View Full Version : 1 more cichlid what should it be?
slowmo115
01-03-2008, 4:42 PM
ok im looking for one more cichlid and i dont know what it should be for my 29g i have a jewel and convict so far and i would like one more maybe two if posible and i dont want a breeding pair of anything. any sug. thank you
severum mama
01-03-2008, 5:16 PM
I wouldn't add any more cichlids to your 29. The only cichlids you'd have space for are dwarf cichlids, and they could never hold their own against a jewel and convict. I'd imagine that the jewel and convict appreciate their territories as they are and wouldn't take kindly to competitors. ;)
Have you considered adding dither fish? They will make the cichlids feel more comfortable, possibly help disperse aggression, and provide activity and color for your tank. Tiger barbs come to mind as good tankmates- you can find them in the regular, green, or albino variety and all are the same species (and will therefore school together in a mixed group if you like). Try a group of 6-8 if this appeals to you. Good luck!
slowmo115
01-03-2008, 5:57 PM
that is a good idea i do like tiger barbs and wanted to get some of them. would those do good with the 2 i already have?what else would be good?
elementkid65
01-03-2008, 6:05 PM
you should of got a few juvi jewels and grew them up.
thats what i did but now regreting selling them
jm1212
01-03-2008, 6:16 PM
i wouldnt add anything else. both cichlids are pretty aggressive, and you may already hav eelevated aggression levels as it is.
ibr3ak
01-03-2008, 6:34 PM
Have you considered adding dither fish? They will make the cichlids feel more comfortable, possibly help disperse aggression, and provide activity and color for your tank. Tiger barbs come to mind as good tankmates- you can find them in the regular, green, or albino variety and all are the same species (and will therefore school together in a mixed group if you like). Try a group of 6-8 if this appeals to you. Good luck!
I agree, tiger barbs, small danios or any other small group of fast moving fish would be great as a dither, especially with the current tank mates.
Buscamares
01-11-2008, 12:28 AM
want a nice fish that has a personality? get a parrot cichlid. :) Stay away from the dyed jellybeans. it will be able to hold its own against the jewel and the convict. might have to upgrade tanks in the far future.
ibr3ak
01-11-2008, 12:50 AM
I'd have to disagree, not only do parrots get very aggressive, but because they are man made hybrids they are also very unpredictable as far as their size, health, etc..
Buscamares
01-11-2008, 1:23 AM
a parrot aggressive? Right if ya say so. they get aggro when they are spawning just like anything else. but it will be able to hold its own against the jewel and the convict. 1 male and 1 female yes they will be aggressive but 2 males no spawning = no aggro. and rule #1 more fish less aggression in the tank. with cichlids overcrowding is a good thing just remember to over filter as well.. just stick to the same community's and everything should be ok. whats with people and the hate for parrots. if yer going along that route lets get rid of all the hybrids and all the line bred fish and the peacocks and the numerous color morphs that have appeared in the hobby too after all they are also man made. Do you even own a parrot? or is this just the same old rhetoric that i keep hearing from people. Oh its a hybrid IT SUCKS. I have 2 parrots as the main pieces of my 90 gal and i have no issues with them or any of the other fish that i have with them. Jack Dempseys are more aggressive then the my 2 parrots are.... k i finished ranting.
elementkid65
01-11-2008, 1:30 AM
a parrot aggressive? Right if ya say so. they get aggro when they are spawning just like anything else. but it will be able to hold its own against the jewel and the convict. 1 male and 1 female yes they will be aggressive but 2 males no spawning = no aggro. and rule #1 more fish less aggression in the tank. with cichlids overcrowding is a good thing just remember to over filter as well.. just stick to the same community's and everything should be ok.
no way way too agressive and its a tiny tank they get huge.
overstocking only works in AFRICAN cichlids not sa/ca
overstocking with ca/sa cichlids usually leads to a death match and is a ticking time bomb with such a tiny tank. its only a matter if time.
two male parrots in anything except 75g+ no no no no, in a 29 of keeping any 2 male ca/sa cichlid except dwarfs is a bad idea.
there is like a .0000001 chance it will work
i see you have tiger barbs stick with only that except maybe a pictus cat
Buscamares
01-11-2008, 1:39 AM
no way way too agressive and its a tiny tank they get huge.
yeah they do get huge but not for a while and by that time the mts <multi tank syndrome> should of set in, and i said nothing about putting 2 into that tank only one. it would probley cuddle up to the convict anyways. and a barb or a cat would just be eaten by the jewel hell ive seen them get eaten by a bunch of cobalt blues and yellow labs in a friends tank...
ibr3ak
01-11-2008, 1:55 AM
You ever seen a jewel or a convict get shred by a parrot? Just because it worked in your case, doesn't mean all fish behave the same.
Buscamares
01-11-2008, 2:17 AM
Have you ever owned a parrot yourself ibr3ak?? hmmm and i also know of 3 other people with parrots too, and not a issue with any of them.
gatotsu77
01-11-2008, 2:53 AM
Individual temperament kinda plays a big role here... just because fish A from family X survived and did well in tank Y, does not mean fish B from family X will do well in tank Z. Too many variables to say "mine is fine, yours will be too" in this situation. I've dealt with a lot of parrots, and if there is anything I have learned about them, they really do take on individual personality traits. I've seen some aggressive, some passive, some mutilated, etc. (not sure why they think it looks good, but some asian cultures cut off the caudal fin of blood parrots to change how the fish looks) One other thing I can say for sure is that they do get large.... I myself wouldn't keep one in a 29g tank, especially with other inhabitants, but that's just my personal opinion. Please keep in mind Buscamares, members of the forum can and frequently do share their experience and opinion, but not everything everyone says is "fact." Heck, what I've said above is subjective to my experiences, and does not necessarily reflect what will be true in any given situation. I'm just here to offer whatever experiences and observations I can to others, and absorb those which others share with me.
I wouldn't suggest keeping 7 discus plus other inhabitants to others on this forum, but thus far with my experience, my fish are doing beautifully. I'll be selling 1-2 of my discus this weekend (possibly just 1 for now, and see how the 6 interact from there) and will likely just add some cherry shrimp to complete the tank. Again.... just because I can get away with 7 discus in my tank doesn't mean I'd recommend others try the same. 5-6 seems a more appropriate number to me, depending on other inhabitants. (I know this part of my post is kinda off topic... sorry for going off on a tangent there)
The various different opinions and experiences are one thing which constantly draw me back to this forum... its both mentally stimulating and enjoyable to chat with so many people about so many topics. I myself just can't get enough of it. :)
Folks, can we please keep this thread back on topic instead of questioning each other? You are free to share whatever experiences and opinions you have. And always remember, mileage will vary so your experience may not be the same to the others.
Just a friendly reminder.:)