Yellow Tang, Is this ICH? you tell me

[chucke]

So woke up this morning and my yellow tang has a uniformity of LITTLE. Spots all over him. Sounds like Ich but just want to make sure. Since i am at work i cant treat him Right this minute.

Also I added a Coral buety to my tank and i think the bully of a tang Hooked his Face cause now he has a little cut on his nose.... Poor guy. Its a gang initiation

[chucke]

So Anyone Even Care? about my Tang?? please answer

[mandy21]

wow, have some patience. you're at work right now so you can't do anything anyways.

it could be ich, it might not be. Can't tell without pics and not all little dots are ich. my suggestion would be to remove from main tank into QT, acclimate to hyposalinity levels and leave the main tank fish free for 6-8 weeks. I'll become the preacher of QT after losing all of my fish due to not QT one fish out of the 6 that were in the tank.

[mandy21]

http://home2.pacific.net.ph/~sweetyummy42/disease.html

http://home2.pacific.net.ph/~sweetyummy42/ich.html

might help you out.

[chucke]

I am I just wanted it Bumped up again. Since im at work and not really doing anthing i check this oard all the time...

[chucke]

After Reading that and looking at that blue tang I think i Have Ich.... !@#~@#$!@#$@ thats all i can say. i will now put my 10gal Fresh water on hold and make it a QT to treat

[mandy21]

Will all your fish fit into a 10 gallon for 6-8 weeks? You said you had a tang and cba, but didn't know if you had more. I'm pretty sure the aggression (if there is any as you said might be happening) would be multiplied in such small quarters with those 2.

[chucke]

Well, Mandi I think i will only treat the tang. Too many Fish in one area.

[mandy21]

the tang will just get it back considering the ich is IN the tank. To get rid of the ich in the tank, the tank needs to be fish free for the life cycle of the ich parasite. Read the link. It's your choice, but it's going to be a constant battle for ich if other fish don't die in the meantime.

[Reefscape]

I believe i am right in saying that both your yellow AND blue tangs have Ich Chucke??

If that is the case, you do need to take measures and quarantine ALL fish in the tank, as the two fish that have this are potentially depositing ich cysts in the display tank which will stay there and re-infect the fish when you return them back to the tank..

Niko

[noskimmer]

Niko, I didn't really know what ich was, but occasionally newly introduced fish will develop the white spots as described in Mandy21's links and do the glancing at rocks thing and increase gill activity but it has always cleared its self. Could it be that the ich is present, like if your a little stressed or run down you seem to catch every cold going around? I under stand the cycle thing with the white spot, I just don't understand why no other fish in the tank doesn't contract it, and the one that does gets better with no intervention from myself.

[kcress]

I had the same results as noskimmer. A fish gets a white spot here or there then scratches then seems to get over it. But that is a gamble.

[chucke]

Well im Treating all Fish In a QT I have a yellow tang, Coral beuaty, two clowns a yellow watchman goby, and two damsels, The Problem is my QT tank is only 29gal, and not totaly cycled. This really sucks... I think i will leave the Two damsels in the main display and the goby. the clowns and tang and CP will go in the QT Ill keep you updated this sucks!

[mandy21]

check levels often and have water mixed up to do water changes. get another 10g QT for the damsels and goby to be sure you're rid of it.

[chucke]

I Tried Catching them last night but couldnt.. Should I take all my Rock out?!!!

[Grins]

You might need to yes.

[chucke]

Well i will tonight. I also have Little White Specs All over the Glass,as I remember they are snail eggs right? they are hard with a Little Black dot in the middle

[Grins]

There are so many things that could be described as a little white spec that I can't say they are snail eggs.

[chucke]

Well Ich Does Not attach Itsself to Glass does it? My tank was fine till this started.. i might as well Sell everything. haha

[1wizz]

Clown eggs??? Hope all works out well in the end mate.

[chucke]

I haha I wish it was Clown eggs. I cant catch my fish i took almost all the rock out.. If you hade a 48x24x24 you would understand the tank is so wide i cant catch him....

[mandy21]

I have a massive net. I'd use 2 nets, keep the big one stationary and use a smaller one and slowly corral it into the larger net, then scoop the net quickly up so the opening is facing up.

[davina]

My tank has been infected over and over again with ich from the shop I have bought my fish at for years. Not sure why...when I buy them, they don't appear to have it and are very healthy, and my tank certainly doesn't have it, yet in 2-3 days after bringing them home, they get it! My guy says my water levels are fine. This tank has cycle for over 1.5 years, so its not new tank syndrome. And I had damsels in there for over 4 months with no problems.

I once had a yellow tang that got it, but it was hard to tell myself that it had it because the fish is yellow. When i took it back into the store for acting strange, they told me it had it....NO SURPRISE.

Right now I only have my dog face puffer...and honestly...it's a long story how I only ended up with 1 fish, but that's all I want right now. Ich was brought in by a new blue tang I bought a couple of weeks ago that the store took back and treated, but after i brought it back home, my damsels killed it. Ich is horrible, and I have lost $100's over it.

So here is what I'm doing so far based on the research I've done.

#1) Fresh water dips DAILY. I do it for about 7-8 minutes because the puffer can handle going that long. Make sure the temp and ph are the same as your tank. My ph is 8.3 with the buffer, so put the buffer in the freshwater. And make sure you dechlorinate the water. They say this kills the parasite on the fish directly. But you still have to treat the tank or as other people have said, you can remove all the fish after dipping them and leave the show tank empty until the ich runs its cycle. Quick Note: they say if the fish shows signs of stress during the dip...put it back in the s.w. tank immediately.

#2) Partial water changes and using Rid Ich DAILY. I have to use half the dose unfortunately because puffers are scaleless fish and it burns their skin. I have a 60 gal tank and I do 6 or sometimes 9 gal water changes. It gets costly because of the salt! But what choice do I have for not having an extra tank?

#3) I'm soaking the puffer's food which is thoroughly rinsed, frozen jumbo shrimp (from my grocery store) in finally chopped garlic for 20 minutes. I have read that garlic has an anti-parasite affect and a family member who used to breed dogs also told me that he fed garlic to the puppies to de-worm them.

I honestly can't tell you that any one remedy works, but I am determined to do all I can to save my little guy and I am doing it ALL! I do not want this **** disease to get the best of me again.

I can tell you that he has survived since the 3rd of July (12 days now) and other than hiding a lot, he is still eating and seems to be making it through.

Honestly, I feel myself that the fresh water dips are key to keeping the fish alive. The store I buy from does that, and I went to another store for their opinion and they do it as well. Both stores do it in combination with the ich medication. Research your fish types and find out what meds they can tolerate. Puffers can not have copper based meds and they require half the dose as regular fish.

I wish you the best of luck. I know how you feel, and it sucks.

Ich stinks :silly:

[mcsassy]

What do you feed them? Soak their food in garlic and try some reef safe medication to fight it...slowly raise the temperature in the tank as well because that speeds up the ich life cycle and increases metabolism/immunity in MY personal experience with ich. I think taking them out of the tank will stress them even more in the process of trying to catch them and make it worse. The above is what I did for my blue tang and I have 3 different tangs, one being a yellow all with no ich. So ya...there are other possibilities that may work that are not as drastic as not having your fish in your tank for a couple months...that would be lame!