Angelfish and Compatible Tankmates

[AngelfishGirl19]

So far I have this for my new 30 gallon tank:
-2 Angelfish
-4 Albino Cory Cats

What would seem interesting to add to this list? Ex: Gouramis etc.

Yes I know that the angels fight if they are both the same sex and I know they have territorial disputes. Thanks.

[Coler]

I don't think you should have Gourami in that size tank with Angels.

At adult size, 2 Angels in there is pretty much maxing out the tank; hopefully they would be a pair and not beat the tar out of each other. Less risk/not likely to need to move one would be 1 Angel as a Centrepiece, with the corys and some schoolers...Angels grown from juvenile with e.g. neon tetras often will not prey on the tetras...could consider harelquin rasporas in that regard too...or perhaps a larger tetra (I am no expert on these - so hopefully someone else can chip in).

Bottom line, I would try 1 Angel, 4/5 corys, and a school of smaller fish, unless I had a back up plan to cope with an Angel which didn't get on with its Angel tank mate.

[jm1212]

while angels do get failry large (6 inches) they will not take up the entire 30 gallon tank. still, it would not be advisable to add anything to the tank because you do have 4 albino corydoras, which can get pretty big, for corydoras.

it is likely that your angels will begin to fight. if they do, you will need to seperate them.

even if angels grow up with neons, cardinals, zebra danios, endlers, and even guppies, they will be regarded as food as soon as the angel are big enough. even otos are at risk. neons and cardinals are the angel's natural prey in the wild, and often coexsist. larger tetras such as glolites, black neons, rummynose, lemons, and red eyes will be fine.

Coler's stocking does sound right though. 1 angel will be a fine centerpiece for the tank, along with the 4 corydoras and then a school of larger tetras.

[Lupin]

Can't resist ignoring the fun so..

Black Neon Tetra(Hyphessobrycon herbertaxelrodi)
Black Phantom Tetra(Megalamphodus megalopterus)
Bleeding Heart Tetra(Hyphessobrycon erythrostigma)
Diamond Tetra(Moenkhausia pittieri)
Emperor Tetra(Nematobrycon palmeri)
Flame Tetra(Hyphessobrycon flammeus)
Glass Bloodfin(Prionobrama filigera)
Glowlight Tetra(Hemigrammus eryhthrozonus)
Head-and-Tail-Light(Hemigrammus ocellifer)
Jewel Tetra(Hyphessobrycon callistus)
Kerri Tetra(Inpaichthys kerri)
Lemon Tetra(Hyphessobrycon pulchripinnis)
Penguin tetra(Thayeria boehlkei)
Red-eye Tetra(Moenkhausia sanctaefilomenae)
Red Phantom Tetra(Hyphessobrycon sweglesi)
Rosy Tetra(Hyphessobrycon bentosi)
Rummy-Nose Tetra(Hemigrammus bleheri)
Rummy-Nose Tetra(Hemigrammus rhodostomus)
Rummy-Nose Tetra(Petitella georgiae)
X-ray Tetra(Pristella maxillaris)

I snip off some species from the list as they are either prone to predation or they themselves try to trim down the angelfish's fins.

[MontyGoose]

Serpaes, Bleeding Hearts, and Red eye tetras are nice 'bigger' schooling tetras so the angels wont want to eat them..

[Lupin]

Serpaes, Bleeding Hearts, and Red eye tetras are nice 'bigger' schooling tetras so the angels wont want to eat them..
There has to be a reason why I snip off the serpaes from the list I posted.;)

[syddakyd]

There has to be a reason why I snip off the serpaes from the list I posted.;)

the going after long flowing fins might be that reason:perv:

[Lupin]

the going after long flowing fins might be that reason:perv:
Correct that, mate.:thm:

[wataugachicken]

Yes I know that the angels fight if they are both the same sex and I know they have territorial disputes. Thanks.

They might fight if they are both female. . . they will fight if they are both male. . and if they pair up (male/female or possibly female/female) they will fight with everyone else to protect their eggs. I really don't think two in a 30 is a good idea. I have 4 in a 150 5ft long tank, and they still harass each other and defend territory vigorously.

[dbarron]

Are cherry barbs too aggressive to keep with angels?

[rich311k]

Cherry barbs are pretty mild. In a large enough group you should be ok. There are no absolutes though.

[Star_Rider]

2 angels in a 30 is max if they get along.

a mated pair will get along most of the time,but, you still need hiding places as they still do fight.

2 males in most cases will fight 2 females may(I do agree with this)

you can add dithers but still need to be aware of aggression by the angels.
bottom dwellers are usually safe tetras on the other hand may hide if you have a pair.

at issue is trying to determine the sex of angels..nearly impossible in the adults and even more impossible as juveniles.

[madtundra]

i have 4 angels in my 55 gal with 7 peppered cories 4 blue rams 8 glowlite tetras, 8 phantom tetras a 7 " plec and a 6 year old rainbow with no trouble except between the angels nipping at each other once in a while.

[DavidZ]

Star-rider you are right on the money, I have 5 angels in my 65Gl with a bushynoce pleco and an otto.
All was well untill I developed a pair of the blush angels and now all is not well in the tank, the rest of the angels need to stay away.
At this point I am going to trade the pair in, don't know for what at this time, but will see. They are a good looking pair.
Never traded a pair of breaders before, any ideas?

[Star_Rider]

get a 29 and move the pair to a BB tank..let em spawn..

btw, proven pairs can bring some descent money.(operative word-proven)

[DavidZ]

the funny thing they did spawn when I was away
I can't do another tank, 3 tanks in an apt is too much
What do you call descent money for a young proven pair

[Star_Rider]

$40-60 is pretty average for a proven pair

some will demand more depending on the lineage.

wild scalare in the $100's for a pair

[AngelfishGirl19]

:jaw:WOW thatz a pretty good price for 2 breeder angels

[Star_Rider]

much of it is dependant on the colors of the parents and theor bloodlines.. with wild scalare it's is a totally different ball park..few wild breeding pairs are ever really given up.

wild scalare F1 can bring a nice price for the off spring.(of course this is partly dependent on the market you reside in..I can get $15 for single quarter sized off spring.

[DavidZ]

The male is in a single shot and in the front of the double.