View Full Version : Something nice in the plant order!
Dwarf Puffers
10-10-2007, 2:53 PM
Hey, I always thought it was just when you went online and ordered plants that you got extras... Well, I was proved wrong! :woot: :woot: :woot: , and now I need some ID's. They all look like they'll be background plants.
First, this nice 6-7" tall plant...
http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/ee105/TheFishyGuy/Brycespics091.jpg
Now, this red/brown/green plant, about 6" tall...
http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/ee105/TheFishyGuy/Brycespics092.jpg
This is a bit shorter than the red, maybe 5.5" tall...
http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/ee105/TheFishyGuy/Brycespics093.jpg
And finally, my nana. Kind of dissapointing for 11.99$ each, arn't they? Nice roots though.
http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/ee105/TheFishyGuy/Brycespics094.jpg
As you have probably noticed, only mystery plant #3 had roots (other 2 have traces of them growing). I'm guessing they would have rotted off, like when you order crypts and get "stumps". It'd help if you posted the potential size of the MTP (Mystery plants) and their lighting requirements, as my tank will be a medium light. All plants currently mid ground for as much light as possible with the availible lamp and 10g hoods. They look nice ;)
-DP
shaggbark
10-10-2007, 2:55 PM
The first pic is hornwort, can grow very tall and likes medium to high light. HTH, Michelle
Dwarf Puffers
10-10-2007, 2:58 PM
How tall? I'm good with up to 20"...
I've wanted some of the "wort" plants, they're good for fry, apparently...
DarrylR
10-10-2007, 3:14 PM
I thought moneywort and red ludwiga I might be wrong.
Hm I googled moneywort and couldn't get the right plant, I seen the first one in Petsmart but I don't remember the name right now.
Dwarf Puffers
10-10-2007, 3:18 PM
What are the lighting requirements and height of the ludwiga?
soobie
10-10-2007, 3:52 PM
The first one looks like moneywort to me, Bacopa monnieri. There's some info here (http://www.aquabotanic.com/profilebacopamon.htm).
SQUEAK
10-10-2007, 3:58 PM
I have that first plant... and the name I had for it is on the tip of my tongue (although I've never made a positive ID). I don't think that is a hornwort though - or at least not any species that I am aware of.
The second kind of looks like a Ludwigia, however I am not great with identifying the distinguishing characteristics there. The leaves are vaguely correct, the color is of a form that exists, and the general structure seems to fit? I can't get any closer than that though. Ludwigia is traditionally a relatively easy plant to grow, rated as 'medium' light normally (I think those ratings are utter trash, but different topic). Will get relatively tall - I would use it as a background plant. Trim well, try to propogate it out before it gets too tall.
I cannot identify the last to any acceptable extent, so I will refrain. Moneywort is a possibility...
p.s. $12 for that grouping of nana wasn't bad at all - I've definitely done worse. It's a slow growing plant to be certain though. Kind of a pity really, as fully grown out it is incredible.
SQUEAK
10-10-2007, 4:00 PM
The first one looks like moneywort to me, Bacopa monnieri. There's some info here (http://www.aquabotanic.com/profilebacopamon.htm).
Normally, I might agree with you on visual inspection - except that I am fairly sure I recognize that plant, and I don't believe it to be monnieri. The physical structure and resilience of this plant makes me believe it to be more of a marsh plant than anything else. Monnieri on the other hand, has in my experience been a very 'soft' plant to the touch, and is not nearly so hardy.
feemia
10-10-2007, 4:02 PM
The first one looks like moneywort to me, Bacopa monnieri.
I agree about the first one, I have some in my tank. The second one looks like ludwigia repens which likes medium light. The more light it has, the more red you'll get.
Dwarf Puffers
10-10-2007, 4:15 PM
I agree about the first one, I have some in my tank. The second one looks like ludwigia repens which likes medium light. The more light it has, the more red you'll get.
That would explain why it was almost red at the casually lighted LFS and turned green & brown 3 hours at my place...
Any ID on the third? Looks a little related to the 1st, maybe a kind of bacopa/wort?
jencheung
10-10-2007, 4:21 PM
I'd agree that the second looks like ludwigia of some kind though I couldn't tell you which specifically. The third plant looks to me like Bacopa Caroliniana, similar to moneywort.
All three of them are stem plants with the first two being cuttings - meaning the roots didn't rot off in transit, they haven't formed yet. Plant them and in time they'll develop roots. When they get too tall you can just cut them down and plant the tops and again, in time they'll develop roots. Also, if you want shorter, bushier growth, trim them back more often and where you've cut them they'll often tend to branch out. Great extras, good luck with them!!
phanmc
10-10-2007, 4:43 PM
1. Bacopa monnieri, aka moneywort
2. Ludwigia, either repens or palustris. I think it's palustris because the leaves look narrower and more spear-shaped than repens.
3. Bacopa caroliniana
Plants 2 and 3 will color up under more light, though they're hardy enough to grow under medium lighting.
Dwarf Puffers
10-10-2007, 4:46 PM
Thanks all, been great getting some info. Will they last 4 days with 30-40 watts on them?
phanmc
10-10-2007, 4:53 PM
The plants look healthy enough to stay alive for a week in poor lighting.
This for the 75g or the 10g in your sig? 30-40w over a 10g should be able to grow them.
Dwarf Puffers
10-10-2007, 4:57 PM
75g, the 2 10s haven't yet been planted, I want to stabilise what I'm trying to do to the 75g first :lipssealedsmilie:
phanmc
10-10-2007, 5:02 PM
In that case, you'll want to have a little over 150w of light for those plants.
Dwarf Puffers
10-10-2007, 5:03 PM
I hope that's going to be possible with 2 20g hoods...