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tjg2007

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I got a new 29 gallon tank that I plan to do my first planting with. Right now I just have an in-tank whisper filter and a generic heater in it since I just wanted to get it going to save an aggressive fish. The lighting is pretty poor so I know I will need an upgrade there. Can anyone tell me what type of equipment I need to look for?

Dimensions are roughly 18 inches tall, 30 inches long, and 12 inches from front to back.
 
Good job planning ahead 8) way better than trying to fix problems later on. The first thing to look into will be the lighting. What kind of hood do you have and how many watts of light?
 
Also - do you want to go

high tech (tons of light, CO2, ferts, frequent water changes, very fast growth, regular algae outbreaks, $$$) or

low tech (El Natural or NPT, modest amount of light, soil under gravel, no CO2 little or no ferts, water changes quarterly instead of weekly, slower plant growth, rare algae outbreaks)

Making this decision first will have a profound impact on everything else you do.
 
I will probably go with a fairly low tech approach. I like the natural approach, it takes a little longer but fewer potential issues.

The lighting I have now will have to be replaced I have no doubt it is very dim and I was told when I got the tank that it is a very old hood and may not last much longer anyway. I figure I will probably try to find a moderate brightness light but how many watts would that be for this size tank? The other thing would be what type of substrates? Right now I have Meramec River gravel in there but not much else.

The fish that is in there is just an Opaline Gourami that seems to think he is a pirahana or something. He isnt really super aggresive just more so that the other occupents of my 55.
 
I have been looking on Foster's and Smith's to just kind of browse the lighting and I see a lot of different ones that all seem the same. The hoods seem to be more or less the same until you get to what bulbs you get to put into them. Anyone have any recommendations for what I should be looking for? I was thinking about getting one of the 2 tube strips and having one regular bulb and one of the special "grow bulbs", would this be a good way to go? I honestly have no idea what I am supposed to be looking at as far as the lighting goes.

As far as the substrates go I was talking to a few of the people at an LFS and they said that Flourite will mix well with the gravel I have. Will this be really beneficial to the plants? I have seen a few posts here saying that regular gravel is just fine.

Now for the big one, what about CO2? I dont really want to get all high teck or anything is the CO2 really needed? If it is, How often? I want to plant the tank to a medium density so that it wont seem crowded with the plants.
I am going to see about an LFS taking my Opaline Gourami in to put out for adoption since he does not appear to want any company and will be looking at possibly a Neon Dwarf Gourami and possibly another type of Dwarf Gourami, maybe one of the really red ones (cant remember what they are called) and maybe a school of 6 Black Neons or Harlequin Rasboras.

As far as fertalizers go I have seen some postings about using root tabs. Is this a type of fertalizer?

Any help would be nice. I plan on trying my hand with planting the 29 then possibly moving the plants to my 55 and doing away with the artificials I have in it right now.

I have a pretty limited budget but plan to stretch out the project over time to alleviate the financial burden. I figure the lights and substrate issues are my first hurdle. Once I have them I plan to start my backround plants but have not yet really made any decisions on what plants I will have. I am looking for something that will grow very full and lush for one corner and possibly some Anacharis, Cabomba or Myrio (maybe get two of these one red and one green?)
 
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I choose to go "high tech", but on a budget. About two months ago, after discovering this and other sites, I decided my tank needed an upgrade if I wanted it to be planted. Previously, I'd had a plant in ther, but it wasn't growing.

The steps I took were thus:

1)Built a DIY CO2 system using yeast to create my CO2. This is a relatively inexpensive option. You can build it for as little as $15(I spent a little more getting a better diffuser.) To learn what a diffuser is, and to learn how to build a CO2 Yeast "Machine" out of old soda bottles, head over to the DIY forum. There is a sticky in there with lots of DIY threads, including DIY CO2. I purchased a big bag of sugar at costco for $.35/lb.

2) Once I completed my DIY CO2, I decided that to fully utilize this new addition to my tank, I would be needing better lighting. I then proceeded to spend ~$100(can be made for less) building a hood with incorporated lighting to give me about 126 Watts of lighting in my tank. Previously, I had only 17 watts. I built my lighthing into a nice wooden hood, but you can find cheaper ways of upgrading your lighting, including some stuff on Foster and Smith. Generally, people use a "3-5 watts per gallon" rule which is a good guideline for bulbs rated as "T12". Generally, I believe, lights tend to come with T8 bulbs these days. Therefore the "3-5 watts per gallon" rule doesn't apply directly. If I remember correctly, T8's are a little more efficient than T12's, therefore you'll need a little less than that. www.ahsupply.com has a kit to upgrade your current lighting system to be able to handle these more powerful bulbs. It's ~$60 + the bulb(s).

3) I will be upgrading my substrate, but this will coincide with me getting a bigger tank. The tank is for my fish, the substrate for the plants. I personally have choosen to use Soilmaster Select(~$13.50/ 50 lbs) from www.lesco.com. I like this option because the charcoal color is what I'm looking for, I already add ferts, it's cheap, and I have a store near by so I don't have to pay shipping. Other substrates include Eco-Complete and Flourite. These other substrates will have certain ferts imbedded in them that will be released.

4)I add good ole Flourish to my tank on a weekly basis. This is a fantastic fertilizer, and is really cheap on Foster and Smith. It's like ~$22 for a 2L bottle(compared to ~$15 for a .5L bottle at my LFS), which will last a while(I keep it refrigerated to help it last). If you go with a substrate like Soilmaster, Flourish will provide the trace elements your fish need. Flourish tabs will also work for this. I've never used them so I can't provide to much advice on how to use them nor how effective they are. I believe they work fine.

5)I also keep a bottle of Flourish Excel around. This is a carbon containing liquid. This can be used in place of a CO2 system, but in the long run I think it would be pricey. Again, Foster and Smith have it for ~$22 for a 2L(compared to ~15 for a .5L at my LFS). I use this, personally, for algae outbreaks and during yeast changes/refeeding(sugar) which I have to do about every 10 days. I just through a capful in my tank to help keep the carbon available while the yeast start to pressurize/process the new sugar.

This is kind of a "high tech" high maintenance setup, but I'm enjoying the work involved. I will enjoy the rewards even better. All and all, I'm going to spend some bank on the entire thing. I've done some DIY stuff, so that cut down the cost, but it still wasn't cheap. For smaller items, I always check out www.froogle.com for the lowest price. I will say, however, for what I'm doing, I've avoided purchasing online, because I don't want to pay shipping. I will be making a pretty large purchase from Foster and Smith soon, since they have a more or less flat rate for shipping.

I hope this gives you some ideas.
 
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CO2 injection will help out a lot if you can afford it. I tried DIY route and just kept having problems. You may have more success.

As for fertilizing. Head over to plantedtank.net and search EI dosing. They have a really good thread on dosing by tank size. It solved my problems on fert dosing really quickly and my algae has since gone bye bye.

Lighting I use shoplights, but most go with ahsupply.com

Substrate-my plants are rocking in a cheap but effective sand mixture with root tabs.
 
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