch.....

mad (1) by bkw 74

jl66 (2) by ogre 86 ewurm 116

jpap (1) by sway 84

lady (1) by DC 85

ewurm (1) by jl66 110

charlie (1) by ice 106

ogre (1) by coler 121

8 of 15 have voted....

No votes from jpap, charlie, ggf, jpap, kotd, Mad, Lady


Night fall at 8 PM EST, tonight, 09/24

[charlie_stubbs]

Interesting day. I hoped my "Darn, innocent again" post would have generated more discussion. Strange i posted it in post#5 but it isn't mentioned until post#44 (by Ice) and in post #108 (by Lady G). These are the only two that comment on it. Hmmmmmmm....interesting.
My best suspects at this point are:
Ogre- Ogre am i mistaken or did you suggest in post #41 that we kill Coler in case he's a Zombie??? And then go on to suggest we kill him to keep him out of the Zombies hands??? Doesn't sound very pro town to me, my slowly rotting friend.
Ice- your voting on me because you think i used reverse psychology in my "Darn, innocent again post"??? What is it with you and reverse psychology??? Didn't you think noone would suspect RB last game because it seemed too obvious??? And who did I investigate first??? I hoped the Zombies would try to build a case for lynching with this post therefore showing their hands (and maybe they did, my worm ridden friend). At the very least it keeps me suspicious, so i don't think i'd make a very good turn. I intend to start each day I'm still alive by posting "Darn, innocent again".

[charlie_stubbs]

Two zombies are eating a clown. One says to the other, "This taste funny to you???"

[charlie_stubbs]

What do zombie cows eat???? Graaaaiiiiinnnnsssss
What form of transport do Zombies like??? Traaaaaiiiinnnssss

[Swayde]

11 hours to go until nightfall and a lot of people haven't submitted their votes yet. That's going to be a lot of deaths if they don't vote =/ Come on guys, you gotta vote for someone and it can't be a no one vote!

[Dangerdoll]

hmmm.... I'm gonna have to say I am on the fence on the display of Coler and Ogre. I am leaning towards Ogre because of how seemingly bad he freaked. It's a bit unsettling. Coler, same reason but the additional discussion of invisible/visible sticks out in my head... not sure why.

Anyone else, I am still not sure about. Naturally, I am suspicious of Lady G, and Ice because of how well each plays and are good at motivating the townie one way or the other.

If I were to vote anyne, I am leaning on Ogre the heaviest but not far ahead of Coler.

[Coler]

hmmm.... I'm gonna have to say I am on the fence on the display of Coler and Ogre. I am leaning towards Ogre because of how seemingly bad he freaked. It's a bit unsettling. Coler, same reason but the additional discussion of invisible/visible sticks out in my head... not sure why.

...

If I were to vote anyne, I am leaning on Ogre the heaviest but not far ahead of Coler.

I think I rattled Ogre's cage and from the reaction came my vote.

I don't think you can pick out a similar reaction from my posts, so to say 'same reason' strikes me as odd.

Similarly the issue of invisible/visible (also strikes me as odd)...I comment on the fact that you're all invisible and I'm not and this sticks in your head ? :huh:

objectively I can't see it DD sorry - based on your reasoning you move up a couple of notches on my zombometer.

[Lady G]

Well, not to much going on yet. I was hoping by the time I was able to get on this morning there would be a little more talk.

Yes Swayde I agree we all need to be getting a vote in, from what has been posted so far it's a little hard for me to say who I lean toward the most..being many haven't posted much more than one or two times.

But from what has been posted/not posted..I'd have to say, well like most the whole Orge/Coler thing has to jump out at you. I do not think they are both evil (at this time), then I think well I don't know how many games they have played together..Coler hasn't been in for a while and maybe they just haven't gotten use to each others posting style. From their exchange, I'd have to lean more toward Orge.

I'm not sure I like the way Bkw came after mad for mad not responding to his vote for him, I personaly would of asked him why he voted me, if my name would of been there...but I believe the way Mad answered him, it was very "Mad" like IMO. So that has me a "little" worried not enough to vote for him at this time.

Then we have KOTD, CS, Ewurm, gup, jpap, JL, DC..none of which have posted much of anything.

Charlie has me slightly concerned with his "I'm innocent" and I'm going to start each day saying that..mainly because he seems to always come down on others who "proclaim" their innocence. Very contradictory to the regular Charlie.

KOTD, JL, DC always seems to start slow only coming out when someone votes or names him.

Ewurm well he seems to be a bit more quite so far this round.

Guppy with her this seems to be very "Guppy" like she never post much, but she did say she wouldn't be here Sunday and did show up, so I'm not to sure on her. Of coarse I'm never to sure about Gup.

Jpap, honestly I just don't remember how he normaly starts the game off.

I would say if I HAD to pick 3 at this time it would have to be,
Ogre
Bkw
Ewurm/or Charlie
This is VERY likely to change b/c I really don't have much of a feel for anyone at this time..they just have "something" that has caught my eye, that's about it. I wish more ppl would post or at least post more when they do post cause honestly I have nothing right now.

[Lady G]

Whew! I'm here, I was watching football and had no idea the game began...All I can think of with this game is the prepearations my friends and I went through while they were living in a farmhouse in college....We had plenty of swords and axes that we knew would come in handy during zombie attacks. I finally get to put our preparation to use...Sweeeeeet....

Guess I'm good to go then, cause well I have an axe between my mattress/boxspring and a sword on the wall over my bed:grinyes:

[Lady G]

Ok, I am already revising my list..yes by the time I am done I will have pretty much named everyone at one time or another, but hey in this game you HAVE to suspect everyone, then eliminate them as you go. Well except I guess in this particular game the list will keep building since we will be loosing some innocents to the zombies!

For the moment I am taking Charlie and Ewurm off my list, I have others I would like to replace them with at this time.

Ok, I want to know why JL and Jpap were not on all day then posted within minutes of each other and didn't post anything else after their post...just checking in and in JL's case voting Ewurm because he likes the vikings, since well we threw his whole day one game plan off by not role playing.

Yes there are many others who haven't posted much of anything but for you two, to "pop" up like you did and then disappear really bothers me.

[DeputyChiefJR]

Guess I'm good to go then, cause well I have an axe between my mattress/boxspring and a sword on the wall over my bed:grinyes:

Note to self: Getting freaky in Lady G's room could be hazardaous to your health.

[IceH2O]

Quick home for lunch post. I overslept this morning, **** alarm clock, so I didn't really get to look this morning.

Charlie, this whole game is based on reverse psych. The evils try to make us think they are innocent.
I'm still not convinced that your post wasn't just that. Why would it be a trap? Its the one thing that would get peoples attention. Its a pretty anti town trap if you ask me. I will admit I was surprised that no one else wanted to discuss it. Maybe you're plan worked, most of us have become so desensitized to a post like that, that we just overlook them now. Or people are lazy posters that just follow certain people and are afraid to make waves.

The Ogre/Coler exchange still bothers me. I would probably vote Ogre over Coler at this time. But until I get a better response/explanation from Charlie I'm going to sit on him.

I'm 95% sure I'll be home before nightfall to change my vote if any evidence presents itself.

[Lady G]

Note to self: Getting freaky in Lady G's room could be hazardaous to your health.

;)

[Lady G]

Well, I have to run for a while..I'll be back after a while! Hope more have posted some thought by the time I get back on.

[Coler]

OK here's the deal folks - I see night is in 8 hours time or so and I won't be back on. My vote stays with Ogre (I feel unfortunately that the timezone difference is not helping but that's unavoidable at this early stage).

My suspects in order :

Ogre (voted for)
DD

I'm naming a third because I think we all should, with zombie turns about to be visited upon us, so that the survivor townies have something to measure as regards past behaviour. My third suspect is Lady G - weaker than the other two, which are also pretty weak.

[johnlarson66]

My ewurm vote has generated a pay-back vote.

hmmm.....

Seems zombish to me.

Either way, it is just day one.

[johnlarson66]

Ok, I am already revising my list..yes by the time I am done I will have pretty much named everyone at one time or another, but hey in this game you HAVE to suspect everyone, then eliminate them as you go. Well except I guess in this particular game the list will keep building since we will be loosing some innocents to the zombies!

For the moment I am taking Charlie and Ewurm off my list, I have others I would like to replace them with at this time.

Ok, I want to know why JL and Jpap were not on all day then posted within minutes of each other and didn't post anything else after their post...just checking in and in JL's case voting Ewurm because he likes the vikings, since well we threw his whole day one game plan off by not role playing.

Yes there are many others who haven't posted much of anything but for you two, to "pop" up like you did and then disappear really bothers me.


Note to self: Getting freaky in Lady G's room could be hazardaous to your health.

Lady G and DeputyChiefJR posted within minutes of each other (three to be exact)!

[johnlarson66]

My top three:

ewurm - for being a Vikings fan, living that close to Canada
Lady G - for bouncing all over the place with her posts
DeputyChiefJR - for posting 3 minutes after leaving Lady G's bedroom

It is day one.

I think I have made my thoughts about day one before. I have used the word random before and have caught lots of slack. This is a day of learning.

I have voted, was it random, no. For whatever reason, no one has role played yet. I voted ewurm, mostly because I think he has a sense of humor and has gotten a good grasp on the game. I am surprised he voted back at me.

At this point, I see no one as jumping out as a zombie and do not think we will. ewurm is as good as a target as anyone else. We are all pretty much suspects at this time. Someone has to go. Whoever it is, I hope we learn from it.

[Madcrawdad]

Alright folks, I've taken a close look at Lady G, and I've found some interesting things.

Point 1
Some may recall that yesterday, BKW and I were exchanging posts. BKW voted for me claiming that he wanted some questions answered, but didn't ask any questions. As he didn't ask any questions, I didn't bother to respond...later he went on to say that I was scummy for not responding to his vote, I claimed he was scummy for voting without a real reason. Whatever.

The interesting thing to me, is how Lady G inserted herself into the exchange. Now keep in mind that anyone is free to jump into a conversation, and I always welcome discussion, so jumping in was not a problem. What interested me most was why she jumped in, and what she was saying. So here we go:

By this time BKW had voted for me to have questions answered, but asked no question. When he finally asked a question, I responded. He said I should have responded to the vote (without the question), I said it didn't make sense to respond when there was no question to respond to....Whatever.

Here's where Lady G jumps in.....Looks like she agrees with me, a question should have been asked if BKW wanted a response. She then goes on to dispute something else I said about being scum the last time BKW and I played together.
Although I have to agree a question should be asked if you want a response but Mad...I beg to differ, last time you were on the scumbag side remember, you, me, RB , ogre?????

I explain that she misunderstood my post...

Last time I played w/ BKW was the Bloody Coup game...he was scum, I wasn't.

Here she understands that she misunderstood my earlier post. Goes on to apparently agree with me in the discussion that BKW had earlier...If you want an answer, ask a question.
Ahhh I see what you were saying now, hmm see how well that worked..I asked a question and he answered it!

Now BKW calls her on her response, and claims she never really asked a question.
i dont think u understand how it works cause u never asked him a question, but good try.

Lady G responds to BKW saying 'yeah, I technically didn't ask a question, and it is weird that Madcrawdad didn't respond to the vote you cast for no reason..' Huh?
Ok, it wasn't in the "form" of a question like why would you say that....But it was a question non the less. Anyhow it wasn't a I vote for you why didn't you ask me why...although I personally would ask if someone voted for me and had no reason.

Whose side is Lady G really on in this discussion between myself and BKW? Whose side is not the real question, but why does she seem to be standing in the middle and flicking bits of scum in both directions?

By this time our discussion had ended, and BKW even posted a little smiley face...maybe as if to say 'all is well between us'? But Lady G seems to be blowing on embers and trying to get something started. Why?

Point 2
Here's the same quote I used earlier, but I'm reposting it to make my second point.

Here she says that she would personally ask if someone voted for her for no reason. What if someone voted for you and gave a bogus reason, Lady G? Would you be interested?
Ok, it wasn't in the "form" of a question like why would you say that....But it was a question non the less. Anyhow it wasn't a I vote for you why didn't you ask me why...although I personally would ask if someone voted for me and had no reason.

Here DC casts a vote for Lady G because she's fooled him in past games. Clearly an anti-town move on DC's part. Past games have absolutely no bearing on this game...

I vote to lynch Lady G.Because she's fooled me far too long

Here's Lady G's response to DC's vote for her...not a very strong response.

OMG...silly:



Now in this quote she goes after Ogre for basically saying that he'd consider lynching Coler, because Coler would be dangerous to the town as a zombie. Keep in mind that DC said basically the same thing about Lady G (and even voted for her) that Ogre did about Coler. So why's she just picking out Ogre and floating his name out there as possible scum? DC never makes it onto her list of suspicious players, but now Ogre's her top candidate. Somethings just not right.

I'm not saying that Ogre shouldn't be on her list, mind you, I'm saying that based on her reasoning, DC should be there also.

Ogre...did you really mean that?? I believe Coler is a good player and would much rather keep him around as Lynch em off "just in case" if we did that with everyone who could be a threat, because they may/may not be turned we'd loose half the town. I really do not like when ppl say "well, we might as well kill so/so off because if/when they are changed they would be bad to have against us".


IMO, Lady G is the best candidate for scum that I've seen all day...

I vote to lynch Lady G

[Lady G]

Lady G and DeputyChiefJR posted within minutes of each other (three to be exact)!
Ahhh, yes we did...but it wasn't our first and only post of the game at that point, had it been I could see it being pointed out.


Alright folks, I've taken a close look at Lady G, and I've found some interesting things.
Yes you should take a close look at EVERYONE in this game Mad.Point 1

Some may recall that yesterday, BKW and I were exchanging posts. BKW voted for me claiming that he wanted some questions answered, but didn't ask any questions. As he didn't ask any questions, I didn't bother to respond...later he went on to say that I was scummy for not responding to his vote, I claimed he was scummy for voting without a real reason. Whatever.

The interesting thing to me, is how Lady G inserted herself into the exchange. Now keep in mind that anyone is free to jump into a conversation, and I always welcome discussion, so jumping in was not a problem. What interested me most was why she jumped in, and what she was saying. So here we go:
I didn't really "insert" myself into your exchange, I made mention that I asked a question and you replied...yes it was intended toward Bkw's post of you not responding to him, but I wasn't really inserting my self anywhere.

By this time BKW had voted for me to have questions answered, but asked no question. When he finally asked a question, I responded. He said I should have responded to the vote (without the question), I said it didn't make sense to respond when there was no question to respond to....Whatever.

Here's where Lady G jumps in.....Looks like she agrees with me, a question should have been asked if BKW wanted a response. She then goes on to dispute something else I said about being scum the last time BKW and I played together.


I explain that she misunderstood my post...


Here she understands that she misunderstood my earlier post. Goes on to apparently agree with me in the discussion that BKW had earlier...If you want an answer, ask a question.

Now BKW calls her on her response, and claims she never really asked a question.

Lady G responds to BKW saying 'yeah, I technically didn't ask a question, and it is weird that Madcrawdad didn't respond to the vote you cast for no reason..' Huh?
No I didn't say I technically didn't ask a question, you need to re read that one Mad I said it wasn't really in the form of a question "why did you say that" kind of a question but it was a question non the less and you answered it, it even had ? at the end. Please don't twist my meaning to try and make it fit your off base comment.

Whose side is Lady G really on in this discussion between myself and BKW? Whose side is not the real question, but why does she seem to be standing in the middle and flicking bits of scum in both directions?
I wasn't standing in the middle, I made a statement bkw responded to my statement I wouldn't really call that "standing in the middle" of anything. And at this point in time I am on my side, but if you looked at my posts you should know who came out on top of that whole scenario..let's see I had BKW on my list and not you so you tell me, how was that misread?

By this time our discussion had ended, and BKW even posted a little smiley face...maybe as if to say 'all is well between us'? But Lady G seems to be blowing on embers and trying to get something started. Why?

Point 2
Here's the same quote I used earlier, but I'm reposting it to make my second point.

Here she says that she would personally ask if someone voted for her for no reason. What if someone voted for you and gave a bogus reason, Lady G? Would you be interested?
I did not respond to DC because well even though it was a stupid reason, which I may of used later..at this time I saw no reason to bring attention upon it...it he had just said I vote Lady G I would of asked "may I ask why"

Here DC casts a vote for Lady G because she's fooled him in past games. Clearly an anti-town move on DC's part. Past games have absolutely no bearing on this game...
Agreed but so many do this, "Oh Mad isn't posting like normal he must be evil" not that I really think that at this point just an example.

Here's Lady G's response to DC's vote for her...not a very strong response.
It wasn't a very strong reason didn't deserve a strong response I figured others would realize it was weak to say the least, why bother?

Now in this quote she goes after Ogre for basically saying that he'd consider lynching Coler, because Coler would be dangerous to the town as a zombie. Keep in mind that DC said basically the same thing about Lady G (and even voted for her) that Ogre did about Coler. So why's she just picking out Ogre and floating his name out there as possible scum? DC never makes it onto her list of suspicious players, but now Ogre's her top candidate. Somethings just not right.
Yes and there was more to it then just he said that, and yes I believe that is a good reason to add him to my "list". DC hasn't made it there yet, simply because he has done nothing but make a nonsense vote at this time, which like I said I do not believe others would take in consideration to vote me...it's not really a good argument IMO.
I'm not saying that Ogre shouldn't be on her list, mind you, I'm saying that based on her reasoning, DC should be there also.

Ummm not really Mad, as I stated before there is alot more on Ogre than DC at this point in time. Are you mad because I didn't get all defencive at DC for that??? I saw no reason it wasn't worth the time and effort it would take.

IMO, Lady G is the best candidate for scum that I've seen all day...

I vote to lynch Lady G
If you really think I am the best candidate from what you have posted, so be it vote me, by all means you should vote who you think is evil. IMO it's pretty weak.

[Lady G]

My top three:

ewurm - for being a Vikings fan, living that close to Canada
Lady G - for bouncing all over the place with her posts
DeputyChiefJR - for posting 3 minutes after leaving Lady G's bedroom

It is day one.

I think I have made my thoughts about day one before. I have used the word random before and have caught lots of slack. This is a day of learning.

I have voted, was it random, no. For whatever reason, no one has role played yet. I voted ewurm, mostly because I think he has a sense of humor and has gotten a good grasp on the game. I am surprised he voted back at me.

At this point, I see no one as jumping out as a zombie and do not think we will. ewurm is as good as a target as anyone else. We are all pretty much suspects at this time. Someone has to go. Whoever it is, I hope we learn from it.

I bounce all over the place...true enough but isn't that better than picking one person putting blinders on and not looking anywhere else?:confused:

[Swayde]

No votes yet from Charlie, DD, Guppy, Jpap and KoTD. We only have 7 hours until nightfall. It's going to hurt us badly to lose that many people early on this game. We really cannot afford to lose townies for lack of voting/participation. This game is going to be very difficult for us to win, especially if we start off down several townies because clearly they can't all be zombies.

I seriously don't know who to vote for. So many people are looking kinda suspicious, but nothing that just screams evil out to me. All the power roles in the game really do make it confusing and then trying to pick 2 people out of 15 is hard too. I'd think the zombies would be trying not to draw attention to themselves and hope to float a few days with minimal interaction while more people get converted and townies lynch each other or die to lack of voting.

Anyhow, I am keeping my vote on Jpappy for now. He was the last person to post and I don't like that little but he had hanging on at the end of his post, which most likely would have gone totally unnoticed had he not tried to brush it off with a follow-up post.

[Dangerdoll]

I was trying to wait to see if there were going tobe anymore interesting and/or suspicious clues that we can be more sure about before going and finalizing my vote, I was in no way planning on not putting a vote in. After all, there is still 7 hours (about) to the nite. Why so pushy for the votes, sway?

If it will make you feel any better, I will enter my top suspect as listed above.

I vote to lynch Ogre

[Lady G]

Well, I too think votes need to be out there, so for now I am going to vote to lynch JL


My ewurm vote has generated a pay-back vote.

hmmm.....

Seems zombish to me.

Either way, it is just day one.
I hate this kind of statement, they way this game is set up I believe day 1 and day 2 may be the most important day of voting for the townies...we risk to loose alot for voting "just because it's day one it doesn't matter"


Lady G and DeputyChiefJR posted within minutes of each other (three to be exact)!
Being cynical, yes I made mention as did Swayde of him and Jpap posting within minutes of each other, but failing to acknowledge it was mentioned b/c they hadn't posted at all and was their only post's at the time.


My top three:

ewurm - for being a Vikings fan, living that close to Canada
Lady G - for bouncing all over the place with her posts
DeputyChiefJR - for posting 3 minutes after leaving Lady G's bedroom

It is day one.

I think I have made my thoughts about day one before. I have used the word random before and have caught lots of slack. This is a day of learning.

I have voted, was it random, no. For whatever reason, no one has role played yet. I voted ewurm, mostly because I think he has a sense of humor and has gotten a good grasp on the game. I am surprised he voted back at me.

At this point, I see no one as jumping out as a zombie and do not think we will. ewurm is as good as a target as anyone else. We are all pretty much suspects at this time. Someone has to go. Whoever it is, I hope we learn from it.

For adding me b/c I "jump" all over the place, which yes I do...but like I said MUCH better than putting on blinders and only looking at one person.

[Lady G]

Before I go, I just want it to be know I may/may not change my vote...I just want to state this so when/if I do, it won't be that I am "jumping" around it will be b/c someone else seems better to me at that point.

[Swayde]

I was trying to wait to see if there were going tobe anymore interesting and/or suspicious clues that we can be more sure about before going and finalizing my vote, I was in no way planning on not putting a vote in. After all, there is still 7 hours (about) to the nite. Why so pushy for the votes, sway?

If it will make you feel any better, I will enter my top suspect as listed above.

I vote to lynch Ogre


Because last game we lost 3 townies right off the bat because they did not vote on day one and I would hate to see that happen again. Votes can be changed, but you HAVE to have a vote in on someone so it's important to get at least something out there.

Reading through the rules it seems like this is going to be very hard for us to win and we're definitely going to need all of the townies working together and contributing. Losing several on day 1, especially avoidable ones, is just plain bad. We will absolutely lose 1 today because either the zombies will turn them, or we get insanely lucky and lynch the person the zombies try to change... most likely we lose 2 since odds are that we'll lynch a townie and the zombies will turn a townie...no reason to lose more than that. Just trying to make sure people realize the danger in not voting and how badly it will affect us.

[OgreMkV]

ewurm - for being a Vikings fan, living that close to Canada
Lady G - for bouncing all over the place with her posts
DeputyChiefJR - for posting 3 minutes after leaving Lady G's bedroom

At this point, I see no one as jumping out as a zombie and do not think we will. ewurm is as good as a target as anyone else. We are all pretty much suspects at this time. Someone has to go. Whoever it is, I hope we learn from it.

Wow, I think everyone else noticed at least a few zombie like things. I agree with you, but I think that the statement in blue is... odd. I didn't say wrong, just odd.


Alright folks, I've taken a close look at Lady G, and I've found some interesting things.

Now in this quote she goes after Ogre for basically saying that he'd consider lynching Coler, because Coler would be dangerous to the town as a zombie. Keep in mind that DC said basically the same thing about Lady G (and even voted for her) that Ogre did about Coler. So why's she just picking out Ogre and floating his name out there as possible scum? DC never makes it onto her list of suspicious players, but now Ogre's her top candidate. Somethings just not right.

I'm not saying that Ogre shouldn't be on her list, mind you, I'm saying that based on her reasoning, DC should be there also.

IMO, Lady G is the best candidate for scum that I've seen all day...


I like this for not only LadyG, but also DC. Notice I never voted for Coler, I wasn't planning to. I know I'd never get a prayer of getting the votes for that one, but also, he is a good player with lots of ideas... and if he's zombie, then we'll figure it out soon enough.

DC however, goes ahead and votes that with his gut in that direction.

So my top four candidates are
JL
LadyG
DC
DD - I think that she's kind of riding coattails again... something like she has been doing in the past as a bad guy.

for what it's worth.

I'd also like to point out something. I'm still not sure if this is good or bad for the town. Everyone is on their own track. I think only myself and JL have more than 1 vote. So everyone is thinking on their own and coming up with their own reasons... that's a good thing.

However, with the voting like this, the zombies can pretty much take out who they want with only one vote change (maybe two vote changes). That's bad.

If I am lynched, then (for the record) I do not think that Coler is a zombie at this point. I also like mad, sway, and ice as innocents.

BTW: This is valid for today only... stupid zombies.

[OgreMkV]

Guys, just so you know we'll lose at the end of the day (after the lynch) on day three if we do not hit a zombie before then. We basically have 3 chances to hit one.

Good
Bad
13
2
-2 (lynch & zombie turn)

+1 turn 1 11
3
-2 (lynch and zombie turn)

+1 turn 2 9
4
-1 (lynch)


turn 3 8 4 half the town is zombie, we lose.

[OgreMkV]

stupid excel

[Lady G]

Wow, I think everyone else noticed at least a few zombie like things. I agree with you, but I think that the statement in blue is... odd. I didn't say wrong, just odd.



I like this for not only LadyG, but also DC. Notice I never voted for Coler, I wasn't planning to. I know I'd never get a prayer of getting the votes for that one, but also, he is a good player with lots of ideas... and if he's zombie, then we'll figure it out soon enough.

DC however, goes ahead and votes that with his gut in that direction.
Ogre could you please elaborate a little here, I'm not sure what you are trying to say, are you saying that DC and myself look zombieish or just me b/c he voted with his "gut", which I would like to point out is NOT what he did he simply placed a vote on me b/c in the past I have played "bad" well apparently.
So my top four candidates are
JL
LadyG
DC
DD - I think that she's kind of riding coattails again... something like she has been doing in the past as a bad guy.

for what it's worth.

I'd also like to point out something. I'm still not sure if this is good or bad for the town. Everyone is on their own track. I think only myself and JL have more than 1 vote. So everyone is thinking on their own and coming up with their own reasons... that's a good thing.

However, with the voting like this, the zombies can pretty much take out who they want with only one vote change (maybe two vote changes). That's bad.

If I am lynched, then (for the record) I do not think that Coler is a zombie at this point. I also like mad, sway, and ice as innocents.

BTW: This is valid for today only... stupid zombies.



I would like to add I do agree with you on the part about the it's good/bad the way ppl are voting.

[Lady G]

Sorry about the above post...my comment was in red also, I forgot it would write red when I post since his was in red.

[Lady G]

I am going to try and revise who has voted who:

Ewrum- Coler, Jpap, JL

Coler-JL, Ogre

Swayde-Coler, Jpap

LG-Charlie, JL

Bkw- Mad

DC- LG

Ogre-JL

Ice- Charlie

JL-Ewurm

Mad- LG

DD-Ogre

So then the votes are:

JL-3
LG-2
Mad-1
Ogre-2
Jpap-2
Ewurm-1

I believe this is up to date.

[Madcrawdad]

I am going to try and revise who has voted who:

Ewrum- Coler, Jpap, JL

Coler-JL, Ogre

Swayde-Coler, Jpap

LG-Charlie, JL

Bkw- Mad

DC- LG

Ogre-JL

Ice- Charlie

JL-Ewurm

Mad- LG

DD-Ogre

So then the votes are:

JL-3
LG-2
Mad-1
Ogre-2
Jpap-1
Ewurm-1
Charlie-1

I believe this is up to date.
Based on your 1st list above, I think your second list is a little off....

JPap only appears to have 1
Charlie also has 1

I made changes in blue above...

[Lady G]

Thank you Mad! I had Ewurm next to JL on my notes, I ran them together I think when looking back:thumbsup:

[DeputyChiefJR]

I am going to try and revise who has voted who:

Ewrum- Coler, Jpap, JL

Coler-JL, Ogre

Swayde-Coler, Jpap

LG-Charlie, JL, DC

Bkw- Mad

DC- LG

Ogre-JL

Ice- Charlie

JL-Ewurm

Mad- LG

DD-Ogre

So then the votes are:

JL-3
LG-2
Mad-1
Ogre-2
Jpap-2
Ewurm-1

I believe this is up to date.

Missed one vote

[IceH2O]

After looking at posts and reasonings I'm kind of on the fence here.

My suspects are in no order

Ogre - his meltdown, though I doubt he would freak so early on Day 1 it bears watching. He might have been found out but when no one else jumped the train he calmed down.

LG- as pointed out by Mad, hypocrisy in her posts. Baiting on disagreements.

JL- the nonchalant attitude about the lynchings of the 1st day. The no real evidence, I see a lot of possible evidence, and lack of discussion on any of it.

Charlie- the "trap", knowing that mostly innocents would be most likely to point it out why was he trying to trap anyone. Luckily most have been desensitized to such posts. I think he was trying to instill a fear of voting for him. He is a veteran and knows or thinks most of us would take that as a joke and just blow it off and accept he is an innocent.

DC- voting just to vote and then using because she has fooled me in the past is something I see as trying to get rid of a good player.


The lack of posting is really hurting the town as we have nothing to go on. I don't want my 1st nightfall vote to be based solely on a gut feeling.


But for now it is that and because of the lackadaisical attitude of John Larson and not even trying to comment on anything going on I vote to lynch JL

Give some good insight or ideas and this could very well change.

[Lady G]

Now BKW calls her on her response, and claims she never really asked a question.

Lady G responds to BKW saying 'yeah, I technically didn't ask a question, and it is weird that Madcrawdad didn't respond to the vote you cast for no reason..' Huh?

[COLOR="blue"]Whose side is Lady G really on in this discussion between myself and BKW? Whose side is not the real question, but why does she seem to be standing in the middle and flicking bits of scum in both directions?

Ok, I am just bringing this up again because I realized something I needed to answer to on here that I did not before...Anyway I didn't say it was "weird" that you didn't respond, I didn't even insinuate that...what I said was I PERONALLY would of asked...and if you look at my earlier post where I made mention of this exchange between you and BKW you would also see, I did NOT find it strange for YOU not to respond. Ok anyway I am done with this post now, unless there is something else you want to add or ask me about.


Missed one vote

Yes DC, if you look up one post you will see that Mad had already mentioned that and corrected it for me in his post...are you skimming so quickly that you don't even see the post right above yours??? The vote was for Charlie by Ice..if anyone hasn't seen Mad's correction:)

[ewurm]

I am a little suspicious of Ogre but I am keeping my vote on JL. I have to go to work, I'll be back at 10PM C to discuss tonights findings.

[Swayde]

Ok, I am just bringing this up again because I realized something I needed to answer to on here that I did not before...Anyway I didn't say it was "weird" that you didn't respond, I didn't even insinuate that...what I said was I PERONALLY would of asked...and if you look at my earlier post where I made mention of this exchange between you and BKW you would also see, I did NOT find it strange for YOU not to respond. Ok anyway I am done with this post now, unless there is something else you want to add or ask me about.



Yes DC, if you look up one post you will see that Mad had already mentioned that and corrected it for me in his post...are you skimming so quickly that you don't even see the post right above yours??? The vote was for Charlie by Ice..if anyone hasn't seen Mad's correction:)


Actually, oddly, he added a vote in blue to yours...he added you voting for him? Weird. I donno what happend. I think he thought you missed his vote for you, but you have that there and if you did vote for DC, I missed it too lol.

[DeputyChiefJR]

Ok, I am just bringing this up again because I realized something I needed to answer to on here that I did not before...Anyway I didn't say it was "weird" that you didn't respond, I didn't even insinuate that...what I said was I PERONALLY would of asked...and if you look at my earlier post where I made mention of this exchange between you and BKW you would also see, I did NOT find it strange for YOU not to respond. Ok anyway I am done with this post now, unless there is something else you want to add or ask me about.



Yes DC, if you look up one post you will see that Mad had already mentioned that and corrected it for me in his post...are you skimming so quickly that you don't even see the post right above yours??? The vote was for Charlie by Ice..if anyone hasn't seen Mad's correction:)

Actually with both corrections it would mean you missed 2 votes, since both of our corrections are different.

[Lady G]

After looking at posts and reasonings I'm kind of on the fence here.

My suspects are in no order

Ogre - his meltdown, though I doubt he would freak so early on Day 1 it bears watching. He might have been found out but when no one else jumped the train he calmed down.

LG- as pointed out by Mad, hypocrisy in her posts. Baiting on disagreements.

JL- the nonchalant attitude about the lynchings of the 1st day. The no real evidence, I see a lot of possible evidence, and lack of discussion on any of it.

Charlie- the "trap", knowing that mostly innocents would be most likely to point it out why was he trying to trap anyone. Luckily most have been desensitized to such posts. I think he was trying to instill a fear of voting for him. He is a veteran and knows or thinks most of us would take that as a joke and just blow it off and accept he is an innocent.

DC- voting just to vote and then using because she has fooled me in the past is something I see as trying to get rid of a good player.


The lack of posting is really hurting the town as we have nothing to go on. I don't want my 1st nightfall vote to be based solely on a gut feeling.


But for now it is that and because of the lackadaisical attitude of John Larson and not even trying to comment on anything going on I vote to lynch JL

Give some good insight or ideas and this could very well change.

Nice post btw ice, I was getting ready to add a post myself of my "general" feel on others. But I wanted to make note of what you said about me, anyway if I came across as being "hypocritical" I'm sorry. I believe what I said was taken out of text somewhat, if someone laid their vote on me and said NO REASON what so ever I would most certainly ask them "what their reasoning is", with DC....he did leave a reason, albeit a VERY weak, unhelpful reason but there was one none the less and really I didn't think much of it myself simpley b/c we have to many good players here that I didn't think would really look to much into HIS vote. Anyway that is all I meant by I would personally say something if someone voted me. Also I never said it was "weird" that Mad didn't say anything...Mad said that (well that I said it), I did not say "weird" or "odd" that he didn't and I didn't mean for it to come across that way.

[Lady G]

Missed one vote


Actually with both corrections it would mean you missed 2 votes, since both of our corrections are different.

Ummm DC I believe YOUR correction was wrong...if you added yourself to me then you were wrong I never voted you and you should not be on my voting record, so you made that mistake. Unless you corrected something I missed??? Mind telling me what it was, I know I didn't have your name w/ my votes.

[Swayde]

Actually with both corrections it would mean you missed 2 votes, since both of our corrections are different.


Your correction is wrong though, the last person lady g voted for is john larson and I can't find anywhere that she voted for you.

[Lady G]

Actually, oddly, he added a vote in blue to yours...he added you voting for him? Weird. I donno what happend. I think he thought you missed his vote for you, but you have that there and if you did vote for DC, I missed it too lol.

Yes, Swayde I believe you are right...he must of thought I missed his vote for me. Otherwise I have no idea why he would of done that???

[DeputyChiefJR]

LG, I put your name out there to see how you'd react. I found it odd that since then you've been kind of bouncing around making some contradictory posts, as Ice has mentioned. You've also been defensive in a stand-offish way. I dunno if you're just scouting the field but you make it hard to tell who you're with or against. Due to this fact and your ability to play a convincing good guy while being a villain, I now feel comfortable leaving my vote on you.

[Swayde]

Can I panic yet that we still don't have votes in from Charlie, Guppy, KoTD and Jpap????? Even if 2 of them are zombies and we'd win by default, it would be cheesy and I don't want to win that way!

I can't see when invis people were last active, but I do see that Jpappy posted in the Jobs thread in General around noon today so he was on the forums and just didn't post in this thread.

[DeputyChiefJR]

Actually, oddly, he added a vote in blue to yours...he added you voting for him? Weird. I donno what happend. I think he thought you missed his vote for you, but you have that there and if you did vote for DC, I missed it too lol.

Oh I got confused by her format, I'm used to the one where it shows who has votes on them...Sorry, Back to our regularly scheduled program....

[johnlarson66]

All Aboard!

The lynch johnlarson66 train is ready to leave the station.

I am trying to figure out where the other evidence of people looking like zombies is. So far no one has stuck out much.

The best thing to vote on is my saying there is nothing. Well, that and me having an attitude about day one voting. I have not seen anything really stand out, besides Ogre crazy idea that we should lynch Coler because he is Coler. Besides that it is a bunch of Day One postings. Read the past games to see my thoughts on Day One. Also look at the track records.

If it is my turn to go Day One, then it is. Someone has to go, so I am just as a good as a canidate as anyone else.

Think about this. If on day one I was posting a lot, accusing people of being zombies, reading "in between the lines" on every post and role playing, what would the town say?

They would say "johnlarson66 is playing differently, lets lynch him!"

So if me playing the way I play, gets me lynched on day one, then I will be the guy that gets lynched day one. I am not going to change how I play and I am not going to sweat maybe getting lynched.

This game is not about surviving or not. It is about good vs evil. If I am killed, but the side I am on wins, then I still win. While I like to play. I like to watch others play. It will be hard just to watch, but there will be another game.

[IceH2O]

Ok, I am just bringing this up again because I realized something I needed to answer to on here that I did not before...Anyway I didn't say it was "weird" that you didn't respond, I didn't even insinuate that...what I said was I PERONALLY would of asked...and if you look at my earlier post where I made mention of this exchange between you and BKW you would also see, I did NOT find it strange for YOU not to respond. Ok anyway I am done with this post now, unless there is something else you want to add or ask me about.

Wow defensive huh? Pointing out something and protecting yourself before even being called on it? Didn't I get lynched for that? Wasn't I evil that game?




Nice post btw ice, I was getting ready to add a post myself of my "general" feel on others. But I wanted to make note of what you said about me, anyway if I came across as being "hypocritical" I'm sorry. I believe what I said was taken out of text somewhat, if someone laid their vote on me and said NO REASON what so ever I would most certainly ask them "what their reasoning is", with DC....he did leave a reason, albeit a VERY weak, unhelpful reason but there was one none the less and really I didn't think much of it myself simpley b/c we have to many good players here that I didn't think would really look to much into HIS vote. Anyway that is all I meant by I would personally say something if someone voted me. Also I never said it was "weird" that Mad didn't say anything...Mad said that (well that I said it), I did not say "weird" or "odd" that he didn't and I didn't mean for it to come across that way.

Then again more defense running, you'd think she'd drop it by now instead of bringing it up over and over.

Prove your innocent and bring us suspects and quit protecting yourself. There aren't that many votes on you to be worried about.

[OgreMkV]

I'm probably going to switch my vote to charlie... he is (not) playing so uncharacteristically. Usually he's made two or three accusations and vote switches by now.

Let's make it official I vote to lynch charlie

[IceH2O]

All Aboard!

The lynch johnlarson66 train is ready to leave the station.

I am trying to figure out where the other evidence of people looking like zombies is. So far no one has stuck out much.

The best thing to vote on is my saying there is nothing. Well, that and me having an attitude about day one voting. I have not seen anything really stand out, besides Ogre crazy idea that we should lynch Coler because he is Coler. Besides that it is a bunch of Day One postings. Read the past games to see my thoughts on Day One. Also look at the track records.

If it is my turn to go Day One, then it is. Someone has to go, so I am just as a good as a canidate as anyone else.

Think about this. If on day one I was posting a lot, accusing people of being zombies, reading "in between the lines" on every post and role playing, what would the town say?

They would say "johnlarson66 is playing differently, lets lynch him!"

So if me playing the way I play, gets me lynched on day one, then I will be the guy that gets lynched day one. I am not going to change how I play and I am not going to sweat maybe getting lynched.

This game is not about surviving or not. It is about good vs evil. If I am killed, but the side I am on wins, then I still win. While I like to play. I like to watch others play. It will be hard just to watch, but there will be another game.


So instead of discussing if Ogre or Colers fight might be Coler nailing Ogre or 2 zombies distancing themselves you're just going to write it off?

Instead of discussing Mads thoughts on LG you're just going to ignore it?

Instead of discussing thoughts on Charlies Darn I'm innocent post you're going to sit back and vote for a Vikings fan?


I will admit you do usually sit back on Day 1 but to say theres nothing to really discuss is BS. There are lots to discuss and to not care if you die an innocent is a bad attitude to have. Why bother playing if you're going to think that way?

[Lady G]

Ok, my general thoughts here on everyone.

JL-yes I think he is evil, and I believe will leave my vote on him. His post's and reactions have me concerned and his "who cares it only day one" attitude has me MORE than concerned. Are we playing the same game b/c in the game I'm playing day one is VERY important.

Ogre-His exchange with Coler, made me very wary of him..as someone else mentioned he was being VERY defencive and I believe also when no one else joined in he let it drop..hoping others would too. If I were to change my vote it would most likely be to him.

Bkw-His out there vote on Mad with no reasoning threw me first then his call out on Mad for not posting about it seemed odd to me.

Jpap-Hasn't posted anything at all helpful

Kotd-same as Jpap

Guppy- Hasn't posted anything except for I'm here

DC-until recently nothing really stood out, no he hadn't posted much but that is the way he is, it seems. Yes he voted me out of nowhere but at that point in the game everyone was more Laid back and more "joking" like, no I really did not think much of it. But his most recent post have me a little concerned. Making changes to post to "correct" but correcting incorrectly.(wow that sounds odd when you say it)

These are the ones that stand out the most to me at this point.

[OgreMkV]

Ok, my general thoughts here on everyone.

JL-yes I think he is evil, and I believe will leave my vote on him. His post's and reactions have me concerned and his "who cares it only day one" attitude has me MORE than concerned. Are we playing the same game b/c in the game I'm playing day one is VERY important.

Ogre-His exchange with Coler, made me very wary of him..as someone else mentioned he was being VERY defencive and I believe also when no one else joined in he let it drop..hoping others would too. If I were to change my vote it would most likely be to him.

Bkw-His out there vote on Mad with no reasoning threw me first then his call out on Mad for not posting about it seemed odd to me.

Jpap-Hasn't posted anything at all helpful

Kotd-same as Jpap

Guppy- Hasn't posted anything except for I'm here

DC-until recently nothing really stood out, no he hadn't posted much but that is the way he is, it seems. Yes he voted me out of nowhere but at that point in the game everyone was more Laid back and more "joking" like, no I really did not think much of it. But his most recent post have me a little concerned. Making changes to post to "correct" but correcting incorrectly.(wow that sounds odd when you say it)

These are the ones that stand out the most to me at this point.

No mention of charlie... protecting a fellow undead?

[Lady G]

All Aboard!

The lynch johnlarson66 train is ready to leave the station.

I am trying to figure out where the other evidence of people looking like zombies is. So far no one has stuck out much.

The best thing to vote on is my saying there is nothing. Well, that and me having an attitude about day one voting. I have not seen anything really stand out, besides Ogre crazy idea that we should lynch Coler because he is Coler. Besides that it is a bunch of Day One postings. Read the past games to see my thoughts on Day One. Also look at the track records.

If it is my turn to go Day One, then it is. Someone has to go, so I am just as a good as a canidate as anyone else.

Think about this. If on day one I was posting a lot, accusing people of being zombies, reading "in between the lines" on every post and role playing, what would the town say?

They would say "johnlarson66 is playing differently, lets lynch him!"

So if me playing the way I play, gets me lynched on day one, then I will be the guy that gets lynched day one. I am not going to change how I play and I am not going to sweat maybe getting lynched.

This game is not about surviving or not. It is about good vs evil. If I am killed, but the side I am on wins, then I still win. While I like to play. I like to watch others play. It will be hard just to watch, but there will be another game.
Yes, you do play the same each day one...but this game is quite different, and we need coroperation big time on day one this round, it had been pointed out by many and you would think that you may realize it and help more but instead you just "bow" out so to say.


Wow defensive huh? Pointing out something and protecting yourself before even being called on it? Didn't I get lynched for that? Wasn't I evil that game?

But Ice it WAS mentioned or I wouldn't of commented on it, that right there is the difference. I had commented on answered to what had been said and left that off it was something I felt important to be realized so YES I brought it back up, if wanting to make sure ppl understand what I am saying and don't mis read it makes me bad, then I'm worried what would make me look innocent. Just sitting back and haveing ppl mis read my intent without correcting it???



Then again more defense running, you'd think she'd drop it by now instead of bringing it up over and over.
It's not being defensive answering to something someone has said...now if I would of come back and said I THINK YOUR EVIL SCUM FOR SAYING THAT, that would be defensive. IMO anyway.

Prove your innocent and bring us suspects and quit protecting yourself. There aren't that many votes on you to be worried about.

I have brought suspects and will continue to call out anyone I feel needs it, I know there are not that many votes on me that is not why I answered to the post's I answered because that's what I do, if what they said had been correct and I actually had said "Mad seems odd because he didn't respond" or whatever I would of said nothing.

[Lady G]

No mention of charlie... protecting a fellow undead?

As I said these are the ones that stand out the most to me. There are several I haven't mentioned, not because I do not feel they are 100% innocent or haven't done anything to raise an eyebrow...but at the moment these are the ones I chose to post on, read into it what ever you like.

[jpappy789]

Ok, I am already revising my list..yes by the time I am done I will have pretty much named everyone at one time or another, but hey in this game you HAVE to suspect everyone, then eliminate them as you go. Well except I guess in this particular game the list will keep building since we will be loosing some innocents to the zombies!

For the moment I am taking Charlie and Ewurm off my list, I have others I would like to replace them with at this time.

Ok, I want to know why JL and Jpap were not on all day then posted within minutes of each other and didn't post anything else after their post...just checking in and in JL's case voting Ewurm because he likes the vikings, since well we threw his whole day one game plan off by not role playing.

Yes there are many others who haven't posted much of anything but for you two, to "pop" up like you did and then disappear really bothers me.

Did you read my post? I explained what was going on. I worked 1-9 yesterday and didn't get on the computer until around 10 o'clock last night I believe. I said that I wouldn't be posting anything later that night because I had to finish writing a paper. I can't post during the day because I am in school.

Not that I am defending jl or anything but this is usual of him. He plays consistently "quiet" which makes him hard to read. Right now I could go either way with him.


No votes yet from Charlie, DD, Guppy, Jpap and KoTD. We only have 7 hours until nightfall. It's going to hurt us badly to lose that many people early on this game. We really cannot afford to lose townies for lack of voting/participation. This game is going to be very difficult for us to win, especially if we start off down several townies because clearly they can't all be zombies.

I seriously don't know who to vote for. So many people are looking kinda suspicious, but nothing that just screams evil out to me. All the power roles in the game really do make it confusing and then trying to pick 2 people out of 15 is hard too. I'd think the zombies would be trying not to draw attention to themselves and hope to float a few days with minimal interaction while more people get converted and townies lynch each other or die to lack of voting.

Anyhow, I am keeping my vote on Jpappy for now. He was the last person to post and I don't like that little but he had hanging on at the end of his post, which most likely would have gone totally unnoticed had he not tried to brush it off with a follow-up post.

Whatever. That is a very lame reason to vote imo. What does the "but" have to do with anything? I only mentioned it because I am positive it wouldn't have gone unnoticed with the way people analyze the posts in this game. Then someone would have used it against me. I know the whole "don't get defensive before getting called out" thing is suspicious but it's better than going in and editing the post.


Because last game we lost 3 townies right off the bat because they did not vote on day one and I would hate to see that happen again. Votes can be changed, but you HAVE to have a vote in on someone so it's important to get at least something out there.

Reading through the rules it seems like this is going to be very hard for us to win and we're definitely going to need all of the townies working together and contributing. Losing several on day 1, especially avoidable ones, is just plain bad. We will absolutely lose 1 today because either the zombies will turn them, or we get insanely lucky and lynch the person the zombies try to change... most likely we lose 2 since odds are that we'll lynch a townie and the zombies will turn a townie...no reason to lose more than that. Just trying to make sure people realize the danger in not voting and how badly it will affect us.

Swayde I understand why you want people to vote on night one but why so pushy? Last game was weird. I believe it was one of the only games (if not the only game) where a "no vote" rule was inforced. Trsut me, I am voting tonight.


Can I panic yet that we still don't have votes in from Charlie, Guppy, KoTD and Jpap????? Even if 2 of them are zombies and we'd win by default, it would be cheesy and I don't want to win that way!

I can't see when invis people were last active, but I do see that Jpappy posted in the Jobs thread in General around noon today so he was on the forums and just didn't post in this thread.

Wow swayde. That is impossible as I was actually eating lunch in my school cafeteria at noon today...you are moving on to my suspect list for that.

Most things have already been mentioned.

Coler/Ogre- either both innocent or both zombies in my book. There exchange was interesting but I don't think a zombie would butt heads with a good player that early in the game.

Bkw/Mad/Lady G- their conversations so far have proved interesting as well...my guess is that one of them is a zombie. I am leaning more towards bkw

Chas- has been quiet but in my observations, he is most talkative when bad.

Kotd and guppy-very very quiet but nothing too suspect there. Still not off the hook though...

Ewurm and DC- I have a hard time getting a read on both, well like everyone else I guess...DC's "corrections" were odd, but I can't know for sure if his confusion is legit or not...

Sway- suspicions listed above...

[Lady G]

Can I panic yet that we still don't have votes in from Charlie, Guppy, KoTD and Jpap????? Even if 2 of them are zombies and we'd win by default, it would be cheesy and I don't want to win that way!

I can't see when invis people were last active, but I do see that Jpappy posted in the Jobs thread in General around noon today so he was on the forums and just didn't post in this thread.

Yes, Swayde you can begin to panic now...especially since KOTD and Jpap were 2 that were killed of last time, because they didn't vote. I don't get it..I hope they didn't sign up just to mess us up? It is starting to freak me out a little too.

[Swayde]

Did you read my post? I explained what was going on. I worked 1-9 yesterday and didn't get on the computer until around 10 o'clock last night I believe. I said that I wouldn't be posting anything later that night because I had to finish writing a paper. I can't post during the day because I am in school.

Not that I am defending jl or anything but this is usual of him. He plays consistently "quiet" which makes him hard to read. Right now I could go either way with him.



Whatever. That is a very lame reason to vote imo. What does the "but" have to do with anything? I only mentioned it because I am positive it wouldn't have gone unnoticed with the way people analyze the posts in this game. Then someone would have used it against me. I know the whole "don't get defensive before getting called out" thing is suspicious but it's better than going in and editing the post.



Swayde I understand why you want people to vote on night one but why so pushy? Last game was weird. I believe it was one of the only games (if not the only game) where a "no vote" rule was inforced. Trsut me, I am voting tonight.



Wow swayde. That is impossible as I was actually eating lunch in my school cafeteria at noon today...you are moving on to my suspect list for that.

Most things have already been mentioned.

Coler/Ogre- either both innocent or both zombies in my book. There exchange was interesting but I don't think a zombie would butt heads with a good player that early in the game.

Bkw/Mad/Lady G- their conversations so far have proved interesting as well...my guess is that one of them is a zombie. I am leaning more towards bkw

Chas- has been quiet but in my observations, he is most talkative when bad.

Kotd and guppy-very very quiet but nothing too suspect there. Still not off the hook though...

Ewurm and DC- I have a hard time getting a read on both, well like everyone else I guess...DC's "corrections" were odd, but I can't know for sure if his confusion is legit or not...

Sway- suspicions listed above...


I double checked, you did post in teh jobs forum, but it was AM, not PM. So I retract that accusation because it's wrong. Sorry about that Jpappy.

As far as pushing for votes. I have to wonder about anyone who's NOT concerned about people not voting. I am not pushing for votes on any particular person, if that were the case I'd see a problem with it. All I am asking is that everyone vote so we don't lose any unnecessary people. I'm sure zombies would LOVE to see the town down a few extra people that they didn't even have to try to implicate.

So far that's been you and DD, and you can be sure DD is on my suspect list because of that.

[jpappy789]

Yes, Swayde you can begin to panic now...especially since KOTD and Jpap were 2 that were killed of last time, because they didn't vote. I don't get it..I hope they didn't sign up just to mess us up? It is starting to freak me out a little too.

Lady G, I already promised to swayde that I would vote and I explained what happened last game. It is in the past. And the fact that you would even think that I would sign up only to mess the game up hurts...

I don't have time to post during the day and sometimes I will end up with nights that I have to much homework and weekends when I am working 8 hours a day...

The fact that swayde constantly pushes for my vote and then using false evidence against me is why I am voting for her...

I vote to lynch swayde

There swayde are you happy?

[jpappy789]

Swayde I just saw your response and I believe what you are saying is true...but I am keeping my vote on you because it's the best I got right now.

[Swayde]

Lady G, I already promised to swayde that I would vote and I explained what happened last game. It is in the past. And the fact that you would even think that I would sign up only to mess the game up hurts...

I don't have time to post during the day and sometimes I will end up with nights that I have to much homework and weekends when I am working 8 hours a day...

The fact that swayde constantly pushes for my vote and then using false evidence against me is why I am voting for her...

I vote to lynch swayde

There swayde are you happy?

I am happy that you showed up and voted on someone, especially if your a townie. Now get out there and find some actual zombies. I apologized for my mistake. Whether or not you choose to accept it is up to you.

[Lady G]

Jpap, glad to see you!!!


Did you read my post? I explained what was going on. I worked 1-9 yesterday and didn't get on the computer until around 10 o'clock last night I believe. I said that I wouldn't be posting anything later that night because I had to finish writing a paper. I can't post during the day because I am in school.
Ok I remember you saying you had to write a paper, but I do not remember you saying you wouldn't post anymore. I'll have to look back and re read it. You not being able to post during the day makes since to me.

Not that I am defending jl or anything but this is usual of him. He plays consistently "quiet" which makes him hard to read. Right now I could go either way with him.
Yes I know he does...but this round we really need his input and it was said enough I think he would get the idea.


Whatever. That is a very lame reason to vote imo. What does the "but" have to do with anything? I only mentioned it because I am positive it wouldn't have gone unnoticed with the way people analyze the posts in this game. Then someone would have used it against me. I know the whole "don't get defensive before getting called out" thing is suspicious but it's better than going in and editing the post.

I do agree that the "but" would not of went unnoticed.

Swayde I understand why you want people to vote on night one but why so pushy? Last game was weird. I believe it was one of the only games (if not the only game) where a "no vote" rule was inforced. Trsut me, I am voting tonight.



Wow swayde. That is impossible as I was actually eating lunch in my school cafeteria at noon today...you are moving on to my suspect list for that.

Most things have already been mentioned.

Coler/Ogre- either both innocent or both zombies in my book. There exchange was interesting but I don't think a zombie would butt heads with a good player that early in the game.

Bkw/Mad/Lady G- their conversations so far have proved interesting as well...my guess is that one of them is a zombie. I am leaning more towards bkw

Chas- has been quiet but in my observations, he is most talkative when bad.

Kotd and guppy-very very quiet but nothing too suspect there. Still not off the hook though...

Ewurm and DC- I have a hard time getting a read on both, well like everyone else I guess...DC's "corrections" were odd, but I can't know for sure if his confusion is legit or not...

Sway- suspicions listed above...

I am going to wait and see your post's before I go any further with thoughts on you.

[Dangerdoll]

ok, sorry guys, work has been pretty busy but I am posting when I can.

My further thoughts after watching, I think Lady G is innocent. Why? Well, I've watched her in previous games, I think I have pretty much nailed her when she is evil and she does not goof up in the slightest or make herself so wide spread in the threads. I mean, she does but not like this. She doesn't do defensive runs and the like, not G.

Coler, wow, not sure that your reason for voting me is any better than just my slight suspicions for you, but if that's what you feel is right, I thought you played better than that but ok. It's early in the game I guess... but in all fairness, of course, your suspicion on me is a bit higher. Ogre, I expected the suspicion from but then you and Ogre have the suspicion, I dunno.... smells like you guys came in from a graveyard...

[Lady G]

Lady G, I already promised to swayde that I would vote and I explained what happened last game. It is in the past. And the fact that you would even think that I would sign up only to mess the game up hurts...
I'm sorry, really...I just worry about things to much sometimes, it was just a thought I had and it worried me that's all.:)
I don't have time to post during the day and sometimes I will end up with nights that I have to much homework and weekends when I am working 8 hours a day...

The fact that swayde constantly pushes for my vote and then using false evidence against me is why I am voting for her...

I vote to lynch swayde

There swayde are you happy?

I didn't see your post to swayde before I posted about yes we can worry now. So I do apologize.
Anyway I have to get supper going I will be back before night, unless some unforeseen thing comes up!!

[jpappy789]

I double checked, you did post in teh jobs forum, but it was AM, not PM. So I retract that accusation because it's wrong. Sorry about that Jpappy.

As far as pushing for votes. I have to wonder about anyone who's NOT concerned about people not voting. I am not pushing for votes on any particular person, if that were the case I'd see a problem with it. All I am asking is that everyone vote so we don't lose any unnecessary people. I'm sure zombies would LOVE to see the town down a few extra people that they didn't even have to try to implicate.

So far that's been you and DD, and you can be sure DD is on my suspect list because of that.

I am confused...I read through all of your posts and unless I missed something, I don't recall you ever mentioning DD as a suspect, or even her looking a little suspicious...care to explain? I just want to know what you are thinking...

[jpappy789]

I didn't see your post to swayde before I posted about yes we can worry now. So I do apologize.
Anyway I have to get supper going I will be back before night, unless some unforeseen thing comes up!!

don't woory about lady g...:)

[Madcrawdad]

I have brought suspects and will continue to call out anyone I feel needs it, I know there are not that many votes on me that is not why I answered to the post's I answered because that's what I do, if what they said had been correct and I actually had said "Mad seems odd because he didn't respond" or whatever I would of said nothing.

Thanks for clarifying Lady G....

Here's BKW's post that you respond to ....

i dont think u understand how it works cause u never asked him a question, but good try.

Here's your response to BKW...first part answers his post. Why add the second part at all (in blue), if it's not to imply that something is odd? Seriously, if I say about someone 'I surely wouldn't have done that,' it pretty much means that I'm questioning their judgement. I see no other reason for adding that little tidbit that you would have behaved differently.

Ok, it wasn't in the "form" of a question like why would you say that....But it was a question non the less. Anyhow it wasn't a I vote for you why didn't you ask me why...although I personally would ask if someone voted for me and had no reason.

Lady G, I think you might be squirming a little...

[Swayde]

I am confused...I read through all of your posts and unless I missed something, I don't recall you ever mentioning DD as a suspect, or even her looking a little suspicious...care to explain? I just want to know what you are thinking...


I haven't posted about it before. I didn't see the point in it when I was already voting for you. I have a hard time reading DD in every game. She always comes off as suspicious to me and usually she actually is evil (in the games I've played with her), but last game she was the hunter and I seriosuly thought she was a vampire so I hesitate to say anything unless I have some real solid proof.

I do believe that not being worried about people not voting seems anti-town. Maybe I got a bit carried away with it and posted too much. That's possible. It's been an incredibly boring day. My son was slow to get his work done and frustrated me and so posting here helped keep me sane. Plus it was just laundry and dusting/vacuuming day so I had tons of sit on my butt and read/post/worry about people who hadn't posted and try and spot the evilness.

[Rbishop]

to lynch....

mad (1) by bkw 74

jpap (1) by sway 84

jl66 (3) by ewurm 116 ice 157 lady 145

lady (2) by DC 85 mad 140

ewurm (1) by jl66 110

cs (1) by ogre 171

ogre (2) by coler 121 DD 144

sway (1) by jpap 180

12 of 15 townies voting....

3 not voting.... charlie, guppy and KOTD

about 90 minutes to nightfall...

PMs and e-mails as required....

[jpappy789]

Ok, I have changed my mind. Charlies' absence has really got me worried. 2 out of his 4 posts are "jokes" and one other one is unrelated to the game...I think he would have voted by now if he had nothing to hide.

I retract my bote on Swayde and I vote to lynch Charlie

I will decide whether this vote will stick depending on his reaction.

[DeputyChiefJR]

Ok, I have changed my mind. Charlies' absence has really got me worried. 2 out of his 4 posts are "jokes" and one other one is unrelated to the game...I think he would have voted by now if he had nothing to hide.

I retract my bote on Swayde and I vote to lynch Charlie

I will decide whether this vote will stick depending on his reaction.

Kind of a wasted vote. If he doesn't show in the next hour he dies anyway.

[Dangerdoll]

I do believe that not being worried about people not voting seems anti-town. Maybe I got a bit carried away with it and posted too much. That's possible. It's been an incredibly boring day. My son was slow to get his work done and frustrated me and so posting here helped keep me sane. Plus it was just laundry and dusting/vacuuming day so I had tons of sit on my butt and read/post/worry about people who hadn't posted and try and spot the evilness.
ok, let me explain what I meant by what I posted earlier in regards to rushing to vote. I wasn't saying that I thought it was no big deal fro anyone to not vote, I know what an impact that can have on the game and remembeering last game, yes, it's a huge impact. But the point I was at was, we weren't near the end of the night so why was there a big rush. I just don't see rushing to vote for anyone as helping the town either, especially when there is practically a day (7 or 8 hours) left. I would think it'd be better if we were more sure on who we were voting for instead of just throwing names out there so then we would be kinda "making" people find errors in their posts, even errors that seemingly meant nothing.... exploding it, and then voting out one of us townies on things people made up in their own heads only to lose one of us anyway. Yes, when it comes down to the wire, and a couple hours are left or less, yes, then I can see the panic... I in no way meant to put forth the idea that I thought voting was meaningless. I know it's not.

[IceH2O]

So looking at voting I see revenge votes from

JL/ewurm

Jpap/Sway

JL leading with 3 and Ogre and LG right behind with 2

Then a bunch of 1 votes.

I really wish JL would be more of a help on day 1 as I'm not really happy with this vote. Not that anyone is screaming Zombie. My other choice would be Ogre.

I'll have to pull the post but I think it was Ogres where someone lists who they think are innocents.

How can anyone get that feeling already?

I'm sitting here thinking I don't really like who I'm in company with on JL and then looking at other names and not really comfortable switching because I'm not satisfied with the people on them either.

I'm thinking the only way you can feel comfortable about someone is to know already they are innocent..

I'm going back to find that post then I think I'm voting that way because I think its Ogre and he was one of my higher suspects, though I was hoping I was wrong.

[IceH2O]

Kind of a wasted vote. If he doesn't show in the next hour he dies anyway.

Wow DC scary!

We can't really let that be the tell all of a vote or not. What if he is evil and planned on a thought like that? Then he skates by because its a wasted vote. He has 2 votes on him. 1 more ties him with JL or someone could jump off JL and jump on Charlie.

I don't think there are any wasted votes this game, well not the 1st night. After that I think it goes back to no post/vote.

Now back to my search.

[Swayde]

Wow DC scary!

We can't really let that be the tell all of a vote or not. What if he is evil and planned on a thought like that? Then he skates by because its a wasted vote. He has 2 votes on him. 1 more ties him with JL or someone could jump off JL and jump on Charlie.

I don't think there are any wasted votes this game, well not the 1st night. After that I think it goes back to no post/vote.

Now back to my search.


I can see it going both ways here. If Charlie doesn't come back and post a vote then yeah, he's going to die and the vote would be wasted. Or, it could be a safe vote because odds are we're going to take out a townie tonight with our lynch, there are only 2 out of 15 players that are evil. Heck the odds are more likely of us lynching a power role than it is to hit a zombie *cringes* However, it's not like Charlie to not show up and cast a vote and he really does look quite suspicious so far. There's been no weasle kicking and no early vote to get reactions and I have been very tempted to vote for himself several times today.

The more I think about it, the more I actually agree with a vote on Charlie.

I retract my vote on Jpappy and vote to lynch Charlie.

[IceH2O]

Wow, I think everyone else noticed at least a few zombie like things. I agree with you, but I think that the statement in blue is... odd. I didn't say wrong, just odd.



I like this for not only LadyG, but also DC. Notice I never voted for Coler, I wasn't planning to. I know I'd never get a prayer of getting the votes for that one, but also, he is a good player with lots of ideas... and if he's zombie, then we'll figure it out soon enough.

DC however, goes ahead and votes that with his gut in that direction.

So my top four candidates are
JL
LadyG
DC
DD - I think that she's kind of riding coattails again... something like she has been doing in the past as a bad guy.

for what it's worth.

I'd also like to point out something. I'm still not sure if this is good or bad for the town. Everyone is on their own track. I think only myself and JL have more than 1 vote. So everyone is thinking on their own and coming up with their own reasons... that's a good thing.

However, with the voting like this, the zombies can pretty much take out who they want with only one vote change (maybe two vote changes). That's bad.

If I am lynched, then (for the record) I do not think that Coler is a zombie at this point. I also like mad, sway, and ice as innocents.

BTW: This is valid for today only... stupid zombies.



Ok I thought it was worded differently and I kind of agree with Ogres top 3 but not DD. I didn't really think DC until his last post coupled with the others. Looks like he is trying to protect Charlie by buying him another day.

I'm going to jump off JL, and go back to Charlie since DC has no following. Might as well get 1 zombie tonight.

I retract my vote on JL and vote to lynch Charlie

[DeputyChiefJR]

Ok I thought it was worded differently and I kind of agree with Ogres top 3 but not DD. I didn't really think DC until his last post coupled with the others. Looks like he is trying to protect Charlie by buying him another day.

I'm going to jump off JL, and go back to Charlie since DC has no following. Might as well get 1 zombie tonight.

I retract my vote on JL and vote to lynch Charlie

Nah, I was just saying, normally Charlie has shown up by now....If he ends up a night 1 death without people switching, I personally don't see those votes as helping the town....He didn't show up to react for the vote on him half an hour ago....I would rather we try to find an evil amongst those who are actually talking...But that's just my opinion, I could be wrong.

[Rbishop]

about one hour....

[Lady G]

Ok, got my tetrizinni going now I have a minute to post some more between checking on it.

OMG, Mad how many times do I have to answer this ok one more time.
Yes the post are obviously correct. I DID NOT MEAN ANYTHING ABOUT YOU, I was just makeing a statement ok. now let's look beyond that ONE post ok..


Thanks for clarifying Lady G....

Here's BKW's post that you respond to ....


Here's your response to BKW...first part answers his post. Why add the second part at all (in blue), if it's not to imply that something is odd? Seriously, if I say about someone 'I surely wouldn't have done that,' it pretty much means that I'm questioning their judgement. I see no other reason for adding that little tidbit that you would have behaved differently.


Lady G, I think you might be squirming a little...


Well, not to much going on yet. I was hoping by the time I was able to get on this morning there would be a little more talk.

Yes Swayde I agree we all need to be getting a vote in, from what has been posted so far it's a little hard for me to say who I lean toward the most..being many haven't posted much more than one or two times.

But from what has been posted/not posted..I'd have to say, well like most the whole Orge/Coler thing has to jump out at you. I do not think they are both evil (at this time), then I think well I don't know how many games they have played together..Coler hasn't been in for a while and maybe they just haven't gotten use to each others posting style. From their exchange, I'd have to lean more toward Orge.

I'm not sure I like the way Bkw came after mad for mad not responding to his vote for him, I personaly would of asked him why he voted me, if my name would of been there...but I believe the way Mad answered him, it was very "Mad" like IMO. So that has me a "little" worried not enough to vote for him at this time.
Then we have KOTD, CS, Ewurm, gup, jpap, JL, DC..none of which have posted much of anything.

Charlie has me slightly concerned with his "I'm innocent" and I'm going to start each day saying that..mainly because he seems to always come down on others who "proclaim" their innocence. Very contradictory to the regular Charlie.

KOTD, JL, DC always seems to start slow only coming out when someone votes or names him.

Ewurm well he seems to be a bit more quite so far this round.

Guppy with her this seems to be very "Guppy" like she never post much, but she did say she wouldn't be here Sunday and did show up, so I'm not to sure on her. Of coarse I'm never to sure about Gup.

Jpap, honestly I just don't remember how he normaly starts the game off.

I would say if I HAD to pick 3 at this time it would have to be,
Ogre
Bkw
Ewurm/or Charlie
This is VERY likely to change b/c I really don't have much of a feel for anyone at this time..they just have "something" that has caught my eye, that's about it. I wish more ppl would post or at least post more when they do post cause honestly I have nothing right now.

There MAD, I wasn't meaning YOU seemed suspecious...yes I can see where you could read it that way, when you said something about it the first time I answered it, and I explained what I meant, apparently that wasn't good enough for you and I am sorry. Now I don't want to go to battle with you over one mis understood post, especially after I have already explained it to you. Mad I had you leaning more innocent then evil...but the way you keep bringing up this..it makes me wonder. Yes I understand you mentioning it ok, but I told you what I meant by it why keep bringing the SAME thing up over and over if not trying to start something with it?

[IceH2O]

Nah, I was just saying, normally Charlie has shown up by now....If he ends up a night 1 death without people switching, I personally don't see those votes as helping the town....He didn't show up to react for the vote on him half an hour ago....I would rather we try to find an evil amongst those who are actually talking...But that's just my opinion, I could be wrong.

As hard as its going to be to find a zombie when there are only 2 I'd be more then glad to vote out a person that is going to die an untimely death. Thats 1 less innocent we might lose. If we vote wrong lose one to death and then lose 1 to the zombies we're out 3. Bad enough KOTD and Gup haven't voted yet.

This setup just about screams lynch the untimely death crowd, at least until the zombies get numbers, we get more info and its easier to hit them.

[Lady G]

Ahhh Crap guy's now you got me thinking about this whole untimely death thing. If we are going to end up loosing Charlie, Guppy, and KOTD along w/ the zombies snatchin one up....BLAH I don't know what I want to do, I don't want to switch my vote and all along I thought if I did end up switching it would be to Ogre, but now that you brought this factor into my face I don't know what I want to do!
Ok, now b/c of the way these three are playing not only do we have to worry about us lynching a townie, the zombies taking a townie now we have the added weight of these three possibly dieing an untimely death...OMG this game is already killing me and it's only day one!

[jpappy789]

Nah, I was just saying, normally Charlie has shown up by now....If he ends up a night 1 death without people switching, I personally don't see those votes as helping the town....He didn't show up to react for the vote on him half an hour ago....I would rather we try to find an evil amongst those who are actually talking...But that's just my opinion, I could be wrong.

I know what you mean DC.

I generally hate all of the statistics crap but basically we have a better chance of lynching an innocent tonight (as it has been explained a billion times) and Charlie could very well be a zombie.

I will decide for sure whether my vote for Chas sticks or not depending on his reaction to the votes, as I stated earlier. If he doesn't show up I will probably keep it anyways because I don't know who else I would vote for at this point...I hope we get lucky.

[Lady G]

Hey everyone I really don't have much more time before I have to get my supper out, I need to know what you think here...I know I'm on several "suspected" zombie lists, and I don't know what to tell you right now, all I know is I don't want to end up down more innocents then we have to. So I need to know how everyone feels about switching to one of the non-posters?? I'm not sure I like that but if they end up NOT voting like has been pointed out they are going to die PERIOD, so would it be better to come together as a town and vote one of them for tonight???
I'm sure this will be used against me somehow but I just really want others opinion on this.

[OgreMkV]

I'm predicting a sudden surge of votes and I think they'll be zombies and I'm pretty sure they'll decide who goes out tonight.

Just remember charlie's weirdness if he skates today.

[OgreMkV]

LadyG, if we lose three players to nonvoting and we don't hit a zombie today or tomorrow, then the game is over and we lose.

[jpappy789]

Hey everyone I really don't have much more time before I have to get my supper out, I need to know what you think here...I know I'm on several "suspected" zombie lists, and I don't know what to tell you right now, all I know is I don't want to end up down more innocents then we have to. So I need to know how everyone feels about switching to one of the non-posters?? I'm not sure I like that but if they end up NOT voting like has been pointed out they are going to die PERIOD, so would it be better to come together as a town and vote one of them for tonight???
I'm sure this will be used against me somehow but I just really want others opinion on this.

In past games I have been against it. But in the recent games any measure to prevent another townie from dying or becoming bad needs to be taken...

The problem is that any one of them could be a power role who is unfortunately unable to post...

[Lady G]

Ok, you know what...I'm not going to change my vote at this time. If something comes to light before nightfall and I see it I will switch. But as the votes lay right now Charlie is in the lead..so if he doesn't come and vote he will be voted off, if he does or if KOTD, or Guppy vote I would question their votes though b/c how would they of had time to come to a conclusion if they haven't been here the whole time.

[Lady G]

LadyG, if we lose three players to nonvoting and we don't hit a zombie today or tomorrow, then the game is over and we lose.

I know Ogre..that is why I am having a battle with myself right now w/ what to do. Like I said though Charlie is leading in votes, if something comes to light before actual nightfall I'll switch but for now I think I will stay right where I'm at *biting fingernails*

[jpappy789]

*sigh* I wish people would vote...I now understand how you guys must have felt last game when I didn't...

Last game there was a lot of discussion about who would be turned. I am surprised that none of that has really come up this game...

[Swayde]

*sigh* I wish people would vote...I now understand how you guys must have felt last game when I didn't...

Last game there was a lot of discussion about who would be turned. I am surprised that none of that has really come up this game...


Hard to know in this game with the roles being randomly distributed per RB. Last game everyone said it would probably be low posters, people who fly under radar, but it wasn't, it was all heavy posters who draw lots of attention, but rarely get voted out. So basically it's hard to really speculate because it can be anyone depending on who's the lead zombie and what their thought process is.

[DeputyChiefJR]

I highly suspect people voting for someone who will probably die. It's equal to voting for no one, it shows an unwillingness to try to win for the town early. And it's an easy excuse for zombies to turn around and say, "well you can't point your finger at me, I didn't do anything to hurt the town." (Except sit back and do nothing and take the easy path.) Twiddle your thumbs if you'd like, but I actually want to win.

[OgreMkV]

Well, if you can get consensus on a player that we all think is zombie, then we'll listen.

[IceH2O]

I highly suspect people voting for someone who will probably die. It's equal to voting for no one, it shows an unwillingness to try to win for the town early. And it's an easy excuse for zombies to turn around and say, "well you can't point your finger at me, I didn't do anything to hurt the town." (Except sit back and do nothing and take the easy path.) Twiddle your thumbs if you'd like, but I actually want to win.

Normally I'd agree with you but past games had a higher number of bad guys so we had a better chance at hitting one. With only 2 bad guys the chances become almost nill and then we also have to worry about power roles.

If anything I'd be more concerned with someone that wouldn't want to vote out an untimely death and take a chance on severely weakening ourselves by losing multiple innocents and possibly a power role.

[DeputyChiefJR]

I can't get anyone to do anything but throw around a ton of first day suspicion. I landed my vote on who I thought was evil. I may be wrong, but I'm willing to take a chance. Others have pointed out the same reasons that have caused me to leave my vote where it is. We're guaranteed to lose 1 tonight, but I'm not going to shake in my boots about trying to nail one of them too.

[DeputyChiefJR]

Ice, you of all people should know that caution and overthinking killed us in the Bio-Badlands game. Yeah they started out with 4, but even if, they start multiplying very fast and twist votes. Also it's been pointed out that in this kind of game we should be careful of the bad guys as well as potential targets of theirs. Why are a couple of you accepting of them building up their team, since they can take our power roles? Please explain this to me and I might be more willing to go along with the ideas posted.

[jpappy789]

I can't get anyone to do anything but throw around a ton of first day suspicion. I landed my vote on who I thought was evil. I may be wrong, but I'm willing to take a chance. Others have pointed out the same reasons that have caused me to leave my vote where it is. We're guaranteed to lose 1 tonight, but I'm not going to shake in my boots about trying to nail one of them too.

DC what do you expect of us, to nail the two zombies on day one?

[DeputyChiefJR]

DC what do you expect of us, to nail the two zombies on day one?

I'm an ambitious lad, I guess...

[IceH2O]

Ice, you of all people should know that caution and overthinking killed us in the Bio-Badlands game. Yeah they started out with 4, but even if, they start multiplying very fast and twist votes. Also it's been pointed out that in this kind of game we should be careful of the bad guys as well as potential targets of theirs. Why are a couple of you accepting of them building up their team, since they can take our power roles? Please explain this to me and I might be more willing to go along with the ideas posted.

I'm not accepting letting them build up their team as much as I'm worried about tearing down our own team. Theres nothing we can do about them grabbing our power roles except to kill off our power roles or get the zombies before they get them. With 2 its hard to find patterns but with 3 it might help put pieces together.

[IceH2O]

That read wrong or could be taken wrong. I don't want to kill off our power roles. I'm just saying its the only way to prevent them from grabbing them.

[Dangerdoll]

Ice, are you suggesting killing of the power roles?

[Rbishop]

It is Night...

[Dangerdoll]

sorry..... I guess I read it wrong.... but the bottom line is, you are thinking it'd be best for the town if they were gone.... they should be helping... oh geez..... complicated, very!

[Rbishop]

Well, it appears that 80% of the Townies have spoken.

Not a very good turnout, if you are looking at things from the point of view, they are here voluntarily and to save ACville from a terrible fate.

The Townies encircle the chosen lynch, and the rope is tossed high, and their neck is entrapped. Within seconds, their feet leave the ground.

The fall of dusk does not create any physical changes to the victim.

charlie_stubbs passes from ACville with completely normal genetics.

[Rbishop]

With the true Townies retired for the night and some rueing their choice, the zombies head out on their mission.

They approach their victim, and feast away; careful to not drain too much blood or devour too much flesh.

They want this one to be theirs, as an undead.

A Townie has been bitten and turned........

[Rbishop]

Day 2 begins.....with a quick rain taking away any signs of the blood letting....

Nightfall, Day 2, will be 8 PM EST, Wednesday.

[IceH2O]

??????????????????


You must vote each Game Day, or you will experience an untimely death.


What about Guppy and KOTD?

[Swayde]

Not that I am complaining or anything, but what happend to the untimely deaths of the people not voting? Sure one could have been the townie turned, but there were 2 who didn't vote and didn't get lynched...

[jpappy789]

My thoughts exactly. I mean I would rather have them here if they are both innocent but I am confused...

[Swayde]

I'm going to play WoW with my hubby for a bit, I'll check back in before I got to bed =)

[IceH2O]

If they weren't dying an untimely death then voting for Charlie was wrong.

Rule clarification please?

[IceH2O]

sorry..... I guess I read it wrong.... but the bottom line is, you are thinking it'd be best for the town if they were gone.... they should be helping... oh geez..... complicated, very!

I knew it was getting close to night so I tried to clarify it quickly.

I was explaining that we can't stop the zombies from turning power roles if they find them. The only way we could stop it would be to kill the power roles, which I'm not for doing. Or by getting the zombies before they could turn them. I was in no way advocating killing off power roles. If I were I would be pushing to vote for people other then untimely deaths.

With a day behind us more info should come through and make it easier to find zombies. With 3 innocents gone and 1 turned the odds are better for us to hit zombies.

[DeputyChiefJR]

Wow, what a wonderful plan...(dripping with sarcasm)...So we lynched an innocent anyway and got no real information.....

[Lady G]

Ummm, I'm lost now?? I mean yeah it's great we didn't loose 4 townies in one night, but I believe many votes were changed b/c of the untimely death thing??

[jpappy789]

If they weren't dying an untimely death then voting for Charlie was wrong.

Rule clarification please?

That would have been nice to know earlier, that's for sure...:wall:

[jpappy789]

Wow, what a wonderful plan...(dripping with sarcasm)...So we lynched an innocent anyway and got no real information.....

Dc, those "I told you so" posts don't get us anywhere...I don't remember you helping out.

[IceH2O]

Even if one was turned the zombies shouldn't get them either. We were going to lose them for not voting so it doesn't seem fair that they would get them either.

[Rbishop]

With great sorrow, it is time to announce the deaths of KOTD and GGF....

It seems their vampire lust for one another has arisen.

Though both have normal genetics and no special roles...they obviously have other desires than to take an active interest in helping ACville.

They are no longer part of the game.

[IceH2O]

Wow, what a wonderful plan...(dripping with sarcasm)...So we lynched an innocent anyway and got no real information.....

And what info would we have gotten if we lynched LG and she was innocent besides that maybe 1 zombie was on her. I highly doubt 2 would sit on her when there were so many 1 votes and 3 was the high vote count.

[jpappy789]

Thanks for the clarification rb...not a good night...

[Lady G]

Ok, so we are down 2 as of now right?? One lynched innocent (which would not of been lynched if not for the "rule") and the one the zombies took. Which since the "untimely" death's didn't happen very easily could of been one of the non-voters??

[DeputyChiefJR]

I tried to convince the town to go after someone who was talking...Everyone said I was so wrong and that we'd be better off after this vote. For all we know they could ahve the seer or the hunter now and all we did was eliminate an innocent who hadn't said a word...I get tired of these post count votes or the ones on people who haven't shown up. Some of the best players are evil and know how to tlk it up like everyone else....I want to try and lynch someone evil this next night....

[Lady G]

Oh, well then we did loose KOTD and GUP.

[jpappy789]

With a day behind us more info should come through and make it easier to find zombies. With 3 innocents gone and 1 turned the odds are better for us to hit zombies.

Yeah, the odds are better but I doubt anyone was taking a serious look and ggf or kotd anyways. We aren't exactly where we started but we aren't off to a great start either...

[DeputyChiefJR]

Ok, so the untimely deaths happened. We've lost 4 and we have no real evidence because half the town voted for the easy choice instead of having to show any of their hand. I'm going to look into those that voted charlie, not that it'll help much, we made a great cover for the zombies to vote under.

[jpappy789]

I tried to convince the town to go after someone who was talking...Everyone said I was so wrong and that we'd be better off after this vote. For all we know they could ahve the seer or the hunter now and all we did was eliminate an innocent who hadn't said a word...I get tired of these post count votes or the ones on people who haven't shown up. Some of the best players are evil and know how to tlk it up like everyone else....I want to try and lynch someone evil this next night....

I see no post where you seriously pushed a lynch. For all we know lady g could be innocent...then where we would be right now? No closer to winning that's for sure...

[Lady G]

I tried to convince the town to go after someone who was talking...Everyone said I was so wrong and that we'd be better off after this vote. For all we know they could ahve the seer or the hunter now and all we did was eliminate an innocent who hadn't said a word...I get tired of these post count votes or the ones on people who haven't shown up. Some of the best players are evil and know how to tlk it up like everyone else....I want to try and lynch someone evil this next night....

Yes, and they could of got the Doc, BG or the Sheriff either way (there is no hunter or seer in this game DC).

No I don't like that Charlie was lynched but...we would of lost one more possibley innocent had they not voted Charlie. I just am not sure why Charlie was picked of KOTD or GUP. That is why I didn't switch cause I wasn't sure the reason for picking Charlie as opposed to the other two.

[Lady G]

I see no post where you seriously pushed a lynch. For all we know lady g could be innocent...then where we would be right now? No closer to winning that's for sure...

No he didn't he started with a I vote LG because she has fooled me before, hmmm well if we are voting on ppl who have fooled us and sticking w/ it we got a town FULL of ppl who have fooled others in previous games.

I understand ppl looking at me as well they should we need to look at everyone.

[jpappy789]

Yes, and they could of got the Doc, BG or the Sheriff either way (there is no hunter or seer in this game DC).

No I don't like that Charlie was lynched but...we would of lost one more possibley innocent had they not voted Charlie. I just am not sure why Charlie was picked of KOTD or GUP. That is why I didn't switch cause I wasn't sure the reason for picking Charlie as opposed to the other two.

I don't know why it would have mattered. They are all dead now. I suspected that Charlie would come back. Had he posted his regular frantic "why are you voting for me?" response I was planning on switching my vote off of him. Had he played it cool I was going to be even more suspect of him. But none of that makes a difference now.

[IceH2O]

I think DC KNEW Charlie was innocent and thats why the big hub bub about us voting charlie off.

Nice cover DC, protect the dead.

Like I said earlier no info was going to be found out with the votes spread out like they were. Zombies don't have the numbers to actually force a lynch and zombies wouldn't vote out an untimely death. It doesn't help them.