male or female?

[Marxman187]

what do you think and why?

http://i251.photobucket.com/albums/g...ipper1week.jpg (http://i251.photobucket.com/albums/gg303/Marxman420/JacktheRipper1week.jpg)
http://i251.photobucket.com/albums/g...pper2weeks.jpg



thanks in advance

[crazycanuck]

im gonna say male because of the pointy tail extension,cant really tell in the pic ... lol hope this helps

[davidtcb1]

Really hard to tell from that pic. Could be a male given the decent coloration.

[Marxman187]

im gonna say male because of the pointy tail extension,cant really tell in the pic ... lol hope this helps


anything helps thanks alot guys

i know the pics are horrible but believe it or not they are the best i could get outta about a hundred lol he is always moving to fast

[Fishfiles1]

thats a male jack demspy, just look at the extended fins and the colorfull nis if the body

[Marxman187]

can you guys even look at the second pic because im having trouble with the link. just let me know

[crazycanuck]

no it takes me to the photo bucket homepage lol

[Marxman187]

<img src="http://i251.photobucket.com/albums/gg303/Marxman420/JacktheRipper2weeks.jpg">
there you might have already seen this one but if it didnt work here it is

[crazycanuck]

still doesnt work man LOL now its a bunch of computer junk,you cant click it LOL

[Marxman187]

still doesnt work man LOL now its a bunch of computer junk,you cant click it LOL


how bout now?

http://i251.photobucket.com/albums/g...pper2weeks.jpg (http://i251.photobucket.com/albums/gg303/Marxman420/JacktheRipper2weeks.jpg)

[crazycanuck]

yup you got 'er now lol yea its a male... are you going to try to breed him??

[Marxman187]

yup you got 'er now lol yea its a male... are you going to try to breed him??


probly not from what i have heard it takes a 100gallon for a pair i would like to tho i am just very happy everyone is saying male because they are much more colorful when adults. yah!

[Marxman187]

any guesses on about how old he is?

[crazycanuck]

how many inches is he??
within a year they are full grown,mine grew about an inch a month

[Marxman187]

how many inches is he??
within a year they are full grown,mine grew about an inch a month

i woulod say he is about 3 inches max maybe 2 1/2 and when do you expect full coloration?

[mostlycichlids]

Looks male to me he looks to be about 2-3 mo old.

[Marxman187]

Looks male to me he looks to be about 2-3 mo old.


cool thanks can you give me your best guess on this 1?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v207/sexyirishman/Fish/100_0963.jpg

[Marxman187]

i have also heard that males have two black spots....one on the tail and one mid body is this true because mine has them and that would be a fool proof way to tell if true

[mostlycichlids]

Best way to tell is the amount of spots on the lower part of the gill plate and males are bigger and bulkier than females.

[Marxman187]

do males have more or less spots on the face than female?

[mostlycichlids]

The females have much more on the lower gill plate than males that last pic looks male too although it has more green/blue spots on the gill plate.

Here is my male and female
Sorry about the bad pics.

Male: about 10in now
http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u269/akapaul26/HPIM1317.jpg

Female: About 6in
http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u269/akapaul26/HPIM1318-1.jpg

You can see my male has almost no blue on the gill plate wheras my females whole gill plate is full of blotches and sopts of blue/green. Also they are both almost full grown you can see how much bigger and bulkier the male is. Also adult size my male is gonna max out soon prob 10-12in and my female will stay at 6-7in.

[Marxman187]

The females have much more on the lower gill plate than males that last pic looks male too although it has more green/blue spots on the gill plate.

Here is my male and female
Sorry about the bad pics.

Male: about 10in now
http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u269/akapaul26/HPIM1317.jpg

Female: About 6in
http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u269/akapaul26/HPIM1318-1.jpg

You can see my male has almost no blue on the gill plate wheras my females whole gill plate is full of blotches and sopts of blue/green. Also they are both almost full grown you can see how much bigger and bulkier the male is. Also adult size my male is gonna max out soon prob 10-12in and my female will stay at 6-7in.



cool that was great! more helpful than everything ive been able to google on them thanks paul!

[mostlycichlids]

Glad I could help Marxman187!

[Marxman187]

hey paul how long before i start seeing that coloration in my dempsey?when will i start to see the purple?how old is yours?

[MIKE D]

cool thanks can you give me your best guess on this 1?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v207/sexyirishman/Fish/100_0963.jpg
That one is my female or so I've been told. I've had it for 3 months and its about 4 inches

[MIKE D]

Sorry to hijack but what about this one Male or female? I do have other picsif need be.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v207/sexyirishman/Fish/bonney3-24-08.jpg

[Marxman187]

no problem mike. after looking at pauls post his female has next to no spangles and if thats how they all look than it should be very easy to determine the difference, but that would also mean that 90% of the jack dempseys i have seen are male.other than from paul in havent goten to much help on this subject either alot of people contradict others its very frustrating.

[Marxman187]

based on what everyone has told me mike think you have two males personally but im no expert. pual seems to know alot more than me

[MIKE D]

The one that I posted today is thicker than the other one and is also a little longer. When they are in the same tank together the larger one fin slaps the other and also lip locks with it. I think I have two of the same sex,. Which sex I dont know. To quote Nolapete "JDs available are so far removed from the wild strains that sometimes only seeing their breeding tubes during spawning is the sure way of sexing them." I think thats the only way Im going to have any luck sexing mine.

P.s I wish there was an easy way to sex oscars

[Marxman187]

OK here are some updated pictures of my dempsey. does everybody still think i have a male?http://i251.photobucket.com/albums/gg303/Marxman420/S6301947.jpg

[Marxman187]

http://i251.photobucket.com/albums/gg303/Marxman420/S6301951.jpg

[MIKE D]

Well from what i've been reading its a male.

[Marxman187]

yeh most people say male and thats what im hoping for. on second thoughts i think i will get him a female if it is male, i want a pair can i get away with 2 in a 55 gallon?

[terror spawnin]

yeh most people say male and thats what im hoping for. on second thoughts i think i will get him a female if it is male, i want a pair can i get away with 2 in a 55 gallon?
If I had that fish planning to breed I would seriously look for a male.
Females almost look like males. But if you look at Mike D's avatar you will see the blue spots that cover the entire body with defined spots on cheeks.
Females have less spots towards their rear body along with more blotchy blue on their cheeks.
My female dempsey's fins are pointed and longer than her tail fin, while the male fins are rounded and shorter. And I'm not confused, I watched them court and spawn.
You are in luck if it is a female, females are harder to find than males.

[MIKE D]

So I dont have to change his name then :)