Mafia #18 The Santa Game

[Dangerdoll]

rb, do you have a vote tally?

[bethkira2000]

This is for johnlarson66 I don't think HN is evil I do think that you might be. Granted people who don't post alot are not necasarily evil, but you don't make a good case for me niether does Blueiz. If you make a case as to why you voted for me, I will understand your vote, but as of right now you are jumping on a train and it will end the game. GOOD JOB EVIL YOU WIN
And Blueiz I find your lack of proof very telling. I think you are on the evil team, we shall see.

[johnlarson66]

I take it that you think that beth is the grinch than...

IMO I think she is evil yet I do not think she is the grinch but thats JMO...anyways, I am going to make a vote soon just to put one out there. But having trouble deciding who could possibly be the grinch...well I think most people are.

Right now I have Chas, DD, and Hn as top "candidates" yet they all seem to be bickering with one another at some point...making it difficult to figure out who is really telling the truth

This was from yesterday evening. Still no vote. I am curious as to where this final vote will end up. Whenever someone thinks someone is evil and does not vote for them because they want to find someone more evil, I am concerned. Evil is Evil.

[johnlarson66]

This is for johnlarson66 I don't think HN is evil I do think that you might be. Granted people who don't post alot are not necasarily evil, but you don't make a good case for me niether does Blueiz. If you make a case as to why you voted for me, I will understand your vote, but as of right now you are jumping on a train and it will end the game. GOOD JOB EVIL YOU WIN
And Blueiz I find your lack of proof very telling. I think you are on the evil team, we shall see.

Who taught you about trains?

I am voting for you because it is apperant that you have had help in this game and not from just this thread. You are communicating outside of the thread. Now you could be one of the present carrying innocents, but I do not think so. So you must be evil.

Voting for yourself and being a confuesed newb one day and then the next day "understanding".

Really, who taught you about jumping on a train? That has not been an issue this game.

[bethkira2000]

I can say also to you johnlarson66 that the first day I made the mistake of voting for Madcrawdad, without evidence and I retracted. I then voted for myself, I have explained this before, I still need more evidence from you, No one has taught me anything.
You explaination as to voting for me is weak at best. Looks like your true colors are showing, little pointy ears maybe?

[johnlarson66]

I can't believe I waited for that reply. Then you left.

I am sure you have been told not to OMGUS vote me. Have you voted?

Who is helping you?

[Madcrawdad]

Mad,

You post with also less than 12 hours left, then vote for someone that only has one vote. What a waste.

Going to tell Beth to vote HN also? I guess that would tie thing up.

Always willing to switch to DD, although I'd prefer HN to be the lynch of the evening... Good to see you posting. Took the town going into LYLO to get you out there directing traffic, though. Interesting...

[bethkira2000]

why exactly are you watching my every move? it is very creepy.
Noone is helping me I played clue alot as a child.
what more do you want me to say.
here is what I think.
Charlie- not sure leaning toward innocent
Grins- thought innocent, but latley her actions say maybe evil\
DD- I think innocent
Madcrawdad-not sure perhaps innocent
Gupman- leaning toward evil
Johnlarson66-leaing toward evil
HN- not sure everyone says evil, but then they said Niko was eivl and look what happened there.
Blueiz- I have my thought that she might be evil
who is my number one choice, unclear but you are headed toward the top, based on your stalker status.

[bethkira2000]

gotta shovel the driveway johnlarson66 I will be back in an hour.

[Rbishop]

rb, do you have a vote tally?


see post #980 at 5:20 AM

[Blueiz]

Its obvious at this point, IMO, that beth is being coached, and that she is evil.

[Blueiz]

Stupid lap top, hit post to soon..

You might as well come clean now to who your team mates are...speaking of point ears..doesnt Charlie say that alot, or is it HN?



little pointy ears maybe?

[bethkira2000]

think what you like Blueiz, I don't know for sure if your evil but they way you single me out, makes me think you have contacts that are evil. I think you are not coached but told who is evil and who is not. I think that you are in fact evil and have been weeding out the innocent ones. And I think you teams mate are as follows:
gupman
johnlarson66
Perhaps IceH2O- still deciding
Grins- may be innocent, but I am leaning toward evil.

[bethkira2000]

in post #904 this list is what I think to be a leaked list of innocents, I mean we know for a fact that Niko, and Coler were innocent. I am preety sure that DD is, and I think Charlie might be,I know the answer to myself obviously. But does that mean the Ice is innocent not sure, does it mean that HN is innocent again not sure but I am beginning think so. If I am wrong about DD, and charlie then I know for a fact that three people are innocent.

[Blueiz]

think what you like Blueiz, I don't know for sure if your evil but they way you single me out, makes me think you have contacts that are evil. I think you are not coached but told who is evil and who is not. I think that you are in fact evil and have been weeding out the innocent ones. And I think you teams mate are as follows:
gupman
johnlarson66
Perhaps IceH2O- still deciding
Grins- may be innocent, but I am leaning toward evil.

Your post makes no sense beth, as usual.

You have listed Ice and Grins as being my evil team mates, yet you arent decided if they are evil or not? Not logical.

Better yet, it may help you to list yourself and your evil team mates, then at least you would make some sense....

[bethkira2000]

oh, I am sure that they are evil now, however I am not sure if they are evilest. I want the grinch, this is payback for Niko, and LG.

[Grins]

think what you like Blueiz, I don't know for sure if your evil but they way you single me out, makes me think you have contacts that are evil. I think you are not coached but told who is evil and who is not. I think that you are in fact evil and have been weeding out the innocent ones. And I think you teams mate are as follows:
gupman
johnlarson66
Perhaps IceH2O- still deciding
Grins- may be innocent, but I am leaning toward evil.

I can't help but notice that list looks an awful lot like anyone that has noticed the inconsistencies in your behavior and voted against you Beth.

[Dangerdoll]

I can't believe I waited for that reply. Then you left.

I am sure you have been told not to OMGUS vote me. Have you voted?

Who is helping you?
sorry, hust found this post hysterical :rofl::rofl::rofl:


Stupid lap top, hit post to soon..

You might as well come clean now to who your team mates are...speaking of point ears..doesnt Charlie say that alot, or is it HN?

I believe it's Charlie or it may be both but I feel that Hooked is innocent. I feel she if she is getting these words, she is hearing them from Charlie.

(sorry Charlie :hearts:)


oh, I am sure that they are evil now, however I am not sure if they are evilest. I want the grinch, this is payback for Niko, and LG.

However interesting this may be, I am now wondering, since there are those so adament on your closet of green clothing, I wonder if maybe you might be the Grinch. I know Charlie isn't, I'm not sure of Ice though, he could be it too....

my vote stands. Reason being is because I am almost positive of Charlie, and less of who might be Grinch. I'd rather be on a sure-shot than a maybe.

[bethkira2000]

well Grins maybe that is because they are all on the same side, and they know who they need to hit to win the game.

[Dangerdoll]

Charlie is the closest to sure-shot that I have, hence my vote.

[bethkira2000]

Okay I am throwing this out there Blueiz, you were sure LadyG was evil when she changed her vote, then your focus became on Niko because he seemed very suspicious, then your focus was on Charlie, and now its on me. My point, LG and Niko are innocent as am I so My only conclusion is that you are evil and I know its true, you have flown under everyones radar.
I vote to lynch Blueiz

[Grins]

well Grins maybe that is because they are all on the same side, and they know who they need to hit to win the game.


Wait, are you saying you're Santa now? If you are I sure in heck hope it isn't true because you just outed yourself and screwed us all. I'm not going to worry too much though because I'm not buying the act and still think you're evil.

I agree with DD that while there are others I suspect as evil I'm going to vote for what seems a best bet and right now thats you Beth.

[bethkira2000]

well, all I can say is evil wins and the game is over, but thank you for hearing me out at least. It was fun playing with all of you.

[Blueiz]

Okay I am throwing this out there Blueiz, you were sure LadyG was evil when she changed her vote, then your focus became on Niko because he seemed very suspicious, then your focus was on Charlie, and now its on me. My point, LG and Niko are innocent as am I so My only conclusion is that you are evil and I know its true, you have flown under everyones radar.
I vote to lynch Blueiz

Tell me exactly where I have focued on LG and Charlie, even went after them. Now youre making things up..thats even worse..

[bethkira2000]

you wish, my vote stands.

[jpappy789]

This was from yesterday evening. Still no vote. I am curious as to where this final vote will end up. Whenever someone thinks someone is evil and does not vote for them because they want to find someone more evil, I am concerned. Evil is Evil.

Yes I know it looks scummy, but my mom eventually kicked me off the computer. So I have narrowed my list down to Chas and DD trying to figure out which one is the Grinch. I am still having a hard time finding beth as Grinch, jl, so that is why I do not want to vote her tonight...anyways, I am really struggling here.

They have been at each other and at this point I really cannot tell who is telling the truth. DD has the whole email thing going for her (well really, against her) yet Chas really put himself on my radar when he went after grins..."kicking down doors" is one thing but I dont know...also, been thinking about the whole DD thing and I do not think she would need to copy an email from someone else, especially if she was the Grinch. Just seems to much to risk at a time like this. So with that...

I vote to lynch Charlie

[Madcrawdad]

hook (2) by cs 870 mad 995

jpap (1) by hook 872

beth (3) by grins 890 jl66 910 blue 968

cs (2) by DD 941 Jpap 1026

DD (2) by gup 943 ice 957

Blue (1) by beth 1021

11 of 11 have voted...

Alright Guys, we're all over the place....we cannot go into the night like this, as scum can hop on anywhere for the kill.

I like HN for tonight..... seriously, did anyone else's role assigment PM say 'Santa-helping elf' like HN says his did? Mine did not. I willing to vote elsewhere, as every onesie (even twosie) vote is likely a wasted vote.

Nightfall at 8 PM EST tonight, in about 14 1/2 hrs...[/QUOTE]

[bethkira2000]

sorry Mad but it looks like I am going down. see ya in the next game

[Hooked Newbie]

HN, in previous posts and this one now, you're claiming that you're a clueless townie who has been played. C'mon, you jumped headfirst (and hard) onto everyone you've lynched so don't start the 'I've been played!' It's nonsense. You are scum....

Care to try to explain again why your role PM is different that the rest of the innocent's again? Why did your's say 'elf'.... The only elves even mentioned in the rules were the evil elves. Townies were called innocents... Does anyone else want to claim that their PM said 'Santa-helping elf'?

I didn't send it, Rb did so I'm not sure why it was worded differently from others. In fact, that's a good point.

I would like to protest and have the game called a draw due to inconsistent PMs.





Fact of the matter is it did, I'm not scum but I think you are.

How do you feel about calling it a draw Mad? Seems perfectly fair to me.

[Hooked Newbie]

hook (2) by cs 870 mad 995

jpap (1) by hook 872

beth (3) by grins 890 jl66 910 blue 968

cs (2) by DD 941 Jpap 1026

DD (2) by gup 943 ice 957

Blue (1) by beth 1021

11 of 11 have voted...

Alright Guys, we're all over the place....we cannot go into the night like this, as scum can hop on anywhere for the kill.

I like HN for tonight..... seriously, did anyone else's role assigment PM say 'Santa-helping elf' like HN says his did? Mine did not. I willing to vote elsewhere, as every onesie (even twosie) vote is likely a wasted vote.

Nightfall at 8 PM EST tonight, in about 14 1/2 hrs...[/quote]

Still pleading the weak night one stuff huh Mad? Why'd you wait? Why didn't you feel so strongly about this three days ago?


Folks- I don't care if you believe me or not. At this point, I'll be happy to have this game over with so another can start up. I do want to ask the innocents one thing... Why will no one look at Mad? He is directing the action to his own liking.

The only one close that I consider evil is Charlie. The cases on Beth are there, but they've been fed by the evils just the same as LG and Niko.

I retract my vote to lynch Jpappy and vote to lynch Charlie.

We have to get an evil tonight for the game to continue folks!

[bethkira2000]

Thank you HN I hve said the same thing and everyone of course thinks I did it. But I am INNOCENT dang it.

[Madcrawdad]

Still pleading the weak night one stuff huh Mad? Why'd you wait? Why didn't you feel so strongly about this three days ago?


Folks- I don't care if you believe me or not. At this point, I'll be happy to have this game over with so another can start up. I do want to ask the innocents one thing... Why will no one look at Mad? He is directing the action to his own liking.

The only one close that I consider evil is Charlie. The cases on Beth are there, but they've been fed by the evils just the same as LG and Niko.

I retract my vote to lynch Jpappy and vote to lynch Charlie.

We have to get an evil tonight for the game to continue folks!

HN, many things need to happen to continue this game.... Blitzen comes into play tonight, so the town is already down an innocent... even if the town lynches scum, an innocent will be lost... the Grinch needs to accidentally hit scum, etc. etc. for the town to win. The UDs really killed us this game.

As far as the PM being a weak argument, I don't think so. I'm in a pretty unique position. Because the town is in dire shape, and I will likely be hit tonight anyway, I'll let you in on a secret. I was the innocent who was allowed to communicate w/ the other 3 after the game began. Plantling, Andi, another innocent, and myself were the communicators. Being a plain vanilla townie, my PM was slightly different than theirs, but none of them said 'elf'... Strange, don't you think, you helpful little elf?

As far as waiting on it, strictly because it may not be strong enough to stand alone, but after watching you for 2 days it makes sense.

[johnlarson66]

sorry Mad but it looks like I am going down. see ya in the next game

Beth, why are you saying sorry to Mad?

[johnlarson66]

Originally Posted by Madcrawdad
HN, in previous posts and this one now, you're claiming that you're a clueless townie who has been played. C'mon, you jumped headfirst (and hard) onto everyone you've lynched so don't start the 'I've been played!' It's nonsense. You are scum....

Care to try to explain again why your role PM is different that the rest of the innocent's again? Why did your's say 'elf'.... The only elves even mentioned in the rules were the evil elves. Townies were called innocents... Does anyone else want to claim that their PM said 'Santa-helping elf'?

I didn't send it, Rb did so I'm not sure why it was worded differently from others. In fact, that's a good point.

I would like to protest and have the game called a draw due to inconsistent PMs.

Fact of the matter is it did, I'm not scum but I think you are.

How do you feel about calling it a draw Mad? Seems perfectly fair to me.

When I click the source of the top quote that HN quoted, it looks nothing like the quote that is posted. HN why have you altered the quote?

[Rbishop]

to lynch....

hook (2) cs mad

beth (3) grins jl66 blue

cs (3) DD jpap hook

DD (2) gup ice

blue (1) beth

all have voted.....

about 2 hours until nightfall....

[IceH2O]

I am posting this because well it seemed to jump out at me. This is by IceH20 used in a quote by HN:
A list consisting of these players:
NIko
Charlie
Coler
Beth
and DD
Now I know myself, but Niko and Coler were both innocent I think even though she made that email mistake that DD is innocent, Charlie has still not done anything to make me think that he is evil.
See my point yet? I know Charlie knows his postion and that DD knows her postion so any thoughts?

Beth thats the only list I had and was from days ago. Yes I've been wrong a couple of times as has most of the town. You think DD is innocent but you forget she was the one that jumped onto Niko the very 1st day. Then the copy and pasted email. I think she wanted to make a post but wanted to make sure everyone on her team was okay with what she was going to say. Once she got the okay she accidentally copied to much and pasted it.


Yes I know it looks scummy, but my mom eventually kicked me off the computer. So I have narrowed my list down to Chas and DD trying to figure out which one is the Grinch. I am still having a hard time finding beth as Grinch, jl, so that is why I do not want to vote her tonight...anyways, I am really struggling here.

They have been at each other and at this point I really cannot tell who is telling the truth. DD has the whole email thing going for her (well really, against her) yet Chas really put himself on my radar when he went after grins..."kicking down doors" is one thing but I dont know...also, been thinking about the whole DD thing and I do not think she would need to copy an email from someone else, especially if she was the Grinch. Just seems to much to risk at a time like this. So with that...

I vote to lynch Charlie

Same thing as I just posted to Beth that you need to look at about the email Jpap. We all know DD doesn't need coaching but a lot of the time the evils go in with a plan. This game they have controlled us from the start. I think she wanted to clear the post with the others.


HN, many things need to happen to continue this game.... Blitzen comes into play tonight, so the town is already down an innocent... even if the town lynches scum, an innocent will be lost... the Grinch needs to accidentally hit scum, etc. etc. for the town to win. The UDs really killed us this game.

As far as the PM being a weak argument, I don't think so. I'm in a pretty unique position. Because the town is in dire shape, and I will likely be hit tonight anyway, I'll let you in on a secret. I was the innocent who was allowed to communicate w/ the other 3 after the game began. Plantling, Andi, another innocent, and myself were the communicators. Being a plain vanilla townie, my PM was slightly different than theirs, but none of them said 'elf'... Strange, don't you think, you helpful little elf?

As far as waiting on it, strictly because it may not be strong enough to stand alone, but after watching you for 2 days it makes sense.


I agree being all over the place doesn't help us at all.



We only have 6 innocents vs 5 evils.

If they lynch innocent and hit innocent its game over.

What is even worse is that Blitzen happens tonight.

We need to lynch an evil (6-4) and hope that Blitzen hits an innocent which would make it (5-4) and hope they hit one of their own 5-3. If they hit an innocent then its 4-4.

If we lynch an evil(6-4) and Blitzen hits an evil (5-5) and they hit an innocent its (5-4 evils) .



Beths posts are all over the place. Her suspicions are only on those who have called her out. She followed a player she thought was evil onto another player. I don't think she is the grinch though.

I still feel that DD is our best bet at Grinch.

Her post that she knows HN is innocent is more disturbing knowing that Mad claims to be one of the communicating innocent left. So she was communicating with evils.

Also did anyone notice that DD wasn't on me till HN mentioned me? And how she has been trying to twist my posts?

I'm not as sure that HN is evil as I am of DD. HN has had his moments that made me think he was but I also think that DD could be taking advantage of his aggressiveness.

[johnlarson66]

When I click the source of the top quote that HN quoted, it looks nothing like the quote that is posted. HN why have you altered the quote?

I should not say nothing like, there is just a few sentences added in bold.

I think we should have a "rule" no editing quotes unless it is to bold or change the color or something, but no adding words.

I thought Mad was wanting to call the game, but I guess it is HN?

[Hooked Newbie]

HN, many things need to happen to continue this game.... Blitzen comes into play tonight, so the town is already down an innocent... even if the town lynches scum, an innocent will be lost... the Grinch needs to accidentally hit scum, etc. etc. for the town to win. The UDs really killed us this game.

As far as the PM being a weak argument, I don't think so. I'm in a pretty unique position. Because the town is in dire shape, and I will likely be hit tonight anyway, I'll let you in on a secret. I was the innocent who was allowed to communicate w/ the other 3 after the game began. Plantling, Andi, another innocent, and myself were the communicators. Being a plain vanilla townie, my PM was slightly different than theirs, but none of them said 'elf'... Strange, don't you think, you helpful little elf?

As far as waiting on it, strictly because it may not be strong enough to stand alone, but after watching you for 2 days it makes sense.

Cool if that's true. BUT... you will see. It said EXACTLY what I've stated it said and I am not evil.

[Hooked Newbie]

When I click the source of the top quote that HN quoted, it looks nothing like the quote that is posted. HN why have you altered the quote?

I removed the comments that weren't directed to me. You must be evil, you're finally here.... to gloat?

[IceH2O]

I really thought that DD would try to pull the Santa card, all evils try as a last gasp try to confuse the town especially when being looked at and want to lynch their suspect.

So I was thinking about it and decided to play what if...


Lets go with that DD is Santa.

She was all over Niko Day 1. Day 2 she changed her mind and made Charlie her number 1 suspect while keeping the suspicion on Niko. Does that mean even though Niko was her highest suspect that she decided instead to investigate Charlie based on him not role playing with her? Wouldn't you investigate your top suspect? I don't believe she made any investigations at all.

Night 2 she decides to jump on me AFTER HN names me in a post. Then claims HN is innocent. Did she investigate HN? Even if HN is innocent what about that makes me evil? Why jump me except I'm also a very vocal player. HN also named other players but DD wouldn't have the posts on them to pull up a case. She still hasn't pulled up a case on me either though.

I believe DD is Grinch, she knew Niko wasn't on her team and went to lynch him, once the ball got rolling and others took over she switched to another innocent. I believe she investigated me last night, to make sure i wasn't a disconnected elf, and found me innocent and coupled with HNs aggressive nature is using that as a springboard all the while staying on Charlie to not look like she is jumping to another innocent,since she has already been called on doing it.

Remember the Grinch has only gotten 1 investigation so far, nights 2 3 and 4 according to the rules.

[Grins]

Beth, why are you saying sorry to Mad?


I'd like to know the answer to that one myself. Although I can of course guess.

[Madcrawdad]

I'd like to know the answer to that one myself. Although I can of course guess.

Grins....why didn't you open the present we sent you?

Also, in order for there to be any chance for tomorrow for the town, Blitzen NEEDS to kill me tonight....

[Grins]

Because I didn't want to take a chance of it turning me evil. Would you have taken that risk?

[jpappy789]

Grins....why didn't you open the present we sent you?

Also, in order for there to be any chance for tomorrow for the town, Blitzen NEEDS to kill me tonight....
Mad this works only IF you are a communicating innocent and only IF the evils hit you tonight.

For all we know you may be trying to guarantee that blitzen sends the lump of coal to an evil to seal the deal for you guys.

[Madcrawdad]

Mad this works only IF you are a communicating innocent and only IF the evils hit you tonight.

For all we know you may be trying to guarantee that blitzen sends the lump of coal to an evil to seal the deal for you guys.

It's almost an unwinnable situation for the town, period. Scum wouldn't need to go through all this trouble for the win....

[Rbishop]

about one hour to go...

[Grins]

As if my nerves weren't bad enough Bala. I vote to lynch Bala

[Rbishop]

50 minutes....

:grinyes:

[jpappy789]

It's almost an unwinnable situation for the town, period. Scum wouldn't need to go through all this trouble for the win....
But all the evils have to do now is hit another person and with you gone they win, the odds are that they hit an innocent. No offense mad but you arent really anything special right now. IF you are a communicating innocent the only thing you can do is name another innocent...basically you are another number so they do not NEED to hit you. Unless the are trying to play it safe and just get an innocent for sure.

And true the evils dont need to do all this to win but there is nothing stoping them from an almost clean sweep. They could easily end it now, if you are evil and they coal is sent to you.

[Dangerdoll]

*sigh* my replies are in red. First I want to start off by saying, sheesh Ice, you really are becoming obvious. No, you and your team are not going without us lynching at least one of you. Seems to me that someone is panicking.... I'm surprise really that Charlie isn;'t more vocal and he's letting you do all the work.

Beth thats the only list I had and was from days ago. Yes I've been wrong a couple of times as has most of the town. You think DD is innocent but you forget she was the one that jumped onto Niko the very 1st day. Then the copy and pasted email. I think she wanted to make a post but wanted to make sure everyone on her team was okay with what she was going to say. Once she got the okay she accidentally copied to much and pasted it.
Ice, I jumped on Niko on the first day, just like others jumped on other people. Everybody knows that day 1 is a crapshoot and Niko looked like the most suspicious with his posting and then trying to weasle out of what he said. I've explained this time and time again. As far as the post and email thing, I admitted my error, explained and am targetted by the Grinch and elves as fiercely because it's all you have because you know I am innocent. I believe you and your team investigated me at one point and found that I am no elf and can't take that I am on to you.

Same thing as I just posted to Beth that you need to look at about the email Jpap. We all know DD doesn't need coaching but a lot of the time the evils go in with a plan. This game they have controlled us from the start. I think she wanted to clear the post with the others.
As was mentioned, I never have needed "clearing up" when I was evil in past games, what in your right mind would think if I was evil this game that I would need to "clear my post"??


I agree being all over the place doesn't help us at all.

We only have 6 innocents vs 5 evils.
Charlie makes 4 evils, I am goign to venture on some more of your list as being you, Mad, and possibly Grins. Last, not quite sure. Blue, maybe

If they lynch innocent and hit innocent its game over.
I am teling you all, Charlie is innocent. I guarantee it, I am now knowing that I am probably going to be hit tonight. If Charlie is not Evil, I take full repsonsibility for the entire game.

What is even worse is that Blitzen happens tonight.

We need to lynch an evil (6-4) and hope that Blitzen hits an innocent which would make it (5-4) and hope they hit one of their own 5-3. If they hit an innocent then its 4-4.

If we lynch an evil(6-4) and Blitzen hits an evil (5-5) and they hit an innocent its (5-4 evils) .

Beths posts are all over the place. Her suspicions are only on those who have called her out. She followed a player she thought was evil onto another player. I don't think she is the grinch though.

Here, Ice is completely trying to break this 3-3 tie between Charlie and Beth. I have a feeling Beth is innocent from this.

I still feel that DD is our best bet at Grinch.

how very wrong, especially knowing exactly who the Grinch is.

Her post that she knows HN is innocent is more disturbing knowing that Mad claims to be one of the communicating innocent left. So she was communicating with evils.
I never said I know HN is innocent, I was merely saying that I'll bet he is or I have a feeling he is. Fact is, I don't know but by your posting, you're not helping make him seem guilty.

Also did anyone notice that DD wasn't on me till HN mentioned me? And how she has been trying to twist my posts?

I'm not as sure that HN is evil as I am of DD. HN has had his moments that made me think he was but I also think that DD could be taking advantage of his aggressiveness.
I wasn't on you until you came at me head on as I began my suspicions and guarantee's that charlie was evil. You made me come at you all by yourself. Imagine that, huh



I feel as I am already out. Ice, this is the most *gah* move you have made in all Mafia's. Just why would you even push for the Santa to come out. Yes, I am Santa. The reason I am saying it tonight is because I feel as if you and your team have already investigated me and I now have a green cross on my head. The reason I didn't come out any sooner is because as I've seen in past games, I tried to keep it together and go as far as I could especially with Rudolph being taken out so soon... it looks like I am left with no choice.

I really thought that DD would try to pull the Santa card, all evils try as a last gasp try to confuse the town especially when being looked at and want to lynch their suspect.

So I was thinking about it and decided to play what if...


Lets go with that DD is Santa.

She was all over Niko Day 1. Day 2 she changed her mind and made Charlie her number 1 suspect while keeping the suspicion on Niko. Does that mean even though Niko was her highest suspect that she decided instead to investigate Charlie based on him not role playing with her? Wouldn't you investigate your top suspect? I don't believe she made any investigations at all.
I was all over Niko the first night. I had nothing to go on. I was looking for Rudolph the first night, I investigated Charlie (of course)... he was confirmed evil.

Night 2 she decides to jump on me AFTER HN names me in a post. Then claims HN is innocent. Did she investigate HN? Even if HN is innocent what about that makes me evil? Why jump me except I'm also a very vocal player. HN also named other players but DD wouldn't have the posts on them to pull up a case. She still hasn't pulled up a case on me either though.
I never jumped on you the second night til you jumped on me. The second night I investigated Plant... an innocent

I believe DD is Grinch, she knew Niko wasn't on her team and went to lynch him, once the ball got rolling and others took over she switched to another innocent. I believe she investigated me last night, to make sure i wasn't a disconnected elf, and found me innocent and coupled with HNs aggressive nature is using that as a springboard all the while staying on Charlie to not look like she is jumping to another innocent,since she has already been called on doing it.

Remember the Grinch has only gotten 1 investigation so far, nights 2 3 and 4 according to the rules.
what's messed up is I should have stuck with investigating you but last minute decided on plant, I didn't think rb would set me and you together

right, one more night. You guys must be flipping. People, I urge you to switch your votes to keep this game alive and please please please look at my suspicions and those on me.

[Madcrawdad]

But all the evils have to do now is hit another person and with you gone they win, the odds are that they hit an innocent. No offense mad but you arent really anything special right now. IF you are a communicating innocent the only thing you can do is name another innocent...basically you are another number so they do not NEED to hit you. Unless the are trying to play it safe and just get an innocent for sure.

In order for the town to exist tomorrow, the Grinch needs to accidentally hit scum tonight. There's at least one non-communicating scumbag left. They don't know for sure who that person is.....they now know that I am not that person. Therefore a hit on me makes the most sense for the win tonight, although an investigation may have yielded another innocent. If Blitzen takes me out, they still stay an innocent and the Grinch still may need to worry about not hitting the noncommunicating scum. Make sense?

And true the evils dont need to do all this to win but there is nothing stoping them from an almost clean sweep. They could easily end it now, if you are evil and they coal is sent to you.

response in blue...

[Dangerdoll]

I am Santa folks... there is not a lot of time. I urge you to follow my suspect list and see what you can for all that were on me, Ice being the most aggressive.

Vote for Charlie, he is my confirmed Elf

[IceH2O]

I am Santa folks... there is not a lot of time. I urge you to follow my suspect list and see what you can for all that were on me, Ice being the most aggressive.

Vote for Charlie, he is my confirmed Elf

And there it is guys, knew she'd pull it lol


Look at her post where she quotes me:


She says:

I am teling you all, Charlie is innocent. I guarantee it, I am now knowing that I am probably going to be hit tonight. If Charlie is not Evil, I take full repsonsibility for the entire game.


Is he innocent or evil?

You're so bad at being bad DD, nice try though.

[Hooked Newbie]

I am Santa folks... there is not a lot of time. I urge you to follow my suspect list and see what you can for all that were on me, Ice being the most aggressive.

Vote for Charlie, he is my confirmed Elf

My vote is already there. If you are Santa, in case you're hit tonight and the town survives... who else have you investigated?

[IceH2O]

Hooked she isn't Santa.

Shes just trying to out the real Santa.

I really wish you'd look at the facts, I know we usually have our run ins but today is not the day to do it.

Why would DD think Charlie was Rudolph of all the players?

[jpappy789]

And there it is guys, knew she'd pull it lol


Look at her post where she quotes me:


She says:

I am teling you all, Charlie is innocent. I guarantee it, I am now knowing that I am probably going to be hit tonight. If Charlie is not Evil, I take full repsonsibility for the entire game.


Is he innocent or evil?

You're so bad at being bad DD, nice try though.

Ice I think it was a typo...here she guarantees that Chas is evil and with her vote on him I am inclined to believe her over you at this point...

[charlie_stubbs]

shes lying. there going to kill me
I'm Santa. Results:
HN night one- evil
DD night two- evil (i had to switch from Coler At the last second)

[charlie_stubbs]

neither is the grinch

[Dangerdoll]

Investigated Plantling - Innocent
Tonight, my investigation is on Ice

Ordinarily, I wouldn't say who I would be investigating tonight but it looks as if I have no choice. I also want to point out that if Ice is in fact "part of the communicating team", he has called out his whole party. Another seriously bad move.

[Hooked Newbie]

Hooked she isn't Santa.

Shes just trying to out the real Santa.

I really wish you'd look at the facts, I know we usually have our run ins but today is not the day to do it.

Why would DD think Charlie was Rudolph of all the players?

Maybe. I said if. I'd like to at least see who she says she investigated. And truthfully right now, I have her more innocent than you.

[jpappy789]

Hooked she isn't Santa.

Shes just trying to out the real Santa.

I really wish you'd look at the facts, I know we usually have our run ins but today is not the day to do it.

Why would DD think Charlie was Rudolph of all the players?

ok Ice that line is just a dumb way to try to discredit DD imo...santa isnt just trying to find rudolph. I think it is pretty obvious that if DD really is santa she investigated Chas on suspicion that he was in fact evil...

I am starting to believe that your motives arent pure

[charlie_stubbs]

i think HN voted for Jpap for distancing, since i think he knew i had him and the jig was up.
Jpap may be the grinch

[Madcrawdad]

shes lying. there going to kill me
I'm Santa. Results:
HN night one- evil
DD night two- evil (i had to switch from Coler At the last second)


Chas....why'd you jump on Niko (from HN) on Night 2 if you knew he was scum?

[charlie_stubbs]

HN you didnt get a pm that said elf helping santa, my evil little pointy eared friend.

[Dangerdoll]

shes lying. there going to kill me
I'm Santa. Results:
HN night one- evil
DD night two- evil (i had to switch from Coler At the last second)

OMG... I can't even believe you would do that... Charlie, I do not know how much I can even take from you. Again... gosh... you have twisted the knife, "my dear".


Hooked she isn't Santa.

Shes just trying to out the real Santa.

I really wish you'd look at the facts, I know we usually have our run ins but today is not the day to do it.

Why would DD think Charlie was Rudolph of all the players?

Ok Ice, why wouldn't I investigate Charlie? Rb is notorious for setting roles up, I felt for sure he woul;d put me and Charlie together.

[IceH2O]

ok Ice that line is just a dumb way to try to discredit DD imo...santa isnt just trying to find rudolph. I think it is pretty obvious that if DD really is santa she investigated Chas on suspicion that he was in fact evil...

I am starting to believe that your motives arent pure

She claimed she was looking for Rudolph then claimed to investigate Charlie

[charlie_stubbs]

because i thought niko was evil, and hn and dd would get me hanged for not voting there

[jpappy789]

shes lying. there going to kill me
I'm Santa. Results:
HN night one- evil
DD night two- evil (i had to switch from Coler At the last second)

pretty nice track record Chas, almost too good but then again when I was det I found a lot of scum right away


...I am confused as to why DD chose plant though...seems too easy to put the hit innocent on there. She easily could have chosen someone way more suspicious night one like coler and said that she knew he was rudoplh and was communicating but couldnt say that less she out herself. Naming Chas as her evil also seems too easy as I think she is trying to sway more votes to him. Probably because beth is a teammate of hers...

[Dangerdoll]

HN you didnt get a pm that said elf helping santa, my evil little pointy eared friend.

I wonder if Grins is guilty too at this point.

[Hooked Newbie]

i think HN voted for Jpap for distancing, since i think he knew i had him and the jig was up.
Jpap may be the grinch

Wow... who said that?! Um, if I wanted to "distance" and was evil, I wouldn't name the Grinch. I don't believe you would either so if you're lyched and found evil it pretty much clears Pappy. Hmmm... who's that leave... Ice, JL, Grins?

[charlie_stubbs]

because i thought niko was evil, and hn and dd would get me hanged for not voting there
the above is to mad

[IceH2O]

OMG... I can't even believe you would do that... Charlie, I do not know how much I can even take from you. Again... gosh... you have twisted the knife, "my dear".



Ok Ice, why wouldn't I investigate Charlie? Rb is notorious for setting roles up, I felt for sure he woul;d put me and Charlie together.

If you say so, how many times in all these games have you two been placed together except the time I did it?

[charlie_stubbs]

I wonder if Grins is guilty too at this point.
so do I, but im investigating Ice tonight

[Dangerdoll]

She claimed she was looking for Rudolph then claimed to investigate Charlie
I fully thought Charlie was Rudolph.

I investigated plant because since it wasn;t charlie, I thought maybe it would be someone I would never expect.

[Hooked Newbie]

shes lying. there going to kill me
I'm Santa. Results:
HN night one- evil
DD night two- evil (i had to switch from Coler At the last second)


That seals it. ****, I shoulda pushed my first feelings on day 1 you evil rat!

[charlie_stubbs]

if im not hanged. i will be hit, but you were going to hit me anyway

[IceH2O]

I fully thought Charlie was Rudolph.

I investigated plant because since it wasn;t charlie, I thought maybe it would be someone I would never expect.

And Plant fits that bill?

How about a newb?

[Rbishop]

to lynch....

hook (2) cs mad

beth (3) grins jl66 blue

cs (3) DD jpap hook

DD (2) gup ice

blue (1) beth

all have voted.....

[Hooked Newbie]

so do I, but im investigating Ice tonight


You are lying! Anyone online right now needs to vote for you including your team mates or we'll see you all. Ice will be next if we survive the night.

[IceH2O]

I don't think Charlie is Santa either, I think he might be evil along with DD though

[charlie_stubbs]

i have switched my invest to jpap
i hope he's the grinch, but it wont matter I guess

[jpappy789]

Well Chas I hope it changes your mind but with you guys now knowing who the real santa is I guess I am not much of a target anymore

I am blitzen!

I first had the coal sent to Chas, then changed it to beth hoping she is innocent and it wouldnt kill another but we would still need an evil anyways that is why I am so confused as to what to do. That is why I am trying to figure out if mad really is a communicating innocent or if he is lying...

[charlie_stubbs]

I don't think Charlie is Santa either, I think he might be evil along with DD though
then hang me and find out. or let them hit me. either way you're going to find out tonight

[Grins]

My thoughts right now.

DD and Ice are not on a communicating team
DD and Charlie are not on a communicating team
Mad is innocent
HN I'm confused about but not getting a strong vibe

and where are all the others? Gup? JL? Beth? etc.?

[Hooked Newbie]

Grins- I see you. Are you gonna keep the vote on Beth with your team mates and hope for the 50 / 50?

[Hooked Newbie]

I don't think Charlie is Santa either, I think he might be evil along with DD though

I KNOW Charlie is not Santa.

[IceH2O]

They are trying to pull the wool over our eyes and confuse the heck out of us.

She stays on Charlie and its the perfect cover as no one was staying on him, if we all jumped to him the others will just jump to an innocent, probably someone they think isn't here from lack of posting.

[charlie_stubbs]

9

[charlie_stubbs]

I KNOW Charlie is not Santa.
now your santa??? I thought keebler owned your ***

[charlie_stubbs]

7

[Madcrawdad]

so do I, but im investigating Ice tonight


i have switched my invest to jpap
i hope he's the grinch, but it wont matter I guess

why?

DD, who are you investigating?

[Grins]

And now Jpap comes out and says that he is Blitzen? With only a few minutes left...DD, if you're Santa, who do you think is Blitzen? Do we need to off Blitzen to save us?

[IceH2O]

I KNOW Charlie is not Santa.

You claiming it now too?

[jpappy789]

And Plant fits that bill?

How about a newb?

exactly my thoughts...why plant? too convinient.

she could at least have chosen clown lover and said that he was evil to leave some room for questioning...but plant???

[Hooked Newbie]

They are trying to pull the wool over our eyes and confuse the heck out of us.

She stays on Charlie and its the perfect cover as no one was staying on him, if we all jumped to him the others will just jump to an innocent, probably someone they think isn't here from lack of posting.

They can move from me onto Beth if she's innocent and end the game. I know Charlie's lying.

[IceH2O]

Wow guys this isn't helping us at all, they are trying to confuse us and lynch an innocent so they win.

[Grins]

Grins- I see you. Are you gonna keep the vote on Beth with your team mates and hope for the 50 / 50?

I see me too damnit and I'm trying to catch up with what you guys are saying and are looking for help on if I should change. Do you think DD is Santa? Is JPap Blitzen?

[Madcrawdad]

Well Chas I hope it changes your mind but with you guys now knowing who the real santa is I guess I am not much of a target anymore

I am blitzen!

I first had the coal sent to Chas, then changed it to beth hoping she is innocent and it wouldnt kill another but we would still need an evil anyways that is why I am so confused as to what to do. That is why I am trying to figure out if mad really is a communicating innocent or if he is lying...

telling the truth....we sent present B to beth... KILL ME JPAP!

[jpappy789]

And now Jpap comes out and says that he is Blitzen? With only a few minutes left...DD, if you're Santa, who do you think is Blitzen? Do we need to off Blitzen to save us?
Grins I am still an innocent loss if gone!!!:wall:

And how are you suddenly choosing DD over Chas...where are your thoughts on that???

[Hooked Newbie]

You claiming it now too?

Nope, but I know that an investigation on me wouldn't show what he said it did.

[charlie_stubbs]

thats howls. We have three Santas. The real one is going to get killed. my list:
HN
DD

[IceH2O]

I retract my vote on DD and vote to lynch Beth

[Madcrawdad]

unvote HN, I vote to lynch Chas

[charlie_stubbs]

telling the truth....we sent present B to beth... KILL ME JPAP!
do it Jpap

[Grins]

Grins I am still an innocent loss if gone!!!:wall:

And how are you suddenly choosing DD over Chas...where are your thoughts on that???


I'm not suddenly choosing anyone. I have said before what looked fishy to me about DD but now you guys are all posting so fast I don't know what to think.

[charlie_stubbs]

twas the night before christmas

[Hooked Newbie]

I retract my vote on DD and vote to lynch Beth

True colors!

[IceH2O]

Shoot I thought I typed Charlie......

[charlie_stubbs]

i retract my vote for hn and vote to lynch beth

[Rbishop]

It is Night...

[IceH2O]

Hope I have time
to switch

[jpappy789]

True colors!

I agree, Ice is obviously evil...along with Chas I believe. Possibly jl and blue or grins methinks.

[jpappy789]

sorry rb...for posting but we lost

[charlie_stubbs]

SSSSHHHHHHHHHHHH

[jpappy789]

sshhhh to you evil scum you!

[Rbishop]

final votes.....


beth (5) grins jl66 blue ice cs

cs (4) DD jpap hook mad

DD (1) gup

blue (1) beth

[Rbishop]

lynch...Beth....an Innocent....

hit...DD....an Innocent....and Santa....

coal...Mad....an Innocent....


Game Over...Mafia Win.....

[charlie_stubbs]

lynch...Beth....an Innocent....

hit...DD....an Innocent....and Santa....

coal...Mad....an Innocent....


Game Over...Mafia Win.....
huh??? I thought my pm said santa??? I'm confused

[IceH2O]

Yeah Baby!!!!!!


Thank you DD for letting us know who the lone evil elf was.

[Rbishop]

Original Mafia....

judge...the Grinch
kuhli
blue
ice
grins

jl66
charlie

I moved Grins to the Grinch when JM had to drop out, and jl66 to the communicating side.

[charlie_stubbs]

oh wait i just double checked it, it says disconnected elf trying to kill santa. My bad. i wont skim anymore, i swear.

[IceH2O]

Charlie I was about to come out as Santa, I had a nice post all ready for it glad I saw you did it lmao.

[IceH2O]

THAT was the BEST night fall in a long time.

[Dangerdoll]

huh??? I thought my pm said santa??? I'm confused
:cry:

[Hooked Newbie]

Good game you evil bastages!

[Rbishop]

huh??? I thought my pm said santa??? I'm confused


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[charlie_stubbs]

Please DD the devil made me do it. Can i get a mulligan, my sweet sweet santa??

[IceH2O]

Beth, did you open the present?

Did you know you had a double vote?


Why would you waste it on Blue?

[clown-lover]

Good game you guys.. GRINS Hon.. Next game you and I play together your gonna be my first vote for a lynch.. You have less of a chance of surviving than I do.. LOL

Good Job guys.. DD man.. I thought you were the Grinch.. LOL

[charlie_stubbs]

Charlie I was about to come out as Santa, I had a nice post all ready for it glad I saw you did it lmao.
hahahaha i had a poem i made switching the words for twas the night before christmas but i lost it and there wasnt time to retype it hahahahah it was a good one too

[Rbishop]

present "A", that was delivered to Grins and refused, would have doubled her vote....

present "B", that was delivered to Beth and refused, would have chnaged her to evil...

[Grins]

oh wait i just double checked it, it says disconnected elf trying to kill santa. My bad. i wont skim anymore, i swear.


You are the best non-communicating elf this grinch ever did have!:grinyes:

[Grins]

Good game you guys.. GRINS Hon.. Next game you and I play together your gonna be my first vote for a lynch.. You have less of a chance of surviving than I do.. LOL

Good Job guys.. DD man.. I thought you were the Grinch.. LOL

What me? Why I'm just a newbie. The other ones totally coached me. Not a single word I typed was my own.

[charlie_stubbs]

it was hard being evil with no buddies to help me. I was hoping HN was innocent, but if he was evil the town would have trusted me more, so i targeted HN.

[Hooked Newbie]

Rb-

Please post the dang email you sent to me. WHY on earthh was it worded differently?! Another Rb mind-screw?

[Rbishop]

I will start Mafia #19 tomorrow afternoon, around 4 PM EST.

People can still sign up until then.

This is really the 20th game....get those PMs out to the 63 players that have been part of our world!

[charlie_stubbs]

wheres madcrawdad??? crying??? dont worry mad, you'll get another chance to clean up this town

[Hooked Newbie]

it was hard being evil with no buddies to help me. I was hoping HN was innocent, but if he was evil the town would have trusted me more, so i targeted HN.

Gee thanks Buddy. lol

[charlie_stubbs]

ahhhh i feel so relieved. Being evil is too much work, RB please make me a townie from now on

[Dangerdoll]

Please DD the devil made me do it. Can i get a mulligan, my sweet sweet santa??
:silly:

Good game you guys.. GRINS Hon.. Next game you and I play together your gonna be my first vote for a lynch.. You have less of a chance of surviving than I do.. LOL

Good Job guys.. DD man.. I thought you were the Grinch.. LOL
LOL man, if y ou guys would just give me a chance for once, I can be the good guy LOL

[clown-lover]

What me? Why I'm just a newbie. The other ones totally coached me. Not a single word I typed was my own.

Um Grins.. The game is over.. :D :liar:

And if you expect me to believe that would you like to purchase a bridge in Alaska that goes to an island that only 50 people live on??? Oh darn that one isn't built yet.

[Madcrawdad]

wheres madcrawdad??? crying??? dont worry mad, you'll get another chance to clean up this town

No...doing some Christmas decorating w/ the kids. Good game, guys.

[Grins]

Nuh uh, even Santa said I was coached right?

[Grins]

No...doing some Christmas decorating w/ the kids. Good game, guys.


You too Mad.

[Rbishop]

Rb-

Please post the dang email you sent to me. WHY on earthh was it worded differently?! Another Rb mind-screw?


I confess.....Hooked was the only person I desginated as a good elf by PM/e-mail.....

...that will teach you to argue with me on day ones....



:grinyes::grinyes::grinyes::grinyes:

[Blueiz]

:headbang2:

I have to say... WOOHOOO!! I MADE IT TO THE END without anyone really suspecting me at all.. without being really interogated...

Great game, looking forward to the next one.

[charlie_stubbs]

Gee thanks Buddy. lol
Hahahahah sorry man, its kind of a compliment, as I saw you as our biggest threat if you were innocent, but i admit i was never really sure you weren't evil. i just tried to target a top player, and constant thorn in the evils side (when you're not evil that is.)
I was hoping that if you were innocent i could get you lynched, and keep you off stride by attacking you, keeping your focus on me

[IceH2O]

hahahaha i had a poem i made switching the words for twas the night before christmas but i lost it and there wasnt time to retype it hahahahah it was a good one too

you can still post it

[Madcrawdad]

Rb-

Please post the dang email you sent to me. WHY on earthh was it worded differently?! Another Rb mind-screw?

Sorry, HN....just didn't make any sense. Like I said, none of ours said elf.

[clown-lover]

I confess.....Hooked was the only person I desginated as a good elf by PM/e-mail.....

...that will teach you to argue with me on day ones....



:grinyes::grinyes::grinyes::grinyes:

:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

Revenge is sweet Bob??? LOL

[IceH2O]

Not all my posts are worded the same either....Usually half are innocents and the other half are villagers

[charlie_stubbs]

Nuh uh, even Santa said I was coached right?
i hope you will play again Grins, you played awesome. The price you will pay for this victory is you will find your name on a lot of lists now with "gut feel" posted beside it.

[Grins]

:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

Revenge is sweet Bob??? LOL


By the way, I still vote to lynch Bob.

[Grins]

i hope you will play again Grins, you played awesome. The price you will pay for this victory is you will find your name on a lot of lists now with "gut feel" posted beside it.

I don't know..I do know this though I will never trust ANY of you after this game.

[charlie_stubbs]

that was awesome, at nightfall my hands were actually shaking and my heart was pounding. I thought it was going to come unravelled

[Grins]

that was awesome, at nightfall my hands were actually shaking and my heart was pounding. I thought it was going to come unravelled


You had us all high fiving in our evil lair.

[clown-lover]

I don't know..I do know this though I will never trust ANY of you after this game.

Hey.. I was innocent!

[Rbishop]

I don't know..I do know this though I will never trust ANY of you after this game.


Well, Grins, with that in mid..."please do not use crushed coral, it will keep your SW tank to clean....."

[Grins]

Nope, I'm still convinced you were evil. I mean c'mon..look at that avatar.

[Dangerdoll]

Nuh uh, even Santa said I was coached right?
hehehe, there were times when I was like "ummm... what??" LOL

[charlie_stubbs]

You had us all high fiving in our evil lair.
hahahahahahaha

[Hooked Newbie]

I confess.....Hooked was the only person I desginated as a good elf by PM/e-mail.....

...that will teach you to argue with me on day ones....



:grinyes::grinyes::grinyes::grinyes:

Grrrr... whoever Mods the next game that Bob and I both play... PLEASE put us on opposing sides! :devil:

[Grins]

Well, Grins, with that in mid..."please do not use crushed coral, it will keep your SW tank to clean....."


lol, speaking of that where in the heck has Max been?

[johnlarson66]

I missed the fireworks.

Good game everyone.

We knew charlie was the lone evil. Thanks Santa. He was also the only one that caught my major mess up getting beth and grins confused. Skimming is such a scum tell.

Was beth with the innocents that could talk? I thought HN was blitzen.

[Grins]

At the risk of sounding sappy, I really enjoying getting to know some of you freaky FW people a bit better. Especially my evil teammates, and that includes you JM. Now to get you all to switch to SW...

[IceH2O]

I don't know..I do know this though I will never trust ANY of you after this game.

Not even me?

[clown-lover]

At the risk of sounding sappy, I really enjoying getting to know some of you freaky FW people a bit better. Especially my evil teammates, and that includes you JM. Now to get you all to switch to SW...
JM has a salty tank.. Already have HN hooked :D, and well there is a secret about Bob as well.... But your gonna have to pay DEARLY for that one..

[Grins]

hehehe, there were times when I was like "ummm... what??" LOL


My pride wanted to say "the hell I am" a few times but I bit my lip. You are a clever woman, I'll not forget that if I brave the game again.

[jpappy789]

I was jl...

anyways I had all you guys named...but at the end :D

[Grins]

Not even me?


Especially you.

[judgemax]

who me?..lmao?

[charlie_stubbs]

post your evil diaries link

[Grins]

I was jl...

anyways I had all you guys named...but at the end :D


Funny thing JPap, they told me to suprise them with who I investigated tonight. I had put you in.

[Hooked Newbie]

My pride wanted to say "the hell I am" a few times but I bit my lip. You are a clever woman, I'll not forget that if I brave the game again.

You have to play again. I want a chance to lynch you properly.

CL- I don't know... a good case could be made that SW is the devil from those you listed!

[Grins]

who me?..lmao?


Pfft you are aways evil I hear.

[judgemax]

You have to play again. I want a chance to lynch you properly.

CL- I don't know... a good case could be made that SW is the devil from those you listed!

you then would fit quite well...

[Rbishop]

the communicating innocents...

Mad, gup, andi, plant

[IceH2O]

Grins is the Rookie of the Year IMO.

say what she wants but she wasn't coached all that much we basically just answered any questions she had.

[IceH2O]

post your evil diaries link

We did it all on one of the messenger services.

[clown-lover]

Grins is the Rookie of the Year IMO.

say what she wants but she wasn't coached all that much we basically just answered any questions she had.

Ok Grins.. EXHIBIT A... :liar:

[Grins]

Oh and by the way..I have a confession...I'm Santa.

[Dangerdoll]

LMAO!

[Grins]

Ok Grins.. EXHIBIT A... :liar:


Are you really going to fall for that? He is just setting the stage to lynch me if we both play again.

[jpappy789]

Funny thing JPap, they told me to suprise them with who I investigated tonight. I had put you in.
hmmm...

[Grins]

LMAO!


How funny was that? I'm Santa. No I'm Santa. No I am.

[judgemax]

Oh and by the way..I have a confession...I'm Santa.

oh to funny! lmao, you so need to play, i would actually like to play a game with you!

[clown-lover]

Are you really going to fall for that? He is just setting the stage to lynch me if we both play again.

Actually yes..

[Rbishop]

rbishop thinks a bunch of people need some serious therapy sessions.....

[Madcrawdad]

Next game rb should assign the UD roles to somebody else... seems like King and Coler always get them :)

[Grins]

oh to funny! lmao, you so need to play, i would actually like to play a game with you!


Well we started off that way. Then you ditched me with the furry green suit. :silly:

[jpappy789]

Hey I posted some thoughts on my idea for modding in the 'mafia games' thread...please comment on what you think about it!!! :)

great game guys look forward to #19!!! I cant believe we are almost at 20!!!

[IceH2O]

I should have just posted I was santa instead of posting that I expected DD to play the Santa Card.

I had it all worked out that Andi was my 1st invest since she was the one I suspected for her rules mix up and thinking she might be Rudolph or Blitzen because she wanted us to leave the reindeer alone.

then 2nd invest was CL till he dropped then Coler, because of the fight. When Coler was going to UD I switched to Mad.


It was going to be more detailed.

Anyone had bought it?

[Hooked Newbie]

We did it all on one of the messenger services.

Yea, you were HidInBushes...

[IceH2O]

Yea, you were HidInBushes...

Nope I use that on all of the games to spy on you guys.

Used one of the other services.

[charlie_stubbs]

I should have just posted I was santa instead of posting that I expected DD to play the Santa Card.

I had it all worked out that Andi was my 1st invest since she was the one I suspected for her rules mix up and thinking she might be Rudolph or Blitzen because she wanted us to leave the reindeer alone.

then 2nd invest was CL till he dropped then Coler, because of the fight. When Coler was going to UD I switched to Mad.


It was going to be more detailed.

Anyone had bought it?

hahahah i might have bought it. but i was pretty sure DD was Santa when she came after me

[judgemax]

Well we started off that way. Then you ditched me with the furry green suit. :silly:

it looked better on you anyway, lmao!

[Madcrawdad]

Hey I posted some thoughts on my idea for modding in the 'mafia games' thread...please comment on what you think about it!!! :)

great game guys look forward to #19!!! I cant believe we are almost at 20!!!

If I recall, it was one evil serial killer? Just curious as to how the town would find them without random guessing... My guess is that all the SK killings would take place at night, so during the day the SK could blend in pretty easily, as they could lynch anyone but themselves.

[charlie_stubbs]

when i was evil the first time, JL made us a site on free forums, and i remember we had a scare when we thought someone had infiltrated the forum. I think they were called the watcher or something, but it turned out to be one of us had changed names. hahahahaha that was funny. we thought we had been compromised, and we made names like pizza delivery boy and ophelia. hehehehehehe

[Rbishop]

Hey I posted some thoughts on my idea for modding in the 'mafia games' thread...please comment on what you think about it!!! :)

great game guys look forward to #19!!! I cant believe we are almost at 20!!!

Actually, #19 is #20...there was the werewolf game that thru everything out of numbering sequence.

I have a spreadsheet that shows who played in every game and what they were or what happened to them.

[judgemax]

Actually, #19 is #20...there was the werewolf game that thru everything out of numbering sequence.

I have a spreadsheet that shows who played in every game and what they were or what happened to them.

would love to see that! would be nice to see how many games some of them have played!...

[jpappy789]

If I recall, it was one evil serial killer? Just curious as to how the town would find them without random guessing... My guess is that all the SK killings would take place at night, so during the day the SK could blend in pretty easily, as they could lynch anyone but themselves.
yeah...but they have an accomplice who if they die would also end the game.

but of course in this game anyone who appears to be blending in would be called out :)

I have another idea but I will have to wait till tomorrow

[Rbishop]

DD holds the record with 18 continuous straight games, #2 thru #18, plus the WW game.

[clown-lover]

DD holds the record with 18 continuous straight games, #2 thru #18, plus the WW game.

That means she gets a shopping spree on your CC right??? (had to try for you hon)

[plantling]

I confess.....Hooked was the only person I desginated as a good elf by PM/e-mail.....

...that will teach you to argue with me on day ones....



:grinyes::grinyes::grinyes::grinyes:
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: Oh man, this made me laugh so hard. Sorry HN it wuz FUNNY!


Nope I use that on all of the games to spy on you guys.

Used one of the other services.
So is that why I was hit, ya sneaky spy!


Actually, #19 is #20...there was the werewolf game that thru everything out of numbering sequence.

I have a spreadsheet that shows who played in every game and what they were or what happened to them.
Wow, now who needs therapy?

Great game guys. I knew Ice was evil. I wanted to IM Mad so bad and tell him he was all wrong about HN, but that would have been cheating and most of it was a gut feel and not much to back it up. I was gonna go after Beth or Ice on day 2 but decided Beth looked scummier. Then if Niko was innocent I was going after Ice, but :angryfire:, they got me first! And Grins was a gut feel, too. JL I had leaning Mafia, but then thought possible Santa. We discussed DD being the grinch also at one point, but Grins fit better to me. And when Grins voted Beth, then JL, and Blue, I figured the team minus Charlie. I was debating between Charlie and JP. I thought mostly JP though. Good Game Everyone. Great job at blindsiding the town, Evil Scumbags.

[Hooked Newbie]

Actually, #19 is #20...there was the werewolf game that thru everything out of numbering sequence.

I have a spreadsheet that shows who played in every game and what they were or what happened to them.

Post it!

Otherwise, it's not fair for you to ever play again... :silly:

[Madcrawdad]

yeah...but they have an accomplice who if they die would also end the game.

but of course in this game anyone who appears to be blending in would be called out :)

I have another idea but I will have to wait till tomorrow

Well don't nix it on my account....Just wanted clarification. Sounds like a neat idea.

[Grins]

Actually, #19 is #20...there was the werewolf game that thru everything out of numbering sequence.

I have a spreadsheet that shows who played in every game and what they were or what happened to them.

I recall asking for that oh dear Bala.

[Grins]

Great game guys. I knew Ice was evil. I wanted to IM Mad so bad and tell him he was all wrong about HN, but that would have been cheating and most of it was a gut feel and not much to back it up. I was gonna go after Beth or Ice on day 2 but decided Beth looked scummier. Then if Niko was innocent I was going after Ice, but :angryfire:, they got me first! And Grins was a gut feel, too. JL I had leaning Mafia, but then thought possible Santa. We discussed DD being the grinch also at one point, but Grins fit better to me. And when Grins voted Beth, then JL, and Blue, I figured the team minus Charlie. I was debating between Charlie and JP. I thought mostly JP though. Good Game Everyone. Great job at blindsiding the town, Evil Scumbags.


:eek: When they suggested hitting you the first night I kept asking "but why Plant?" Now I see why!

[Dangerdoll]

I should have just posted I was santa instead of posting that I expected DD to play the Santa Card.

I had it all worked out that Andi was my 1st invest since she was the one I suspected for her rules mix up and thinking she might be Rudolph or Blitzen because she wanted us to leave the reindeer alone.

then 2nd invest was CL till he dropped then Coler, because of the fight. When Coler was going to UD I switched to Mad.


It was going to be more detailed.

Anyone had bought it?
I was surprised myself that you didnt do it and was actually waiting you out above anyone else. I knew if anyone had the head to do it, you would. Just how would I have gotten out of that, I dunno... it was tough enough trying to back you off.

How my investigations really went were... I did investigate Charlie first night but never in a million years thought he'd be an elf..... I know, what else is new with his fooling me :cry: *ahem* so anyway, my next investigation was actually on Niko. Now, I know, it was stupid of me not to move that invest. but I had it originally on mad... then on Niko and just didn't get back on time until a few minutes later than time to switch it. Niko was a horrible cast because of course, the town is lynching him, why waste the investigation. God, if you guys knew that, you's woulda definitely thought I was the Grinch. I couldn't say that after coming out so I chose plantling.... she was gone that night anyway and no one would have known the wiser except rb :D

My final Investigation was on Ice because he wouldn't leave me alone LOL Man, when Icet gets on your back, he can be quite bothersome, LOL but I love ya still Ice, without you, what would that last night have been?


hahahah i might have bought it. but i was pretty sure DD was Santa when she came after me
because as faithfully as always, you are my first choice :cry:


DD holds the record with 18 continuous straight games, #2 thru #18, plus the WW game.
WOOHOO!!! Can't touch this! *in best Hammertime voice* :headbang2:Where is my diamond studded mafia crown?


That means she gets a shopping spree on your CC right??? (had to try for you hon) Thanks CL... but ok, I woulda really liked the crown, but I guess the CC will do, thank rb.... my address is in your PM :D

[bethkira2000]

great game everyone sorry I am late. I told you I was innocent, and Blueiz I knew you were evil, but to late to save the game.

[Blueiz]

great game everyone sorry I am late. I told you I was innocent, and Blueiz I knew you were evil, but to late to save the game.


Thats what they all say beth...after the game....;)

[johnlarson66]

Thats what they all say beth...after the game....;)

Beth, I am with you, I knew she was evil also.

[judgemax]

Beth, I am with you, I knew she was evil also.

lmao!

[IceH2O]

I don't remember where but I know I slipped up in one of my posts but I'm not looking through to find it.

I'm also surprised no one pointed out that I only made 1 list.

The UDs made it a pretty empty win but since you guys outnumbered us so badly and we lost the one evil we were willing to sacrifice it all equaled out to me.

I was trying to use HNs aggressiveness the entire game then use it against DD but there wasn't really enough time. If Sunday was night fall or I had gotten home yesterday as early as I did today I would have worked it more, came out as Santa with my indepth post and made it so that DD couldn't even think of claiming Santa.

Really the only reason I even mentioned DD and Santa was so we could get the town to lynch her, thought it would be more of a slap in the face to the town. But we kept the hit on her till we were sure if the votes would be there.

We could have stayed quiet,never brought it up and coasted into nightfall but what fun is that?

[Grins]

great game everyone sorry I am late. I told you I was innocent, and Blueiz I knew you were evil, but to late to save the game.

By the way Beth, huge kudos to you for taking so much heat on your first game.

[Grins]

Beth, I am with you, I knew she was evil also.


hey John, maybe its not too late to change your vote?

[Grins]

I don't remember where but I know I slipped up in one of my posts but I'm not looking through to find it.

I'm also surprised no one pointed out that I only made 1 list.

The UDs made it a pretty empty win but since you guys outnumbered us so badly and we lost the one evil we were willing to sacrifice it all equaled out to me.

I was trying to use HNs aggressiveness the entire game then use it against DD but there wasn't really enough time. If Sunday was night fall or I had gotten home yesterday as early as I did today I would have worked it more, came out as Santa with my indepth post and made it so that DD couldn't even think of claiming Santa.

Really the only reason I even mentioned DD and Santa was so we could get the town to lynch her, thought it would be more of a slap in the face to the town. But we kept the hit on her till we were sure if the votes would be there.

We could have stayed quiet,never brought it up and coasted into nightfall but what fun is that?


Frankly, I wasn't sure I'd play another game anytime soon. But that last 10 minutes of the game made up my mind, I'll be around after a few busy weeks at work to play again.

[Hooked Newbie]

Frankly, I wasn't sure I'd play another game anytime soon. But that last 10 minutes of the game made up my mind, I'll be around after a few busy weeks at work to play again.

We'll be here to lynch you!