Mafia #27: Survivor ACville Island

[Cory Lover]

Welcome everyone to the Mafia #27: Survivour ACville Island!

Game Mechanics

1) Each game day (which is usually 48 hours), everyone in the town has to vote to lynch someone. You vote by saying (in bold)… I vote to banish so and so from the Island. New rule: You may NOT retract your vote after it is placed.

2) You must vote each day, but you cannot vote for no one, or yourself. If you fail to vote, you will die an untimely, and most likely embarrassing death.

2) Whoever has the most votes gets eliminated. If you have two and everyone else has one vote… you get lynched.

3) If multiple people have the same number of votes, I will use a random number generator to decide which of those gets lynched.

4) Everything stays in the game, no PMing people and setting up deals or alliances, or discussing issues in this game on other sites. The sole exception to this is the authorization by me for special role players to do so.

5) Please do not take anything personal said in this game. It is a game. If you are having alot of trouble with another player, PM me please.

6) You can say whatever you want in the game (but please do not be nasty to other players).

7) Do not edit your posts!

8) Please do not post after you are dead (in the game).


Roles:

-Innocent: Your job is to try to vote off all the members from the two alliances. You are the good guy.

-Lazuli Alliance: Your #1 priority is to vote off members of the Emerald Alliance, and then innocents.

-Emerald Alliance: Your #1 priority is to vote off members of the Lazuli Alliance, then innocents.

Nightly Happenings:

-The lynch
-The coconut hit

Each alliance will have one coconut hit which they can use after the first night. They will choose who they want to hit, PM that to me in advance of night time, and whoever they use the coconut hit on has a 50% chance of being killed.

New twist: Each innocent has ONE investigation to use.


How to win the game:

If all the Emerald and Lazuli alliance members get killed, the innocents win.

If either the Emerald or Lazuli alliance knock out the opposing alliance, and all the innocents, they win.



The ratio of Emeralds to Lazulis to innocents will be about equal.


Roles will assigned randomly and/or hand picked.


Hope that covers it all, I'm new to modding games. Please forgive me if I missed anything.



GAME ON!

[Cory Lover]

Players:

jl
JM
HN
Gracecat
jpappy
rb
Fungi
LadyG
Ice

[Fungi]

Here goes!

[Cory Lover]

Nightfall will be Monday at 8CT time!

[johnlarson66]

The ratio of Emeralds to Lazulis to innocents will be about equal.


Roles will assigned randomly and/or hand picked.


I am going to go out on a limb and say that each group has 3 players each.

I also appreciate the fact that you have posted that roles could be hand picked. I think that is something to keep in mind.

[johnlarson66]

The no vote changing is going to be a challenage.

[Lady G]

Hmmm....well Hi all!! Here we go!!!!!

[Fungi]

The no vote changing is going to be a challenage.

You can say that again, I have a propensity to change my mind often

[jpappy789]

Hmmm...no vote changes eh? This is actually going to require some restraining on my part...no quick votes.

Can I get some clarification Cory...will this day FOR SURE be 48 hours?

[jpappy789]

wow where is everyone? this island is scary at night....

[Lady G]

I'm here for ya...LOL!!!!!!!

[jpappy789]

woo...hooo....;)

[jpappy789]

I am bored so I decided to make a list of who is on what side according to a random number generator. 1= innocent; 2= lazuli; 3= emerald

jl-2
JM-3
HN-2
Gracecat-3
jpappy-1
rb-1
Fungi-2
LadyG-1
Ice-3

This has nothing to do with what I think as many havent even posted yet. Just want to see how close this is at the end of the game :D


Again...just for fun

[Rbishop]

Wow. Your all evil.

[Cory Lover]

Hmmm...no vote changes eh? This is actually going to require some restraining on my part...no quick votes.

Can I get some clarification Cory...will this day FOR SURE be 48 hours?

Yes, it will be tomorrow at 8CT. After that, I may cut it down to 24 hour days.

Matt

[johnlarson66]

Wow. Your all evil.

Well six of the nine ARE evil. So almost everyone IS evil. There are more evil than innocents this game!

The good news is that the innocents get one investigation each.

I propose this question to my fellow island mates: If you were granted an investigation, who would you investigate and why?

I would investigate Fungi because I they have not played in awhile and were early to post.

I hope everyone will particapate in this.

[Rbishop]

I would investigate Ice, then lie to you about him.....

[johnlarson66]

I would investigate Ice, then lie to you about him.....

That would make sense if you both were on the same evil team, now (this is a stretch) pretend you are innocent and not on the same evil team as Ice.

[Gracecat]

Wooohoooooooo ;)

[Rbishop]

That would make sense if you both were on the same evil team, now (this is a stretch) pretend you are innocent and not on the same evil team as Ice.


I would still lie to you since you are evil...

[jpappy789]

Definitely rb. He has the ability to stay low but still be active enough so I can NEVER figure him out.

[Lady G]

I would investigate Ice, HN or JL since I have a very hard time figuring them out.

[johnlarson66]

I would still lie to you since you are evil...

Would you still lie to the whole town?

Maybe you do not understand the question. I am not asking what you would do with the information from the investigation, that is a whole other topic.

Here is the question:

If you were granted an investigation, who would you investigate and why?

So why would you investigate Ice?

[johnlarson66]

I would investigate Ice, HN or JL since I have a very hard time figuring them out.

I think the innocents only get to investigate one person each and the innocents can't talk to each other.

So I am going to assume that you would investigate Ice.

I agree that HN and myself would be good choices also, as would the other 2/3's of the town.

[Lady G]

"The ratio of Emeralds to Lazulis to innocents will be about equal"

Did anyone else catch this?? They will be ABOUT equal?? This is going to be a hard one for us I think, we have to take out BOTH teams to win...but at least they have to take each other out too. I am going to assume it is 3 on each team...



I think the innocents only get to investigate one person each and the innocents can't talk to each other.

So I am going to assume that you would investigate Ice.

I agree that HN and myself would be good choices also, as would the other 2/3's of the town.

I realize there is only one investigation. As far as which one would be my choice...really it would depend on what happens before investigating.

[jpappy789]

"The ratio of Emeralds to Lazulis to innocents will be about equal"

Did anyone else catch this?? They will be ABOUT equal?? This is going to be a hard one for us I think, we have to take out BOTH teams to win...but at least they have to take each other out too. I am going to assume it is 3 on each team...




I realize there is only one investigation. As far as which one would be my choice...really it would depend on what happens before investigating.

I am thinking that they are equal with 3 teams of 3. I bet cory had the rules written out beforehand and didnt know if others would join late and then teams wouldnt be equal. I think it is safe to assume that it is 3v3v3. There really is no harm in that I dont think...

[Rbishop]

Would you still lie to the whole town?

Maybe you do not understand the question. I am not asking what you would do with the information from the investigation, that is a whole other topic.

Here is the question:


So why would you investigate Ice?


I would investigate Ice.....since you are a newbie....we have a history...

[jpappy789]

Well at this point the only thing I can do is go over the rules...


Welcome everyone to the Mafia #27: Survivour ACville Island!

Game Mechanics

1) Each game day (which is usually 48 hours), everyone in the town has to vote to lynch someone. You vote by saying (in bold)… I vote to banish so and so from the Island. New rule: You may NOT retract your vote after it is placed. Going to be difficult and hard to pick out those who switch votes because they cant...only thing to go on with voting then is possibly late voting but without being able to switch I think it is in the best interest for people not to rush into votes anyways...looking at the voting patterns wont really help much this game...

2) You must vote each day, but you cannot vote for no one, or yourself. If you fail to vote, you will die an untimely, and most likely embarrassing death.

2) Whoever has the most votes gets eliminated. If you have two and everyone else has one vote… you get lynched.

3) If multiple people have the same number of votes, I will use a random number generator to decide which of those gets lynched.

4) Everything stays in the game, no PMing people and setting up deals or alliances, or discussing issues in this game on other sites. The sole exception to this is the authorization by me for special role players to do so.

5) Please do not take anything personal said in this game. It is a game. If you are having alot of trouble with another player, PM me please.

6) You can say whatever you want in the game (but please do not be nasty to other players).

7) Do not edit your posts!

8) Please do not post after you are dead (in the game).


Roles:

-Innocent: Your job is to try to vote off all the members from the two alliances. You are the good guy.

-Lazuli Alliance: Your #1 priority is to vote off members of the Emerald Alliance, and then innocents.

-Emerald Alliance: Your #1 priority is to vote off members of the Lazuli Alliance, then innocents.

Nightly Happenings:

-The lynch
-The coconut hit

Each alliance will have one coconut hit which they can use after the first night. They will choose who they want to hit, PM that to me in advance of night time, and whoever they use the coconut hit on has a 50% chance of being killed.So if I understand this correctly each team with the coconut has one 50% chance.

New twist: Each innocent has ONE investigation to use.This is good but at the same time so many people already know some peoples roles (the ones on their team) that the investigation is only good for the innocents who have them as it will be almost impossible to convince others of their results.


How to win the game:

If all the Emerald and Lazuli alliance members get killed, the innocents win.

If either the Emerald or Lazuli alliance knock out the opposing alliance, and all the innocents, they win.



The ratio of Emeralds to Lazulis to innocents will be about equal.As I said earlier I think it is exactly equal this game.


Roles will assigned randomly and/or hand picked.I think it would be hard to hand pick roles except for who is with who as 2/3 of the town isnt innocent


Hope that covers it all, I'm new to modding games. Please forgive me if I missed anything.



GAME ON!

[jpappy789]

I would investigate Ice.....since you are a newbie....we have a history...
Did you just cal John a newbie???:confused::eek:

[Lady G]

I would investigate Ice.....since you are a newbie....we have a history...

??? Who is a newbie??? RB, you are sounding like MG with these confusing posts. LOL!!!

[Hooked Newbie]

Hey all! Quick catchup and post before I go next door to watch the race.

To JL- I'll probably investigate you or Rb, maybe Ice. No point in investigating JM or LG, because I know they're always evil.

This is going to be tough with 2/3 against the islanders. Hopefully the alliances worry more about one another.

[Rbishop]

I think there is more than ONE investigation, Lady...

[Rbishop]

Did you just cal John a newbie???:confused::eek:


??? Who is a newbie??? RB, you are sounding like MG with these confusing posts. LOL!!!

he is acting like one...

[jpappy789]

I think there is more than ONE investigation, Lady...
what are you talking about!? The rules say each innocent has ONE investigation...and she asked who you were calling a newbie as everyone here has played before:confused::confused::confused:

[jpappy789]

he is acting like one...

o...k......:confused:

[Lady G]

As far as voting goes, I have to say mine will most likely be "late" day votes...without being able to switch votes, it will make it difficult...no voteing for reactions or thoughts, so I think most (unless something BIG happens) votes will be later.

[jpappy789]

well only people not to post yet are jmax and ice...but still a lot of time left in the day

[Lady G]

Hey all! Quick catchup and post before I go next door to watch the race.

To JL- I'll probably investigate you or Rb, maybe Ice. No point in investigating JM or LG, because I know they're always evil.

This is going to be tough with 2/3 against the islanders. Hopefully the alliances worry more about one another.
:silly:


I think there is more than ONE investigation, Lady...

Yes, there are more then ONE investigation...but only ONE per person:drool:

[Rbishop]

"The ratio of Emeralds to Lazulis to innocents will be about equal"

Did anyone else catch this?? They will be ABOUT equal?? This is going to be a hard one for us I think, we have to take out BOTH teams to win...but at least they have to take each other out too. I am going to assume it is 3 on each team...




I realize there is only one investigation. As far as which one would be my choice...really it would depend on what happens before investigating.

But you didn't state that, Lady G...

[jpappy789]

And the nitpicking begins...

[Rbishop]

And the nitpicking begins...

ty

[Cory Lover]

I can see the problem now with not being able to switch votes. I had the rule because in survivor you can only vote once, you can't change your vote, and the voting always happens right at the end, and thats what would probably happen here too.

Changed rule: You can change your vote, only once though!. Sorry if this causes any problems. I should have seen the problem with not being able to switch votes before I started the game.

Just to be clear, each innocent has ONE investigation through out the whole game.

Matt

[jpappy789]

Well I like that better now. Phew!

[Lady G]

I can see the problem now with not being able to switch votes. I had the rule because in survivor you can only vote once, you can't change your vote, and the voting always happens right at the end, and thats what would probably happen here too.

Changed rule: You can change your vote, only once though!. Sorry if this causes any problems. I should have seen the problem with not being able to switch votes before I started the game.

Just to be clear, each innocent has ONE investigation through out the whole game.

Matt

THANK YOU!!! I can see the only being able to switch once....but man not at all, Thank you!

And to Bob....WHATEVER! :silly:

[Lady G]

Hmmm, very slow day in ACville. I would have to say from what has been posted thus far....RB you have my highest concerns, of coarse that is not saying much at this point...since not much has been said. Our chance of hitting a "baddie" is going to be much greater though...so that is helpful at least.

[Rbishop]

Especially ones that can not get the rules correct....

[Gracecat]

Who would I vote to investigate and why...

Since it's day one and indeed very quiet in ACville, and for reasons not at all based on anything I have heard... It's race day, and I'm in a silly mood.

I would vote to investigate Ice. Because it's his birthday, we're cheering for two different drivers, in two different cars, lazuli is a shade of blue, and ice is cold, cold is blue....

So I'm going to say if things were hand picked, Ice is on the Lazuli team. :)


Besides, Ice isn't going to feel too good in the morning to debate... hehe.

[Gracecat]

Ya know.... a neat mafia game would be based on fish names and dispositions :)

Just sayin'.

Because, it's bored. and quiet... and I've spent two days playing Endless Ocean on Wii.

[johnlarson66]

Who would I vote to investigate and why...

Since it's day one and indeed very quiet in ACville, and for reasons not at all based on anything I have heard... It's race day, and I'm in a silly mood.

I would vote to investigate Ice. Because it's his birthday, we're cheering for two different drivers, in two different cars, lazuli is a shade of blue, and ice is cold, cold is blue....

So I'm going to say if things were hand picked, Ice is on the Lazuli team. :)


Besides, Ice isn't going to feel too good in the morning to debate... hehe.

I just looked up "lazuli", I had no idea it was a blue stone. I just thought it was a strange survior name.

Besides a who and a why, we get an answer from Gracecat.

I think that the possiblity of some of the roles being hand picked will make this game interesting, but looking at the list of nine players, I am unsure how Cory Lover would tweak it. I am not sure if it would be more interesting for the mod to have Ice as an innocent of as a member of one of the mafia teams.

I also must have missed what cars you are cheering for, but I did watch the race (my first time from start to finish). Maybe you and Ice talked about the race in an instant message or something.

[IceH2O]

Whats up..

Been totally worthless since about 11 AM. Getting to old to drink on an empty stomach. But the Crown was to tempting to wait for food and after a few drinks we forgot about food anyway.

Still buzzing pretty good but didn't really see anything worth commenting on.

I have no idea on who I'd investigate at this time but since they can be used at any time I see no reason to use one today. I do know I won't investigate myself.

To many good players to just sit and pick who I'd look at until something peaks my interest.

JL, I think Grace was talking about my post in the birthday thread.

[johnlarson66]

I can see the problem now with not being able to switch votes. I had the rule because in survivor you can only vote once, you can't change your vote, and the voting always happens right at the end, and thats what would probably happen here too.

Changed rule: You can change your vote, only once though!. Sorry if this causes any problems. I should have seen the problem with not being able to switch votes before I started the game.

Just to be clear, each innocent has ONE investigation through out the whole game.

Matt

Is the changed rule, once a day cycle or once for the whole game?

[Cory Lover]

Is the changed rule, once a day cycle or once for the whole game?

Once a day cycle.

[Fungi]

Ya know.... a neat mafia game would be based on fish names and dispositions :)

Just sayin'.

Because, it's bored. and quiet... and I've spent two days playing Endless Ocean on Wii.

Is it good? I was looking at getting that


Is the changed rule, once a day cycle or once for the whole game?

I'm gunna take it as once per day cycle, I'd hope

As for investigation, I wouldn't investigate at this stage of the game I don't think, not until something arouses my suspicion

[Gracecat]

I love it Fungi. I like the first person shooter games and the RPG games from time to time, but this one was relaxing. You couldn't die, you're guided through it like an in-game walkthrough and hints strategy guide. There wasn't any drama or worry and you cannot fail or flunk out. Very few parts where you're stumped, mostly it's a hide and seek adventure. Just an all over "fun" game

[johnlarson66]

As for investigation, I wouldn't investigate at this stage of the game I don't think, not until something arouses my suspicion

You not wanting to investigate someone at this stage of the game, arouses my suspicion.

My guess is that you do not have an investigation, hence the line "I don't think". Anyone that does not have an investigation is evil.

Fungi, you are not an innocent.

I vote to banish Fungi from the Island.

I suggest that your teamates distance themselves and let you go.

[Hooked Newbie]

I just looked up "lazuli", I had no idea it was a blue stone. I just thought it was a strange survior name.

Besides a who and a why, we get an answer from Gracecat.

I think that the possiblity of some of the roles being hand picked will make this game interesting, but looking at the list of nine players, I am unsure how Cory Lover would tweak it. I am not sure if it would be more interesting for the mod to have Ice as an innocent of as a member of one of the mafia teams.

I also must have missed what cars you are cheering for, but I did watch the race (my first time from start to finish). Maybe you and Ice talked about the race in an instant message or something.

Very interesting obs on Grace... Not sure what to make of it, but she definitely seems to know all about lazuli. I totally missed that when I read her post.

What'd you think of the race? (I've been a die-hard fan for years and used to be very involved).

[Gracecat]

I also must have missed what cars you are cheering for, but I did watch the race (my first time from start to finish). Maybe you and Ice talked about the race in an instant message or something.


It was JL. I was boo'ing Tony Stewart in Ice's birthday thread ;)

[Gracecat]

Don't read too much into it guys.... It's all girlie.

I make my own jewelry or buy handmade pieces. www.firemountaingems.com (http://www.firemountaingems.com) and www.wyrdingstudios.com (http://www.wyrdingstudios.com) are two of my favorite places. I recognize Lazuli because it's my second hobby. ;)

[johnlarson66]

It was JL. I was boo'ing Tony Stewart in Ice's birthday thread ;)

I glanced at the thread. I also watched the race. I do not have a favorite, but enjoyed watching the race.

So I guess you and Ice were not talking in an instant message about the race.

[Gracecat]

You not wanting to investigate someone at this stage of the game, arouses my suspicion.

My guess is that you do not have an investigation, hence the line "I don't think". Anyone that does not have an investigation is evil.

Fungi, you are not an innocent.

I vote to banish Fungi from the Island.

I suggest that your teamates distance themselves and let you go.

I have to say, Ice has refused to investigate anyone as well. It makes me wonder if they're not discussing this in PM or offsite. I was being flippant and silly when I remarked about Ice being possible Mafia but now I'm not so sure.

In addition to my silly musings, now I have a real reason to investigate Ice. Is it possible that already this team are splitting up and not helping one another?

[Gracecat]

Team is splitting up... Is.


Bah for bad grammar.

[Hooked Newbie]

You not wanting to investigate someone at this stage of the game, arouses my suspicion.

My guess is that you do not have an investigation, hence the line "I don't think". Anyone that does not have an investigation is evil.

Fungi, you are not an innocent.

I vote to banish Fungi from the Island.

I suggest that your teamates distance themselves and let you go.

After reading through everything again, I'm a bit concerned about you being so vocal and taking the lead, even placing the first vote. The vote may be good, but it just seems strange to me somehow. As far as the investigations go, it's very critical info, but only to 3. I think your floating of the question may be very suspect. I'm not going to place a vote yet, I hope to be on tomorrow for a bit, but if I had to pick a guilty party at this point it'd be you or Grace.

[Gracecat]

Oh good lord, why on earth for?!? LOL, I just knew what a lapis lazuli was. And since it was blue, it was Ice's birthday and Ice was the first person to point me out, I was being silly.

[jpappy789]

I have to say, Ice has refused to investigate anyone as well. It makes me wonder if they're not discussing this in PM or offsite. I was being flippant and silly when I remarked about Ice being possible Mafia but now I'm not so sure.

In addition to my silly musings, now I have a real reason to investigate Ice. Is it possible that already this team are splitting up and not helping one another?

Here Grace brings up a great point and points out that Ice too had not mentioned who he would investigate. I surely thought that she would then question why JL only went at Fungi...but instead she lumps Ice and Fungi together as scum because they "refused" to investigate? And I wouldnt say that they refused to investigate anyone seeing as only 3 people can do that anyways. They just didnt say who they would if they could...

And I do not understand the last part about now suspecting Ice. Ice hasn't been around recently so how could he possibly help his teammates out anyways? This just not make any sense at all...

Hmmm...both JL and Grace seem suspect to me.

[Fungi]

I love it Fungi. I like the first person shooter games and the RPG games from time to time, but this one was relaxing. You couldn't die, you're guided through it like an in-game walkthrough and hints strategy guide. There wasn't any drama or worry and you cannot fail or flunk out. Very few parts where you're stumped, mostly it's a hide and seek adventure. Just an all over "fun" game

It's not out Down Under yet, but I'll definately get it, without trying to get side-tracked in the mafia thread


You not wanting to investigate someone at this stage of the game, arouses my suspicion.

My guess is that you do not have an investigation, hence the line "I don't think". Anyone that does not have an investigation is evil.

Fungi, you are not an innocent.

I vote to banish Fungi from the Island.

I suggest that your teamates distance themselves and let you go.

My reasoning for not using the investigation yet is that it's a once-off, not a daily (like the Detective from older games, which I was in the first I played). It seems prudent to use an investigation wisely.


Here Grace brings up a great point and points out that Ice too had not mentioned who he would investigate. I surely thought that she would then question why JL only went at Fungi...but instead she lumps Ice and Fungi together as scum because they "refused" to investigate? And I wouldnt say that they refused to investigate anyone seeing as only 3 people can do that anyways. They just didnt say who they would if they could...

And I do not understand the last part about now suspecting Ice. Ice hasn't been around recently so how could he possibly help his teammates out anyways? This just not make any sense at all...

Hmmm...both JL and Grace seem suspect to me.

That's not really the feeling I got from this, Grace doesn't seem to be looking down her nose at 'us' scum-like, rather remarking at JL's promptness to target yours truly when Ice

"Too many good players to just sit and pick who I'd look at until something peaks my interest." (ammended for grammar)
unquote said pretty much the same thing as I did

[Lady G]

After reading through everything again, I'm a bit concerned about you being so vocal and taking the lead, even placing the first vote. The vote may be good, but it just seems strange to me somehow. As far as the investigations go, it's very critical info, but only to 3. I think your floating of the question may be very suspect. I'm not going to place a vote yet, I hope to be on tomorrow for a bit, but if I had to pick a guilty party at this point it'd be you or Grace.
You do make a good point here Hooked...JL why are you so interested in who and why??
I'm not quite sure what to do with the information once given at this point anyway...anyone coming out and sayin I investigated so and so, are we to believe them from the jump and all vote the same way?? Would we even believe them??


You not wanting to investigate someone at this stage of the game, arouses my suspicion.

My guess is that you do not have an investigation, hence the line "I don't think". Anyone that does not have an investigation is evil.

Fungi, you are not an innocent.

I vote to banish Fungi from the Island.

I suggest that your teamates distance themselves and let you go.

I guess I have to say, I see what Fungi was saying...at the point he said it, not much had happened, I myself figured I would wait until someone peeked my interest before deciding on who I would investigate, I just don't see where him not wanting to investigate someone at the time was so suspicious?

[Lady G]

Whats up..

Been totally worthless since about 11 AM. Getting to old to drink on an empty stomach. But the Crown was to tempting to wait for food and after a few drinks we forgot about food anyway.

Still buzzing pretty good but didn't really see anything worth commenting on.

I have no idea on who I'd investigate at this time but since they can be used at any time I see no reason to use one today. I do know I won't investigate myself.

To many good players to just sit and pick who I'd look at until something peaks my interest.

JL, I think Grace was talking about my post in the birthday thread.

As far as Ice "Refusing" to investigate...where do you JL & Grace get that he is REFUSING??? I see, he doesn't know who he will investigate at this point...I personally do not get I REFUSE TO INVESTIGATE??

In case still interested...I'm thinking John and Grace are moving up on my "who would I investigate" scale. Not really saying either will really be my investigation at this point but if I HAD to do it right now, I'm pretty sure it would be one of them. Is that why you wanted to know who would and why John..were you courious as to how many would name you and how much you had to worry about it???

[IceH2O]

Oh good lord, why on earth for?!? LOL, I just knew what a lapis lazuli was. And since it was blue, it was Ice's birthday and Ice was the first person to point me out, I was being silly.

LOL where was I the 1st to point you out Grace? I made 1 post this game and the only time I mentioned your name was in answering JL where we spoke about our drivers.

I think along with the others that you and JL are on a team. You want to see who will be investigated and hope to hit them with a coconut thereby making all the investigations a waste.

I wouldn't put it pass you guys to have Fungi on your team and trying to put us together so when he shows as one of the named teams the others will want me gone also.Would explain Fungis slight protection of Grace. But I'm not sold yet on it but it was a thought that I felt should be put out there. I'm almost willingly enough,since we now have the ability to switch once, to vote Fungi and see how fast JL moves.

But since I'm not sure of Fungi.

I vote to banish JL from the island


I'll be in and out. I took the day off from work.

[Lady G]

Well, just wanted to let everyone know I will be at work all day till around 5pm (central)...so I will not be able to post until then, from the way things look up to this point I believe my vote will land upon...John, Grace or possibly RB...I would like to hear more from him (RB)...more then just off the wall goofy stuff & questioning of the obvious, like maybe some real thoughts.

[Gracecat]

First from last game Ice... sorry ;)

[Gracecat]

Personally I think the question was just an off the wall question. At this point in the game, that's a reasonable request. Just because. Gut feelings. Why not.

Seriously, no I wouldn't think Ice is on the Lazuli team anymore than I would believe Fungi would be on the emerald team. Yes I knew what lapis lazuli is but I'm not going to sit here and defend my intelligence just because a bunch of guys were ignorant of a bunch of jewelry. Or heck, they could be. At this point of the game and the number of innocents we have playing against evils, I am almost positive they are.

I was being silly because it was the beginning of the game and nothing was substantially posted until someone's observation of me actually knowing what lazuli was.

Since JL posted about Fungi not wanting to investigate, I figured "game on" because he did pose a strong point. Obviously the question was posed on page two. Any reason we give will be pulled straight out of our... well, ya know? Why not? Laziness or a fear of saying the wrong thing and being pounced on? I'm not buying this, there wasn't enough to investigate. We all KNEW there wasn't enough, everybody saw the same thing. And I'm going to assume everybody would recognize any of the "pretend investigation" posing we were doing was all flippant and nobody was actually investigating anybody.


And Ice, I still didn't explain the "first one" bit. In being silly, I was referring to your quite well done analysis of my playing from #26.

[jpappy789]

I have to say, Ice has refused to investigate anyone as well. It makes me wonder if they're not discussing this in PM or offsite. I was being flippant and silly when I remarked about Ice being possible Mafia but now I'm not so sure.

In addition to my silly musings, now I have a real reason to investigate Ice. Is it possible that already this team are splitting up and not helping one another?

Well fungi I took this as you and Ice were the people not discussing so I see it as grace putting you and Ice on a possible team together. That last paragraph still makes no sense to me...care to explain what you meant by them "splitting up" already?

I have JL and Grace high on my list

[jpappy789]

Since JL posted about Fungi not wanting to investigate, I figured "game on" because he did pose a strong point. Obviously the question was posed on page two. Any reason we give will be pulled straight out of our... well, ya know? Why not? Laziness or a fear of saying the wrong thing and being pounced on? I'm not buying this, there wasn't enough to investigate. We all KNEW there wasn't enough, everybody saw the same thing. And I'm going to assume everybody would recognize any of the "pretend investigation" posing we were doing was all flippant and nobody was actually investigating anybody.

So Grace...you arent buying Fungis excuse for not putting up who he would investigate but you say that basically saying who you would investigate is silly because there isnt enough to investigate anyways? Kind of contradictory dont ya think?

[Gracecat]

Not really. Fungi and Ice refused to participate in the group question. They didn't have anyone they wanted to post because they said there's not enough evidence to lean in any one direction.

We all knew there wasn't enough evidence to investigate anybody until this discussion started. Page two? It was just a bunch of howdies essentially. There wasn't any reason to not participate. To me it was the equivalent of "Welcome, tell the group a little about yourself" and saying "no I won't, it's my first day".

[Cory Lover]

About 9.5 hours until night...

1 Fungi: jl
1 jl: Ice

No votes for any one else.

[jpappy789]

Not really. Fungi and Ice refused to participate in the group question. They didn't have anyone they wanted to post because they said there's not enough evidence to lean in any one direction.

We all knew there wasn't enough evidence to investigate anybody until this discussion started. Page two? It was just a bunch of howdies essentially. There wasn't any reason to not participate. To me it was the equivalent of "Welcome, tell the group a little about yourself" and saying "no I won't, it's my first day".

But you said yourself that everyone KNOWS that there wasnt enough to go on. So when someone actually says that that is why they arent choosing to give out who they would investigate then they are suspicious? The "why not" thing is a dumb reason personally. Why not just give us the names of the rest of your team Grace?

[johnlarson66]

LOL where was I the 1st to point you out Grace? I made 1 post this game and the only time I mentioned your name was in answering JL where we spoke about our drivers.

I think along with the others that you and JL are on a team. You want to see who will be investigated and hope to hit them with a coconut thereby making all the investigations a waste.

I wouldn't put it pass you guys to have Fungi on your team and trying to put us together so when he shows as one of the named teams the others will want me gone also.Would explain Fungis slight protection of Grace. But I'm not sold yet on it but it was a thought that I felt should be put out there. I'm almost willingly enough,since we now have the ability to switch once, to vote Fungi and see how fast JL moves.

But since I'm not sure of Fungi.

I vote to banish JL from the island


I'll be in and out. I took the day off from work.

Ice, why not vote for Fungi? I can assure you that my vote will not be changing. I have an idea.

I retract my vote for Fungi and vote to banish Fungi from the island.

So there I have used my switch.

As far as trying to banish a teamate on day one, I just do not see it happening, while it would be a great move, I do not think many are willing to take that risk. Good job of putting it out there, are you on Fungi's team?

So here it sits, I am calling Fungi out. I feel only Fungi's teamates would protect them.

[Gracecat]

I'm sorry jpappy, I don't see where I'm being contradictory here. (I really don't)

There wasn't enough evidence.
We were all winging it.
And two people failed to participate in a discussion the rest of us were having.

Come on, if I can come up with lazuli is blue and ice is blue... so I investigate Ice.... they can come up with the standard. "I'd investigate whoever because he's always evil"

I don't expect the reason to be valid at this point, or even serious. Silly counts. RB made a similar silly post.

The whole point I'm trying to make is that there wasn't participation that johnlarson requested. He observed Fungi made a pass. I said the same about Ice. All of it was still JUST an observation. Not a firm commitment anyway. If it were I'd immediately jump on the Fungi train or start my own with Ice.

Either way, I'm not convinced either of those players are evil. Just questionable for their reluctance to "play along".

[Gracecat]

Ya know JL... It makes me wonder, it really does.... Why would you post a question to get everybody hot and bothered. Are you drawing light from yourself?

I'm under the spotlight for discussing your question and people's response. But nobody is asking why you even suggested investigations the first night.

Just to clarify, where did Fungi protect me? I missed that one.

[johnlarson66]

As far as using the investigations, in past games, I do not think most people that have had the chance to use it just once waited to use it.

I also think that most of the investigations have been used based on a players personality and not their current game play. Most investigations have to do with the player not the game.

Knowing who would investigate who and why does not help the mafia. Why would they hit someone based on that? The mafia will hit for three reasons, to create confusion, frame someone or to remove a threat.

I think it was a valid question and was also curious to see what players might fly under the radar and not get inspected at all.

[johnlarson66]

You do make a good point here Hooked...JL why are you so interested in who and why??
I'm not quite sure what to do with the information once given at this point anyway...anyone coming out and sayin I investigated so and so, are we to believe them from the jump and all vote the same way?? Would we even believe them??



I guess I have to say, I see what Fungi was saying...at the point he said it, not much had happened, I myself figured I would wait until someone peeked my interest before deciding on who I would investigate, I just don't see where him not wanting to investigate someone at the time was so suspicious?

Lady G, you have made some valid points.


anyone coming out and sayin I investigated so and so, are we to believe them from the jump and all vote the same way?? Would we even believe them??


So far no one has said that, but why wouldn't you believe them? This trick would work once. That very person would be on the chopping block the next day if they lied. Also, once they put their investigation out there, they would no longer be a threat to the mafia teams, just an innocent by-stander.

So I see no reason not to believe them.

[johnlarson66]

Ya know JL... It makes me wonder, it really does.... Why would you post a question to get everybody hot and bothered. Are you drawing light from yourself?

I'm under the spotlight for discussing your question and people's response. But nobody is asking why you even suggested investigations the first night.

Just to clarify, where did Fungi protect me? I missed that one.

Gracecat, I am drawing light to myself. How would my game play so far not?

Who has gotten hot and bothered about my question. I do not think anyone has. Now a few have gotten a little concerned about my first vote on Fungi, but with less than 10 hours left, I am more concerned about the lack of votes.

[johnlarson66]

Well I guess a few are bothered by the question also. I just did not take it that way, but looking back, I can see it.

[Gracecat]

I think it was a valid question and was also curious to see what players might fly under the radar and not get inspected at all.

Interesting... I also checked on players.

To my knowledge, and I may be wrong. The only person having not posted in the thread is JM. HN and Ice posted in the investigation discussion. A decision I disagree with, but they did post. I'm under strong consideration for being evil because I'm so danged mouthy, I'm drawing attention to myself.

Is it a game plan to lay very very low while until the mouthy ones get booted? At this time, I'm inclined to vote for Judgemax. But I'm not going to waste my vote on a possible UD though. I'll wait closer to nightfall.

[Gracecat]

Gracecat, I am drawing light to myself. How would my game play so far not?

Who has gotten hot and bothered about my question. I do not think anyone has. Now a few have gotten a little concerned about my first vote on Fungi, but with less than 10 hours left, I am more concerned about the lack of votes.

I see the attention drawing to yourself for your vote, not your question.

"Hot and bothered" was directing to the way we were voting, not to the question itself.

I'm being confusing. I have a toddler boy distracting me. So it's my safest bet to run along until a couple hours before nightfall. :grinyes:

[jpappy789]

So far no one has said that, but why wouldn't you believe them? This trick would work once. That very person would be on the chopping block the next day if they lied. Also, once they put their investigation out there, they would no longer be a threat to the mafia teams, just an innocent by-stander.

So I see no reason not to believe them.

I see a few plausibe hypo-situations here

1). the person is an innocent

They come out with who they investigated. We deicide to banish that person and get a scumbag. The person who invesitgated is most likely in the clear.

2.) the person is not innocent

We lynch who they say. Now remember that who they mention has a 50/50 chance of being innocent or not. If the person ends up innocent then the one who came out would be gone the next day. If they mention someone on the opposing team the town risks the chance of believing that they are innocent. Is that a risk the town is willing to take?

[johnlarson66]

I see a few plausibe hypo-situations here

1). the person is an innocent

They come out with who they investigated. We deicide to banish that person and get a scumbag. The person who invesitgated is most likely in the clear.

2.) the person is not innocent

We lynch who they say. Now remember that who they mention has a 50/50 chance of being innocent or not. If the person ends up innocent then the one who came out would be gone the next day. If they mention someone on the opposing team the town risks the chance of believing that they are innocent. Is that a risk the town is willing to take?

jpappy, explain this 50/50 chance.

I do not understand your answer 2.

[jpappy789]

If a "mafia" comes from one team they can name a person either innocent or on another team (Most likely they will not name a teammate). They will not know what role that person is but at this point there would be a 50% chance that they are innocent and a 50% chance that they are on the other team (3 and 3).

[jpappy789]

Well, I guess you have to take into account what the ratio of players left is when they come out but do you at least get what I am saying?

[johnlarson66]

Let's just get this out of the way.

I had an investagation and I used it on Fungi, mostly because I felt that the other players with investigations would not investigate Fungi.

Fungi is a member of the Emerald Alliance.

[johnlarson66]

If a "mafia" comes from one team they can name a person either innocent or on another team (Most likely they will not name a teammate). They will not know what role that person is but at this point there would be a 50% chance that they are innocent and a 50% chance that they are on the other team (3 and 3).

Still a high risk move only to put their own neck out there. Ice's idea is better, just name one of your own and then have the trust of the rest of the island.

If I was mafia, it would be best to name someone from my own team that I knew was mafia than to take a 50/50 risk. If I failed on the 50/50 I would be dead for sure.

[jpappy789]

Now I am torn between whether to believe you or not...though I have no suspects other than you and grace but nothing strong enough to warrant a vote so I will have to wait...

[jpappy789]

Still a high risk move only to put their own neck out there. Ice's idea is better, just name one of your own and then have the trust of the rest of the island.

If I was mafia, it would be best to name someone from my own team that I knew was mafia than to take a 50/50 risk. If I failed on the 50/50 I would be dead for sure.

So now the question...Did you name someone from your team?

[Gracecat]

So we have one possible UD and one known.

That leaves seven unknowns.

[johnlarson66]

Now I am torn between whether to believe you or not...though I have no suspects other than you and grace but nothing strong enough to warrant a vote so I will have to wait...

Why would I lie?

If mafia, why would I choose such a move? What is there to be torn about. If I am lying, then I am dead the next day.

I think we can be sure that Fungi is a member of the Emerald Alliance.

What we can't be sure of is what I am:

Am I a member of the Emerald Alliance and have chosen to gain the trust of the town by killing one of my two teamates? Which makes me a big target for the Lazuli Alliance to hit me or to cast doubt on me.

Am I am member of the Lazuli Alliance and have taken a 50/50 chance to name Emerald Alliance member?

Am I an innocent that has used his investigation and has made that information public?

If Fungi comes up innocent, then by all means banish me. Let me be the one that the mafia teams goes after. Which at this point, I do not think they will. My investigation is spent.

I see no reason to wait.

[jpappy789]

Good point.

I vote to banish Fungi

Though with the rules changed I am still open for discussion and will still contemplaate about my vote.

[IceH2O]

Why would I lie?

If mafia, why would I choose such a move? What is there to be torn about. If I am lying, then I am dead the next day.

I think we can be sure that Fungi is a member of the Emerald Alliance.

What we can't be sure of is what I am:

Am I a member of the Emerald Alliance and have chosen to gain the trust of the town by killing one of my two teamates? Which makes me a big target for the Lazuli Alliance to hit me or to cast doubt on me.

Am I am member of the Lazuli Alliance and have taken a 50/50 chance to name Emerald Alliance member?

Am I an innocent that has used his investigation and has made that information public?

If Fungi comes up innocent, then by all means banish me. Let me be the one that the mafia teams goes after. Which at this point, I do not think they will. My investigation is spent.

I see no reason to wait.


What I'd be worried about is that you did indeed name a team mate or you named a player from the other team.

If you named a team mate you buy some safety for yourself.

You might have opened yourself up to the other team but they need to get rid of you anyway to win.Since anyone NOT on their team is the enemy you were a target to begin with.But if the innocents believe you it will be hard to lynch you so the other team needs to use a coconut hit,which is only a 50/50 shot.

If you named a player from the other team its the same scenario. Innocents less willingly to lynch you,or need to use an investigation on you, and they still need to do a coconut hit.

You have essentially forced a hit on yourself to which you have a 50/50 shot of surviving.

Since the chance of you just naming a player and hoping they are on the other team is to risky I think you named a team mate or are honestly an innocent.

Now the question becomes do one of the 3 innocents waste an investigation to find out if you are telling the truth.Well other 2 since if you are one then ones been used already.

[IceH2O]

I so do want to investigate you. But what I really want to use my investigation on is to clear a player. I'd rather know my 2 allies then to know who is the enemy.

If I investigate you and find you to be Emerald then I wasted a chance on clearing a player.

If I don't investigate you and you are banished an innocent then we're down to 2 players vs 6 enemies.

If I do investigate and come out that you're innocent then they have 2 targets for them to hit to get rid of knowing they belong to the innocent team.

Since most have said I'd be the one they would investigate then the teams will know what I am anyway. If I come back one of the teams they will post it or vote to lynch me. If I come back innocent they won't say anything or refuse to vote me.

Since I'm pretty much a given away player in that aspect I think I will investigate you JL.

[Fungi]

This has given me a lot to think about, but I may be processing it all incorrectly as I'm somewhat tired...

What perks my interest is:


I think we can be sure that Fungi is a member of the Emerald Alliance


Coupled with


I think it was a valid question and was also curious to see what players might fly under the radar and not get inspected at all.

It's a somewhat tenuous link, but with me supposedly getting 'hot and bothered' by this nominal investigation, you, Grace, Papi and myself have all drawn enough attention to me to warrant perhaps multiple investigations, yet you claim that I seem to be the sort of player that nobody would investigate. It could well be likely that somebody affirms or denounces your claim within the next 5 hours before Sunset.

Next to Papi: What is this 50/50 you're talking about? This makes the game seem more about luck than decisive voting, I'd hope that the two teams would target the enemy first and foremost rather than a coin-flip, there'd be reasoning to tip the scales perhaps 60/40 before voting.

The simple mathematics you have used betray you as a member of an alliance, speaking from an Alliance perspective, the way that you 'know' that (two) other members are allies that leaves 3:3, hence the 50/50 derived from it. It may be well that the teams aren't fair as CL did claim that he reserved the right to 'hand-pick' and you may be an innocent who has just counted-the-legs-divide-by-two to get those numbers, but that sure as heck-fire is suspicous enough to warrant my vote

I vote to banish Papi from the island

[Fungi]

I had an investagation and I used it on Fungi, mostly because I felt that the other players with investigations would not investigate Fungi.

.


This is the quote I tried to find above before

[johnlarson66]

Ice, I can understand investigating me. If you have waited this long, why not wait and see what happens.

If you (or anyone) chooses to investigate me, I hope they share the results with the rest of the island.

I will add this, just because someone claims to have investigated me and shows me innocent in no way means that I will trust them.

I fully expect that I will be hit or banished in the days to come.

I am still curious that more have not voted yet. I really think it is simple, either I am a liar and vote to banish me or I am telling the truth and vote to banish Fungi. It is not really that complicated.

If tomorrow I am still around, then everyone can consider if I set my own teamate up, took a 50/50 chance of being right or am innocent. Being innocent but not having an investigation really does nothing for me the next day. I will just be a by-stander or a target. Either way, the town trusting me will mean nothing. I have used my investigation.

This is just one shot folks. I investigated Fungi. I am telling the island the results. What is done with that information will be very telling.

[johnlarson66]

Fungi, since you are posting. Do you wish to deny that you are in fact part a member of the Emerald Alliance?

Why not OMGUS vote me? Why not try to discredit me? Odd vote for jpap. Not sure if that helps or hurts him. Either way, why not just admit that you are a member of the Emerald Alliance.

I have called you out Fungi. Are your teamates coming to your aid? Have they let you deal with this on your own? What do you say about this. What are you going to do next?

[Fungi]

I'm leaving for work in half an hour, I just woke up an hour and a bit ago, I've had half an hour to process about four pages of information, just to explain the deluge. It may appear as a sudden rush to 'clear' my name but in reality it's different time-zones wreaking havoc.

I'm kicking myself for not realising earlier, as with the top post of the last page (JL's I think, I have very little time to back-track to confirm, not skimming), he accepts Papi's 50/50 theory without raising the same point that I did, then throws in a few hypotheticals just to keep his bases of ambiguity covered, I also noted the speed with which Papi followed JL's vote to banish me, I believe that this is sufficient a link between the two to show that they are almost certainly on the same team, the sort of understanding to-ing and fro-ing that allies often show... the certainty with which JL locked in his vote and Papi's 'me too-ing' and hyp-hen-ating (lawlz) certainly resounds on my radar

Stupid me for not doing it earlier, though it may appear as an OMGUS

I retract my vote from Papi and instead vote to banish JL from the island

The rest I have no control over what happens now, it's locked in just as yours is, JL

Good luck and good night ;)

[IceH2O]

You're right JL. I shouldn't investigate you and we'll just see what happens.

I pretty much bluffed it to see who said what. My investigation is going to another player. I think it will tell us a lot through whats been posted so far.

Though same as you posted above, just because you posted a player as being from a team doesn't make you innocent IMO.

If CL gives me my info in time I will switch my vote, but until then I need to stay where I am.

If the person I have investigated comes back innocent and I assume you are innocent then we have a pretty cut and dry of who is what.

[IceH2O]

Fungi, since you are posting. Do you wish to deny that you are in fact part a member of the Emerald Alliance?

Why not OMGUS vote me? Why not try to discredit me? Odd vote for jpap. Not sure if that helps or hurts him. Either way, why not just admit that you are a member of the Emerald Alliance.

I have called you out Fungi. Are your teamates coming to your aid? Have they let you deal with this on your own? What do you say about this. What are you going to do next?

Guess what just came to the box.

Hey Jpap, you should have told your team mate to not have voted for you.

I retract my vote for JL and vote to banish Fungi from the island

Tomorrows vote will be for Jpap and that will be 2/3s of a team gone.

[Cory Lover]

About 4.5 hours until night...

3 Fungi: jl, Ice, jpappy
1 jl: Fungi

Sorry if I missed any votes...I just have to get back to school...will be back on in an hour or so.

No votes for any one else.

[johnlarson66]

jpappy, explain this 50/50 chance.

I do not understand your answer 2.

Fungi, you must have missed this. I did question this.

If jpappy vote jumps then I will believe that Ice found him to be on the same team as Fungi. Until that happens, I will wait to see what tomorrow brings. Most likely I will be gone, but the more I think about it, the more I think they might want me around to get the island to banish instead of hitting me.

With no investigation, I am no longer a threat, plus there will always be the doubt that I was on the Emerald Alliance. Maybe the team is Fungi, jpappy and me.

With Ice now claiming to be an innocent and that he has investigated jpappy, it will be very interesting the next day. Even if I die, I will enjoy watching the game.

If I am around, I will most likely be voting for jpappy tomorrow.

[Hooked Newbie]

Wow, what a day you guys had! I need to reread things, but I'm of a mind to trust JL for now (pending results). I may even have to trust Ice tomorrow (:eek:).

I vote to toss Fungi from the Island.

[Cory Lover]

Less then four hours until night...

4 Fungi: jl, Ice, jpappy, HN
1 jl: Fungi


No votes from: LG, grace, JM, and rb.

[Rbishop]

Well, just wanted to let everyone know I will be at work all day till around 5pm (central)...so I will not be able to post until then, from the way things look up to this point I believe my vote will land upon...John, Grace or possibly RB...I would like to hear more from him (RB)...more then just off the wall goofy stuff & questioning of the obvious, like maybe some real thoughts.

Other than my first post, I haven't done anything goofy. I always question the obvious, Lady G. Especially when it is posted by some one evil and loves to excuse away their slips.

I vote to banish Lady G from the Island...

[IceH2O]

I figure if Fungi doesn't show as Emerald then JL is Emerald along with Jpap.

If JL is innocent then the teams have 2 innocents. But they don't get their hit tonight,the rules say after Day 1.

Cory can you clarify the hits a bit better?

Is it both teams put in their hits and its a 50% chance on whose goes through so only 1 player goes home that night

or

Is it both teams get a hit but only a 50% chance the hits work? Which means it could be 2 players go home. 1 dies and 1 lives or no one dies because both fail.

I actually like the 2nd situation as we have the chance at both hits missing.

We have 2 of the Emeralds in our sight. Day 2 eve one of us innocents dies, most likely, that leaves it 3 Laz 1 Emerald and 2 innocent. If we can get a Laz on Day 3 and they kill another innocent it will be 2 Laz and 1 Emerald and 1 innocent left. Emerald either has to hit Laz or lose the game to them.If Laz hits an Emerald instead of an innocent they are back in the game.

[Hooked Newbie]

Other than my first post, I haven't done anything goofy. I always question the obvious, Lady G. Especially when it is posted by some one evil and loves to excuse away their slips.

I vote to banish Lady G from the Island...

Are we to assume that you don't believe JL is telling the truth? Not that I think it's a bad vote, but with a "confirmed" alliance member, why waste the vote unless trying to distance from LG or protect Fungi?

[Cory Lover]

I figure if Fungi doesn't show as Emerald then JL is Emerald along with Jpap.

If JL is innocent then the teams have 2 innocents. But they don't get their hit tonight,the rules say after Day 1.

Cory can you clarify the hits a bit better?

Is it both teams put in their hits and its a 50% chance on whose goes through so only 1 player goes home that night

or

Is it both teams get a hit but only a 50% chance the hits work? Which means it could be 2 players go home. 1 dies and 1 lives or no one dies because both fail.

I actually like the 2nd situation as we have the chance at both hits missing.

We have 2 of the Emeralds in our sight. Day 2 eve one of us innocents dies, most likely, that leaves it 3 Laz 1 Emerald and 2 innocent. If we can get a Laz on Day 3 and they kill another innocent it will be 2 Laz and 1 Emerald and 1 innocent left. Emerald either has to hit Laz or lose the game to them.If Laz hits an Emerald instead of an innocent they are back in the game.

Its the second situation you stated. Each alliance has one coconut hit, which they can use at anytime in the game after night #1, and it will be revealed at nightfall. If the hit goes through (50% chance), that player dies, if it doesn't (50% chance), the player lives and it will be revealed who the alliance tried to killed (though I wont name which alliance tried).

Matt

[IceH2O]

Its the second situation you stated. Each alliance has one coconut hit, which they can use at anytime in the game after night #1, and it will be revealed at nightfall. If the hit goes through (50% chance), that player dies, if it doesn't (50% chance), the player lives and it will be revealed who the alliance tried to killed (though I wont name which alliance tried).

Matt

Even sweeter,its not a nightly hit.Each team only gets 1 per game.

[johnlarson66]

Other than my first post, I haven't done anything goofy. I always question the obvious, Lady G. Especially when it is posted by some one evil and loves to excuse away their slips.

I vote to banish Lady G from the Island...

“I haven't done anything goofy”, not until THIS post.

Have you been reading? Why would you not vote for Fungi or myself? You have not even mentioned anything about it. Very Very Odd.

I am glad you have voted to avoid a UD. Maybe this is a bit of distancing?

I understand not wanting to jump on a train, as far as I can tell, there is no reason for anyone not to vote for Fungi, unless they think I am a lair, then they should vote for me. To muddy the water with another player at this point makes no sense. This is really not about a train as it is about if I had an investigation or not.

[Rbishop]

Are we to assume that you don't believe JL is telling the truth? Not that I think it's a bad vote, but with a "confirmed" alliance member, why waste the vote unless trying to distance from LG or protect Fungi?


I have no clue that he is telling the truth..he could be lieing. Looks like the rules and definition of them are going to change as we progress....

[johnlarson66]

Its the second situation you stated. Each alliance has one coconut hit, which they can use at anytime in the game after night #1, and it will be revealed at nightfall. If the hit goes through (50% chance), that player dies, if it doesn't (50% chance), the player lives and it will be revealed who the alliance tried to killed (though I wont name which alliance tried).

Matt

Sweet, I like this twist. Two things, we are told who was missed, plus the teams could both hit the same player and they only get one hit after all.

I wish there were more players. Like 3 more innocents.

[johnlarson66]

I have no clue that he is telling the truth..he could be lieing. Looks like the rules and definition of them are going to change as we progress....

Next someone will discover a Tech device on the island. Maybe there will be a black mist? How about some mystical powers from the natives?

[Cory Lover]

Less then three hours until night...

4 Fungi: jl, Ice, jpappy, HN
1 jl: Fungi
1 LG: rb


No votes from: LG, grace, and JM.

[IceH2O]

I seen LG posted in her thread at 6:02 PM but not here yet.

Guess she is trying to get in touch with her team to see what they want to do.

[johnlarson66]

I seen LG posted in her thread at 6:02 PM but not here yet.

Guess she is trying to get in touch with her team to see what they want to do.

I noticed that also. Odd that Lady G has not posted here.

[Lady G]

Let's just get this out of the way.

I had an investagation and I used it on Fungi, mostly because I felt that the other players with investigations would not investigate Fungi.

Fungi is a member of the Emerald Alliance.

John, I tend to believe you...I just do not see you as one to name a team mate...not with only having 2. I do believe you just made yourself a target for either mafia team...if you are innocent. If you are a member of the of the Emerald team, you just made yourself a target of the the Lazuli and IF Fungi comes up innocent you will be a target for the town.

So, yes I am going to believe you and I vote to banish Fungi from the Island

[jpappy789]

I'm leaving for work in half an hour, I just woke up an hour and a bit ago, I've had half an hour to process about four pages of information, just to explain the deluge. It may appear as a sudden rush to 'clear' my name but in reality it's different time-zones wreaking havoc.

I'm kicking myself for not realising earlier, as with the top post of the last page (JL's I think, I have very little time to back-track to confirm, not skimming), he accepts Papi's 50/50 theory without raising the same point that I did, then throws in a few hypotheticals just to keep his bases of ambiguity covered, I also noted the speed with which Papi followed JL's vote to banish me, I believe that this is sufficient a link between the two to show that they are almost certainly on the same team, the sort of understanding to-ing and fro-ing that allies often show... the certainty with which JL locked in his vote and Papi's 'me too-ing' and hyp-hen-ating (lawlz) certainly resounds on my radar

Stupid me for not doing it earlier, though it may appear as an OMGUS

I retract my vote from Papi and instead vote to banish JL from the island

The rest I have no control over what happens now, it's locked in just as yours is, JL

Good luck and good night ;)

Fungi I had a post in there about what I meant about the 50/50 thing. It was if someone came out as mafia and did a fake investigation. Obviously you are trying to take me down with you.


Guess what just came to the box.

Hey Jpap, you should have told your team mate to not have voted for you.

I retract my vote for JL and vote to banish Fungi from the island

Tomorrows vote will be for Jpap and that will be 2/3s of a team gone.

Sure. I am guessing you are Lazuli only because with Fungi leaving tonight you wouldnt put a target on your back by falsely accusing me.


Fungi, you must have missed this. I did question this.

If jpappy vote jumps then I will believe that Ice found him to be on the same team as Fungi. Until that happens, I will wait to see what tomorrow brings. Most likely I will be gone, but the more I think about it, the more I think they might want me around to get the island to banish instead of hitting me.

With no investigation, I am no longer a threat, plus there will always be the doubt that I was on the Emerald Alliance. Maybe the team is Fungi, jpappy and me.

With Ice now claiming to be an innocent and that he has investigated jpappy, it will be very interesting the next day. Even if I die, I will enjoy watching the game.

If I am around, I will most likely be voting for jpappy tomorrow.

Nope, no vote jump. I feel fine on the Fungi train.


Other than my first post, I haven't done anything goofy. I always question the obvious, Lady G. Especially when it is posted by some one evil and loves to excuse away their slips.

I vote to banish Lady G from the Island...

Rb is most definitely on a bad team.

I see it as this...

Emerald:

Fungi
RB
Lady g

Lazuli:

Ice
Grace
Jmax

[Lady G]

Other than my first post, I haven't done anything goofy. I always question the obvious, Lady G. Especially when it is posted by some one evil and loves to excuse away their slips.

I vote to banish Lady G from the Island...
RB, so who slipped and on what???


I seen LG posted in her thread at 6:02 PM but not here yet.

Guess she is trying to get in touch with her team to see what they want to do.

Yes, I did post...then I came here, got caught up and posted in here.:) Sorry, I didn't just skim through and vote...I actually do take the time to read what has been said before I post.

When I read Fungi's vote to Jpap...my first thought was that they were a team, now you have come out and said that you investigated him...very interesting!

What else I find interesting is RB's vote for someone besides Fungi...granted it was to me, but something I thought worthy to note, is it because he is the third Emerald team mate???

[IceH2O]

Nice try Jpap but I KNOW you are Emerald.

I was wondering a bit about RB and his vote but I think you cleared that up for me.

So I'm thinking we have:

Emerald:

Fungi
Jpap
LG

Laz:

HN
Grace
JM

[Gracecat]

I'm in town. Stopped to post before I
I'd. Cell phone posts suck. Haven't read veyond page twlve. Will change if I can but going to vote Jp will change if I. Can get home soon enough and read more. But that was early gut impression he is in an alliance with I'm and fungi was or is a throw awayI vote JB

[jpappy789]

JB?

[johnlarson66]

Nice try Jpap but I KNOW you are Emerald.

I was wondering a bit about RB and his vote but I think you cleared that up for me.

So I'm thinking we have:

Emerald:

Fungi
Jpap
LG

Laz:

HN
Grace
JM

So Ice, the innocents are me, you and Rb?

[Lady G]

I'm in town. Stopped to post before I
I'd. Cell phone posts suck. Haven't read veyond page twlve. Will change if I can but going to vote Jp will change if I. Can get home soon enough and read more. But that was early gut impression he is in an alliance with I'm and fungi was or is a throw awayI vote JB

??????? Who is JB??? Also what about the alliance thing, you have lost me completly here!!

[Gracecat]

ack ack ack. Freaked at time in town. Wrong vote. Retract vote for Jb. I vote to banish I'm from island.

[johnlarson66]

ack ack ack. Freaked at time in town. Wrong vote. Retract vote for Jb. I vote to banish I'm from island.

?????

[johnlarson66]

ack ack ack. Freaked at time in town. Wrong vote. Retract vote for Jb. I vote to banish I'm from island.

Did someone give Grace the babble vial?

[Gracecat]

Phone self corrected. JB

[Lady G]

Did someone give Grace the babble vial?

I'm thinking we have a winner here with possibly the third team mate??

[IceH2O]

So Ice, the innocents are me, you and Rb?

Yes I believe so.

I think RB investigated LG.

I might not have the teams correct as LG could be Laz but we do know Jpap and Fungi are team mates. I could be wrong but I think RB was setting himself up to be a tie breaking vote in case enough people tried to tie it up as a 4-4.

I'm not 100% positive of RB just as I'm not 100% positive of you but the fact that you said Fungi was Emerald then Fungi voted Jpap peeked my interest enough to switch my invest from you to Jpap. So I'm sure enough right now to believe you. I think RBs vote for LG was his way to tell us without coming out as an innocent himself.

[Lady G]

Yes I believe so.

I think RB investigated LG.

I might not have the teams correct as LG could be Laz but we do know Jpap and Fungi are team mates. I could be wrong but I think RB was setting himself up to be a tie breaking vote in case enough people tried to tie it up as a 4-4.

I'm not 100% positive of RB just as I'm not 100% positive of you but the fact that you said Fungi was Emerald then Fungi voted Jpap peeked my interest enough to switch my invest from you to Jpap. So I'm sure enough right now to believe you. I think RBs vote for LG was his way to tell us without coming out as an innocent himself.

LOL, funny you see it that way...I think it was a last ditch effort to try and pull heat off his team mates.

[IceH2O]

Grace are we supposed to lynch
JB
I'm
JB
JB or
JB?

[johnlarson66]

Yes I believe so.

I think RB investigated LG.

I might not have the teams correct as LG could be Laz but we do know Jpap and Fungi are team mates. I could be wrong but I think RB was setting himself up to be a tie breaking vote in case enough people tried to tie it up as a 4-4.

I'm not 100% positive of RB just as I'm not 100% positive of you but the fact that you said Fungi was Emerald then Fungi voted Jpap peeked my interest enough to switch my invest from you to Jpap. So I'm sure enough right now to believe you. I think RBs vote for LG was his way to tell us without coming out as an innocent himself.

I can see how that could be taken that way. I did my best to let everyone know without coming out as an innocent and there is still some doubt.

Rb says something of a slip up, but does not quote it. Hard to even know what he is talking about.

If he has investigated Lady G, then I think it would be best to come out with it. I do not think there will be a 4-4 tie. The only ones that are going to vote for me is going to be Fungi and maybe a teamate. Not voting for Fungi at this point is highly suspicous.

[IceH2O]

LOL, funny you see it that way...I think it was a last ditch effort to try and pull heat off his team mates.

How exactly would him voting for you pull heat from 2 players that have been named as Emerald?

His best bet would have just to have done what you did and the others and follow the train on Fungi and stay hidden.

[Lady G]

How exactly would him voting for you pull heat from 2 players that have been named as Emerald?

His best bet would have just to have done what you did and the others and follow the train on Fungi and stay hidden.

Because Ice....I may be wrong about what team he is on, and I was going to save this since you came out and so did JL already, but I investigated JM she is on the Lazuli team...THERE now we are all out are you happy!!!!

[Hooked Newbie]

Nice try Jpap but I KNOW you are Emerald.

I was wondering a bit about RB and his vote but I think you cleared that up for me.

So I'm thinking we have:

Emerald:

Fungi
Jpap
LG

Laz:

HN
Grace
JM

I think you're definitely close. One off from what I see, but that will come to light eventually.


I'm in town. Stopped to post before I
I'd. Cell phone posts suck. Haven't read veyond page twlve. Will change if I can but going to vote Jp will change if I. Can get home soon enough and read more. But that was early gut impression he is in an alliance with I'm and fungi was or is a throw awayI vote JB


So Ice, the innocents are me, you and Rb?

Almost...


ack ack ack. Freaked at time in town. Wrong vote. Retract vote for Jb. I vote to banish I'm from island.


Phone self corrected. JB


Grace are we supposed to lynch
JB
I'm
JB
JB or
JB?

LMAO! Grace is gonna UD before she gets an actual vote out.

[Hooked Newbie]

I can see how that could be taken that way. I did my best to let everyone know without coming out as an innocent and there is still some doubt.

Rb says something of a slip up, but does not quote it. Hard to even know what he is talking about.

If he has investigated Lady G, then I think it would be best to come out with it. I do not think there will be a 4-4 tie. The only ones that are going to vote for me is going to be Fungi and maybe a teamate. Not voting for Fungi at this point is highly suspicous.

Rb hasn't investigated anyone... but LG IS Lazuli.

[Lady G]

Rb hasn't investigated anyone... but LG IS Lazuli.

LOL, now everyone is going to come out and say....OH BUT I INVESTIGATED so and so!

[Gracecat]

Holy Hell.... That's a trip. And an addiction. I drove 80 through town to get home before I UD.

Now... I was going to vote for JP (I typed JB). But then decided no, I was mistaken on which post I was thinking of, and I wanted to vote for JL.

Then someone said JB???? And I'm freaking, because... I'm in town.. and then when I voted JL, my stupid iphone has an auto-correct spelling doodad and it turned into "I'm"...

SO! If the rest of the group hasn't decided I've UD'd myself from that stupid cluster of votes, I vote to banish JL from the island.

Now I'm going to drive back to Wal mart at a reasonable rate of speed to buy that danged toilet paper I forgot.

[Lady G]

So the way I see it, tomorrow we vote Pap or JM, then go after RB...HN, looks like Grace is going to UD, since she still is to vote for an actual player and I believe we have out teams!!!

[Hooked Newbie]

I can see how that could be taken that way. I did my best to let everyone know without coming out as an innocent and there is still some doubt.

Rb says something of a slip up, but does not quote it. Hard to even know what he is talking about.

If he has investigated Lady G, then I think it would be best to come out with it. I do not think there will be a 4-4 tie. The only ones that are going to vote for me is going to be Fungi and maybe a teamate. Not voting for Fungi at this point is highly suspicous.


LOL, now everyone is going to come out and say....OH BUT I INVESTIGATED so and so!

They can, but they'll be lying.

[johnlarson66]

Rb hasn't investigated anyone... but LG IS Lazuli.

I am guessing that JM is going to UD. I am also guessing that Lady G know this.

I think a good group of hand picked innocents is a game with more mafia than innocents would be myself, Ice, and HN. Just a hunch.

We will see what happens during night fall.

All I am certain about is that Fungi is part of the Emerald Alliance.

[IceH2O]

Because Ice....I may be wrong about what team he is on, and I was going to save this since you came out and so did JL already, but I investigated JM she is on the Lazuli team...THERE now we are all out are you happy!!!!


I'll only be happy if the other team decides to take you out instead of JL or myself and weaken the other team for us innocents lol.

[Lady G]

Well, I see she did make it to vote, but will it count with all her switching and non players and such???

[Gracecat]

Now... since that's done. And I don't have to worry about UD'ing.. I'll explain why.

Fungi is, as most strongly believe including myself, to be Emerald, if not alliance. That's positive.

But the pitter patter between JP and JL lead me to believe that they are either A) lying and hoping to vote an innocent, or they're teammates and the team decided to hang one of their own in order to win town confidence and trust. So my first vote would be to the person who started this whole "who would investigate who" and the one that actually did use their investigation on the first day and posted about it.

*glances at the time*
And I'm still under the wire!!! FTW wooo hooo ;)



And without a speeding ticket. ;)

[johnlarson66]

Holy Hell.... That's a trip. And an addiction. I drove 80 through town to get home before I UD.

Now... I was going to vote for JP (I typed JB). But then decided no, I was mistaken on which post I was thinking of, and I wanted to vote for JL.

Then someone said JB???? And I'm freaking, because... I'm in town.. and then when I voted JL, my stupid iphone has an auto-correct spelling doodad and it turned into "I'm"...

SO! If the rest of the group hasn't decided I've UD'd myself from that stupid cluster of votes, I vote to banish JL from the island.

Now I'm going to drive back to Wal mart at a reasonable rate of speed to buy that danged toilet paper I forgot.

I think your vote should count.

[Gracecat]

If I had been at home, it wouldn't have been many non players. But with all of the JM's, JL's and Rb's.... As a newbie I'd hope I'd get a pass on those mistakes. The last one "I'm" was by fault of my iphone.

However! I'm also partially expecting Cory Lover to come through and UD me by that cluster. It was admittedly very very confusing. Lesson learned? Make doggone sure you have a vote in before leaving the house within 3 hours of nightfall. Even if you think you're going to change.

[Hooked Newbie]

Now... since that's done. And I don't have to worry about UD'ing.. I'll explain why.

Fungi is, as most strongly believe including myself, to be Emerald, if not alliance. That's positive.

But the pitter patter between JP and JL lead me to believe that they are either A) lying and hoping to vote an innocent, or they're teammates and the team decided to hang one of their own in order to win town confidence and trust. So my first vote would be to the person who started this whole "who would investigate who" and the one that actually did use their investigation on the first day and posted about it.

*glances at the time*
And I'm still under the wire!!! FTW wooo hooo ;)



And without a speeding ticket. ;)


Grace... :headshake2:

You outted yourself again girl. IF Fungi comes back as Emerald, JL is telling the truth and you are most assuredly evil.

[Hooked Newbie]

If I had been at home, it wouldn't have been many non players. But with all of the JM's, JL's and Rb's.... As a newbie I'd hope I'd get a pass on those mistakes. The last one "I'm" was by fault of my iphone.

However! I'm also partially expecting Cory Lover to come through and UD me by that cluster. It was admittedly very very confusing. Lesson learned? Make doggone sure you have a vote in before leaving the house within 3 hours of nightfall. Even if you think you're going to change.

You can forever now be known as GC. lol

[Gracecat]

HN.... I was going by JP and Ice's comment where they lined up everybody by teams. I think they're two good players and should be listened two.

I haven't outted myself at all.

[Gracecat]

too... see, I can't even get my to's, two's, too's right tonight.

GC is fine. I should be able to remember that one.

[johnlarson66]

GC are you on the Emerald Alliance? I am guessing so.

[Gracecat]

I'm guessing You, JP and Fungi were on a team. Either he's innocent and you lied so he would be voted off quickly, or you tossed a team member. :)

Just a few pages back everybody thought I was lazuli because I knew a bit about the stone. ;)

I could just be a really confusing twisted innocent. :screwy::p:

[Fungi]

I've forgotten what I was going to say... I don't think GC should UD, it was the fault of technology.
My guess for innocents is:
JL
Ice
Judge

I'm unfased by the train, I s'pose someone had to go out first day

[johnlarson66]

I'm guessing You, JP and Fungi were on a team. Either he's innocent and you lied so he would be voted off quickly, or you tossed a team member. :)

Just a few pages back everybody thought I was lazuli because I knew a bit about the stone. ;)

I could just be a really confusing twisted innocent. :screwy::p:

So if Fungi is on my team, why not vote for Fungi. Why take the risk that I might be innocent.

You are voting for me because I voted for my teamate? That is the best you have?

Then you also throw jpappy in there, who by the way recieved a vote from Fungi, who then changed it to me.

Maybe you can just banish yourself.

[johnlarson66]

I've forgotten what I was going to say... I don't think GC should UD, it was the fault of technology.
My guess for innocents is:
JL
Ice
Judge

I'm unfased by the train, I s'pose someone had to go out first day

Fungi, thanks for posting and having some class. While I do not trust the rest of your list, I am glad that you have conceded to being mafia.

Maybe you can talk some sense into GC. She needs a friend. I do agree that her vote on me should stand or that she is even given the chance to change it.

[Lady G]

I'm guessing You, JP and Fungi were on a team. Either he's innocent and you lied so he would be voted off quickly, or you tossed a team member. :)

Just a few pages back everybody thought I was lazuli because I knew a bit about the stone. ;)

I could just be a really confusing twisted innocent. :screwy::p:

Quite honestly, anyone could be lying about the investigations....I think we should get this night on, see what the outcome is and go from there. IF Fungi comes up Emerald, then we have 1 of 2 things to believe, either John is innocent or he is a member of the same team, throwing one of his own to the wolves (so to say) gaining trust of the town and a 50/50 chance to be hit by the other team.

If he comes up innocent we know he was lying PERIOD.

IMO, if and I believe he will Fungi comes up Emerald, I say we go to Jpap next and test rather or not Ice is telling the truth and so on...once each person has been tested we can go from there, and hope the coconut hits miss....leading us to a win.

[Fungi]

I see the three of us 'Emeralds' going down with the same ship, Papi, myself and JL (whom I think is innocent, but lying), what a weird turn of events...

However, I should like it if JL and Papi are tied to me in any way, after all, I did vote for both

[johnlarson66]

Quite honestly, anyone could be lying about the investigations....I think we should get this night on, see what the outcome is and go from there. IF Fungi comes up Emerald, then we have 1 of 2 things to believe, either John is innocent or he is a member of the same team, throwing one of his own to the wolves (so to say) gaining trust of the town and a 50/50 chance to be hit by the other team.

If he comes up innocent we know he was lying PERIOD.

IMO, if and I believe he will Fungi comes up Emerald, I say we go to Jpap next and test rather or not Ice is telling the truth and so on...once each person has been tested we can go from there, and hope the coconut hits miss....leading us to a win.


I see the three of us 'Emeralds' going down with the same ship, Papi, myself and JL (whom I think is innocent, but lying), what a weird turn of events...

However, I should like it if JL and Papi are tied to me in any way, after all, I did vote for both

It is posts like these that make me smile. Now what will the teams do, hit me or let me defend myself the next day. I would rather play with the cloud of suspicion over me than not.

We have three others claiming to have investigations. Atleast one is lying.

We also have Ice claiming that Rb could be innocent and used his investigation on Lady G.

I am pretty excited about night fall. I hope I survive the night.

[Lady G]

I see the three of us 'Emeralds' going down with the same ship, Papi, myself and JL (whom I think is innocent, but lying), what a weird turn of events...

However, I should like it if JL and Papi are tied to me in any way, after all, I did vote for both

So you are "outting" Pap as one of your mates for sure then eh?? Hmmm, very interesting and at the same time you are lumping JL in with you too...but saying you think he is innocent?

[johnlarson66]

-Lazuli Alliance: Your #1 priority is to vote off members of the Emerald Alliance, and then innocents.

-Emerald Alliance: Your #1 priority is to vote off members of the Lazuli Alliance, then innocents.


Just remember to keep your priorities straight!

[Cory Lover]

IT'S NIGHTFALL

[Cory Lover]

As the sun sets over the numerous islands of ACville, the 8 strong, but somewhat fractured group, heads to tribal council. Some seem very confident in their vote, almost as if they know for sure what some people are….

One stays behind, too confused to make a choice. She sits under a coconut tree, thinking about life, and before she knows it, the fierce ACville Island winds knock a coconut off from the tree she is sitting under. It lands on her head…and the rest is history….

JM was a member of the Lazuli Alliance!



Some don’t look so pleased at what they think is coming, but most others seem happy. Each one casts their vote, and an almost unanimous decision has been made. They yank their victim off the benches of tribal council, then tie him up to a coconut husk raft and push him out to sea, never to be seen again. In a few years he will be nothing more then sea fungi….

Fungi was a member of the Emerald Alliance!

[Lady G]

It is posts like these that make me smile. Now what will the teams do, hit me or let me defend myself the next day. I would rather play with the cloud of suspicion over me than not.

We have three others claiming to have investigations. Atleast one is lying.

We also have Ice claiming that Rb could be innocent and used his investigation on Lady G.

I am pretty excited about night fall. I hope I survive the night.

Just a thought here...JL, do you think Ice and RB could be on a team?? I'm just trying to think what the advantage would be for them.

[Cory Lover]

GAME ON

Nightfall will either be tomorrow at 8CT, or on Wendnesday at 8CT. Should the next day be 24 or 48 hours?

[Lady G]

Sorry didn't mean to post during the nightfall:)

I always feel bad once I realize I have.

So awsome...one from each team was taken tonight!!!!

[Hooked Newbie]

Sweet... One of each and I'm pretty sure we have #2 from both teams identified positively. GC- which team are you on? I think that's the only data point we need.

[Lady G]

Sweet... One of each and I'm pretty sure we have #2 from both teams identified positively. GC- which team are you on? I think that's the only data point we need.

Well, IMO Grace and RB are the only two NOT to vote Fungi....but Ice says he got an investigation on Jpap and he is on the same team as Fungi, so IF Pap is on the same team, then only RB OR Grace could be... what I found most interesting was how Fungi posted that Jpap was in fact a mate with him mafia normally do not name there own, even when going down....does anyone feel Ice may NOT be telling the truth?

[IceH2O]

I vote to banish Jpap from the island

This vote will not change.



We're at 3 innocents 2 Emerald (soon to be 1) and 2 Laz.

Since LG said JM was Laz and it was pretty obvious at the time that there was a great chance she would UD I'm leaning that LG is in fact Laz.

Now do I believe Rb or HN...Honestly I don't know but at least I have a couple of more days to figure that out.

Jpap
GC
LG

my next 3 votes in order.

[IceH2O]

Well, IMO Grace and RB are the only two NOT to vote Fungi....but Ice says he got an investigation on Jpap and he is on the same team as Fungi, so IF Pap is on the same team, then only RB OR Grace could be... what I found most interesting was how Fungi posted that Jpap was in fact a mate with him mafia normally do not name there own, even when going down....does anyone feel Ice may NOT be telling the truth?

Nope I KNOW he is 100% innocent.

Don't worry LG, you have a few days to come up with wild conspiracy theories.

What you should be doing is trying to confuse us on if HN or Rb is the other innocent. The rest of you are pegged.

[IceH2O]

GAME ON

Nightfall will either be tomorrow at 8CT, or on Wendnesday at 8CT. Should the next day be 24 or 48 hours?

I'm good with either.

[Hooked Newbie]

I vote to banish Jpap from the island

This vote will not change.



We're at 3 innocents 2 Emerald (soon to be 1) and 2 Laz.

Since LG said JM was Laz and it was pretty obvious at the time that there was a great chance she would UD I'm leaning that LG is in fact Laz.

Now do I believe Rb or HN...Honestly I don't know but at least I have a couple of more days to figure that out.

Jpap
GC
LG

my next 3 votes in order.

As tough as it is for me to trust you... I vote to banish Jpappy. The only change I would make is to Lady G. For any SNL fans... Believe me now, trust me later.

[Hooked Newbie]

24 hour days are good with me.

[IceH2O]

Nope I KNOW he is 100% innocent.

Don't worry LG, you have a few days to come up with wild conspiracy theories.

What you should be doing is trying to confuse us on if HN or Rb is the other innocent. The rest of you are pegged.

I was answering LG on her question about me lying when I said 100% innocent.

Don't want it twisted.

[Lady G]

I vote to banish Jpap from the island

This vote will not change.



We're at 3 innocents 2 Emerald (soon to be 1) and 2 Laz.

Since LG said JM was Laz and it was pretty obvious at the time that there was a great chance she would UD I'm leaning that LG is in fact Laz.

Now do I believe Rb or HN...Honestly I don't know but at least I have a couple of more days to figure that out.

Jpap
GC
LG

my next 3 votes in order.

I did not know she was going to UD when I did the investigaton....as I said, I did not want to say anything until later, I really was going to wait until after nightfall I did not want to come out just yet, but felt backed in a corner...so yes, I realize it may look bad on my part but when you come out saying YOU thought RB was trying to say he investigated me...which btw, he still hasn't said HIMSELF, anyhow I got worried and said what I knew.

[Lady G]

Nope I KNOW he is 100% innocent.

Don't worry LG, you have a few days to come up with wild conspiracy theories.

What you should be doing is trying to confuse us on if HN or Rb is the other innocent. The rest of you are pegged.

No conspiracy theories here Ice...and forgive me if I do not believe you 100%

[Lady G]

BTW....24hrs are fine with me also

[Hooked Newbie]

I did not know she was going to UD when I did the investigaton....as I said, I did not want to say anything until later, I really was going to wait until after nightfall I did not want to come out just yet, but felt backed in a corner...so yes, I realize it may look bad on my part but when you come out saying YOU thought RB was trying to say he investigated me...which btw, he still hasn't said HIMSELF, anyhow I got worried and said what I knew.

So, you claim that you had an investigation & used it on JM?

Rb hasn't said it himself because he can't.

You were investigated and found to be Lazuli.

Is this clear enough?

[IceH2O]

I did not know she was going to UD when I did the investigaton....as I said, I did not want to say anything until later, I really was going to wait until after nightfall I did not want to come out just yet, but felt backed in a corner...so yes, I realize it may look bad on my part but when you come out saying YOU thought RB was trying to say he investigated me...which btw, he still hasn't said HIMSELF, anyhow I got worried and said what I knew.

You felt backed into a corner when you still had at least 2 days to convince us otherwise?

I never said I know Rb is telling the truth,I just posted thats what my thought was at the time. I'm pretty sure that one of them(HN or Rb) is an innocent just not which one.

But like I said I have at least 3 days to figure that out.

[Lady G]

Because he didn't get an investigation obviously...it was just a "thought" Ice had

[Lady G]

You felt backed into a corner when you still had at least 2 days to convince us otherwise?

I never said I know Rb is telling the truth,I just posted thats what my thought was at the time. I'm pretty sure that one of them(HN or Rb) is an innocent just not which one.

But like I said I have at least 3 days to figure that out.

No Ice what you said was you thought RB was trying to say he investigated me.....later yes, you said you didn't know who to believe him or Hooked.

[johnlarson66]

I really thought they had a hit tonight. I re-read it, the "after the first night" part must have slipped by.

Well I was right, and by the posts at the end by Fungi, I doubt we were in cohoots, but some will want to say we were.

I am more likely to believe that either Lady G or Hooked Newbie knew that judgemax was going to UD (she might had volunteer to, I do not think she was going to be able to play anyway). Either way she is gone.

Now Ice claimed jpappy was on Fungi's Alliance. I am not so sure, but am willing to follow him and find out. I just want to think about it a little bit. If I had to vote right now it would be for jpappy.

I also am very curious about GC. Seems like she has issues. Whatever is going on, she is doing her team more harm than good. Part of me really wants to vote for her.

If Lady G or Hooked Newbie are innocent, it really does not matter, they like me, have used their investigations. One of them (or even both) are mafia.

If LG and HN vote for GC then JL will most likely follow.

[Hooked Newbie]

So, you claim that you had an investigation & used it on JM?

Rb hasn't said it himself because he can't.

You were investigated and found to be Lazuli.

Is this clear enough?


Because he didn't get an investigation obviously...it was just a "thought" Ice had


You didn't answer the first question.

[Hooked Newbie]

I really thought they had a hit tonight. I re-read it, the "after the first night" part must have slipped by.

Well I was right, and by the posts at the end by Fungi, I doubt we were in cohoots, but some will want to say we were.

I am more likely to believe that either Lady G or Hooked Newbie knew that judgemax was going to UD (she might had volunteer to, I do not think she was going to be able to play anyway). Either way she is gone.

Now Ice claimed jpappy was on Fungi's Alliance. I am not so sure, but am willing to follow him and find out. I just want to think about it a little bit. If I had to vote right now it would be for jpappy.

I also am very curious about GC. Seems like she has issues. Whatever is going on, she is doing her team more harm than good. Part of me really wants to vote for her.

If Lady G or Hooked Newbie are innocent, it really does not matter, they like me, have used their investigations. One of them (or even both) are mafia.

If LG and HN vote for GC then JL will most likely follow.

Sorry, I'm happy with my vote. If Jpap turns out to be anything but Emerald, I will then vote Ice. If he proves to be Emerald, my next vote is on Lady G.

[Lady G]

You know Ice, I want to vote Pap and believe you...but I have a thought of my own, I'm thinking I may just go with RB, I'm pretty positive he is NOT innocent. Why not make it a good run for 2 players I am pretty sure are evil.

[Gracecat]

Wait.. WHAT???

Holy cow. I could have saved myself all of the blasted stress earlier. I thought nightfall was 8EST.

[johnlarson66]

Wait.. WHAT???

Holy cow. I could have saved myself all of the blasted stress earlier. I thought nightfall was 8EST.

GC, who else is on your team?

[Gracecat]

I'm still sticking to my first vote for now. I believe that either John or JPap were hanging one of their teammates out to dry.

I'm going to disagree with LG, I'm inclined to think Ice is innocent this time.

[Cory Lover]

Ok then, nightfall will be tomorrow at 8CT.

[johnlarson66]

I'm still sticking to my first vote for now. I believe that either John or JPap were hanging one of their teammates out to dry.

I'm going to disagree with LG, I'm inclined to think Ice is innocent this time.

I am sure that Ice appreciates your support.

[Lady G]

I'm still sticking to my first vote for now. I believe that either John or JPap were hanging one of their teammates out to dry.

I'm going to disagree with LG, I'm inclined to think Ice is innocent this time.

Really, I never said I didn't think he wasn't innocent...just throwing thoughts around and really just making my mind work a little to much on different ways things could of worked out.

[Hooked Newbie]

Ok then, nightfall will be tomorrow at 8CT.

That would be 8 CENTRAL, 9 EASTERN. Just to be clear. ;)

[Gracecat]

You didn't think he was 100%. Six one way, half a dozen another. Anything less than 100% in this game is doubt and doubt means you're inclined to believe a person is mafia.

[johnlarson66]

That would be 8 CENTRAL, 9 EASTERN. Just to be clear. ;)

Got that GC, no more driving thru town at 80 mph to vote, when you have an hour left.

[johnlarson66]

I hope GC gets a chance to be innocent soon, she is struggling with the whole evil thing.

If you want to follow Ice, then vote the same as Ice.

You could use your investigative powers and investigate someone. Yes, please do. Maybe you investigated Ice and he came back as innocent and that is why you trust him.

[Lady G]

Guys, I really have to get for now...we just got "rock band" and my girls are driving me crazy to come and play it.

I will have to say Grace is looking good for a lynch also....so I would be willing to vote her or RB if not Jpap. Or Jpap this night fall to see the outcome, then Grace or RB the next night..

[Gracecat]

You know why I believe Ice? I believe Ice because the roles were hand picked. Ice is "always evil" and he already said he was going to sit out this game but then decided to play in order to get a game going, he'll play but not heavily partipate.

If a person really doesn't have alot of time to play the game, but is doing it for his friends who did want a game started, then he's not going to be putting a great deal of thought into the game. He's going to call it straight. And if he's voted out, well... the game still continues and no skin off his nose because he wasn't originally going to play at all.

So, saying that.... I believe Ice this time because Ice isn't "after blood" or to win. He's just here to fill an empty space.

So it's either A, my opinion I just stated.
Or B, he's innocent as he says and is uttering complete BS to everybody without considering where it could go because he still isn't in the game.
Or C. He's a complete wild card because... once again, he doesn't want to be here.

Either way, I'm going with A. He is calling them as he gets them, without elaboration because it demands as little participation as possible. So I'm following the Ice train. Sorry.

[Gracecat]

I say "isn't in the game" or "doesn't want to be here"... I should have clarified it a bit better... I don't mean to insinuate his arm is being twisted. Or he's crabby about playing.

I should have used a bit better terminology there. But I really think because Ice first said he wasn't going to play but later recanted in order to get a game going, he's really not "into" it like the addicts losing sleep or driving 80 to get home. And I think that leads to a lack of time spent analyzing and agonizing their posts.

[johnlarson66]

GC, are you going to use your power of investigation or save it for another day?

If you did investigate Ice, as said you might, then please tell us your findings.

Ice has claimed to investigated jpappy (found to be emerald)and I think he is willing to stand behind that.

jpappy has made no attempt to claim he is innocent or has given us an investigation. My biggest issue with jpappy is the last few posts by Fungi.

HN has claimed to investigated Lady G (found to be luliu (blue!))and I think he is willing to stand behind that claim.

Both these can be proved or disproved by banishing who they claim to be mafia.

Lady G has claimed to investigate JM, who died of a UD. At one point, I thought HN was making the same claim, but I misunderstood what he was saying. It was convient for Lady G to lose JM to a UD to say th eleast. We can not disprove Lady G's investigation at this point.

HN has decided to follow Ice on voting for jpapy. Since it is assumed that there are 2 left on each team, I do not see how these two are working together.

Ice came out after me and before HN, so I will follow him first, then follow HN next.

I vote to banish jpappy from the island

GC, I hope you follow Ice also and vote for jpappy. You will be very high on every list out there if you miss again, plus you think jpappy and I are teamates. So voting for jpappy is as good as voting for me.

[johnlarson66]

I challenage GC and LG to vote for jpappy.

I don't think they both will, one might.

It will be interesting, they both have jpappy high up as a suspect.

Get your votes in and lets see if Ice is telling the truth or not.

The good thing is, that if jpappy is found to be emerald, there is still a chance that I could be emerald also and that I killed off both of my teamates so I could win. Fungi did say I was on his team. I am sure Ice will have issues with trusting me as well as HN.

It is an awesome plan. First lets see if Ice is telling the truth or not.

Enough for now, I will be super busy tomorrow, so I will not have a bunch of posts like this. I doubt if I will change my vote of have anything to add, but I will be on before nightfall.

[johnlarson66]

of = or

[Lady G]

Well, John took a break for a moment (can only sing Bloom so many times, which has proven to be my oldest daughters favorite so far and the best score I have got so far is a 89% LOL!!!

Anyway, I will take you up on that I vote to banish Jpap from the Island but I must say my next vote is most likely going to land on RB or Grace.

Now, I must go back and try to conveince her to do a different song...Nervana (SPELLING?) is NOT my strong point!!!

[Gracecat]

Well John, personally I think LG was counting on JM to UD as it appears she might. So I'm not convinced that was a realistic investigation at all. I agree, you have a valid point there.

I'm not so sure taking your challenge is smart. So I'm going to hold off on my vote until I see what unfolds tomorrow. But right now it's going to be between the J's.

On the other hand, I see John challenging me to vote with Ice, but... I've already given the reason why I am listening to Ice, up until now. So your challenge John is just encouraging me to follow through my logic or looking a slip where I may not believe what I'm posting.. In this case, up until the moment I may have changed Ice's game play by suggesting how he is playing, I feel he's fully trustworthy.

Anyway, for all I know Ice could come through and give a whole line of bunk just because I said I believe he's playing it straight this game.


The way I see it, if Jpap is voted off and he's not Emerald then you most assuredly are and one of you hung Fungi out to dry. So either way, my theory will pass or fail at tomorrow's coconut.

Rb is being too quiet. So quiet he's a hair's breath from being UD. I find that suspicious. I'm interested in hearing what he has to say before I follow through with my vote.

[Lady G]

Well John, personally I think LG was counting on JM to UD as it appears she might. So I'm not convinced that was a realistic investigation at all. I agree, you have a valid point there.

I'm not so sure taking your challenge is smart. So I'm going to hold off on my vote until I see what unfolds tomorrow. But right now it's going to be between the J's.

On the other hand, I see John challenging me to vote with Ice, but... I've already given the reason why I am listening to Ice, up until now. So your challenge John is just encouraging me to follow through my logic or looking a slip where I may not believe what I'm posting.. In this case, up until the moment I may have changed Ice's game play by suggesting how he is playing, I feel he's fully trustworthy.

Anyway, for all I know Ice could come through and give a whole line of bunk just because I said I believe he's playing it straight this game.


The way I see it, if Jpap is voted off and he's not Emerald then you most assuredly are and one of you hung Fungi out to dry. So either way, my theory will pass or fail at tomorrow's coconut.

Rb is being too quiet. So quiet he's a hair's breath from being UD. I find that suspicious. I'm interested in hearing what he has to say before I follow through with my vote.

I completly understand ppl questioning what I say, especially because she DID UD, but I can assure you I did not know she was going to, of coarse now that she did I am glad I said something because had I waited well...no-one would believe me at all (not that they do now, cause I do believe most do not)..but anyhow for what it is worth I did not know in advance she was going to UD, I can see though how it may look that way.

Personally I see no reason not to go with Jpap, IF he comes up innocent Ice will be next and he knows that...just seems to much of a chance even for Ice to take.

What I'm not sure of is...you said if Jpap is NOT emerald then John is?? Is that what you were saying, if so why would you think that...Ice is the one who said he was wouldn't that make ICE look to be the bad one? Just not sure I understand what you are saying, or are you saying they BOTH are if Jpap isn't?

About the coconut...isn't that what the evils have? Are you admitting you will be using a coconut tomorrow night Grace and it will be on one of he two?? Maybe all the dramatics that took place for you at nightfall, still has you a little confused, so I will wait for your answer on that.

I do have to agree with you on RB though.

[Gracecat]

I thought we were all hit with coconuts instead of killed...

But we're banished. *shakes head* It was after midnight. I was fuzzy. I meant banished, leave, out of the game. But I'm sure everybody is going to pounce on it regardless.

Either way though, I was just being silly with words. I had forgotten how seriously they were taken in this game.




Funny thing is though, I'm tired.

[Lady G]

Well, I will be gone today to work...just wanted to pop in and see if anything had happend before I left.

Rb still hasn't really said much of anything, you sure are being quiet this game.

I am comfortable with my vote and it will remain. I will be back after work.

[johnlarson66]

Well John, personally I think LG was counting on JM to UD as it appears she might. So I'm not convinced that was a realistic investigation at all. I agree, you have a valid point there.

I'm not so sure taking your challenge is smart. So I'm going to hold off on my vote until I see what unfolds tomorrow. But right now it's going to be between the J's.

On the other hand, I see John challenging me to vote with Ice, but... I've already given the reason why I am listening to Ice, up until now. So your challenge John is just encouraging me to follow through my logic or looking a slip where I may not believe what I'm posting.. In this case, up until the moment I may have changed Ice's game play by suggesting how he is playing, I feel he's fully trustworthy.

Anyway, for all I know Ice could come through and give a whole line of bunk just because I said I believe he's playing it straight this game.


The way I see it, if Jpap is voted off and he's not Emerald then you most assuredly are and one of you hung Fungi out to dry. So either way, my theory will pass or fail at tomorrow's coconut.

Rb is being too quiet. So quiet he's a hair's breath from being UD. I find that suspicious. I'm interested in hearing what he has to say before I follow through with my vote.

GC, I am fairly sure when I say that if jpappy is not Emerald, it will fall on Ice and not me. Ice has claimed that he investigated jpappy. The theory that I banished one of my own teamates, just might let me stay in the game longer, so I see your point, but it has nothing to do with weather jpappy is innocent or not.

If jpappy does come back Emerald, then Ice is somewhat cleared, he could beo doing the same thing I am being charged with, but for the most part he would be considered innocent.

Now if you do not vote jpappy, but you say he is a suspect, but vote for anyone else, then you will be a suspect.

With Lady G and Hooked Newbie both claiming to be innocent (which you have made no claim), it might be better to go after a better suspect, which would be you.

I highly suggest following Ice, who you are sure is innocent ad vote for jpappy, any other vote means you must be mafia.

[Cory Lover]

Nightfall is in about 9.5 hours...

Vote count:

4 jpappy: Ice, HN, jl, LG

No votes from: rb, jpappy, or grace.

If any alliance would like to use their coconut hit tonight, please send it in at least 30 minutes before nightfall.

Matt

[Cory Lover]

That would be 8 CENTRAL, 9 EASTERN. Just to be clear. ;)

7MT, and 6PT lol

[Gracecat]

RB is being too quiet. Jpap didn't say much either yesterday.

Are we going to have a couple UD's? At the moment, I am going to stay on the train. If Jpap looks like he's going to UD, I'll swing my vote.

I'm still fuzzy on the idea of wasted votes and if you want to use one on a possible UD or not.

At any rate, I agree with John. I'm pushing hard to believe one of the J's is emerald with Fungi. He's been entirely too confident, I tend to believe what I see on the surface. Not a very smart move in this game but I'm going to go with it. I'm also beginning to doubt Ice. He's too quiet as well. It may be that he set up his position with very few key posts and I'm only assuming he's innocent because "he's always evil". Cory could have used that either way, by letting him play innocent for once or continuing the tradition expecting someone to say No way, Ice can't be evil again.

John you're too adamament. If I had to pick one innocent player at this point, I'm equally split between you and Ice.

None the less, I'm exhausted. The spouse is off on a business trip and I don't sleep well when he's gone. I'm not up to a great deal of rambling today. So why not, I'll jump the train. JL part of me thinks you're absolutely innocent but.... a little bit of me still wants to say you're part of alliance. I'm going to say I'm glad I didn't use an investigation the first day because this second day, I'm very very interested in where you stand.

I vote to banish Jpap from the island.

[Gracecat]

Cute panda's btw ;)

8PM Central standard time.... in less than nine hours. Got it!

[jpappy789]

Holy Hell.... That's a trip. And an addiction. I drove 80 through town to get home before I UD.

Now... I was going to vote for JP (I typed JB). But then decided no, I was mistaken on which post I was thinking of, and I wanted to vote for JL.

Then someone said JB???? And I'm freaking, because... I'm in town.. and then when I voted JL, my stupid iphone has an auto-correct spelling doodad and it turned into "I'm"...

SO! If the rest of the group hasn't decided I've UD'd myself from that stupid cluster of votes, I vote to banish JL from the island.

Now I'm going to drive back to Wal mart at a reasonable rate of speed to buy that danged toilet paper I forgot.

Nice. Vote for the only person that people tend to trust.


Now... since that's done. And I don't have to worry about UD'ing.. I'll explain why.

Fungi is, as most strongly believe including myself, to be Emerald, if not alliance. That's positive.

But the pitter patter between JP and JL lead me to believe that they are either A) lying and hoping to vote an innocent, or they're teammates and the team decided to hang one of their own in order to win town confidence and trust. So my first vote would be to the person who started this whole "who would investigate who" and the one that actually did use their investigation on the first day and posted about it.

*glances at the time*
And I'm still under the wire!!! FTW wooo hooo ;)



And without a speeding ticket. ;)

Well JL and I are on the same team. We are both innocents.


So you are "outting" Pap as one of your mates for sure then eh?? Hmmm, very interesting and at the same time you are lumping JL in with you too...but saying you think he is innocent?


Well, IMO Grace and RB are the only two NOT to vote Fungi....but Ice says he got an investigation on Jpap and he is on the same team as Fungi, so IF Pap is on the same team, then only RB OR Grace could be... what I found most interesting was how Fungi posted that Jpap was in fact a mate with him mafia normally do not name there own, even when going down....does anyone feel Ice may NOT be telling the truth?

Obviously Fungi is just trying to bring me and JL down with him. I believe that after Ice came out with his fake investigation Fungi sought to throw some confusion out there and try to convince people to get rid of me so at least his short-lived experience in this game was for naught.


So, you claim that you had an investigation & used it on JM?

Rb hasn't said it himself because he can't.

You were investigated and found to be Lazuli.

Is this clear enough?

Funny Hn. I recently nvestigated you and found you to be Lazuli. So this leaves the question...did you try to out a team mate or did you just guess?


You know why I believe Ice? I believe Ice because the roles were hand picked. Ice is "always evil" and he already said he was going to sit out this game but then decided to play in order to get a game going, he'll play but not heavily partipate.

If a person really doesn't have alot of time to play the game, but is doing it for his friends who did want a game started, then he's not going to be putting a great deal of thought into the game. He's going to call it straight. And if he's voted out, well... the game still continues and no skin off his nose because he wasn't originally going to play at all.

So, saying that.... I believe Ice this time because Ice isn't "after blood" or to win. He's just here to fill an empty space.

So it's either A, my opinion I just stated.
Or B, he's innocent as he says and is uttering complete BS to everybody without considering where it could go because he still isn't in the game.
Or C. He's a complete wild card because... once again, he doesn't want to be here.

Either way, I'm going with A. He is calling them as he gets them, without elaboration because it demands as little participation as possible. So I'm following the Ice train. Sorry.

That is the lamest defense for Ice I have ever seen. But I dont think you are on the same team, it would be too obvious. Plus, Ice wouldnt allow you to play this way after falsely accusing someone...your team would go down 1-2-3. However, you latching on to Ice would buy you some time because he would have to go first and you are really under fire. I think you are just desperate.


RB is being too quiet. Jpap didn't say much either yesterday.

Are we going to have a couple UD's? At the moment, I am going to stay on the train. If Jpap looks like he's going to UD, I'll swing my vote.

I'm still fuzzy on the idea of wasted votes and if you want to use one on a possible UD or not.

At any rate, I agree with John. I'm pushing hard to believe one of the J's is emerald with Fungi. He's been entirely too confident, I tend to believe what I see on the surface. Not a very smart move in this game but I'm going to go with it. I'm also beginning to doubt Ice. He's too quiet as well. It may be that he set up his position with very few key posts and I'm only assuming he's innocent because "he's always evil". Cory could have used that either way, by letting him play innocent for once or continuing the tradition expecting someone to say No way, Ice can't be evil again.

John you're too adamament. If I had to pick one innocent player at this point, I'm equally split between you and Ice.

None the less, I'm exhausted. The spouse is off on a business trip and I don't sleep well when he's gone. I'm not up to a great deal of rambling today. So why not, I'll jump the train. JL part of me thinks you're absolutely innocent but.... a little bit of me still wants to say you're part of alliance. I'm going to say I'm glad I didn't use an investigation the first day because this second day, I'm very very interested in where you stand.

I vote to banish Jpap from the island.

Wow, took you long enough to join the train.

This is where I stand now with my new info...

Emerald:

Fungi- DEAD
Ice
Lg

Lazuli:

Jmax- DEAD
HN
Ice

I am 100% certain that both Ice and Hn are on teams and I believe that they are on the same one. But I like the OMGUS vote better...I havent done one yet...

I vote to banish Ice:silly::silly::silly:

[jpappy789]

Just realized Ice is on there twice...first on is supposed to be Grace instead

[johnlarson66]

jpappy, why don't you investigate someone and tell us the results.

Ice has claimed to have investigated you.

Also, you think RB is innocent?

[Hooked Newbie]

Funny Hn. I recently nvestigated you and found you to be Lazuli. So this leaves the question...did you try to out a team mate or did you just guess?

Um, why would it be a guess if she was my team mate? I'd know who's on my team if I were on one. :wall: It took you nearly 24 hours to claim you had an investigation? Why wouldn't you post the info for others as quickly as possible? The only communication we have is here in thread. If you turn out innocent, Ice will be next to die and I think he understands that and is on the up and up. We'll find out for sure tonight.

Emerald:

Fungi- DEAD
Ice
Lg

Lazuli:

Jmax- DEAD
HN
Ice

I am 100% certain that both Ice and Hn are on teams and I believe that they are on the same one. But I like the OMGUS vote better...I havent done one yet...

I vote to banish Ice:silly::silly::silly:

I think Ice and I are on the same team too, just not the kind you're talking about.

[Cory Lover]

Nightfall is in about 3.5 hours...

Vote count:

5 jpappy: Ice, HN, jl, LG, grace

1 Ice: jpappy

No votes from: rb and grace.

If any alliance would like to use their coconut hit tonight, please send it in at least 30 minutes before nightfall.

Matt

[Gracecat]

Cory, I did vote ;)

[Gracecat]

RB is being too quiet. Jpap didn't say much either yesterday.

Are we going to have a couple UD's? At the moment, I am going to stay on the train. If Jpap looks like he's going to UD, I'll swing my vote.

I'm still fuzzy on the idea of wasted votes and if you want to use one on a possible UD or not.

At any rate, I agree with John. I'm pushing hard to believe one of the J's is emerald with Fungi. He's been entirely too confident, I tend to believe what I see on the surface. Not a very smart move in this game but I'm going to go with it. I'm also beginning to doubt Ice. He's too quiet as well. It may be that he set up his position with very few key posts and I'm only assuming he's innocent because "he's always evil". Cory could have used that either way, by letting him play innocent for once or continuing the tradition expecting someone to say No way, Ice can't be evil again.

John you're too adamament. If I had to pick one innocent player at this point, I'm equally split between you and Ice.

None the less, I'm exhausted. The spouse is off on a business trip and I don't sleep well when he's gone. I'm not up to a great deal of rambling today. So why not, I'll jump the train. JL part of me thinks you're absolutely innocent but.... a little bit of me still wants to say you're part of alliance. I'm going to say I'm glad I didn't use an investigation the first day because this second day, I'm very very interested in where you stand.

I vote to banish Jpap from the island.



Post #215

[Gracecat]

At my mothers for the evening, I may not get back on.

Jpap it didnt take me long enough to jump on any train really. I was one of the first to say you and John were either allied, or one was a member of the Emerald Alliance.

I stand by my vote. Tonight I will vote to banish Jpap (just in case you missed it Cory :p:). And tomorrow if RB doesn't UD, I'm voting to banish John.

[jpappy789]

jpappy, why don't you investigate someone and tell us the results.

Ice has claimed to have investigated you.

Also, you think RB is innocent?

Look above. I know Ice "investigated" me.

RB is iffy with the LG vote but I think it was an investigation and he got Lg pegged without trying to be too obvious...not sure why he didnt just say it but thats what Im thinkin.


I think Ice and I are on the same team too, just not the kind you're talking about.

I understand what you mean but what I meant is that you just threw a name out there. I know that either way she would have to be on the same team as you because I KNOW that you are Lazuli. I think Lg is emerald and you were trying to get the island to get at your opposing team.

[Cory Lover]

Oops, sorry grace.

[Gracecat]

No problem Cory ;)

[Rbishop]

Hmmm...interesting day....if I vote jpappy, that will put 2 known innocents on jpappy...myself and Ice....

[jpappy789]

At my mothers for the evening, I may not get back on.

Jpap it didnt take me long enough to jump on any train really. I was one of the first to say you and John were either allied, or one was a member of the Emerald Alliance.

I stand by my vote. Tonight I will vote to banish Jpap (just in case you missed it Cory :p:). And tomorrow if RB doesn't UD, I'm voting to banish John.

Saying somethingand commiting to it with a vote are two VERY different things Grace. We have seen loadds of scum claim certina things or throw ideas out there to get people to grasp to them or just to blend in and not try to disagree. You only voted because of pressure. A very scummy thing to do. You are on the emerald team IMO.

And possibly voting John? You muct be scared of him because I am pretty
sure most people think him innocent. He wasnt lucky with Fungi IMO. Why not just hit him with your coconut? Or are you afraid it will fail and he will help lead the charge on you next???

[jpappy789]

Hmmm...interesting day....if I vote jpappy, that will put 2 known innocents on jpappy...myself and Ice....

You dont trust JL either? And you are far from known innocent...did you investigate LG? Seems like a lot of people are questioning that but you didnt feel a reason to answer that...

[Gracecat]

I disagree.. Pressure would have been after John road me so hard yesterday when I voted him.

I'm leaning to believe you are emerald. Heck you may be lazuli and you're throwing a new team member after seeing how well it worked for John tossing Fungi.

:p: Btw is Eagan anywhere close to Henderson and Belle Plain area? I visited up there, it was a gorgeous place.

[Hooked Newbie]

Look above. I know Ice "investigated" me.

RB is iffy with the LG vote but I think it was an investigation and he got Lg pegged without trying to be too obvious...not sure why he didnt just say it but thats what Im thinkin.



I understand what you mean but what I meant is that you just threw a name out there. I know that either way she would have to be on the same team as you because I KNOW that you are Lazuli. I think Lg is emerald and you were trying to get the island to get at your opposing team.

Don't look now, but you are channeling LG. lol

Your "theory" is that I chose to lie AND throw out a team mate's name? I initially voted for you somewhat out of faith, but I'm feeling even better about Ice telling the truth the more you post.

[Rbishop]

You dont trust JL either? And you are far from known innocent...did you investigate LG? Seems like a lot of people are questioning that but you didnt feel a reason to answer that...

Nope, didn't investigate Lady G....just a process of elimination and looking at her posting style, in fact...

I vote to banish Lady G from the island...

[IceH2O]

I think Jpap and Grace are drinking from the same water source.

We know Fungi was Emerald. We know Jpap is Emerald.

I wish I knew who to believe but I really do think LG on a team and not the other innocent.. The question is what is HN and RB.RB voted LG, is that distancing or his way to say he investigated her without actually saying it and making a target of himself. Though at this time I don't see why anyone thinks they need to hide, they only have 2 hits and 3 people.

RB is LG Laz or Emerald? Thats the only thing thats going to clear you. When LG is banished and shows as Laz I'll have to believe HN since he brought it up. You didn't claim a team she was on and that makes it harder to trust you

I'm betting both teams use their hits tonight. We can only ask the island gods to be on our side and miss both times or have them both hit the same player.

[Cory Lover]

Nightfall is in less then 3 hours...

Vote count:

5 jpappy: Ice, HN, jl, LG, grace

1 Ice: jpappy

1 LG: rb

If any alliance would like to use their coconut hit tonight, please send it in at least 30 minutes before nightfall.

Matt

[Rbishop]

Hmmm...interesting day....if I vote jpappy, that will put 2 known innocents on jpappy...myself and Ice....

That should tell you...

[jpappy789]

I disagree.. Pressure would have been after John road me so hard yesterday when I voted him.

I'm leaning to believe you are emerald. Heck you may be lazuli and you're throwing a new team member after seeing how well it worked for John tossing Fungi.

:p: Btw is Eagan anywhere close to Henderson and Belle Plain area? I visited up there, it was a gorgeous place.

So after everyone was questioning you so much you just said "what the heck, I'll vote for jpap?"...I dont believe you. You were looking bad enough and decided to just go with the flow.


Don't look now, but you are channeling LG. lol

Your "theory" is that I chose to lie AND throw out a team mate's name? I initially voted for you somewhat out of faith, but I'm feeling even better about Ice telling the truth the more you post.

Its not a theory anymore. But I know that you are not innocent.



That should tell you...

well supossedly Ice is innocent but I dont beleive you. Because I know ice is wrong I now know that you are wrong. I put you in place of Lg then as she was really only as a process of elimination and I thought maybe you were hinting at her being investigated by you.

[Rbishop]

well, jpap...your full of crap then...Ice and I are the only 2 known innocents, known to him and me...period.....the rest of you are just making arguements to save your butts.

[jpappy789]

well I think you are just hoping that Ice is right about me

If I am scum: Ice is right and youre investigation still doenst mean anything. My guess is that you are trying to latch on to him. Ice would be "proven" innocent ensuring that you are. However, remember that Ice could also have been on my team.

I am am innocent: You are most deifintely scum along with Ice.


Thats what I got. Take it or leave it.

[Rbishop]

well, jpap, you got it wrong on two of us...

[Hooked Newbie]

well, jpap...your full of crap then...Ice and I are the only 2 known innocents, known to him and me...period.....the rest of you are just making arguements to save your butts.

So Ice... do tell, how exactly do you know Rb is innocent?

[Rbishop]

Heck, Hn, I don't see hi argueing he isn't innocent...:grinyes:

[IceH2O]

So Ice... do tell, how exactly do you know Rb is innocent?

I don't know RB is innocent. I don't know you are innocent. I don't know JL is innocent. I only do know that Jpap is Emerald and that JL pointed Fungi out as Emerald. I assume JL is innocent because its because of him that I did investigate Jpap and I don't think if JL was Emerald that he would put both his team mates out there like that.

When I read RBs post,that you quoted, I had a different understanding of it then you did. I just don't know if I believe it or not at this point.

[jpappy789]

Lalalala...less than one hour to banishment.

[jpappy789]

oops. I must be confused. less that 2 hours :D

[Lady G]

Look above. I know Ice "investigated" me.

RB is iffy with the LG vote but I think it was an investigation and he got Lg pegged without trying to be too obvious...not sure why he didnt just say it but thats what Im thinkin.

I understand what you mean but what I meant is that you just threw a name out there. I know that either way she would have to be on the same team as you because I KNOW that you are Lazuli. I think Lg is emerald and you were trying to get the island to get at your opposing team.
RB didn't say it because he DIDN'T get the investigation...Duh? But I think you know that because I do believe you to be on the same team.

LOL so you are saying that we are on the same team...but you also think we are on opposing team??? Which is it Pap??? You say you KNOW he is Lazuli and we are on the same team in the first, then turn around and say (in the same paragraph) that you think I am EMERALD and he was trying to get the island to get his opposing team....so do you think I am same or opposite teams as him???


Hmmm...interesting day....if I vote jpappy, that will put 2 known innocents on jpappy...myself and Ice....
So how exactly are you a KNOWN innocent Bob? Also added a "fake" vote for Pap......funny.....


Nope, didn't investigate Lady G....just a process of elimination and looking at her posting style, in fact...

I vote to banish Lady G from the island...


That should tell you...
LOL, you didn't investigate me...but your vote should tell...hmmmm????


well, jpap...your full of crap then...Ice and I are the only 2 known innocents, known to him and me...period.....the rest of you are just making arguements to save your butts.
Again...how are you KNOWN innocent??? LOL, I think you are trying to save your own butt here Bob!!


Heck, Hn, I don't see hi argueing he isn't innocent...:grinyes:

Who is hi???

[johnlarson66]

well, jpap...your full of crap then...Ice and I are the only 2 known innocents, known to him and me...period.....the rest of you are just making arguements to save your butts.

rbishop, how are you and Ice known innocents to each other. Also, how I am not considered an innocent, but Ice is.

I am guessing that maybe you used your investigation on Ice and found him innocent, but how would Ice know that. Ice has clearly stated that he investigated jpappy, so he could not "know" if rbishop is for sure innocent.

Tomorrow will be an interesting day.

[johnlarson66]

Heck, Hn, I don't see hi argueing he isn't innocent...:grinyes:

I think he meant him not hi.

Notice the Emerald Green smile?

[jpappy789]

RB didn't say it because he DIDN'T get the investigation...Duh? But I think you know that because I do believe you to be on the same team.

LOL so you are saying that we are on the same team...but you also think we are on opposing team??? Which is it Pap??? You say you KNOW he is Lazuli and we are on the same team in the first, then turn around and say (in the same paragraph) that you think I am EMERALD and he was trying to get the island to get his opposing team....so do you think I am same or opposite teams as him???


So how exactly are you a KNOWN innocent Bob? Also added a "fake" vote for Pap......funny.....




LOL, you didn't investigate me...but your vote should tell...hmmmm????


Again...how are you KNOWN innocent??? LOL, I think you are trying to save your own butt here Bob!!



Who is hi???

I never said you and Hn are on the same team. I asked him if you were, hence the line "did you try to out a team mate?"

[Hooked Newbie]

I never said you and Hn are on the same team. I asked him if you were, hence the line "did you try to out a team mate?"

I know for sure that you and LG are on opposite teams (only caveat being Ice telling the truth). We'll see shortly.