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IceH2O
10-18-2007, 8:30 PM
Frankly I don't care how it pans out as long as a witch leaves.

Theres still about 24 hours left so I'm going to wait to actually vote. I want to see where votes fall and what info comes available between now and then.

IceH2O
10-18-2007, 10:07 PM
Wow its quiet.

Everyone pretty sure of their votes?

Anyone besides Jpap, Z and Ogre want to make a case for their vote on a suspect?

Seriously I'm torn between the Z/Jpap and Ogre/Charlie/KOTD, though I'm leaning on trusting the Z/Jpap team. They look like they are helping more then Team O/C/K.

DD I don't think anyone is going to vote Blue tonight so who are you leaning towards voting for? Or do you plan on staying on Blue?

KOTD who are you going to vote for? I don't think I've ever seen a list from you.

DC I could use your input also. If you're going to vote KOTD then my vote won't really matter but if you go Ogre or Z or Jpap it could be game changing. Basically I need your feelings on these players.

ZSandmann
10-18-2007, 10:08 PM
My vote won't be changing Ice. I think that's a good plan and either way we'll have a Witch.

ZSandmann
10-18-2007, 10:10 PM
lol, it's Thursday, Survivor and CSI night

OgreMkV
10-18-2007, 10:27 PM
I just bought the Transformers 2 disc set. I won't be around the rest of the night.

I've made my case. Unless something else comes up, I'm happy with my vote.

I'm not saying that I won't change my vote, but it would be difficult.

Let me ask this. If KOTD is a witch, then what have we learned? I think everyone agrees that he's a witch at this point. Then, tomorrow, we still have the me/Z issue.

ZSandmann
10-18-2007, 10:30 PM
So you want to skip killing a Witch to figure out which of us is Innocent?

ZSandmann
10-18-2007, 10:32 PM
Also, that seems like an exit clause you put there.
You are happy with your vote, BUT you might change it...

ZSandmann
10-18-2007, 10:34 PM
I am jealous of the Transformers DVD though, last week I bought Shawn of the Dead, 28 Months Later, and Flight of the Living Dead for my Halloween party next weekend. Yup it's a Zombie themed party. :D

IceH2O
10-18-2007, 10:36 PM
I just bought the Transformers 2 disc set. I won't be around the rest of the night.

I've made my case. Unless something else comes up, I'm happy with my vote.

I'm not saying that I won't change my vote, but it would be difficult.

Let me ask this. If KOTD is a witch, then what have we learned? I think everyone agrees that he's a witch at this point. Then, tomorrow, we still have the me/Z issue.

So you want us to decide between the 2 of you instead of voting off KOTD?

I'm more then willing to vote off a witch tonight and deal with the Ogre/Z drama tomorrow.

Maybe we don't learn anything from KOTD being witch but at least we got one.

I will say that your reasoning has pushed you even closer to being witch.

IceH2O
10-18-2007, 10:38 PM
Do you actually sit there and watch the movies or do they just play in the background?

Doesn't the loud music and drunken loud talk get in the way of hearing the movie?

Man I miss the partying days!

ZSandmann
10-18-2007, 10:45 PM
I don't normally play music indoors only in the backyard. So mainly drunken talking. Should of seen the last party I had. It was a Wii party playing Mortal Kombat Apocalypse. Drunken Wii is the most hilarious thing to watch.

IceH2O
10-18-2007, 10:48 PM
I vote to burn Ogre

ZSandmann
10-18-2007, 10:58 PM
I really want to know DC's thoughts right now. King is going to vote Ogre, that's basically a given. Things can change but as it stands it gives DC the decider, which is fitting as he is the most known.

Dangerdoll
10-18-2007, 11:08 PM
Wow its quiet.

Everyone pretty sure of their votes?

Anyone besides Jpap, Z and Ogre want to make a case for their vote on a suspect?

Seriously I'm torn between the Z/Jpap and Ogre/Charlie/KOTD, though I'm leaning on trusting the Z/Jpap team. They look like they are helping more then Team O/C/K.

DD I don't think anyone is going to vote Blue tonight so who are you leaning towards voting for? Or do you plan on staying on Blue?

KOTD who are you going to vote for? I don't think I've ever seen a list from you.

DC I could use your input also. If you're going to vote KOTD then my vote won't really matter but if you go Ogre or Z or Jpap it could be game changing. Basically I need your feelings on these players.

I am stuck on blue.... but I am willing to change that for the night, for the betterment if the town. So if it would be between Z/Jpap and Ogre/Charlie/KOTD, I think I would feel more comfortable voting Z/Jpap. I just am not sure of King, and well... you all know my issues with Charlie and yet, I see no solid evidence that he'd be witchy. Ogre, eh.... maybe. BUT I have found myself during this game to be questioning whether Pappy or Z were witchy so if I need to choose, that's the direction I am headed.

I unvote to burn Bluerat

Dangerdoll
10-18-2007, 11:10 PM
I see this as the most current list:
ogre (1) by blue 713

kotd (4) by sway 675 plant 678 zsand 689 jpap 690

jpap (1) by charlie 672

zsand (1) by ogre 656

7 of 11 having voted...

4 with no current votes... Deputy, Ice, KOTD, DD...

It looks though that the line is on King.... besides Charlie, am alone in feeling the pappy/Z are dancing in circles around the witchy brew?

Dangerdoll
10-18-2007, 11:13 PM
That is going if I were to choose Pappy.... if I were to choose sand, that goes against everything because Ogre is on him. Then that would turn that whole other side of Ogre out. Of the Ogre/Charlie/King combo though, I feel like Ogre is definitely a witchy presence there but am still unsure of the other two.... which kind of kills the thought of voting on Z, because Ogre is on Z....

DeputyChiefJR
10-19-2007, 2:46 AM
I'm very tired but for now I'm going to put in a vote.

i vote to burn jpap.

I haven't trusted him from early on...My vote is subject to change in the morning when I wake up, though.

IceH2O
10-19-2007, 6:18 AM
I am stuck on blue.... but I am willing to change that for the night, for the betterment if the town. So if it would be between Z/Jpap and Ogre/Charlie/KOTD, I think I would feel more comfortable voting Z/Jpap. I just am not sure of King, and well... you all know my issues with Charlie and yet, I see no solid evidence that he'd be witchy. Ogre, eh.... maybe. BUT I have found myself during this game to be questioning whether Pappy or Z were witchy so if I need to choose, that's the direction I am headed.

I unvote to burn Bluerat


I'm actually glad you brought Charlie up.

I can't say I've seen any real flirting going on as in past games. Are you guys getting it all done in the chat room or free forums you're all using?



That is going if I were to choose Pappy.... if I were to choose sand, that goes against everything because Ogre is on him. Then that would turn that whole other side of Ogre out. Of the Ogre/Charlie/King combo though, I feel like Ogre is definitely a witchy presence there but am still unsure of the other two.... which kind of kills the thought of voting on Z, because Ogre is on Z....

So you're trying to say

Jpap/Ogre team?

Hell in one post its Z/Jpap then the very next post its Ogre.

So whats the deal?

KOTD is innocent but you don't want to be on the train? You can't vote for Ogre because thats ones of your boys and it seems like a wasted vote to go onto anyone else?
DCs vote went to Jpap, that gives Jpap 2 votes you'd make 3 and you can be with your wart loving friend Charlie.

I have

Z- - Ogre

Jpap- - CS DC

KOTD -- Sway Plant Z Jpap

Ogre -- Blue Ice


Is it just me or does DD seem like a rabbit trying to escape the hounds in an enclosed pen?

Swayde
10-19-2007, 6:33 AM
I'm actually glad you brought Charlie up.

I can't say I've seen any real flirting going on as in past games. Are you guys getting it all done in the chat room or free forums you're all using?




So you're trying to say

Jpap/Ogre team?

Hell in one post its Z/Jpap then the very next post its Ogre.

So whats the deal?

KOTD is innocent but you don't want to be on the train? You can't vote for Ogre because thats ones of your boys and it seems like a wasted vote to go onto anyone else?
DCs vote went to Jpap, that gives Jpap 2 votes you'd make 3 and you can be with your wart loving friend Charlie.

I have

Z- - Ogre

Jpap- - CS DC

KOTD -- Sway Plant Z Jpap

Ogre -- Blue Ice


Is it just me or does DD seem like a rabbit trying to escape the hounds in an enclosed pen?

It's not just you.

charlie_stubbs
10-19-2007, 6:42 AM
When did i become part of the King/Ogre/Charlie connection?

In case you hadn't noticed, Jpap and King are my two top suspects.

If Jpap is a witch, then i am going after ZS next. If Jpap is innocent, then Ogre is a witch.

And since you brought it up Ice:

A poem for Dangerdoll, by Charlie Stubbs

All because of a single word,
Whispered so low, i barely heard,
My heart, with joy, took wings and flew
Into your souls Infinite Blue

IceH2O
10-19-2007, 6:53 AM
Since most think KOTD is evil and I need to use my witch turning spell I'd like to use it on him. If we went that way how would your votes fall then?

If not turning KOTD should I turn DD, Ogre,Charlie?

This is an important day if we want to win. We need input from everyone.

My only fear is that KOTD is innocent and thats why the witches aren't on him. If I turned him he'd become one of them. Though he'd be as worthless to them as he is for us.

If KOTD is an innocent it would explain why the witches aren't on him, they can then pick apart the group sitting on KOTD as witches.

But they can just as easily not be on him trying to save him.

I think they are pushing Z/Jpap so we lose an innocent because they're afraid I'll turn KOTD and they'll be down 2 witches. They are hoping that someone on KOTD will jump ship to Z/Jpap.

You guys really need to discuss this today.

Judging from my work email its going to be another slow day so I should be home early. Not as early as yesterday but early none the less.

IceH2O
10-19-2007, 6:57 AM
When did i become part of the King/Ogre/Charlie connection?

In case you hadn't noticed, Jpap and King are my two top suspects.

If Jpap is a witch, then i am going after ZS next. If Jpap is innocent, then Ogre is a witch.

And since you brought it up Ice:

A poem for Dangerdoll, by Charlie Stubbs

All because of a single word,
Whispered so low, i barely heard,
My heart, with joy, took wings and flew
Into your souls Infinite Blue


Jpap and KOTD are your top suspects but if Jpap is innocent then you'll go after Ogre? Why not KOTD? Why sit on Jpap when you could join the KOTD train?

If KOTD is witch does that make Ogre witch?

charlie_stubbs
10-19-2007, 7:03 AM
Charlie daydreams about his beloved Dangerdoll while he chokes his chicken. Someday he hopes she will marry him and help him with this task. There is alot of chicken choking to be done here at Stubb's Chicken Farm. Charlie has heard that the witches of Acville can conjure a love potion. If he could get his hands on this, he could give it to DD, and they could live happily ever after. He re-doubles his efforts to find one.

Swayde
10-19-2007, 7:15 AM
My list of suspects in order of suspicion from most likely witch to most likely innocent...

KoTD
Ogre
DD
CS
Jpap
ZS
Blue
Plant
Ice
DC
Swayde

Swayde
10-19-2007, 7:18 AM
I don't have specific reasons and posts for my suspects. My suspicion is based on my overall opinion of everyone throughout the entire thread.

charlie_stubbs
10-19-2007, 7:22 AM
Since most think KOTD is evil and I need to use my witch turning spell I'd like to use it on him. If we went that way how would your votes fall then?
If you use the spell on KOTD, my vote would stay on Jpap.
If not turning KOTD should I turn DD, Ogre,Charlie?
This is a responsibility I would not want. DD's posts have been helpful IMO. Ogre I have had leaning witchy then back to leaning innocent a couple of times so far. Of these choices, I would select Ogre. If you chose me, I will make the same pledge you did and still try to help the town. I won't name anyone in the interest of fair play, but you can follow my votes as i will know who is innocent.
This is an important day if we want to win. We need input from everyone.
Totally agree. We must lynch a witch. Jpap is the best suspect I have. If the town feels there is a better suspect I would change my vote. You and DC are the only players that can be trusted Ice, and your the best player IMO, so call me a bandwagoner, but i plan to follow your advice closely.
My only fear is that KOTD is innocent and thats why the witches aren't on him. If I turned him he'd become one of them. Though he'd be as worthless to them as he is for us.
lol thats cruel
If KOTD is an innocent it would explain why the witches aren't on him, they can then pick apart the group sitting on KOTD as witches.
ok now your starting to confuse me. Who are the witches again?
But they can just as easily not be on him trying to save him.
alot of "if's" being tossed around. If a frog had wings, it wouldn't bump it's rearend when it jumped
I think they are pushing Z/Jpap so we lose an innocent because they're afraid I'll turn KOTD and they'll be down 2 witches. They are hoping that someone on KOTD will jump ship to Z/Jpap.

You guys really need to discuss this today.

Judging from my work email its going to be another slow day so I should be home early. Not as early as yesterday but early none the less.
comments in red

charlie_stubbs
10-19-2007, 7:32 AM
Jpap and KOTD are your top suspects but if Jpap is innocent then you'll go after Ogre? Why not KOTD? Why sit on Jpap when you could join the KOTD train?
Because if Jpap turns out to be innocent, It will look to me like Ogre was blowing alot of smoke towards Jpap to keep players like me looking his way instead of Ogre's. If you think I don't wanna vote KOTD, you're sadly mistaken. He is always a low poster, but this game takes the cake.
If KOTD is witch does that make Ogre witch?
Ummmmmm...maybe. I'll have to look into that. I get the impression you think I'm reluctant to vote for KOTD. I think Jpap and KOTD are both witches. I only want to push Jpap first because if he is a witch, I can also see a solid link to ZS there and may get a two-fer. But in the interest of weasel kicking, maybe if KOTD sees his name in bold a few times, he'll be inclined to post.
I vote to burn KOTD at the stake.

charlie_stubbs
10-19-2007, 7:35 AM
if you use the spell on KOTD, I will move my vote back to Jpap. If you use the spell on Ogre or DD, I will leave my vote on KOTD. If you use the spell on me, the next day i will vote for an innocent.

charlie_stubbs
10-19-2007, 7:54 AM
edit:
I retract my vote for Jpap and vote to burn KOTD at the stake.

charlie_stubbs
10-19-2007, 8:09 AM
*game off*
Ice please visit the NFL thread for an unrelated matter.
*game on*

KingOfTheDeep
10-19-2007, 8:18 AM
Since most think KOTD is evil and I need to use my witch turning spell I'd like to use it on him. If we went that way how would your votes fall then?

If not turning KOTD should I turn DD, Ogre,Charlie?

This is an important day if we want to win. We need input from everyone.

My only fear is that KOTD is innocent and thats why the witches aren't on him. If I turned him he'd become one of them. Though he'd be as worthless to them as he is for us.

If KOTD is an innocent it would explain why the witches aren't on him, they can then pick apart the group sitting on KOTD as witches.

But they can just as easily not be on him trying to save him.

I think they are pushing Z/Jpap so we lose an innocent because they're afraid I'll turn KOTD and they'll be down 2 witches. They are hoping that someone on KOTD will jump ship to Z/Jpap.

You guys really need to discuss this today.

Judging from my work email its going to be another slow day so I should be home early. Not as early as yesterday but early none the less.


do it, then you'll get to see just how worthless i am ;)

plantling
10-19-2007, 8:30 AM
I'm not so great at scaled list with numbers but I suppose I can start from those that are least witchy.

Ice and DC are innocents, so afterwards would be:

Myself
Swayde
Blue
DD
Z
Jp
CS
Ogre
KoTD

Dangerdoll
10-19-2007, 9:06 AM
I'm actually glad you brought Charlie up.

I can't say I've seen any real flirting going on as in past games. Are you guys getting it all done in the chat room or free forums you're all using?
So you're trying to say
Jpap/Ogre team?
Hell in one post its Z/Jpap then the very next post its Ogre.
So whats the deal?
KOTD is innocent but you don't want to be on the train? You can't vote for Ogre because thats ones of your boys and it seems like a wasted vote to go onto anyone else?
DCs vote went to Jpap, that gives Jpap 2 votes you'd make 3 and you can be with your wart loving friend Charlie.
I have
Z- - Ogre
Jpap- - CS DC
KOTD -- Sway Plant Z Jpap
Ogre -- Blue Ice
Is it just me or does DD seem like a rabbit trying to escape the hounds in an enclosed pen?
What?!?!? why do I seem suspicious?? If anything, I am doing my best to help the town. The confusion over who to vote for is just that. All my good feeling that I had for people being witchy are completely incorrect and I cannot put my finger on it. I am afraid to vote another townie because we are doing so bad. We can't afford it, this is why I am hesitant and trying to find a clear sign. As I have said before, what makes it clear for you, may not make it clear for me and vice versa. I need my own kind of proof and it's got to be good. Of coure, plant goes right along with your calling me a rabbit, of course. She's suspected witchy and has been for a while throughout this game. Has that changed?

When did i become part of the King/Ogre/Charlie connection?

In case you hadn't noticed, Jpap and King are my two top suspects.
If Jpap is a witch, then i am going after ZS next. If Jpap is innocent, then Ogre is a witch.
And since you brought it up Ice:
A poem for Dangerdoll, by Charlie Stubbs
All because of a single word,
Whispered so low, i barely heard,
My heart, with joy, took wings and flew
Into your souls Infinite Blue
ahhhhhh..... I do so miss the attention
A poem for Charlie Stubbs, by Dangerdoll
I have wondered all the day,
just what made him look my way,
My heart, he's got it, doesn't he know
for where ever he is, is where I would go

Charlie daydreams about his beloved Dangerdoll while he chokes his chicken. Someday he hopes she will marry him and help him with this task. There is alot of chicken choking to be done here at Stubb's Chicken Farm. Charlie has heard that the witches of Acville can conjure a love potion. If he could get his hands on this, he could give it to DD, and they could live happily ever after. He re-doubles his efforts to find one.
While picking flowers, Doll's eyes peek over to Charlie as he chokes his chicken. He is so serious about his job, he sure would make a good husband. She can only imagine that if he were her husband, what a good provider he would be for her and the little Dolls and Stubbs. She thinks she's got to relieve the town of these witches once and for all so his focus can be on her again.... as it once was.

if you use the spell on KOTD, I will move my vote back to Jpap. If you use the spell on Ogre or DD, I will leave my vote on KOTD. If you use the spell on me, the next day i will vote for an innocent.
Do NOT use that spell on me or you will be turning me witchy. Trust me, please.
I will go with the consensus and vote for KOTD unless we can come up with a better candidate, however, I believe Pappy would be better.
I vote to burn King at the stake

OgreMkV
10-19-2007, 9:26 AM
I would rather you lynched me than used your spell on me. I can't speak for anything else.

If you choose to spell KOTD, then I would leave my vote or change to jpappy depending how the other votes fall.

plantling
10-19-2007, 9:53 AM
What?!?!? why do I seem suspicious?? If anything, I am doing my best to help the town. The confusion over who to vote for is just that. All my good feeling that I had for people being witchy are completely incorrect and I cannot put my finger on it. I am afraid to vote another townie because we are doing so bad. We can't afford it, this is why I am hesitant and trying to find a clear sign. As I have said before, what makes it clear for you, may not make it clear for me and vice versa. I need my own kind of proof and it's got to be good. Of coure, plant goes right along with your calling me a rabbit, of course. She's suspected witchy and has been for a while throughout this game. Has that changed?

Ummm DD, now I think you're really flustered or confused. It was Swayde that went along w/Ice about that rabbit thing.

Swayde
10-19-2007, 10:15 AM
Ummm DD, now I think you're really flustered or confused. It was Swayde that went along w/Ice about that rabbit thing.


DD tends to get innocent's names all mixed up when she's evil, since we're all the same to her.

Dangerdoll
10-19-2007, 10:24 AM
sorry, no. I was flustered and beside myself that I am even a suspicion. I meant sway.... and no, I am not mixed up on the players. I know who everyone is. I know who has appeared witchy. I think that once my name was mentioned, now the witches, seeing as this is an opportunity, are goign to seize it.... and try to turn the town against me. I am telling you guys, I promise you I am a townie. To rid of me will be a big mistake. If you feel I am witchy, fine but there are more that are more suspect than I am. At the very least, take them out first and you will see. Do not give these witches a new opportunity to tae out yet another townie.

Dangerdoll
10-19-2007, 10:25 AM
and for the record, I believe I mix up the names of folks in my rush to get a post out for when I am innocent more

plantling
10-19-2007, 10:47 AM
sorry, no. I was flustered and beside myself that I am even a suspicion. I meant sway.... and no, I am not mixed up on the players. I know who everyone is. I know who has appeared witchy. I think that once my name was mentioned, now the witches, seeing as this is an opportunity, are goign to seize it.... and try to turn the town against me. I am telling you guys, I promise you I am a townie. To rid of me will be a big mistake. If you feel I am witchy, fine but there are more that are more suspect than I am. At the very least, take them out first and you will see. Do not give these witches a new opportunity to tae out yet another townie.
I understood that you might have been confused about who to vote for and even after Ice's remark I still had you leaning innocent, if you saw my list. But your statement that I bolded above has me wondering who you think the witches are that are seizing this opportunity to turn the town against you. I merely pointed out your error, and was willing to chalk it up to being flustered.

Swayde
10-19-2007, 10:51 AM
I can't see how she would be flustered at all. She hasn't had a single vote against her the entire game.

Dangerdoll
10-19-2007, 10:53 AM
Bull, plant.....

Dangerdoll
10-19-2007, 10:55 AM
that is correct sway, because I've been doing my best to help when I could and now it's like all I did isreturned to me with a slap in the face.... sway, I am surprised at you really.... I had thought you were leaning innocent to... til now.

Dangerdoll
10-19-2007, 10:56 AM
plant, you say you were willing to chalk it up as me being flustered, then why even mention it then. Makes no sense. You talk in circles.

ZSandmann
10-19-2007, 10:58 AM
I have no feelings of Witchiness from DD. She is still a suspect along with everyone that is not known, but there are much better suspects.


Since most think KOTD is evil and I need to use my witch turning spell I'd like to use it on him. If we went that way how would your votes fall then?

If not turning KOTD should I turn DD, Ogre,Charlie?

This is an important day if we want to win. We need input from everyone.

My only fear is that KOTD is innocent and thats why the witches aren't on him. If I turned him he'd become one of them. Though he'd be as worthless to them as he is for us.

If KOTD is an innocent it would explain why the witches aren't on him, they can then pick apart the group sitting on KOTD as witches.

But they can just as easily not be on him trying to save him.

I think they are pushing Z/Jpap so we lose an innocent because they're afraid I'll turn KOTD and they'll be down 2 witches. They are hoping that someone on KOTD will jump ship to Z/Jpap.

You guys really need to discuss this today.

Judging from my work email its going to be another slow day so I should be home early. Not as early as yesterday but early none the less.

Ice, I am willing to follow you and DC, but I would really like to see us burn and turn Witches Today. I still don't see a case for pappy so I won't vote for him, but I am fine voting for King or Ogre. I voted King because that late vote screams Witch. And if we look at today he has not yet voted once again. I guess he wants to hold back and see if he can save a buddy again. Since almost all of us suspect him what has he got to lose by being so blatant.

plantling
10-19-2007, 10:59 AM
I wanted to see your reaction to an error you made. So now you think both Swayde and I are witches? Interesting...

Dangerdoll
10-19-2007, 11:18 AM
No, I am more inclinded to agree with people that plantling is suspect, yes. You are a surprise to me. I thought you innocent all along but the more you speak, the worse it gets.

Dangerdoll
10-19-2007, 11:20 AM
I mean sway..... the more she speaks, the more evil she looks. You though plant, you I am inclined to believe is witchy. Pardon again, the confusion over the names. Of course you would find it interesting. You are merely glad as you try to push the heat off of you. Tell me something plant, what have you done to help?

plantling
10-19-2007, 11:25 AM
Of coure, plant goes right along with your calling me a rabbit, of course. She's suspected witchy and has been for a while throughout this game. Has that changed?


No, I am more inclinded to agree with people that plantling is suspect, yes. You are a surprise to me. I thought you innocent all along but the more you speak, the worse it gets.

So which is it DD? You suspected me all along or you thought I was innocent all along. :confused:

Swayde
10-19-2007, 11:27 AM
that is correct sway, because I've been doing my best to help when I could and now it's like all I did isreturned to me with a slap in the face.... sway, I am surprised at you really.... I had thought you were leaning innocent to... til now.


That seems like a threat to me. Do you truly believe I am a witch? Why not burn me? Oh, because you know I am not a witch and it would fall on your head if you did.

Swayde
10-19-2007, 11:30 AM
I mean sway..... the more she speaks, the more evil she looks. You though plant, you I am inclined to believe is witchy. Pardon again, the confusion over the names. Of course you would find it interesting. You are merely glad as you try to push the heat off of you. Tell me something plant, what have you done to help?


What heat was on Plantling that she would need to push off onto you?

plantling
10-19-2007, 11:34 AM
I mean sway..... the more she speaks, the more evil she looks. You though plant, you I am inclined to believe is witchy. Pardon again, the confusion over the names. Of course you would find it interesting. You are merely glad as you try to push the heat off of you. Tell me something plant, what have you done to help?
DD, I believe you were trying to push the heat off yourself when Ice and Sway mentioned you. Then you mentioned me, "how come no one is looking at Plant?" How come you were not looking at me before there was any heat on you? As for helping, I have tried to say who I felt were witches and who I felt were innocent. It's not easy when you're not sure who is who. Where's your list?

Dangerdoll
10-19-2007, 1:38 PM
So which is it DD? You suspected me all along or you thought I was innocent all along. :confused:
no..... the heat was on you plant, some folks even had you on their list so stop even trying to twist it around.

my list of people has always been out there and I have never said for once I personally was suspect of you only that others were so try getting your facts straight before you try twisting things. You did just what someone evil would do, when people put you out as suspect, you slunk off to the corner and kept your mouth shut. You waited until the smoke cleared, didn't say a word so that no one would keep it on you.

You still have yet to show me where you helped. Anyone can lay out a list.... is that all you have done? And in that... how good was it. Did you list any of your coven on it?

ZSandmann
10-19-2007, 2:43 PM
Wow ladies, be calm. Hard to believe today is Friday, I'm working like it's a Monday :) Don't see any reason to change my vote right now, but I'll be keeping an eye on the thread for the rest of the day.

The votes as I have them
10/11 Votes – No Vote: King
6-King: Swayde (675) plantling (678) ZSandmann (689) jpappy (690) Charlie (779) DD (783)
3-Ogre: bluerat (713) Ice Ice (762)
1-Zsandmann: Ogre (656)
1-JPappy: Charlie (672) DC (767)
0-Bluerat: Ice Ice (687) DD (711)

Dangerdoll
10-19-2007, 3:25 PM
I unvote King and vote to burn Ogre

OgreMkV
10-19-2007, 4:05 PM
I will not vote for KOTD. I'm willing to let it be random. See my thoughts on KOTD below.

Please understand, I know my vote for KOTD will not clear me in anyone's eyes.

I think it is safe to say that the majority of the witches are on KOTD right now. If he is a witch, then those votes won't tell us much. If he is NOT a witch, then we have been well and truly had and we won't be able to tell very much.

With the majority of witches (indeed, the majority of everyone) on KOTD, I'm thinking he may be innocent. Why would the majority of witches vote for him, when there is another ready made target... me.

Scenarios:
1) KOTD - witch, Ogre - innocent :: Why would the witches vote for KOTD? There are only three voters on me right now (and DD was just a few minutes ago). I'm a ready made target, that most everyone agrees is a witch, so why put KOTD up for the lynch if he's a witch.

2) KOTD - witch, Ogre - witch :: same thing as above, except there is even a better reason to get the votes closer. Whoever voted for the lynch victim is probably going to be considered innocent.

3) KOTD - innocent, Ogre - witch :: Now, if I'm a witch, then the witches votes should all be for KOTD to protect me, but when he shows up innocent, then everyone involved will have some serious explaining to do. however, if it looks like no one will switch, then an additional vote my way might protect that witch (like what DD just did).

4) KOTD - innocent, Ogre - innocent :: This is the same as above, but the witches have it even worse. No matter what happens, there will be some serious explaining to do. Obviously, if KOTD is innocent, then the whole town is pretty much back to square one with trying to pick out the bad guys.

I think that the witches have backed themselves into a corner here. In the absence of a string town presence, they pushed for a target and everyone readily agreed. Now they are either going to lose one of their own (if KOTD is a witch) or everyone voting for him will be under intense scrutiny (if KOTD is innocent).

In reality (but I'm the only one that knows this is true) there are only two scenarios 1 and 4. Of those two, the only one that makes any sense from the witches perspective is 4.

I think we've been had and if the town survives the night, then we will be OK, because we will have a VERY good idea who the witches are.

charlie_stubbs
10-19-2007, 4:30 PM
I will not vote for KOTD. I'm willing to let it be random. See my thoughts on KOTD below.

Please understand, I know my vote for KOTD will not clear me in anyone's eyes.

I think it is safe to say that the majority of the witches are on KOTD right now. If he is a witch, then those votes won't tell us much. If he is NOT a witch, then we have been well and truly had and we won't be able to tell very much.

With the majority of witches (indeed, the majority of everyone) on KOTD, I'm thinking he may be innocent. Why would the majority of witches vote for him, when there is another ready made target... me.

Scenarios:
1) KOTD - witch, Ogre - innocent :: Why would the witches vote for KOTD? There are only three voters on me right now (and DD was just a few minutes ago). I'm a ready made target, that most everyone agrees is a witch, so why put KOTD up for the lynch if he's a witch.

2) KOTD - witch, Ogre - witch :: same thing as above, except there is even a better reason to get the votes closer. Whoever voted for the lynch victim is probably going to be considered innocent.

3) KOTD - innocent, Ogre - witch :: Now, if I'm a witch, then the witches votes should all be for KOTD to protect me, but when he shows up innocent, then everyone involved will have some serious explaining to do. however, if it looks like no one will switch, then an additional vote my way might protect that witch (like what DD just did).

4) KOTD - innocent, Ogre - innocent :: This is the same as above, but the witches have it even worse. No matter what happens, there will be some serious explaining to do. Obviously, if KOTD is innocent, then the whole town is pretty much back to square one with trying to pick out the bad guys.

I think that the witches have backed themselves into a corner here. In the absence of a string town presence, they pushed for a target and everyone readily agreed. Now they are either going to lose one of their own (if KOTD is a witch) or everyone voting for him will be under intense scrutiny (if KOTD is innocent).

In reality (but I'm the only one that knows this is true) there are only two scenarios 1 and 4. Of those two, the only one that makes any sense from the witches perspective is 4.

I think we've been had and if the town survives the night, then we will be OK, because we will have a VERY good idea who the witches are.
At the risk of us being "linked" again this is a good post. While I'm suspicious of KOTD, I was more comfortable with my vote on Jpap. Note Jpap has been quiet today, making me even more suspicious. But then again, KOTD hasnt made many posts today knowing full well the town is suspicious of him. Neither seems to be trying to hard to clear their names.

IceH2O
10-19-2007, 5:09 PM
I will not vote for KOTD. I'm willing to let it be random. See my thoughts on KOTD below.

Please understand, I know my vote for KOTD will not clear me in anyone's eyes.

I think it is safe to say that the majority of the witches are on KOTD right now. If he is a witch, then those votes won't tell us much. If he is NOT a witch, then we have been well and truly had and we won't be able to tell very much.

With the majority of witches (indeed, the majority of everyone) on KOTD, I'm thinking he may be innocent. Why would the majority of witches vote for him, when there is another ready made target... me.

Scenarios:
1) KOTD - witch, Ogre - innocent :: Why would the witches vote for KOTD? There are only three voters on me right now (and DD was just a few minutes ago). I'm a ready made target, that most everyone agrees is a witch, so why put KOTD up for the lynch if he's a witch.

2) KOTD - witch, Ogre - witch :: same thing as above, except there is even a better reason to get the votes closer. Whoever voted for the lynch victim is probably going to be considered innocent.

3) KOTD - innocent, Ogre - witch :: Now, if I'm a witch, then the witches votes should all be for KOTD to protect me, but when he shows up innocent, then everyone involved will have some serious explaining to do. however, if it looks like no one will switch, then an additional vote my way might protect that witch (like what DD just did).

4) KOTD - innocent, Ogre - innocent :: This is the same as above, but the witches have it even worse. No matter what happens, there will be some serious explaining to do. Obviously, if KOTD is innocent, then the whole town is pretty much back to square one with trying to pick out the bad guys.

I think that the witches have backed themselves into a corner here. In the absence of a string town presence, they pushed for a target and everyone readily agreed. Now they are either going to lose one of their own (if KOTD is a witch) or everyone voting for him will be under intense scrutiny (if KOTD is innocent).

In reality (but I'm the only one that knows this is true) there are only two scenarios 1 and 4. Of those two, the only one that makes any sense from the witches perspective is 4.

I think we've been had and if the town survives the night, then we will be OK, because we will have a VERY good idea who the witches are.

You forgot scenario 5

KOTD is witch, Ogre is witch

I figure 4 witches

1 on Z

1 on Ogre because with so many on KOTD its a safe vote.

1 on KOTD so when he shows witch they have some cover

1 hasn't voted yet.

IceH2O
10-19-2007, 5:10 PM
I unvote King and vote to burn Ogre

Can you explain? Its a vote with no explanation.

IceH2O
10-19-2007, 5:16 PM
The good thing here is I'll get to see if KOTD is witch or not before I need to send in the spell.

If KOTD is innocent I'm using the spell on Z or Jpap.

ZSandmann
10-19-2007, 5:34 PM
Hey just got in from work. Ogre you're trying too hard. You did the same thing the other day with your multiple scenarios and those didn't work out so well either. Today was quiet, I guess everyone just wants to see what happens tonight. I think we finally have the witches in a position to burn, and we can win this. The whole thing with DD today just seems like everyone is too tense about what's going to happen Tonight. Who knows for sure, it's similar to King's BKW - Brk snafu but I don't have Witchy feelings about DD this game. My vote is staying on King, Ice do what you have to do with the last spell but I hope my efforts have amounted to something and you can see I'm a Townie. I'm going to dinner with my wife so I'm going to miss Nightfall. I'll post when I get home. I'm really eager to see where King votes, I assume it will be for Ogre which currently would tie the votes.

Swayde
10-19-2007, 5:36 PM
Hey just got in from work. Ogre you're trying too hard. You did the same thing the other day with your multiple scenarios and those didn't work out so well either. Today was quiet, I guess everyone just wants to see what happens tonight. I think we finally have the witches in a position to burn, and we can win this. The whole thing with DD today just seems like everyone is too tense about what's going to happen Tonight. Who knows for sure, it's similar to King's BKW - Brk snafu but I don't have Witchy feelings about DD this game. My vote is staying on King, Ice do what you have to do with the last spell but I hope my efforts have amounted to something and you can see I'm a Townie. I'm going to dinner with my wife so I'm going to miss Nightfall. I'll post when I get home. I'm really eager to see where King votes, I assume it will be for Ogre which currently would tie the votes.


Actually according to my spreadsheet, if KoTD gets a vote in on Ogre, it would push Ogre to the lead and have him burned since Ice's vote counts double.

ZSandmann
10-19-2007, 5:42 PM
Hmmm is this what you've got?

5-King: Swayde (675) plantling (678) ZSandmann (689) jpappy (690) Charlie (779) DD (783)
4-Ogre: bluerat (713) Ice Ice (762) DD (804)

IceH2O
10-19-2007, 5:53 PM
Hmmm is this what you've got?

5-King: Swayde (675) plantling (678) ZSandmann (689) jpappy (690) Charlie (779) DD (783)
4-Ogre: bluerat (713) Ice Ice (762) DD (804)

:iagree:

Swayde
10-19-2007, 5:56 PM
Hmmm is this what you've got?

5-King: Swayde (675) plantling (678) ZSandmann (689) jpappy (690) Charlie (779) DD (783)
4-Ogre: bluerat (713) Ice Ice (762) DD (804)


Yeah I had my dang mouse cursor over Jpappy's vote and didn't notice it was on KoTD.

ZSandmann
10-19-2007, 5:59 PM
Well here's what will be so interesting. King outted himself by voting for Brk to save Ogre. Now it comes down to himself and Ogre. Will he cash it in on Ogre for a chance to save himself or will he throw away a vote and let himself be burned? OR I guess he could vote for himself, throw himself on the proverbial sword.

ZSandmann
10-19-2007, 6:00 PM
No worries Sway I figured it was a clerical error. :)

Swayde
10-19-2007, 6:01 PM
Well here's what will be so interesting. King outted himself by voting for Brk to save Ogre. Now it comes down to himself and Ogre. Will he cash it in on Ogre for a chance to save himself or will he throw away a vote and let himself be burned? OR I guess he could vote for himself, throw himself on the proverbial sword.


I'm very anxious for nightfall to see what's going to happen.

Swayde
10-19-2007, 6:01 PM
No worries Sway I figured it was a clerical error. :)


Sadly it wasn't though, more like a blind, blond moment lol.

IceH2O
10-19-2007, 6:08 PM
Well here's what will be so interesting. King outted himself by voting for Brk to save Ogre. Now it comes down to himself and Ogre. Will he cash it in on Ogre for a chance to save himself or will he throw away a vote and let himself be burned? OR I guess he could vote for himself, throw himself on the proverbial sword.

Well if he is innocent he would have to vote for Ogre to save himself and hope the random death goes to Ogre.

If he votes for himself even as a townie thats just stupid and anti town.

If he votes for himself and is a witch I'll still think he saved Ogre so Ogre is still witch IMO.

If he doesn't vote at all and dies a UD and is witch I still think its protection of Ogre.

If he is innocent I look at Z and Jpap. No matter how he dies.

OgreMkV
10-19-2007, 6:13 PM
Hey just got in from work. Ogre you're trying too hard. You did the same thing the other day with your multiple scenarios and those didn't work out so well either. Today was quiet, I guess everyone just wants to see what happens tonight. I think we finally have the witches in a position to burn, and we can win this. The whole thing with DD today just seems like everyone is too tense about what's going to happen Tonight. Who knows for sure, it's similar to King's BKW - Brk snafu but I don't have Witchy feelings about DD this game. My vote is staying on King, Ice do what you have to do with the last spell but I hope my efforts have amounted to something and you can see I'm a Townie. I'm going to dinner with my wife so I'm going to miss Nightfall. I'll post when I get home. I'm really eager to see where King votes, I assume it will be for Ogre which currently would tie the votes.

Since when is trying to figure things out trying too hard?

This must be first time Z has requested someone to not speak.

This may be reaching, but does Z seem awful defensive in this post. He hopes his efforts have amounted to something and that everyone will see he's a townie.

I think I'm the only one really questioning him, but it appears I may have hit a nerve.



Well here's what will be so interesting. King outted himself by voting for Brk to save Ogre. Now it comes down to himself and Ogre. Will he cash it in on Ogre for a chance to save himself or will he throw away a vote and let himself be burned? OR I guess he could vote for himself, throw himself on the proverbial sword.

Z, what are you talking about? You are assuming something that may or may not be true (in this case it isn't). I get jumped on when I do that.


Ice: I included the both of us being witches scenario. Did you just miss it?

Swayde
10-19-2007, 6:15 PM
Well if he is innocent he would have to vote for Ogre to save himself and hope the random death goes to Ogre.

If he votes for himself even as a townie thats just stupid and anti town.

If he votes for himself and is a witch I'll still think he saved Ogre so Ogre is still witch IMO.

If he doesn't vote at all and dies a UD and is witch I still think its protection of Ogre.

If he is innocent I look at Z and Jpap. No matter how he dies.


I do believe that one of Ogre and Z are witches....I just can't decide which one it is and it's making me very nervous.

ZSandmann
10-19-2007, 6:23 PM
Since when is trying to figure things out trying too hard?

This must be first time Z has requested someone to not speak.

This may be reaching, but does Z seem awful defensive in this post. He hopes his efforts have amounted to something and that everyone will see he's a townie.

I think I'm the only one really questioning him, but it appears I may have hit a nerve.

Z, what are you talking about? You are assuming something that may or may not be true (in this case it isn't). I get jumped on when I do that.

Ice: I included the both of us being witches scenario. Did you just miss it?
I didn't ask you not to speak, I said your complex conspiracy theories are just you throwing chum in the water. As far as being defensive, nopers, I just want Ice to have the best information available to help him with his choice after Night falls. I'm assuming you and King are Witches, this is completely true, guess you caught me. ;)

Rbishop
10-19-2007, 6:25 PM
To burn at the stake.....

ogre (3) by blue 713, ice 762, DD 804

kotd (5) by sway 675, plnt 678, zsand 689, jpap 690, cs 777

jpap (1) by DC 767

zsand (1) by ogre 656

10 of 11 folks voting....

Nightfall at 8 PM EST...in about 1 1/2 hrs.....

PM's as required, please.

ZSandmann
10-19-2007, 6:25 PM
Ok I'm being dragged, I'll think of all of you while I'm eating dinner. Does that depress anyone else?

Swayde
10-19-2007, 6:26 PM
Ice and DC...do ya'll think I should change my vote? I don't like the way things are looking and I just have a bad feeling.

IceH2O
10-19-2007, 6:41 PM
To who are you thinking of switching?

Swayde
10-19-2007, 6:41 PM
To who are you thinking of switching?


Ogre

plantling
10-19-2007, 6:42 PM
*sigh* I so dislike the last hours before nightfall. King's silence is making me uneasy. Is he going to show up just right before nightfall again? I have to go cook dinner in a bit but I wanted to at least hear something from him.

Swayde
10-19-2007, 6:43 PM
It bothers me that Ogre doesn't vote for KoTD, okay fine I am starting to have doubts there too, but why go onto Z when he's the only one when he could have followed DC onto Jpappy.

IceH2O
10-19-2007, 6:46 PM
Sure jump off KOTD, that will tie it back up and KOTD will vote Ogre to save himself or vote for himself to save Ogre or waste a vote.

Swayde
10-19-2007, 6:48 PM
I retract my vote for KoTD and vote to burn Ogre at the stake.

IceH2O
10-19-2007, 6:50 PM
It bothers me that Ogre doesn't vote for KoTD, okay fine I am starting to have doubts there too, but why go onto Z when he's the only one when he could have followed DC onto Jpappy.


Right, if he thinks Jpap is witch with Z then why not vote Jpap and with DC there it would only have taken a couple of votes, on Z his vote is wasted IMO.

Swayde
10-19-2007, 6:52 PM
Right, if he thinks Jpap is witch with Z then why not vote Jpap and with DC there it would only have taken a couple of votes, on Z his vote is wasted IMO.


That's the way I see it as well.

OgreMkV
10-19-2007, 6:52 PM
I didn't ask you not to speak, I said your complex conspiracy theories are just you throwing chum in the water. As far as being defensive, nopers, I just want Ice to have the best information available to help him with his choice after Night falls. I'm assuming you and King are Witches, this is completely true, guess you caught me. ;)

It's not a conspiracy theory.

!) That's what the game is all about (BTW: That's twice I've had to remind you about what the game is about.)

2) It's based on logical reasoning, not opinion or made up facts.

Swayde
10-19-2007, 6:55 PM
It's not a conspiracy theory.

!) That's what the game is all about (BTW: That's twice I've had to remind you about what the game is about.)

2) It's based on logical reasoning, not opinion or made up facts.


I disagree with you on #2. Yes you need to be logical, but my instincts and opinions tend to be a whole lot better than my brains at this game :P

IceH2O
10-19-2007, 7:00 PM
Did Bkr die because of an untimely death or because he lost his life thru the random vote.

I'm thinking he lost the random. Thats why he was burned. If Ogre had lost he would be dead and then Brk would have died.

If KOTD doesn't show hopefully Ogre loses the random and is burned and KOTD dies due to UD. Maybe we will get 2 witches after all.

IceH2O
10-19-2007, 7:01 PM
I disagree with you on #2. Yes you need to be logical, but my instincts and opinions tend to be a whole lot better than my brains at this game :P

I agree, sometimes its just something you can see but can't explain to others.

Rbishop
10-19-2007, 7:02 PM
about one hour to go....

OgreMkV
10-19-2007, 7:07 PM
Will anyone follow me if I switch to jpappy?

Swayde
10-19-2007, 7:09 PM
Dinner is ready. I feel better about my vote on Ogre, I don't know if I will be back before nightfall, so crossing my fingers it all works out well for us.

OgreMkV
10-19-2007, 7:12 PM
Nope.

OgreMkV
10-19-2007, 7:13 PM
Wait! Sway are you the other witch? You're switching to me to get off the KOTD train because you know he's innocent. That way you are spared.

If I don't make it, the witches are the following:
Z
jpappy
sway
dd (probably)

The fifth (if there is one) I don't know.

IceH2O
10-19-2007, 7:13 PM
Probably not now but maybe if you had voted it earlier. You already had charlie and DC you would have made it 3. Nice train start.

I so want to say something here but its a scenario that would help the witches so I'm not going to post it and help them.

IceH2O
10-19-2007, 7:15 PM
Wait! Sway are you the other witch? You're switching to me to get off the KOTD train because you know he's innocent. That way you are spared.

If I don't make it, the witches are the following:
Z
jpappy
sway
dd (probably)

The fifth (if there is one) I don't know.

I could actually see that, almost. Can't say the feeling wasn't there at some time.

Guess you're the guinea pig for tonights litmus test. If you're witch though you just cemented DD.

Dangerdoll
10-19-2007, 7:57 PM
Can you explain? Its a vote with no explanation.
I feel better voting ogre tonight. I figure there are votes on him, which do I feel stronger about, Ogre.

Hey just got in from work. Ogre you're trying too hard. You did the same thing the other day with your multiple scenarios and those didn't work out so well either. Today was quiet, I guess everyone just wants to see what happens tonight. I think we finally have the witches in a position to burn, and we can win this. The whole thing with DD today just seems like everyone is too tense about what's going to happen Tonight. Who knows for sure, it's similar to King's BKW - Brk snafu but I don't have Witchy feelings about DD this game. My vote is staying on King, Ice do what you have to do with the last spell but I hope my efforts have amounted to something and you can see I'm a Townie. I'm going to dinner with my wife so I'm going to miss Nightfall. I'll post when I get home. I'm really eager to see where King votes, I assume it will be for Ogre which currently would tie the votes.
You might be right with the tensions, Z... it's extremely frustrating how everyone is being led around yet we have gotten no witches.

Wait! Sway are you the other witch? You're switching to me to get off the KOTD train because you know he's innocent. That way you are spared.

If I don't make it, the witches are the following:
Z
jpappy
sway
dd (probably)

The fifth (if there is one) I don't know.

DD probably? Why's that? Because I voted for you?


I could actually see that, almost. Can't say the feeling wasn't there at some time.

Guess you're the guinea pig for tonights litmus test. If you're witch though you just cemented DD.
cemented me how??

Rbishop
10-19-2007, 8:01 PM
It is night.....

Rbishop
10-19-2007, 8:06 PM
The group of Townies meet at the Square, having already bound and gagged their victim. Surely they will burn a Witch tonight!

The victim is tied to the statue and wood, then kindling piled high...a bit of gas to get things off to a quick start....

A match is thrown, from in back of the crowd....and the screams begin....

Ogre passes from ACville.....

Rbishop
10-19-2007, 8:08 PM
Ogre was just an Innocent Townie...

Rbishop
10-19-2007, 8:14 PM
The screams haven't even eased much, and the Innocents scramble for the safety of their homes. They know what comes next....

The coven snap their fingers and instantly change to their flying dress...and off into the night they go.

They circle the home, chanting their words of death as they spiral ever downward, passing thru the roof as if it wasn't there.

Screams can be heard for a brief moment then silence. If anyone was out and about, a glimpse in the window would reveal a dried shriveled body...

..it once was Deputy Chief, the Herbalist....but you wouldn't recognize him now.

Rbishop
10-19-2007, 8:21 PM
A Townie has not stepped forward to help in today's activity...

KOTD is seen heading down the road that leaves ACville.

A bit of Blue Mist from times past envelops him, and he dissolves in agony.

There isn't even a stain left on the road, he is just gone.


KOTD was an Innocent Townie...

Rbishop
10-19-2007, 8:23 PM
Game On.....

If the remaining 8 players would like to switch to a 24 hour day, approximately, with Nightfall at 9 PMEST tomorrow, let me know....

IceH2O
10-19-2007, 8:27 PM
:jaw:



So it must be 4-4. I'm using the spell on Z so lets lynch Jpap.


I think DD is also witch. The 4th witch Charlie.

Swayde
10-19-2007, 8:29 PM
24 hours, yes please.

So Ogre and KoTD were both Innocents, I did not expect to see that at all...Ice, what do you think of that? You're the only person who I feel like I can trust right now. I think the case of Z and Jpap is looking pretty good right now. I'm not sure where to go looking after that. I think DD is a good 3rd. Maybe CS as a 4th, dunno about him.

I know my credibility is probably in the crapper. I've promised I am not the High Priest, which would be the only thing I could possibly be although than a townie. Believe me if you will, or don't, but I do ask that we at least make an effort to find a real witch because we can't afford to burn any more innocents.

I vote to burn Zsandman at the stake...on behalf of the late Ogre.

IceH2O
10-19-2007, 8:29 PM
The innocents need to stick together. We need all our votes on 1 person, they can tie us and leave the game to a random kill.

Swayde
10-19-2007, 8:30 PM
We were posting at the same time Ice. I will move my vote to Jpappy, I think both are witches, and it seems we are of like minds.

I retract my vote on Zsadnman and vote to burn Jpappy at the stake.

charlie_stubbs
10-19-2007, 8:34 PM
here is my newly revised suspect list, in order:
jpap
ZS
Sway
blue
plantling
DD

Swayde
10-19-2007, 8:36 PM
here is my newly revised suspect list, in order:
jpap
ZS
Sway
blue
plantling
DD


So you think I am the High Priest?

charlie_stubbs
10-19-2007, 8:37 PM
:jaw:



So it must be 4-4. I'm using the spell on Z so lets lynch Jpap.


I think DD is also witch. The 4th witch Charlie.
It has to be 4-4. If Z is a witch (most likely) then its 5 townies to 3 witches. If you are wrong they will win. I hope you are right.

charlie_stubbs
10-19-2007, 8:37 PM
So you think I am the High Priest?
yes

Swayde
10-19-2007, 8:39 PM
yes


I'm flattered, but you are wrong.

charlie_stubbs
10-19-2007, 8:43 PM
I'm flattered, but you are wrong.
well, i thought KOTD was definately a witch, so i am willing to accept i might be wrong. Truth is, i don't know whats going on and i'm embarrased to say i feel like everyone is fooling me. Since Ice is the only definate innocent, i will do precisely what he says to do.
I vote to burn Jpap.
I should have left my vote here two days ago.

charlie_stubbs
10-19-2007, 8:52 PM
so if we're still alive, can it be assumed ZS was a witch???

Dangerdoll
10-19-2007, 8:54 PM
:jaw:
So it must be 4-4. I'm using the spell on Z so lets lynch Jpap.


I think DD is also witch. The 4th witch Charlie.
unfortunately, I cannot speak for Charlie but you are wrong about me! My God we are being sweeped big time! Why do you think I am witchy??? Tell me what about last night tells you that?

Dangerdoll
10-19-2007, 8:55 PM
Charlie?

charlie_stubbs
10-19-2007, 8:56 PM
Charlie?
yes my dear

IceH2O
10-19-2007, 8:56 PM
so if we're still alive, can it be assumed ZS was a witch???

No

Nothing takes place until night fall, my votes didn't count till nightfall and neither did my not allowed to vote spell.

I didn't put the spell on Z, I wanted to see how he tried to talk his way out. I used it on someone else but I'll tell you who later. I want to see how they play today.

Dangerdoll
10-19-2007, 8:57 PM
yes my dear
Charlie, are you safe?

charlie_stubbs
10-19-2007, 8:57 PM
unfortunately, I cannot speak for Charlie but you are wrong about me! My God we are being sweeped big time! Why do you think I am witchy??? Tell me what about last night tells you that?
I dont think your witchy DD. Your posts have been pro town IMO.

charlie_stubbs
10-19-2007, 8:58 PM
Charlie, are you safe?
I'm not a witch DD, i think its Jpap, Zs, Sway.

Dangerdoll
10-19-2007, 9:01 PM
Thank you Charlie for seeing me for who I am.

I vote to burn Pappy...

I think you show a good list for the record, we should have voted pappy long ago.... and I am becoming increasingly suspicious due tot he past days events of sway and Z.

Swayde
10-19-2007, 9:01 PM
I'm not a witch DD, i think its Jpap, Zs, Sway.

I'm sure it is Z and Jpap, but it's not me. Why do you think there are only 3 witches?

You don't see a problem with DD getting innocents all mixed up? You don't see a problem with her accusing Plantling of shifting heat off of her onto DD, which there was no heat on Plant? You don't think it's fishy that DD got so flustered that she couldn't even type straight and keep names straight because someone brought up her name as a possible suspect, when there was not even any votes on her?

Dangerdoll
10-19-2007, 9:01 PM
yes my dear


I'm not a witch DD, i think its Jpap, Zs, Sway.
for the record, I am trusting you, Charlie. I hope I am right but I do know I am tired of being led around by these witches.

Swayde
10-19-2007, 9:04 PM
for the record, I am trusting you, Charlie. I hope I am right but I do know I am tired of being led around by these witches.


That looks a lot like backpeddling, distancing and some good old fashioned CYA...cover your, umm rear.

Dangerdoll
10-19-2007, 9:04 PM
I'm sure it is Z and Jpap, but it's not me. Why do you think there are only 3 witches?

You don't see a problem with DD getting innocents all mixed up? You don't see a problem with her accusing Plantling of shifting heat off of her onto DD, which there was no heat on Plant? You don't think it's fishy that DD got so flustered that she couldn't even type straight and keep names straight because someone brought up her name as a possible suspect, when there was not even any votes on her?
How in the world does getting people mixed up mean I am witchy? Stop trying to justify an honest mistake, sway. And as for Plant, people suspected her early on so how are you gonna say the heat was not on her???

charlie_stubbs
10-19-2007, 9:05 PM
No

Nothing takes place until night fall, my votes didn't count till nightfall and neither did my not allowed to vote spell.

I didn't put the spell on Z, I wanted to see how he tried to talk his way out. I used it on someone else but I'll tell you who later. I want to see how they play today.
I don't envy you having to make such an important choice. Also, as the only confirmed townie i think we are all hoping your going to save us. If you made the right choice, you've given us a good chance to come back from this. If you didn't we're all but screwed

IceH2O
10-19-2007, 9:05 PM
Why DD?

I figure it didn't matter which innocent you were on. You saw me on Blue thats already 2 votes you make it 3 and a mini train.

I pull off you are alone and jump to KOTD the new train. Its getting late and KOTD hasn't shown to vote. So just in case he doesn't now you can get 2 innocents tonight instead of 1. You switch to Ogre which makes it 5-4 KOTD. Then Sway switches and Ogre loses hmm..

Z
Jpap
Sway
DD

guys?

Dangerdoll
10-19-2007, 9:05 PM
That looks a lot like backpeddling, distancing and some good old fashioned CYA...cover your, umm rear.


interesting how you are grasping at straws here, Sway...

charlie_stubbs
10-19-2007, 9:08 PM
I'm sure it is Z and Jpap, but it's not me. Why do you think there are only 3 witches?

You don't see a problem with DD getting innocents all mixed up? You don't see a problem with her accusing Plantling of shifting heat off of her onto DD, which there was no heat on Plant? You don't think it's fishy that DD got so flustered that she couldn't even type straight and keep names straight because someone brought up her name as a possible suspect, when there was not even any votes on her?
I know there are 4, but to be honest Jpap and Z are the only ones i am fairly certain of. I'm on the fence with you and have no clue as to the fourth

Swayde
10-19-2007, 9:08 PM
All right, you guys think I am the High Priest...vote for me, let's get this game over with. I for one am beyond frustrated. I like to win, I play to win, I have not given this game my best effort due to distractions and I am ready for it to be over with.

So put your money where you mouth is. Vote for the High Priest, go ahead, why waste time going after the small fish? Ice will be killed tonight, and then the witches can easily turn the rest of the town against me and win the game. So why prolong it?

Dangerdoll
10-19-2007, 9:10 PM
Why DD?

I figure it didn't matter which innocent you were on. You saw me on Blue thats already 2 votes you make it 3 and a mini train.

I pull off you are alone and jump to KOTD the new train. Its getting late and KOTD hasn't shown to vote. So just in case he doesn't now you can get 2 innocents tonight instead of 1. You switch to Ogre which makes it 5-4 KOTD. Then Sway switches and Ogre loses hmm..

Z
Jpap
Sway
DD

guys?
wait a minute. I pulled off of him because I didn't want my vote to be wasted AS IS a normal accusation in these games. You mean to tell me if I had stayed, you would have thought I was innocent? Yeah, ok

I switched to Ogre because I didn'/t thin k Kotd was witchy or at least I didnt think he was AS witchy and saw that there were votes on him. It is Sway that voted late. This coming from someone who is accusing me of being confused. And it should also be noted that King was innocent too. Either way, I would be accused. If you think I am a witch, I am telling you again, you are wrong. I am innocent. I know it's a tired plea used by many times by the evils but I am telling the honest truth.

charlie_stubbs
10-19-2007, 9:11 PM
Why DD?

I figure it didn't matter which innocent you were on. You saw me on Blue thats already 2 votes you make it 3 and a mini train.

I pull off you are alone and jump to KOTD the new train. Its getting late and KOTD hasn't shown to vote. So just in case he doesn't now you can get 2 innocents tonight instead of 1. You switch to Ogre which makes it 5-4 KOTD. Then Sway switches and Ogre loses hmm..

Z
Jpap
Sway
DD

guys?
To be honest, maybe I'm blinded by my feelings, but i have a hard time seeing DD as witchy. Her posts have been more helpful this game than in any others IMO.

Rbishop
10-19-2007, 9:12 PM
Spell #2 has been cast.....

A player is now no longer what they were....any illusion to the conversion in the thread will end the game...the player is now on the side opposite of what they were, and will play as such.....

Game Nightfall for Day 4 will be at 9 PM EST, Saturday, 10/20

IceH2O
10-19-2007, 9:12 PM
Let me run scenarios in my head. I'm going to watch this movie with the wife and kids called Wind Chill.

Swayde
10-19-2007, 9:13 PM
wait a minute. I pulled off of him because I didn't want my vote to be wasted AS IS a normal accusation in these games. You mean to tell me if I had stayed, you would have thought I was innocent? Yeah, ok

I switched to Ogre because I didn'/t thin k Kotd was witchy or at least I didnt think he was AS witchy and saw that there were votes on him. It is Sway that voted late. This coming from someone who is accusing me of being confused. And it should also be noted that King was innocent too. Either way, I would be accused. If you think I am a witch, I am telling you again, you are wrong. I am innocent. I know it's a tired plea used by many times by the evils but I am telling the honest truth.


Vote for me witch. End the game. You can burn me and kill Ice and you guys win. Good game. You guys played very well. CS will back you up and I bet Jpap and Zsand would love to be all over me too. Heck you might even be able to fool someone else into following you guys.

Dangerdoll
10-19-2007, 9:17 PM
swayde, if it wasn't so late and we weren't sucking so bad, I would vote on you in a heartbeat. Fact is though, I just ain't sure. But keep talking, you're really helping me weigh my thoughts.

Dangerdoll
10-19-2007, 9:17 PM
To be honest, maybe I'm blinded by my feelings, but i have a hard time seeing DD as witchy. Her posts have been more helpful this game than in any others IMO.
Charlie, I am telling you the honest truth. I am not a witch. I promise you that.

Swayde
10-19-2007, 9:21 PM
swayde, if it wasn't so late and we weren't sucking so bad, I would vote on you in a heartbeat. Fact is though, I just ain't sure. But keep talking, you're really helping me weigh my thoughts.


Likewise. Sorry to disappoint you though. I am going to play WoW with my husband, so I won't be posting any more for awhile, possibly even until I wake up tomorrow. If people can't see from my posts that I am innocent, then they should just burn me, that includes you, but I am sure you already know that I am innocent, just like I know that I am not the High Priest.

Dangerdoll
10-19-2007, 9:23 PM
Likewise. Sorry to disappoint you though. I am going to play WoW with my husband, so I won't be posting any more for awhile, possibly even until I wake up tomorrow. If people can't see from my posts that I am innocent, then they should just burn me, that includes you, but I am sure you already know that I am innocent, just like I know that I am not the High Priest.

I never said anything about that, Charlie did..... paranoid?

plantling
10-19-2007, 9:51 PM
ARGH! This is so disasterous! Ice, I trust what you say, but we need to be very careful from here on out.

I vote to burn Jpappy.

I'm going to go do some rereading of posts.

bluerat
10-19-2007, 10:03 PM
omg so much has happened since this morning.is taken a while to catch up on all the posts ,that will teach me to go out on a friday night.
i was sure ogre was a witch to see that he was not was a shock to say the least. well it is now 3am and im tired and i will be going to bed. i will post more when wake

ZSandmann
10-19-2007, 10:32 PM
Sorry King, you should have posted more man. I guess I was wrong about Ogre, too. Please don't use the spell on me Ice, the witch's will gain another townie, but I suppose I've lost much credibility. I still have faith in you though and I now see that you may be right about jpappy.

I vote to burn Jpappy at the stake.

plantling
10-19-2007, 10:44 PM
bluerat, you should go ahead and post your vote for Jpappy when you get a chance.

Swayde
10-19-2007, 11:22 PM
I never said anything about that, Charlie did..... paranoid?


Skim much? I am paranoid...There are still a full force of witches, unless Ice's spell was on target. I've been fooled by several people. So yes, I am paraniod, but you know what DD, unless you haven't been reading the posts, if you don't believe I am innocent then the only thing I could be is the High Priest...hellllooooo mcfly....Sploke/DC investigated me on Night 1 and I came back Innocent :hi: So if you suspect I am a witch, then I'd have to be the High Priest, but I am not, but I am pretty sure you knew that already.

Swayde
10-19-2007, 11:22 PM
Sorry King, you should have posted more man. I guess I was wrong about Ogre, too. Please don't use the spell on me Ice, the witch's will gain another townie, but I suppose I've lost much credibility. I still have faith in you though and I now see that you may be right about jpappy.

I vote to burn Jpappy at the stake.


Post #882, the spell has already been used and is in effect.

Dangerdoll
10-19-2007, 11:35 PM
While I am busy wondering what I did to make the others think I am witchy and trying to show them I am not, and never have been, you come out with that defense. I never even mentioned it, seems as you just threw it out there and uncharacteristically so because still, I never mentioned it and it was me who you were responding it to... why would you say that to me in the first place. Yesm it was said earlier but by others. Not me. I can't say I haven't wondered though.

why aren't you accusing Z of skimming too, sway?

IceH2O
10-20-2007, 12:13 AM
Ok that movie sucked so bad it put me to sleep on the couch.

I'm to tired to continue tonight. We'll tackle this tomorrow.

I'm ok with 24 hours if everyone else is.

jpappy789
10-20-2007, 12:23 AM
I can see all the witches choosing me as an easy vote to win the game. Fine. If the townies want to follow I will not get all defensive because you have a right to vote for me. I was wrong about Ogre. I was wrong about KOTD. Heck, I have been wrong about everyone I have mentioned. But if the numbers somehow work out where after I am gone the town is still hanging on I think the witches are Chas, DD, and Zs. Possibly plant if 4 and very unlikely Blue if 5.

I vote to lynch Charlie but my vote makes no difference today. This is probably my last post...unless I feel like trying to convince you guys otherwise but I don't really want to take all the effort because it will be useless...

Swayde
10-20-2007, 12:29 AM
Thank you Charlie for seeing me for who I am.

I vote to burn Pappy...

I think you show a good list for the record, we should have voted pappy long ago.... and I am becoming increasingly suspicious due tot he past days events of sway and Z.


While I am busy wondering what I did to make the others think I am witchy and trying to show them I am not, and never have been, you come out with that defense. I never even mentioned it, seems as you just threw it out there and uncharacteristically so because still, I never mentioned it and it was me who you were responding it to... why would you say that to me in the first place. Yesm it was said earlier but by others. Not me. I can't say I haven't wondered though.

why aren't you accusing Z of skimming too, sway?


You say you are becoming suspicious of me. I was investigated and showed up as INNOCENT which means 1 of 2 things... Either I am a Townie or I am the High Priest...take your pick. I can't be just plain old witch, if I was, then RB screwed up and/or DC/Sploke lied. So don't sit there and say you never mentioned it, becasue if you are suspicious of me and believe me to be a witch, then I'd have to be the High Priest...connect the dots.

Dangerdoll
10-20-2007, 12:35 AM
I never mentioned it once. I merely said I suspected you. I never said you were specifically high p, witch, whatever. But you don't need to explain or justify anything to me. It's just getting worse as you try to squirm out of it.

Swayde
10-20-2007, 12:37 AM
Oh and as to the question of why I am not accusing Z of skimming... I didn't think it was necessary. I pointed out the post he clearly didn't read or didn't pay attention to and I am pretty sure he's a witch and everyone else suspects him too, so it just seemed redudant and not needed.

Swayde
10-20-2007, 12:40 AM
I never mentioned it once. I merely said I suspected you. I never said you were specifically high p, witch, whatever. But you don't need to explain or justify anything to me. It's just getting worse as you try to squirm out of it.


So what exactly are you suspicious of me for? Your argument is totally illogical. If your a townie, and you are suspicious of me, then you must believe I am a witch, if you believe I am a witch than logically I'd have to be the High Priest because it's impossible for me to be a regular witch. You don't have to specifically say anything. Being wishy washy is how you get by without drawing too much attention to yourself. Being aggressive is how you bully people off you. I am not backing down. I am a townie and I believe you are a witch.

IceH2O
10-20-2007, 8:13 AM
Spell #2 has been cast.....

A player is now no longer what they were....any illusion to the conversion in the thread will end the game...the player is now on the side opposite of what they were, and will play as such.....

Game Nightfall for Day 4 will be at 9 PM EST, Saturday, 10/20

Ok I should have just said who I used the spell on but now I'm not allowed via PM from Rb.

I won't be voting for Jpap today though.

I've been noticing a lot of confused, broken witch meter, been terrible at this game, useless this game type posts.

When I get the chance I will go through all of them and give you my final list as I should be gone tonight, still a chance I stay since I'm just a normal townie now but being a known innocent hurts me.

I'm cool with 24 hours, are you guys?

charlie_stubbs
10-20-2007, 8:23 AM
Ok I should have just said who I used the spell on but now I'm not allowed via PM from Rb.

I won't be voting for Jpap today though.

I've been noticing a lot of confused, broken witch meter, been terrible at this game, useless this game type posts.

When I get the chance I will go through all of them and give you my final list as I should be gone tonight, still a chance I stay since I'm just a normal townie now but being a known innocent hurts me.

I'm cool with 24 hours, are you guys?
I vote for 24 hour days

bluerat
10-20-2007, 9:11 AM
im fine with the 24hr day
i vote for 24hr days

plantling
10-20-2007, 9:49 AM
24 hours are fine w/me also. I will hear what you have to say, Ice

IceH2O
10-20-2007, 9:50 AM
I'm not voting Jpap, to many people jumped on him to quick. Obvious witches there. I'm concentrating on a team of Sway (HP) and DD.

To many confused posts and the fight I believe to be distancing.

My witch list is in no order

Z
DD
Sway
Blue

Charlie is the only one from that spell still alive, all the others were innocent so he has to be also IMO.

I also think that with the early innocent clearance Sway has been able to play us. She voted for DC night 1 Ogre night 2 and Night 3

For now unless I see something different

I vote to burn Sway the HP at the stake.

I hope she makes pretty colors when she burns. Like a firework grand finale!

bluerat
10-20-2007, 9:58 AM
well i disagree i do think its jpap , dd has not changed her play at all she gets challenged she attacks back, and she is doing the same with swayde as she did with me, my gut feeling is that swayde is innocent .and that makes me more convinced that it is jpap he has changed his style it resembles that of ogres, i got him wrong, but if jpap has used this style to try and deflect the votes then i think it has / will backfire on him
i vote burn jpap

IceH2O
10-20-2007, 9:59 AM
Also the Rat cat bat spell I believe were clues

Rat- Blue

Cat- Z

Bat- DD

Sway was the invisible spell which was the HP spell.

What do the innocents think?

plantling
10-20-2007, 10:02 AM
I need some time to process all this information, Ice. I too thought Swayde was innocent. Perhaps Jp is the high priest? He was all over Sploke and DC. Then Ogre. Hmmmm...

Rbishop
10-20-2007, 10:15 AM
6 votes on jpap....

1 vote on swayde....

1 vote on charlie....

all have voted...

Dangerdoll
10-20-2007, 11:05 AM
So what exactly are you suspicious of me for? Your argument is totally illogical. If your a townie, and you are suspicious of me, then you must believe I am a witch, if you believe I am a witch than logically I'd have to be the High Priest because it's impossible for me to be a regular witch. You don't have to specifically say anything. Being wishy washy is how you get by without drawing too much attention to yourself. Being aggressive is how you bully people off you. I am not backing down. I am a townie and I believe you are a witch.
swayde, it's realy not all as complicated as you might like it to be. Simple fact is, I never mentioned it once during the whole game. Why would you use it as a defense to me. It's not whether I think you are HP or not.

oh and funny how you use those two sentences in your explanation again of how I must be "illogical"...


Also the Rat cat bat spell I believe were clues

Rat- Blue

Cat- Z

Bat- DD

Sway was the invisible spell which was the HP spell.

What do the innocents think?
Ice, straight out, I am not a witch. If any of the clues were intentional of anything, the bat was incorrect on me. But, do what you have to do. I understand your suspicion.

Dangerdoll
10-20-2007, 11:06 AM
24 hours is good for me

Swayde
10-20-2007, 11:22 AM
I'm not voting Jpap, to many people jumped on him to quick. Obvious witches there. I'm concentrating on a team of Sway (HP) and DD.

To many confused posts and the fight I believe to be distancing.

My witch list is in no order

Z
DD
Sway
Blue

Charlie is the only one from that spell still alive, all the others were innocent so he has to be also IMO.

I also think that with the early innocent clearance Sway has been able to play us. She voted for DC night 1 Ogre night 2 and Night 3

For now unless I see something different

I vote to burn Sway the HP at the stake.

I hope she makes pretty colors when she burns. Like a firework grand finale!

I am assuming that you used the spell on Jpappy and that's why you've changed your mind about him. I don't know why you've turned on me and believe I am a witch, but so be it. If Jpappy is not a witch, then it's Z, DD and probably CS. I am a townie, most definitely not the High Priest, but what does it matter. We have not managed to burn a witch yet, so might as well burn me and be done with it. Give the witches a sweeping victory and move on to the next game. Even RB must be feeling this game is close to it's end since he's posted the sign up for the next game already.

I retract my vote on Jpappy and vote to burn Zsandman at the stake.

ZSandmann
10-20-2007, 11:42 AM
On a camping trip, can't post much from mobile phone.

Wow, you've got me all wrong Ice and Sway. Sorry I can't go into details.

I'm ok w/24 Hours.

IceH2O
10-20-2007, 11:43 AM
You know what Sway. I believe you.

I messed up and had 4 witches listed, one was turned last night so there can't be 4. My list should have read

Z
Blue
then DD/ Sway?

Only 3 can be witches

The clues fit Z DD and Blue

I'll probably switch to Z since he is the only known witch but for now to get a suspect list for the remaining days

I retract my vote on Sway and vote to burn DD

IceH2O
10-20-2007, 11:46 AM
On a camping trip, can't post much from mobile phone.

Wow, you've got me all wrong Ice and Sway. Sorry I can't go into details.

I'm ok w/24 Hours.

Camping trip or a Coven ritual trip? Any special spells going to be cast into that fire tonight?

charlie_stubbs
10-20-2007, 1:43 PM
I can see all the witches choosing me as an easy vote to win the game. Fine. If the townies want to follow I will not get all defensive because you have a right to vote for me. I was wrong about Ogre. I was wrong about KOTD. Heck, I have been wrong about everyone I have mentioned. But if the numbers somehow work out where after I am gone the town is still hanging on I think the witches are Chas, DD, and Zs. Possibly plant if 4 and very unlikely Blue if 5.

I vote to lynch Charlie but my vote makes no difference today. This is probably my last post...unless I feel like trying to convince you guys otherwise but I don't really want to take all the effort because it will be useless...
What have you lost your mind??? I am as pure as the driven snow. Your vote for Charlie is a clear indication of your guilt, at least to me. Shame on you Jpap for trying to sully my good character. :nono: A pox on your home, my warty friend

Dangerdoll
10-20-2007, 1:44 PM
You know what Sway. I believe you.

I messed up and had 4 witches listed, one was turned last night so there can't be 4. My list should have read

Z
Blue
then DD/ Sway?

Only 3 can be witches

The clues fit Z DD and Blue

I'll probably switch to Z since he is the only known witch but for now to get a suspect list for the remaining days

I retract my vote on Sway and vote to burn DD

what can I say...,. my oh my is your witch meter odd.... goodness.... I am too exhausted trying to tell you guys I am no witch.... to vote for me is to throw in the towel.....

I am retracting my vote to pappy and voting to burn swayde at the stake. I believe if we thik Sway is the HP, we should vote her oce and for all..... (sway, I just mentioned you as HP, you can reiterate your argument now)

Dangerdoll
10-20-2007, 1:46 PM
charlie.... do you think I should stay on sway or keep on pappy? which do you think is better? I am not sure if pappy could be more hp than sway..... your call, dear....

charlie_stubbs
10-20-2007, 1:50 PM
charlie.... do you think I should stay on sway or keep on pappy? which do you think is better? I am not sure if pappy could be more hp than sway..... your call, dear....
hmmmmm Jpap and sway are clearly both witches and ought to be ashamed of themselves. I say vote Jpap. He clearly is trying to kick our Bala statue right in it's stone balls. Tisk tisk, you two evil scumbags almost pulled it off

Dangerdoll
10-20-2007, 2:05 PM
ok Charlie...

I am retracting my vote to Swayde and voting to burn pappy again at the stake.

IceH2O
10-20-2007, 2:37 PM
Jpap is the wrong vote guys.

I know who is innocent beyond a doubt in my mind.

Ice
Charlie
Jpap

I'm not so sure about

Z
DD
Sway
Blue
Plantling


in that order.

The late fight, they both switched off KOTD to Ogre when time was running out. If they stayed on KOTD he goes home and we don't lose 3 innocents in one night.

Just stands out to much.

I again think Sway is the HP and protecting Z by voting for him.

Sway quickly voted for Z right after day broke. Then she saw me say Jpap is the lynch victim. To follow the known innocent she quickly votes to Jpap. Once Jpap got a large majority of votes she switches back to Z to look like she is on a known witch.

DD did basically the same thing but went back to Jpap in case to many people jump off there are still numbers and no late date switch is needed.

IceH2O
10-20-2007, 2:39 PM
to continue..

Now if a late day switch is needed it will only be by Sway and not both of them again as it must have stood out to them also.

They both left an opening to switch back to the person they were last on also.

Dangerdoll
10-20-2007, 2:45 PM
Charlie, according to Ice's notes, I think we should change. I'm voting sway
I am retracting my vote to pappy and voting to burn swayde at the stake.

Swayde
10-20-2007, 2:47 PM
I vote to burn Swayde at the stake. I give up. Ya'll think I am the High Priest, your wrong. There are only a few of us playing anyhow and they're all witches besides Ice, unless he used the spell on himself to become a witch since they are winning and that way he'd end up on the winning team. Time to end this and move on to the next game.

Swayde
10-20-2007, 2:52 PM
Good game witch team.

IceH2O
10-20-2007, 2:56 PM
You know I just came back to spill the beans.

I was trying to keep the witches from hitting me tonight because I wanted them to think I was causing a lot of confusion. I was hoping that you guys would just vote Z and I could jump on last minute.

Since you all want to give up and quit then so be it. I hate quitters as proved by my lynch day posts. I fight to the end and I expect everyone on my team to do the same.

I retract my vote on DD and vote to burn Z

If you losers want to continue the game then vote Z, I'll be killed off tonight though and then I'll have to watch you moan and cry tomorrow as you decide to quit and give in again.

Dangerdoll
10-20-2007, 2:58 PM
I am retracting my vote for swayde and vote to burn Z at the stake.

Dangerdoll
10-20-2007, 2:59 PM
for the record, I have and had no plans to give up for this game. I am in til the very end, just as I always am.

Swayde
10-20-2007, 3:03 PM
You know I just came back to spill the beans.

I was trying to keep the witches from hitting me tonight because I wanted them to think I was causing a lot of confusion. I was hoping that you guys would just vote Z and I could jump on last minute.

Since you all want to give up and quit then so be it. I hate quitters as proved by my lynch day posts. I fight to the end and I expect everyone on my team to do the same.

I retract my vote on DD and vote to burn Z

If you losers want to continue the game then vote Z, I'll be killed off tonight though and then I'll have to watch you moan and cry tomorrow as you decide to quit and give in again.


That's fine. You're the one who was sitting there voting to burn me and confusing everything. I voted on Ogre because of YOU, because I trusted you, because I knew you were a townie, and then you turn on me. Now your resorting to name calling when once again I agree with you and vote along with you. Nobody wants to listen to me, so why bother? I've tried fighting and fighting and fighting, but it looks like nobody cares to play except the witches...that's been the theme of this entire game. I am tired of it, it's not fun when most of your teammates do nothing to help out and the other team gets to just walk all over you because of it. The townies played badly, all together, we deserve to lose. We deserve to go down in flames.

Swayde
10-20-2007, 3:04 PM
for the record, I have and had no plans to give up for this game. I am in til the very end, just as I always am.


You'd be silly to give up, you are winning.

IceH2O
10-20-2007, 3:07 PM
You'd be silly to give up, you are winning.

Wow you don't get it do you.

Neither you or DD is witch.

I wanted the witches to think I thought you were so they wouldn't hit me tonight.

That plans sunk so now I'll be hit and you'll have to figure out who is witch without me.

Swayde
10-20-2007, 3:07 PM
Since I am still in this game...I did not send a PM to RB...I retract my vote on Swayde and I vote to burn Zsandman at the stake. Please hit me tonight though, this has been painful enough I am ready to have a break. Okay Ice, now you can turn everyone against me again because I'm following you around and just a loser.

Swayde
10-20-2007, 3:08 PM
Wow you don't get it do you.

Neither you or DD is witch.

I wanted the witches to think I thought you were so they wouldn't hit me tonight.

That plans sunk so now I'll be hit and you'll have to figure out who is witch without me.


I guess your little one man show plan backfired cause all you did was make this little loser townie angry and hurt.

IceH2O
10-20-2007, 3:14 PM
I guess your little one man show plan backfired cause all you did was make this little loser townie angry and hurt.

Well it wasn't meant to, this game is all about deception and planning strategies. Yes it was a bit selfish of myself to want to stay in and win the game. I had no option but to look confusing to the witches.

Everyone had Z as the top witch suspect, I thought you'd all just go there.

I didn't mean to hurt you but the same way you feel about people not contributing and people just dying UDs gets me mad also.

Quitting either by not voting or quitting on your team like you did are the same IMO.

I wasn't trying to upset you.

Rbishop
10-20-2007, 4:04 PM
to burn at the stake...

jpap (4) by charlie 861 plnt 889 zsand 891 brat 907

charlie (1) by jpap 897

zsand (3) by ice 927 DD 928 sway 933

8 of 8 voting...

5 hrs to go...

Dangerdoll
10-20-2007, 4:09 PM
You'd be silly to give up, you are winning.
oh swayde.... you will see in the end. If you are innocent, I was with you all the time *sigh*

Ice.... what is a UD?

Rbishop
10-20-2007, 4:11 PM
Untimely Death

Dangerdoll
10-20-2007, 4:20 PM
thanks rb :)

plantling
10-20-2007, 4:25 PM
to burn at the stake...

jpap (4) by charlie 861 plnt 889 zsand 891 brat 907

charlie (1) by jpap 897

zsand (3) by ice 927 DD 928 sway 933

8 of 8 voting...

5 hrs to go...

Now,now RB. Calling names, r we? ;)

Dangerdoll
10-20-2007, 4:26 PM
LOL

Rbishop
10-20-2007, 4:35 PM
:grinyes:

bluerat
10-20-2007, 4:39 PM
:silly: rb youre a bad bad man lol,
i am so not a brat!

plantling
10-20-2007, 5:00 PM
about 3 hours until night. just another chant to calm everyone's nerves:

Calming chant
Chant this simple rhyme whenever you feel worried or scared.
I am peaceful, I am strong
Though dark may seem so long.
For day must follow every night,
Everything is alright.
I am always safe from harm,
The Goddess holds me in her arms

Dangerdoll
10-20-2007, 5:01 PM
hmmm.... weird how you have chants, plant....

Swayde
10-20-2007, 5:45 PM
:silly: rb youre a bad bad man lol,
i am so not a brat!


Hahah that made me laugh out loud =)

jpappy789
10-20-2007, 6:09 PM
Guess that was not my last post. I want to help the town.

I have been reading but have to go. I am switching my vote to ZS though because I think he is a witch and Chas seems to be off the hook now...

I retract my vote on Chas and vote to burn Zs

His defending me was probably to turn the town against ogre and then on me. I think if people see that and burn him we, the town, are in good shape. I am not sure about the DD/Sway thing but sways investigated "innocence" still has me thinking her innocent because I can't get it in my head that she could be the HP. The other would then be either blue or Chas imo.

IceH2O
10-20-2007, 6:46 PM
Well guys I'm going to play Madden 08 at my friends so I won't be here at night fall.



I vote to lynch Jpap.

That is my final vote.

IceH2O
10-20-2007, 6:47 PM
I retract my vote on Z and vote to burn Jpap

Rbishop
10-20-2007, 9:01 PM
It is night...


....and I am here by myself...

Rbishop
10-20-2007, 9:02 PM
the townies burn jpap, who happens to be an innocent townie...

Rbishop
10-20-2007, 9:03 PM
the mafia witches cast a death spell on swayde, who happens to be an inocent townie....

Rbishop
10-20-2007, 9:04 PM
the witches out number the townies and they win the game....

Rbishop
10-20-2007, 9:05 PM
original witches..

plantling, the high priestess,

Zsandmann,

Charlie, and

bluerat...


the switch,...Ice turned when he used the spell to convert from townie to witch....

Rbishop
10-20-2007, 9:06 PM
catch you later....

OgreMkV
10-20-2007, 9:06 PM
OK, so the witches, then were Z, DD, charlie?!!? and DC?!?!

plantling
10-20-2007, 9:16 PM
LOL, Ogre. I hope you're just kidding. RB, I was here, but I decided to do a search for good lighting for a 10 gallon i want to get as a grow out tank. Great Game everyone. Job well done my fellow Witches! Any lies or half-truths were only for the survival of myself and my coven. No hard feelings. Thanks RB for modding.

Lady G
10-20-2007, 9:41 PM
original witches..

plantling, the high priestess,

Zsandmann,

Charlie, and

bluerat...


the switch,...Ice turned when he used the spell to convert from townie to witch....

Ahhh, aside from Charlie (which I had DD in that spot) I was right with my first list!!!

Great Job Witches!! Really as I was watching I kept going back and forth on who I thought..but Z, Plant and "Brat" were alway's high on my list! I thought for sure Orge was too though!

jpappy789
10-20-2007, 10:06 PM
well nice job witches Zs, Chas and blue had me fooled for a while but I did not suspect plant at all until later today but that really wasnt anything so again nice job

IceH2O
10-20-2007, 10:38 PM
Sorry guys.

The rule stated that as long as I lived at games end I would win. Its been a long time since I made through a game and didn't think it would happen.

I was sure of Z and that was it. The rest would have floated by me.
We would have lost most likely so I switched.

At first I thought messing with your heads would be fun but when Sway got upset I felt as if I went to far.

Swayde
10-20-2007, 10:55 PM
Good Game witches. Sorry DD, I really thought you were a witch. Ice, I knew you had switched over to witch, it's exactly what I would have done to be on the winning team :P

Lady G
10-21-2007, 3:43 AM
Sorry guys.

The rule stated that as long as I lived at games end I would win. Its been a long time since I made through a game and didn't think it would happen.

I was sure of Z and that was it. The rest would have floated by me.
We would have lost most likely so I switched.

At first I thought messing with your heads would be fun but when Sway got upset I felt as if I went to far.

It was a good move Ice...can't say as if I wouldn't of done the same. Actually I thought you did it as not to change another innocent by mistake..at least this way you KNEW who was changed and to what.:grinno:

charlie_stubbs
10-21-2007, 8:04 AM
Charlie approaches the Bala Statue in the town square. Once before, when Charlie was the "snitch", Bala helped the townies snatch victory from the jaws of defeat. Forever spurned, Charlie vowed revenge on the Mighty Bala. Today, with the help of his evil friends, he has his revenge. The town has fallen. All that is left are the corpses of rebels, ashes of dreams on bloodstained streets. Charlie kicks the Bala Statue right in its stone balls.
"Take that ya' prick", he declares triumphantly, then hops on his broom and dissappears into the night.
AAAAAaaaaRRRRRRRrrrrrrOOOOOOOoooooooooo
The End????

Rbishop
10-21-2007, 8:15 AM
"NEVER!", Bala thinks, while holding his breath as the stars explode on the foreground of his gray matter.

This town is as immortal as I, and all I have to do is wait. After all, Bala isn't going anywhere. Maybe at the next meeting of the Townies I should just tip over and crush that little chicken choker (pun intended).

charlie_stubbs
10-21-2007, 8:21 AM
:rofl:
"NEVER!", Bala thinks, while holding his breath as the stars explode on the foreground of his gray matter.

This town is as immortal as I, and all I have to do is wait. After all, Bala isn't going anywhere. Maybe at the next meeting of the Townies I should just tip over and crush that little chicken choker (pun intended).

DeputyChiefJR
10-21-2007, 9:36 AM
OK, so the witches, then were Z, DD, charlie?!!? and DC?!?!

Nope, I was the herbalist.

plantling
10-21-2007, 10:56 AM
Ahhh, aside from Charlie (which I had DD in that spot) I was right with my first list!!!

Great Job Witches!! Really as I was watching I kept going back and forth on who I thought..but Z, Plant and "Brat" were alway's high on my list! I thought for sure Orge was too though!
LOL, Lady. It seemed like you were suspicious of almost everyone. At one point we thought you were a power role along w/JM, but then you thought the bat could be for her. But we mainly got rid of you because you were harping on those silly clues. I almost had a heart attack with those clues and I swore Ice was clairvoyant w/his interpretation of that HP spell. The first day was rough for me as you, Ice, and JM seemed to have an HP-o-meter. I'm so glad you pulled your vote off of me or else along w/Brk's vote, I'd have been the worst "Don" ever. I wonder though if Brk would have placed a vote on me if it was going to be a tie-breaker.


Sorry guys.

The rule stated that as long as I lived at games end I would win. Its been a long time since I made through a game and didn't think it would happen.

I was sure of Z and that was it. The rest would have floated by me.
We would have lost most likely so I switched.

At first I thought messing with your heads would be fun but when Sway got upset I felt as if I went to far.
I thought you were messing w/our heads for awhile and panicked and IM'd blue and Chaz to keep their votes on Jp b'cause I hadn't read your pm yet. LOL, I was paranoid. You could still potentially win it for the town if Z had lost the tie-breaker and the next day you could drop out of the game leaving it 3 to 3. We'd be forced to do another tie-breaker and so on. Whew! Glad to share the victory w/you, though. :)


Charlie approaches the Bala Statue in the town square. Once before, when Charlie was the "snitch", Bala helped the townies snatch victory from the jaws of defeat. Forever spurned, Charlie vowed revenge on the Mighty Bala. Today, with the help of his evil friends, he has his revenge. The town has fallen. All that is left are the corpses of rebels, ashes of dreams on bloodstained streets. Charlie kicks the Bala Statue right in its stone balls.
"Take that ya' prick", he declares triumphantly, then hops on his broom and dissappears into the night.
AAAAAaaaaRRRRRRRrrrrrrOOOOOOOoooooooooo
The End????
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :thm: :woot: Oh Charlie. Now I see your appeal to Danger. You're a ton of fun and laughs. Blue and Z were fun to work w/also.

ZSandmann
10-21-2007, 11:52 AM
Great game guys!!! I really was out of town all weekend :D

Ogre you had my number man, I'm glad you were able to get back in the game, no hard feelings.

I have to say plantling was an EXCELLENT HP!!!
blue did very well for her first game
And Charlie kept everyone guessing with his antics.

OgreMkV
10-21-2007, 12:27 PM
Heh, at least I know what to look for when you're the bad guy.

Dangerdoll
10-21-2007, 12:37 PM
Charlie approaches the Bala Statue in the town square. Once before, when Charlie was the "snitch", Bala helped the townies snatch victory from the jaws of defeat. Forever spurned, Charlie vowed revenge on the Mighty Bala. Today, with the help of his evil friends, he has his revenge. The town has fallen. All that is left are the corpses of rebels, ashes of dreams on bloodstained streets. Charlie kicks the Bala Statue right in its stone balls.
"Take that ya' prick", he declares triumphantly, then hops on his broom and dissappears into the night.
AAAAAaaaaRRRRRRRrrrrrrOOOOOOOoooooooooo
The End????

CHARLIE!! :thud:


(good game guys, ypu certainly swept our hides. Sway, the more you were dewnying the HP role, the more I became suspicious. Sorry if I peeved you girl.....)

bluerat
10-21-2007, 3:43 PM
http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/8/8_1_231.gif (http://www.smileycentral.com/?partner=ZSzeb001_ZNxuk101MXGB) thanks for letting me play, i enjoyed it
even with the lack of sleep lol,
Brat