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125gJoe
10-26-2007, 2:33 AM
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This is very strange stuff...
Here's a recent report.

http://www.earthfiles.com/news.php?ID=1337&category=Environment


“This organism is operating comfortably at such a high temperature. That is so strange that these cells can be grown at very high temperatures of 300 degrees Celsius (572 degrees F.). There is no known organism on Earth that can grow and multiply at this temperature actually. No DNA has been found either."

(The known upper limit for life in water is about 250˚F.)


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khombre
10-26-2007, 3:59 AM
Strange indeed :eek:

Fungi
10-26-2007, 4:52 AM
Hrmm... is all I can say, I googled it, came up with some forum discussing it,
They look similar to red blood cells but lack the haemoglobin protein normally found in them,
they (i.e. 'doubters') also say it may be some form of local red algae

Reefscape
10-26-2007, 4:56 AM
very strange and yet unexplained...all shall be revealed at science advances..

Malefic23
10-26-2007, 6:16 AM
Charming. Anyone consider with global warming starting to really cycle up, we just found something that does'nt match our biology and needs heat to reproduce? Ummm... Are we being terraformed? Or is this just nature's way of getting the next stage of life ready to replace us?

electromen
10-26-2007, 9:01 AM
I'll be the first to say it.. ALIENS!!!! lol

125gJoe
10-26-2007, 4:04 PM
Hrmm... is all I can say, I googled it, came up with some forum discussing it,
They look similar to red blood cells but lack the haemoglobin protein normally found in them,
they (i.e. 'doubters') also say it may be some form of local red algae
What's amazing with the other websites (and I looked around too), is they overlooked the temperature testings. No life can live and reproduce at 600C or 572F degrees like this "stuff" does. Also, it's "stable" and doesn't age at normal temperatures.

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OgreMkV
10-26-2007, 4:41 PM
I don't get it. Over 6 years and one university in India and one university in Cardiff (of all places) are the only ones studying it. The main professor studying this is not even a biologist, his specialty is solid state physics.

Why has it landed only in this area of the world if it's from outer space?

Why haven't they been able to extract the molecules of the pigments? That's a very simple process... I could do it in my high school lab if I had a centrifuge and a mass spectrometer.

Why have the research papers nly been published on the internet? Peer review doesn't take 6 years.

I'm sure that when this released to a Biology team, this will be shown to have an Earth bound explanation.

ideas1400
10-26-2007, 9:57 PM
I have read about bacteria that can live in extremes temperatures. Some live at below zero degree temperature and some live at high temperature. Some even live in space.

And in my religion there are reports of red rain as far as 1300 years ago.

http://www.bact.wisc.edu/Bact303/b14

125gJoe
10-26-2007, 10:32 PM
next page..


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OgreMkV
10-26-2007, 10:36 PM
Here's the wiki article which seems pretty complete:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_rain_in_Kerala

125gJoe
10-26-2007, 10:44 PM
I've even read the "wiki" thing...

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Did you read the original article - completely?
All your questions are in the article and have been answered. That's what makes this 'situation' very puzzling, to say the least.

I'd love to see "any" biologist worth his or her name to get cells to reproduce at 572F degrees! (600C)

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nickmcmechan
10-27-2007, 2:11 AM
not to turn this to a religious thread please, but please tell us the bit about the red rain in your religion...theres also something about red rivers in christianity

OgreMkV
10-27-2007, 7:42 AM
I've read several of the articles including the lead researchers article and it doesn't answer anything.

"Under optical microscope they appear like biological cells and the Transmission Electron Microscopy further shows a clear cell structure."*

'they appear like biological cells' that doesn't mean anything. What are the internal structure of the cell? With an optical microscope, I can see several internal structure of a cell... including DNA when the cell divides.

A TEM can be used to see viral particles. So all he can say about the cells are 'further cell structure'.

I know he's supposed to be publishing an article soon, but I expect there are some issues with his research (just based on what I've read).

Look, I'm not saying these can't be alien life. However, to quote the greatest astrophysicist or our age, "extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof". I'll withhold further judgment until I see the actual paper.

Anyone remember cold fusion?

*http://education.vsnl.com/godfrey/

Malefic23
10-29-2007, 8:31 AM
How about an escapee from a black smoker colony? Would explain the heat requirement, but how the heck did it make it to the surface? Finding a source for this stuff should be pretty easy if it's terrestrial. How many 600 degree sources are fixed, open to evaporation, and nearby? Might be breeding in a powerplant's waste heat pools, right at the outflow.