View Full Version : Please help me identify these shrimp :)
Gomer
08-01-2003, 12:07 PM
I recently picked up 6 of these little guys at the LFS. They seem to like eating through little bits of algae and even the occassional loose bit of ricca. They are only ~1" long and are sill juviniles TTBOMK.
Can anyone identify these? Sorry for the image quality. And YES, some are redish and some are brownish .
http://www.dslextreme.com/users/louieg/images/whatshrimp.jpg
CHINABOY1021
08-01-2003, 12:10 PM
check out http://www.thekrib.com/Fish/Shrimp/
for picture IDs. im sure those shrimp are different species
Dangerdoll
08-01-2003, 12:18 PM
looks to me like a "Singapore wood shrimp", or "Atyopsis moluccensis ".
Gomer
08-01-2003, 12:29 PM
Thanks
If you look at the markings (atleast what Ihave seen), they are all the same, except for the color. So I don't think they are different species.
So far, I have heard 3 opinions, and they are all different! :(
So far: crystal red, cherry red, Singapore wood shrimp
Dangerdoll
08-01-2003, 1:57 PM
nah, I don't think they look like the crystal or cherry red. I'm sticking with the Wood Shrimp, which, not to confuse you any further, but is also called the Bamboo Shrimp.
They are definitely not wood shrimp, which are filter feeders and have fans rather than claws.
They are also not Cherry Reds, because the color is wrong, although the markings are similar. The Cherry Red shrimp is a subspecies, or variety of the Chinese subspecies, with the strong color.
They are the same as the shrimp I purchased as Southern Marsh Shrimp Neocaridina denticulata. They are from southern Japan and China (which is listed as being a different subspecies). Supposedly the second best algae eater in Amano's tests. Now moved down a bit with the appearence in the trade of Cherry Reds, which top Amanos in variety of algae eaten.
The Crystal Red is a hybrid - or maybe selection - and is IME rather weak and a poor algae eater.
bghost1961
08-02-2003, 9:11 AM
Gomer,
Your pictures are very good if not excellent! Everyone who has tried to take picture of fish in their tank would appreciate how hard it is to get such quality.
Care to share your equipment(s) and technique?
Thanks,
well...now, I have many different opinions on these shrimp *L* not sure if anyone has yet to agree :D
All of those pics were taken with a stock Olympus 5050. I hae played with every mode to get pics. Anything from changing the aperture to manual macro.
I do shoot w/o a tripod and only use my tank lighting when possible. until I get an external flash setup, I like to avoid flash whenever possible.
...and I have to take TONS of pics...and when I am lucky, about 1 in 5-10 will turn out 1/2way decent. 1 in 20 will turn out good. Fish just move around too much, and when you are running low light w/no flash...well..you get lots of blurry garbage :)
I have probably shot around 300 pics of fish and my tank.
Here are some of the better ones of just the inhabitants that I have uploaded to the server (note...some are only better ones because they were rare shots of hard to shoot fish) Most are cropped and shrunk 2=4x for easy uploading:
http://members.dslextreme.com/users/louieg/Ickle_Me1.jpg
http://members.dslextreme.com/users/louieg/Ickle_Me4.jpg
http://members.dslextreme.com/users/louieg/Milford1.jpg
http://members.dslextreme.com/users/louieg/Pancho1.jpg
http://members.dslextreme.com/users/louieg/Snail1.jpg
http://members.dslextreme.com/users/louieg/images/whatshrimp.jpg
http://members.dslextreme.com/users/louieg/073003/3some.jpg
http://members.dslextreme.com/users/louieg/073003/heymo.jpg
http://members.dslextreme.com/users/louieg/073003/ichleme1.jpg
http://members.dslextreme.com/users/louieg/073003/ichleme2.jpg
http://members.dslextreme.com/users/louieg/073003/kissme.jpg
http://members.dslextreme.com/users/louieg/073003/milford.jpg
http://members.dslextreme.com/users/louieg/073003/moeandjoe.jpg
http://members.dslextreme.com/users/louieg/073003/shrimp1.jpg
bghost1961
08-02-2003, 10:50 PM
Thank you for sharing those beautiful pics!
Looks like you've got one of the best equipment already: IMHO, only newer Digital SLRs are better than the Olympus 5050. I own an 3040, though two generation older, but I 've been very happy with it and getting very good results with its fast lens and flexible controls..
However, when it comes to photgraphing fish, it's another ball game: onboard flash is useless and even with the brightest aquarium, you still need more light and must use slow shutter speed to compensate for it, and this really make every frame appear blurry even for fishes that just move at "normal" pace... Autofocus is also unreliable with subject moving so fast across the frame, and at such close range...
I also have shot hundreds of pictures of the tank and probably get rid of 95-98% of them. I've seen professional photographers that get so frustrate when trying to shoot client's fish tank...I just feel so fortunate that we're in digital age that it costs nothing to keep trying and that we can see our mistake almost instantly!
Thanks again for sharing your pic and your...pain, but it's also so fun doing this, don't you agree? :) :)
andruboz
08-02-2003, 11:38 PM
those are some great pics.. it seems especially rare that they are of community/common fish.. most photographers are into the cichlids..
Gomer
08-03-2003, 12:21 PM
Thanks :)
I actually have my eye on the Cannon EOS 10D
If all goes well, I'll have that in a couple months.
Cichlids get too much attention:) I like my community fish ;)
SnakeIce
08-03-2003, 12:22 PM
wow you actually got the danios to look as if they are sitting still and two of them. how many thousands of tries did it take to get them :D
I wish I had a digital camera
nvision
08-03-2003, 2:17 PM
gomer: the Cannon EOS series are magnificent cameras. i was also looking at the EOS 10D just last week, and almost pulled out my plastic to get one. :eek:
the only thing that held me back is its physical size; a bit too large for travelling purposes for me. but wow, what great photos it can take! have fun with this awesome toy when your time comes. http://aquariacentral.com/forums/images/icons/icon14.gif
bghost1961
08-03-2003, 9:54 PM
no doubt that the 10D is now king in terms of value for quality...
However, the only thing that bothers me about the 10D is some reports of its "soft focusing" (of course, my cash factor as well :( ). I would like to wait for a while to see this issue completely cleared out, either by Canon or other competitors.
Doublette90
08-05-2003, 12:00 AM
Those are awesome pictures! Thanks for sharing! If only I could take shots like that!
cpr4cpu
08-05-2003, 5:57 PM
sexy! (very nice pictures, and camera info)
I am toying with a 10D that the company bought, and I still can't get that quality of photograph of plants, much less swimming things.
Oh, I also think you have a bamboo shrimp that has cross bred with something else (maybe a grass shrimp)
nvision
08-05-2003, 8:34 PM
wow you're lucky. you can stop by anytime; i'll show you the physics behind the EOS. :D