Giving up on cories... need suggestions

zanytomato

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So, another mysterious cory death (see a portion of the continuing saga here: http://www.aquariacentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=142061
), and I'm pretty much ready to give up on cories. Obviously I can't keep them, and I'm completely at a loss as to why. My levels continue to be fine (0/0/5 or less), pH stable at 7.2... no changes whatsoever, no odd behaviour, nothing.. just every couple months another dead cory or two. Most times it's exactly the same... seem perfectly fine the day before, then I find them dead (such was the case this time). Other times they've gone pale first, and once, one had spots (not ich) on him. My panda cory has outlived everyone (I got him, and his no-longer-around friends, in August... haven't been able to find panda cories since unfortunately, hence this guy's loner status), but I've lost peppered, albino, bronze, sterbai, and panda cories. Of the two remaining bronze, one has been in there since about January, as I recall, and the other since October (the one who I found dead today was there since October, too). I keep trying to keep them in a decent size group, but they keep dying. I've tried stock from two different locations (each across town from the other).

Anyway, I don't want to replace the cories... I'm a huge cory fan, but I'm worried that they're suffering, or something, and I'm just at wit's end. All the rest of my fish seem to be fluorishing. The funny thing is, the cories seem to be too, till they show up dead... :headshake2: I've had problems keeping plecos in the past, too, though for two of the plecos there had been a corresponding change in the ph (none of which correspond to the losses of any cories, btw), while the third died before I'd even had him 24 hours, so the store just replaced him right away. I've since resolved my ph problems and have a wonderfully steady ph and water at a healthy hardness (around 4... can't remember what the measure is, but it's in the range of what is deemed healthy for most freshwater fish). Otherwise since I started my tank back at the beginning of June last year I've lost no fish (I even did a fishy cycle, not knowing any better at the time).

So now I'm left with a question of whether I should add anything to my tank in the cories' (increasing) absence; whether I should just wait and see how these guys fair (the remaining cories); whether I should give the remaining bronze cories to my stepdad whose tank we've been working on together at his place and presently has bronze cories with no problems (though his tank is newer and he's not had his current stock long); or... suggestions?

Harumph. Now I'm just bummed out.
 
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While I can't imagine a community tank without cories, I guess kuhlies would be a reasonable substitute.

It's very odd that you can't seem to keep cories alive. I find them to be quite hardy. :huh:
 
I am wondering if you are buying them old? I am so sorry yours do not do well, do you always buy them in 5' s mine are doing wonderful and get this, I think one was doing a mating dance today and tonight. he keeps dancing around 2 others like crazy. I did a tank clean today and they all came out running and playing the rest of the day. they must love water changes LOL!
 
I have had cories too last week one died not sure why. I replaced him and got two that I thought was a true Juli but was told it is a false Juli. The fish is adorable true you could be getting older cories if they keep dieing. Have you tried different LFS? Loaches might be a good choice. Also do you feed them at night they suggest you do when you turn your hood lights out. I drop a couple sinkable pellets in every night and in the morning my fish get a variety of different foods on different days. Sorry about your losses mine love wc's too they come out and play afterwards.
 
While I can't imagine a community tank without cories, I guess kuhlies would be a reasonable substitute.

Me either... sigh. They're just the life of the party. Kuhlies are a thought.... I think they may be too big for my tank, though I think there are smaller options.

It's very odd that you can't seem to keep cories alive. I find them to be quite hardy. :huh:

Yeah... that's what I keep hearing, too.

I am wondering if you are buying them old? I am so sorry yours do not do well, do you always buy them in 5' s mine are doing wonderful and get this, I think one was doing a mating dance today and tonight. he keeps dancing around 2 others like crazy. I did a tank clean today and they all came out running and playing the rest of the day. they must love water changes LOL!

I suppose it would be hard to say if some of them I have bought were old, but I know for certain that the last ones I bought over the holidays were babies (I only picked up two, just to bring my numbers back up)-- only one of which is still with me.

Mine have been doing the mating dance, too.. which really led me be to believe they were healthy.

They really are the life of the party! Mine adore water changes, too....

what are you feeding them ??

I feed them TetraMin tablets, and Algae wafers; the rest of my fish get TetraColor tropical granules regularly and freeze-dried blood worms, free-dried river shrimp, or spirulina and brine shrimp (a frozen mix) as a treat... these days that's about once a week, sometimes a little more.

Tetramin tabs: 43% protein, 5% fat, 1.5% fiber
Algae wafers: 32% protein, fat 4%, fiber 5%
 
I have had cories too last week one died not sure why. I replaced him and got two that I thought was a true Juli but was told it is a false Juli. The fish is adorable true you could be getting older cories if they keep dieing. Have you tried different LFS? Loaches might be a good choice. Also do you feed them at night they suggest you do when you turn your hood lights out. I drop a couple sinkable pellets in every night and in the morning my fish get a variety of different foods on different days. Sorry about your losses mine love wc's too they come out and play afterwards.

I've tried two different LFS... the two remaining bronze I have are one from each of the stores, heh. My feeding routine is to feed in the evening, but to first put the regular food in for the other guys to distract them, and then drop in the tablets or wafers. The cories seem to go nuts for them, though I wonder sometimes if they get enough off of them, or if they need to wait for them to dissolve more? After my angel fish eats everything at the top, he invariable swims down and nicks the tablet. Maybe I should try feeding the others, then dropping the tablet down at lights off....
 
I'm realise I'm probably stating the obvious here, but how frequently and how assiduously do you do gravel vacs, and how deep is your gravel? As your nitrates are way lower than mine your standard water quality will be better (I have to do 40% changes every 5 days just to keep nitrates <50), but I'm just wondering if anaerobic bacteria could be building up in the gravel and that could be what's killing bottom-dwellers instead of other fish. The gravel in my tanks is 1" at the most, much less than that in some of my other tanks.
 
I'm realise I'm probably stating the obvious here, but how frequently and how assiduously do you do gravel vacs, and how deep is your gravel? As your nitrates are way lower than mine your standard water quality will be better (I have to do 40% changes every 5 days just to keep nitrates <50), but I'm just wondering if anaerobic bacteria could be building up in the gravel and that could be what's killing bottom-dwellers instead of other fish. The gravel in my tanks is 1" at the most, much less than that in some of my other tanks.

Hey Carp... nah, it's always a good question. Here's my situation: I've got about an inch, inch and a half of gravel (I've got it pushed up a bit higher in places where some plants, cuttings mostly, have a tendency to uproot), which I vacuum very thoroughly every week. My general pattern of vacuuming is to hit the open places, then shift things around a bit to get at the edges of the driftwood and the stones. I'll even uproot a plant if it seems to have a lot of junk underneath. I try to stick the vac in to the bottom and shift it around a bit for fear of the anaerobic pockets. If it seems dirtier than normal, I'll take out about 40-50% of the water, but otherwise I change 25-30% every week. My tank is fairly heavily planted, which seems to keep the nitrates well in control, but I know that they can't clean up all of the detritus.

I could certainly bump up the frequency of my vacs & water changes, and see if that helps.
 
It seems like you're doing everything right- I can't explain it. With such low nitrates and thorough vacuuming of the tank there's no reason why bottom-dwellers should be dying and not other fish... but if it keeps happening it suggests something's amiss at the bottom of the tank. Corydoras are not as hardy as some people would have you believe, but I've always found them to be more robust than tetras.
 
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