Cloudiness after using Python No-Spill

[SC3]

I started using the Python No-Spill system and noticed that the water gets extremely cloudy after the refilling. I do put in enough water conditioner to treat the entire tank before refilling but I can't avoid the cloudiness. I only do 20% water changes at a time.

Am I the only one who has this problem and is there away to prevent this cloudiness?

[Rbishop]

The python would not cause that.

[BoredAgain]

The python would not cause that.
:iagree: I used my python for the second time yesterday, no issues at all. The only reason I can think of is if you are refilling with the outflow directly in the substrate, which could kick up some debris.

[SC3]

It's a white cloudiness and I suspect I'm cycling each time I refill.

I used to use buckets and condition the water before refilling the tank and that had caused no problems for me until I started using the no-spill system. I suspect the chlorine levels in my water may be very high.

[BoredAgain]

What are your water parameters? Ammonia, Nitrite, Nitrate...?

[Rbishop]

What water conditioner are you using?

What is your filter and how do you clean it?

Same parameters on your tap water?

[jm1212]

could be micro bubbles.

[BoredAgain]

could be micro bubbles.
Definitely a possibility...that will appear as cloudy water and could last for a day or two.

[wataugachicken]

when using the python, do you add enough dechlorinator to treat the entire tank or just enough for the amount of water you are changing? as others have said, please test tank water for ammonia, nitrite, and nitrate but also test tap water for ammonia and nitrite.

[BoredAgain]

when using the python, do you add enough dechlorinator to treat the entire tank or just enough for the amount of water you are changing?


I do put in enough water conditioner to treat the entire tank before refilling...

:)

[wataugachicken]

you know, i checked like three times to make sure you hadn't said that before i asked, and yet i still missed it. grrr. did you test all the water?

what brand is the conditioner and what does it say it removes? i don't think all conditioners remove chloramine, which could be a theory. you can call the water company and ask if they use it.

[SchizotypalVamp]

Just venturing a guess here, but with how toxic chloramine is and the fact that it doesn't evaporate, I'm pretty sure he wouldn't have any more fish by now..

[wataugachicken]

you know, i also thought until just recently that chloramine didn't evaporate, but it does. just much more slowly than chlorine. if you know anyone that works in a restaurant, the main chemical used as a sanitizing solution in some places (washing dishes, wiping down tables, etc.) is actually chloramine (200-300ppm!). you have to use it in cold water to prevent evaporation, and change it at least a couple times a day to renew the concentration. otherwise it evaporates out and becomes useless. since the water changes are small (only 20%) it may not be enough to harm the fish to where they show physical symptoms, but could be enough to harm the bacteria after a couple passes through the filter.

unfortunately, the OP has ignored several requests to test the water to see if the tank is actually cycling or not. . . .

[dixienut]

i have had this when refilling, by accident either the water is too cold or too warm it is killing the bacteria as it hits the warm tank water,
adjust to almost same temp to avoid the dieoff, if the cloudiness stays long then i don't know...

i use both hot and cold to balance the temps to the guesstimate temp of tank sometimes the water gets warmer or colder when filling after a little while some times i can't ketch it, as i am doing 11 tanks at same time have 2 pythons and empty one while filling other, and so on....

[Wat2Go]

We have exactly the same happening in our 110 gallon tank. The cloudiness goes away after a day or two.
I figured it had to do with the substrate (sand) even though we are very careful not to stir up any sand....the cloudiness doesn't happen in a gravel tank...
I find it annoying (having a cloudy tank two days a week) but figured there is nothing much I can do about it...

L.

[BoredAgain]

We have exactly the same happening in our 110 gallon tank. The cloudiness goes away after a day or two.
I figured it had to do with the substrate (sand) even though we are very careful not to stir up any sand....the cloudiness doesn't happen in a gravel tank...
I find it annoying (having a cloudy tank two days a week) but figured there is nothing much I can do about it...

L.
I use a python, I have sand, I have no cloudiness.

[Preposterous]

Using Novaqua and adding the water under pressure I noticed this. Likely micelle formation with the added O2 perhaps. Try adding the water slowly.

[terror spawnin]

Get a better filter.

[Wat2Go]

It isn't the filter. We run two aquaclear 110 on the tank. Filling more slowly...hmm, going to try that. Apart from it being cloudy, after refilling the tank, all plants and decorations also have these tiny bubbles on them (looks very pretty) and with the clearing of the water in a day or two, those also disappear. L.

[smyke]

I have that "issue" every time too. I use Prime and the python to fill. I let the water run on the background first but still the microbubbles form and the tank gets cloudy. it only lasts an hour at the most in my tank and I do 50% PWC every week.

I also noticed that when I add Prime (or any dechlor for that matter) to the bucket first and then add the water from the tap it gets a little "foamy". not as bad as the bubble bath foamy but same concept.

that with microbubbles is the culprit IMHO.

my fish have fun with the bubbles on the plants too.

[Sokoly]

I am having a very similar problem for th efirst time in my carrier. I suspect the cloudiness comes from the fertiliser. Since I have washed the Quartz gravel/sand granulated about 2-3mm twice by now.Th eonly thing that could possible cloud the water is the fertiliser. My tank is almost 600 litars and there is Eheim Classic filter model 2260 2400l/h. After a day of filling the water starts to get clody. The bacterial bloom is out of question since the tank has been running for a mounth now. I switched off the filter to see if the cloudiness would sediment on the substrat but it'seems to stay in the water just like a cigarette smoke. I tried treating the tank with Ozone but no improvements as so far. Is there a sollution to this problem???

Sokoly

[mvigor]

I'm betting that you wouldn't see those bubbles if you fill the tank with just the cold tap open...not that you can do that. I get the same cloudiness from my hot water tap in the mix. It goes away.