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martialtheory
01-09-2008, 8:54 PM
I had this crazy idea a few weeks back. I know that when making wine, its basically like co2 generator. I also knew a really cheap way of making wine. Its no $80 bottle of wine but way better than any cheap wine I ever had.

So why not make wine and use the co2 to inject my tanks?

First all the supplies!

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Next make the holes and pull the airline through.

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Then I chulked it up to prevent any air leaks

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Then made the mixture.

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Very simple, first add 1 teaspoon of yeast and hydrate it. It takes about 15 minutes. Then add half a cup of sugar and the 3 containers of concentrated grape juice. Afterwards add 6 cups of water and mix.

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Then I tefloned the bubble counter and connected the system.

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But then the problems. I waited almost 10 hours now and still no co2 bubbles. Most dissapointing

Then a few days later, finally SUCCESS!!

I finally got my co2/wine generator working fully functional.

I turned it into two 2 liter bottles connected with a t connector. And filled it with my getto wine.

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Then connect it to a wooden airstone and it works http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v519/MartialTheory/ERU/IMG_2410.jpg

Then I connected the glass difusor and prayed that it worked.

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AND IT WORKS!! Yes sweet sweet success at last.

But its not all good news. My sister squeezed the bottles and the negative pressure from releasing the bottles caused fish water to get into the bottle. So I have co2 but no cheap wine *tears* I'm going to have to show you wine drinking results in a few months.

LesbianChap
01-09-2008, 9:09 PM
So, just a single fermentation? Most the sites I'm finding say you should ferment the grape-juice twice...Also, how long does the fermentation last, and how's the wine turn out? Personally I don't like dry wines. Have you any other tricks for getting the wine sweet and nice?

Hell, if I can knock out two birds with one stone, and use my aquarium to further my alcoholism, I'm all for it.

martialtheory
01-09-2008, 9:13 PM
hahah thats excatlly what im saying! all this time with all the alcohol that we made and threw out. lol

you do have to ferment twice. But this stage is only the primary fermentation. A second round is needed when the co2 stops and siphon into another sterized jug with a sterilized tube and mouth peice. Then place it somewhere at 60 to 70 degrees for a month

Plecosterone
01-09-2008, 9:15 PM
If your making wine anyway it is great. The worse that can happen is your fish will hate you when stop doing it.

LesbianChap
01-09-2008, 9:16 PM
hahah thats excatlly what im saying! all this time with all the alcohol that we made and threw out. lol

you do have to ferment twice. But this stage is only the primary fermentation. A second round is needed when the co2 stops and siphon into another sterized jug with a sterilized tube and mouth peice. Then place it somewhere at 60 to 70 degrees for a month
Then I'm guessing after the month you strain it (coffee strainer work?) into your "wine bottle" for refridgeration and serving?

martialtheory
01-09-2008, 9:21 PM
no need to strain. After the primary fermentation, the dead yeast will collect on the bottom. So as long as you don't shake the container much, u can collect it without collecting the dead yeast.

And yes, place it in the fridge for a month then serve and enjoy. its not bad. I made it before and its better than any cheap bottle of wine I had before.

LesbianChap
01-09-2008, 9:23 PM
no need to strain. After the primary fermentation, the dead yeast will collect on the bottom. So as long as you don't shake the container much, u can collect it without collecting the dead yeast.

And yes, place it in the fridge for a month then serve and enjoy. its not bad. I made it before and its better than any cheap bottle of wine I had before.

How's the taste? Is it dry or sweet or what?

martialtheory
01-09-2008, 9:31 PM
No its sweet. Very light on the dry part though. But it depends on the temperture and how much sugar you initally added. The less and if the second fermentation has a higher temp, it should produce a more dry wine.

Sploke
01-09-2008, 9:33 PM
The second stage is not really a "second fermentation". When you rack it into a secondary container, you're waiting for the yeast to settle out and the wine to clear. Then you can rack it off the fines and bottle it if you want to. Grape juice is generally made from concord grapes, which don't make the best table wine. Most store-bought juices also contain preservatives which tend to inhibit the ferment. Chilling the wash will help the wine to clear. If you want to talk real winemaking feel free to PM me, I've been homebrewing for a few years now. If its just for CO2 production, you're better off with a straight sugar wash, its cheaper.

LesbianChap
01-09-2008, 9:33 PM
More sugar, cooler when you take it off the tank...got it! :)

martialtheory
01-09-2008, 9:36 PM
Nah man I'm just running a really cheap set up for co2 and drinkable wine that still has a kick.

BTW, I noticed ur a part time ihop cheff, please tell me how they make omlets so soft and puffy. I suck at cooking.

Bk718
01-09-2008, 10:15 PM
Nah man I'm just running a really cheap set up for co2 and drinkable wine that still has a kick.

BTW, I noticed ur a part time ihop cheff, please tell me how they make omlets so soft and puffy. I suck at cooking.

lol
enjoying your bad omelet with the weird wine??

Its worth a try but if the wine is ehhh then its just a waste of $$ since the concentrated grape juice dont come cheap.. Try the jello co2 then you can enjoy a different drink with a nice kick to it lol

Mgamer20o0
01-09-2008, 10:46 PM
nice idea.

martialtheory
01-10-2008, 11:19 AM
lol
enjoying your bad omelet with the weird wine??

Its worth a try but if the wine is ehhh then its just a waste of $$ since the concentrated grape juice dont come cheap.. Try the jello co2 then you can enjoy a different drink with a nice kick to it lol


hey yeah! its way better than ur yeasty jello shots. besides ur mom didn't mind last night when i was with her. OH SNAP!!! lol

thanks mgamer2000.

are u suppose to turn of DIY co2 at night? I always do but not sure if thats nessacary

Bk718
01-10-2008, 11:53 AM
hey yeah! its way better than ur yeasty jello shots. besides ur mom didn't mind last night when i was with her. OH SNAP!!! lol

thanks mgamer2000.

are u suppose to turn of DIY co2 at night? I always do but not sure if thats nessacary

yup your mom didnt mind either
http://www.physicschick.com/pole/20060121/15_jello_shots.jpg


but on the side note..

how do you plan to "turn off" a diy setup? i mean you have 2 options and both are pretty useless
1- unscrew the cap off the bottle so the tasty co2 enters your room
or
2- close the air regulator and the next morning when you turn it back on you get an explosion of co2 bubbles in your tank..

both just waste co2
Are you running an air pump? what you can do at night is when you turn off the lights crank up the air pump on full that way you have plenty of surface agitation.

martialtheory
01-10-2008, 2:43 PM
cool! i didn't know my mom is white!!


even if i waste co2, i rather my fish not die so waste co2 or waste fish?

Bk718
01-10-2008, 2:58 PM
cool! i didn't know my mom is white!!


even if i waste co2, i rather my fish not die so waste co2 or waste fish?

I have been running 2 bottles on my 10g and the fish have been fine, you will definitely see ph change but mine doesnt affect the fish. Monitor your ph once during the day and another time when you just wake up and about to turn the lights on, having the co2 run over night with an air pump. If you see a huge ph jump then "turning off" the co2 would be needed.

mphunk
01-12-2008, 11:19 AM
bk828..I wet myself. That was the best of 2008 so far.