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Dixon

Dixon

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i may set up my in wall 106g tank as a fowlr and get a few smal pred fish for it.
first of all can i do this with no sump and just live rock and powerheads.
second how much rock do you reckon i will need
third what amount of lighting will be reqd.

i just want something basic with rock and fish that will look good with a decent centre piece fish like a dwarf lion, what other smallish hardy fish could i have with this if the set up is possible.
hopefully this may stop me from getting out of fishkeeping all together.
 
DiXoN said:
i may set up my in wall 106g tank as a fowlr and get a few smal pred fish for it.
first of all can i do this with no sump and just live rock and powerheads.
second how much rock do you reckon i will need
third what amount of lighting will be reqd.

i just want something basic with rock and fish that will look good with a decent centre piece fish like a dwarf lion, what other smallish hardy fish could i have with this if the set up is possible.
hopefully this may stop me from getting out of fishkeeping all together.
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****** Dix....copied my response to this thread on MFK, to here....******

Being a fish only, the ammount of live rock you have in there is purely down to your tastes, as long as filtration is provided by external filter(s)..If no filters are going to be used, then yes, about 50KG of live rock will suffice...

You certainly dont need a sump or skimmer in my opinion, yes, it will help, but you dont need them...Lighting, effectivly, none...Just add some lighting for your benefit as the fish, themselves, do not need nor require it.

Powerhead wise, i would recomend 2 x Hydor koralia 3 for flow...They pack a good flow, but its wide and dispersed...

Quite a few nice pred fish to get, just remember that with a lot of them, if the fish can fit in its mouth, it will become lunch....
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Reefscape said:
Powerhead wise, i would recomend 2 x Hydor koralia 3 for flow...They pack a good flow, but its wide and dispersed...
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I would think more. i have that amount of flow in my 75g and he's talking 106g and it's not nearly enough. I definitely need to add another koralia 1 or 2 in order to hit some spots that are notoriously collecting diatoms due to the low flow.
 
mandy21 said:
I would think more. i have that amount of flow in my 75g and he's talking 106g and it's not nearly enough. I definitely need to add another koralia 1 or 2 in order to hit some spots that are notoriously collecting diatoms due to the low flow.
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If it was a reef, i would go higher, but as its just a fowlr with pred / other fish, just my opinion, that is all i would put in there for flow....
 
i agree with reefscape. if it's not a reeftank, the flow is not essential. you do need flow, but the 20 x's the tank flow per hour is not really necessary.
 
Flow is nice to not have ugly brown spots all over the sand, however lol. I currently have zero rock in my 75g and several dead spots. Just my opinion, but in a FOWLR, I'd keep the flow higher to not have me ripping my hair out with feeling like I need to clean the sand every day or have a million hermits/snails roaming around.
 
that's true, mandy. flow is key in kepeing the sand clean and keeping pesky hair algae and diatoms (among others) under control. in my 65 gal hex (which is currently fowlr) i just have a koralia 2 (rated at 600 gph), and i really don't have any problems at all. however, i do have the dreaded hermits (don't tell grins :lipssealedsmilie:) that peruse the bottom constantly. however, i haven't had any problems with my hermits, i really like them in fact. they are so goofy and clumsy they make me laugh when i sit and watch them try to climb around and interact. my turbos/nassarius/stomatellas also help keep the algae/diatom problem under control. so i guess low flow would be an option if you were willing to put an adequate crew in the tank to keep the algae/diatoms/etc under control.
 
In my 75g FOWLR, I have 20 lbs. of live rock and about 20 lbs. live sand. The rest of the bottom is small grain CC. I currently run two external filters, both have bio-wheels, which I want to eliminate. The bio-wheel on my Magnum 250 has a small leak. I have beautiful corraline growing in most of the tank. Can I eliminate the large bio-wheel? Will I get a amm/nitrite surge if I do it. Those wheels, IMO, always keep my nitrates in the teens.
Contents of tank are a small clown, 3-stripe damsel, lemonpeel angel, longnose hawk, blue/green chromis and large yellow tang. Inverts are a CBS, mythrax crab, about 8 or 9 snails and 3 hermits. It's about a 6 month old tank. Do I need to get more live rock before eliminating the wheels.
I also run a skimmer 24/7.
 
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