View Full Version : QT habits of all?
schigara
12-17-2007, 10:46 PM
How many of you strictly and properly QT anything and everything that goes into your display tank? Assuming that any and everything can have the ich protozoa as a hitch-hiker.
I never did until IT happened to my tank. Made me a believer really quick and it did'nt matter how many posts I read about how important it was to QT, it took my tank being taken over by ick until I woke up and saw the proverbial light.
Ignorance like I had, just helps to kill more and more fish and especially Tangs that are very susceptible.
Grins
12-17-2007, 10:54 PM
I QT fish, rocks, and some corals. I do dips on corals as well. I don't QT mobile inverts although I do inspect them as much as possible. I am also very cautious where I've gotten macros from but have admittingly not qt'd them.
Sploke
12-17-2007, 11:11 PM
I didn't qt my liverock, as i fishless cycled. I've started getting most of my corals from local reefers with frag tanks so i don't qt corals...but all fish go through a 4 week QT before they hit my main tank.
schigara
12-17-2007, 11:18 PM
Grins,
Your current avatar is nice but lacks the beauty of your previous avatar.
Grins,
Your current avatar is nice but lacks the beauty of your previous avatar.
You big bum kisser lol:)
schigara
12-17-2007, 11:48 PM
Easy................easy.........let a player play! Got to be true to the truth as well.
You big bum kisser lol:)
mandy21
12-18-2007, 12:26 AM
I only buy fish that look healthy and from one LFS which I trust. I quarantine as much as I can, however I will admit to not putting the Kole Tang I just got into QT due to it being at the LFS for 8 weeks pretty much in its own quarantine there. I also knew that I would have felt horrible putting him in a little QT for 6 weeks. I keep a very close eye on him and at the slightest bit of illness he will venture into a much smaller habitat. 3 of my fish I currently have, I never quarantines but have had 2 of them for 3 years.
I do dips on corals or do a thorough inspection. So far, I have had no problems, but I am also extremely cautious in terms of what I buy despite my insane amount of money spent the last few months on my tank. Anything from any other store but my current LFS would get quarantined for a full 6 weeks.
Live rock went through the cycle and have absolutely no aiptasia. One rock from LFS had aiptasia and it is now sitting in a tank and i'm trying to decide whether I want to boil and bake it and put back into qt to ensure I'm not putting that crap in my main tank.
Subliminal
12-18-2007, 8:13 AM
Many times fish get the ich FROM the fish store. That's the case at 2 of the stores around me.
I think people only don't QT until they really have to deal with a nice disease outbreak. Especially if it's in a reef tank where display treatment is not an option.
Personally, I just don't put anything in my tank anymore, so there's no reason to QT. ;)
clown-lover
12-18-2007, 8:37 AM
I QT all fish period.. Corals I lean more to a lugols dip and my new clam I didn't dip or QT I really didn't see a need to and honestly the lighting on my QT couldn't have supported him.
OldManOfTheSea
12-18-2007, 8:49 AM
I have to agree with Subliminal on that in the LFS due too the fact that they are always having new arrivals with fish going in and out of the tanks. There has to be stress pretty much all the time and how can anyone consider that just because any fish been at their LFS for a certain number of weeks, that they consider its already been quarantine. For one thing, I never known any LFS to have available a QT to quarantine the fish for its buyers.
Many of us have our differences on the inhabitants quarantine period for most do so for only a week or two and so often I had witnessed fish getting ich even after that period. Of course, it all depends on how we all do certain things like in our tanks maintenance and stocking methods.
I totally agree with mandy21 on quarantine for six weeks and longer if any medications were needed.
Put one thing is certainly a NO-NO and that is if any of you take anything from the oceans itself, never place these into your main tank, "NEVER" for which then those will be asking for problems.
Catpicklesdog
12-18-2007, 8:58 AM
In the 3 years I've been in the hobby I have never QT'd a fish yet and never had a disease. Yes I'm probably asking for trouble but.......
I do trust my LFS having helped him out a couple of times and I know how he treats his fish.
On the other hand, as much as I like them, I would never have a regal or powder blue tang as in my eyes they are the most prone to Ich and I don't want to risk it.
SHK_ATK
12-18-2007, 12:48 PM
I have qt fish in the past and have ended loosing them due to qt. Prob since most of the fish where juvi tangs. I have also been bold enought to put fish right into a display tank and had no probs. The only fish I EVER had break out in ich has been my regal. I tried hypo for 6 weeks and it comes back. JUST on the regal. But that was many months ago. The only thing I have added to the tank has been clams and I did not qt those as those came from someones frag tank.
Star_Rider
12-18-2007, 2:06 PM
I learned the hard way..qt is the best method..I qt for 6 weeks..if there is an outbreak I qt for 4-6 weeks longer.
I had a baby hippo, scopas and some reef chromis in my qt for 10 weeks.. 4 weeks in they developed ich..treated them and qt was continues for 6 weeks(2wwek treatment) 4 weeks post treatment.
they are all happy in the main tank now. going on 4 months in the main tank.
Grins,
Your current avatar is nice but lacks the beauty of your previous avatar.
Disagree, Butters is a hottie.
due to it being at the LFS for 8 weeks pretty much in its own quarantine there.
Just a note for those not aware of it, don't assume that a fish being in it's own tank in a store means it is QT'd. Most stores out there use shared sumps, skimmers, etc.
Many times fish get the ich FROM the fish store. That's the case at 2 of the stores around me.
I think people only don't QT until they really have to deal with a nice disease outbreak. Especially if it's in a reef tank where display treatment is not an option.
I agree, once you go through a 6-8 week fallow period you're less likely to want to do it again and probably qt after that.
Personally, I just don't put anything in my tank anymore, so there's no reason to QT. ;)
Yeah, well your tank is beautiful and full. Just rub it in why don't you? :silly:
For one thing, I never known any LFS to have available a QT to quarantine the fish for its buyers.
I have, but it is agreeably rare and they were a very small store that could afford to do it.
In the 3 years I've been in the hobby I have never QT'd a fish yet and never had a disease. Yes I'm probably asking for trouble but.......
I do trust my LFS having helped him out a couple of times and I know how he treats his fish.
On the other hand, as much as I like them, I would never have a regal or powder blue tang as in my eyes they are the most prone to Ich and I don't want to risk it.
Would you mind terribly if I prayed to the fishie gods that your luck continue? I recall Marc from Melvsreef even reporting being shocked this his mandy had ich and well Paisley can NOT get ich.
Oh, and yeah, if you are experienced in this hobby and you trust your LFS that is totally different than not knowing much about it and trusting your LFS. I remember how much your local owner helped you during your move, seems like a great guy.
I have qt fish in the past and have ended loosing them due to qt. Prob since most of the fish where juvi tangs. I have also been bold enought to put fish right into a display tank and had no probs. The only fish I EVER had break out in ich has been my regal. I tried hypo for 6 weeks and it comes back. JUST on the regal. But that was many months ago. The only thing I have added to the tank has been clams and I did not qt those as those came from someones frag tank.
That doesn't really disprove that a proper fallow period will rid the the display of ich. If there were other hosts available and the regal was likely to be the first to show signs he could have been re-infected when he went back in.
schigara
12-18-2007, 6:01 PM
Hey Grins,
Someone on RC just suggested that I should have left my Mandarin in the Display during QT. I know the Mandarins have a hefty slime coat that is supposed to make them impervious to ich but can't the ich still feed off the Mandarin and stay alive even though it doesn't really infect the fish?
He was concerned about it starving even though I put about 30lbs of rock from the sump in the 29g QT and there are pods in the QT and the Mandarin also eats prepared foods.
PS. It was amazing how quickly all the fish started breathing normally again once the SG was dropped in the qt from 1.025 to 1.009 over 2 days. The Midas Blenny was in very bad shape, totally covered in ich and breathing very very reapidly. Once the SG started to drop, breathing went back to normal.
Tell him to ask Marc about his mandy getting ich.
schigara
12-18-2007, 6:24 PM
Yeah, it didn't seem like a very wise suggestion.
Catpicklesdog
12-18-2007, 6:36 PM
Would you mind terribly if I prayed to the fishie gods that your luck continue? I recall Marc from Melvsreef even reporting being shocked this his mandy had ich and well Paisley can NOT get ich.
Oh, and yeah, if you are experienced in this hobby and you trust your LFS that is totally different than not knowing much about it and trusting your LFS. I remember how much your local owner helped you during your move, seems like a great guy.
I don't mind at all Grins!! I'll probably get shouted at but I'm still not convinced about Ich and QT especially as I've never had a problem through not QTing. I don't know if it helps that my LFS has similar water params to my own and he's only 10 mins down the road or what. I never used to acclimate either but do now. Or maybe it is just the fishy gods looking down on me!!
It's one thing I'm going to have to do some major research on. Either way I'm not planning on getting any new fish in the near future!
I'm not going to shout at you. If I do you won't leave me the coco in your will.
Catpicklesdog
12-19-2007, 5:30 AM
If the copper treatment for the Ich doesn't kill him first!!!!! (JK:devil:)
lol, I know you better than that.
Catpicklesdog
12-19-2007, 10:08 AM
lol, I know you better than that.
You do!!! I wouldn't it to you or the coco worm!!!