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jmarsh3253
04-15-2008, 5:11 PM
I read an article today from saltwater.about.com, regarding a quarantine process that starts with hyposalinity and a couple of rounds of preventative medications. I have attached the link here and am interested to see what you all think. The basis is similar to the analogy of preemptively worming a dog...I know, fish are not dogs...but it seems to make sense. Thanks for your feedback. http://saltaquarium.about.com/library/blank/blaggressiveqt.htm
Reefscape
04-15-2008, 5:16 PM
I dont believe in pre-empting an illness....I have written an article which is in the marine article area....I would not suggest running any treatment, unless something is actually there to be cured....
The bit at the ed does it for me...
The Aggressive Quarantine method may not suit everyone's idea of what quarantining is all about, but for those who want to get their new fish into their show tanks ASAP, it is a method that should be considered.
Thats a huge no no in my books....unless you need to activly react to an issue, there should never be an ASAP in marine keeping...
This is, of course, just my opinion...
OldManOfTheSea
04-15-2008, 9:57 PM
Sorry, but I couldn't or wouldn't call that an article, for the most part it is just another person or persons opinion and nothing more. And the worst that will do is misguide the beginner or novice hobbyists. It was like when I was still going to fish world and this guy wanted to setup himself a 55 gal tank only to cure LR.
I not remember what tank size was to be his main tank, but he was to only setup the 55 to cure the LR. What was not so funny about it is, his main tank was just being setup. I tried to tell him that he could put the LR right away in his main new setup and that it will help to cycle his tank. But be caused he readied in some $7.95 book that he needs to cure the LR first, he wouldn't listen to me.
What the beginners or novice not understand is that they are reading just another persons opinion for I did try telling him that if his main tank was well age and stocked with fish or so that he would be needing a tank setup to just cure LR, and yet still, he wouldn't listen.
Like when I start up the 40 QT and 180, I will have the 180 salinity at 1.026 and the QT at 1.022 for the lfs has most their tanks at 1.019.
Buddy
SpockthePuffer
04-15-2008, 10:04 PM
I've read that you should QT tangs at hyposalinity just because of the ich risk, what do you guys think of that?
I wouldn't feel comfortable treating my fish with meds just as a preventative, I would feel terrible if something happened to them because of the meds that they didn't even need.
mandy21
04-15-2008, 10:46 PM
I've read that you should QT tangs at hyposalinity just because of the ich risk, what do you guys think of that?
I wouldn't feel comfortable treating my fish with meds just as a preventative, I would feel terrible if something happened to them because of the meds that they didn't even need.
medication as a preventative? no. but I'm starting to consider the many benefits to hypo after doing a QT of an angel for 4 weeks for it to show signs of ich upon introduction into the main tank. that could have very well prevented me from ripping apart that 75g to get all the fish out, as well as doing that to a 30g that potentially had shared water from food/baster thing that I would feed the tanks with.
It might not be what is considered normal, but will I buy any new fish in the near future (meaning in the next year) without doing hypo? not with the few fish I would be adding once I get the 240g. i don't want to have to rip apart a tank that large.
SpockthePuffer
04-15-2008, 10:50 PM
medication as a preventative? no. but I'm starting to consider the many benefits to hypo after doing a QT of an angel for 4 weeks for it to show signs of ich upon introduction into the main tank. that could have very well prevented me from ripping apart that 75g to get all the fish out, as well as doing that to a 30g that potentially had shared water from food/baster thing that I would feed the tanks with.
It might not be what is considered normal, but will I buy any new fish in the near future (meaning in the next year) without doing hypo? not with the few fish I would be adding once I get the 240g. i don't want to have to rip apart a tank that large.
Maybe you were one of the people I read saying hypoing fish before adding them. I haven't gotten ich and I'm all kinds of paranoid so I think if I get any new fish I might hypo... I don't know what I would do if I got ich... probably cry and then cry some more...
OldManOfTheSea
04-16-2008, 12:00 AM
SpockthePuffer, im sure that you know of a good many other hobbyists who uses no QT or anything for that matter for best caring for the new additions to their main tanks and had few to no loses. Yet I known a good many times that even after a 6-8 weeks in a QT that still it not totally guarantee that fish will show no signs of ich in days or weeks to come. The big thing here is that we all not do many things the same in what if it be a QT or in preparing a new arrival to add to the main tank for so many rush in adding it in not taking it very slowly for one thing.
Another thing however is that we all not stock our tanks quite the same, in their bio loads that is for a great deal of hobbyists do tend to over stock, and that only adds to the stress. For most hobbyists, I would say better then 95% buy fish so fast that their tanks are fully stocked in a matter of months, if not weeks, this is where one of the wrongs be.
Like if a persons main tank had ich problems, I tell that person that once there be no signs of ich, that he/she must wait another eight weeks or more to be sure that no further issues come up. But then again, who wants to wait that long, not many.
Buddy
mandy21
04-16-2008, 12:16 AM
Maybe you were one of the people I read saying hypoing fish before adding them. I haven't gotten ich and I'm all kinds of paranoid so I think if I get any new fish I might hypo... I don't know what I would do if I got ich... probably cry and then cry some more...
haha yea, and pull out some hair.
Reefscape
04-16-2008, 4:09 AM
I've read that you should QT tangs at hyposalinity just because of the ich risk, what do you guys think of that?
I wouldn't feel comfortable treating my fish with meds just as a preventative, I would feel terrible if something happened to them because of the meds that they didn't even need.
Where is it you read that tangs should be quarantined in Hypo Spock? I'm intrigued... I really dont like the idea of this. Fact is, fish go through a hugley stressfull time from being taken, shipped, slapped in small tanks at the fish shop, moved from the fish shop to you tank, acclimatizing et cetra......I feel that a fish has gone through enough without adding a quarantine of hypo on top of all that.
**Note - Quarantine yes, not Quarantine + Hypo **
As i mentioned before, you cant treat for something unless your certain something is wrong/infected etc cetra....Its just like us taking cough medicine every day through winter "just in case" we may get a cold...It simply does not make sense....
SpockthePuffer
04-16-2008, 10:24 AM
Where is it you read that tangs should be quarantined in Hypo Spock? I'm intrigued... I really dont like the idea of this. Fact is, fish go through a hugley stressfull time from being taken, shipped, slapped in small tanks at the fish shop, moved from the fish shop to you tank, acclimatizing et cetra......I feel that a fish has gone through enough without adding a quarantine of hypo on top of all that.
**Note - Quarantine yes, not Quarantine + Hypo **
As i mentioned before, you cant treat for something unless your certain something is wrong/infected etc cetra....Its just like us taking cough medicine every day through winter "just in case" we may get a cold...It simply does not make sense....
I actually read it first on here by a member, can't remember who or what post it was just kind of an off hand comment and I was curious so I googled "quarantining tangs hypo" and just read a few of the results that came up. Not exactly the best method of getting info, I was just curious because I hadn't really thought of that before.
Reefscape
04-16-2008, 10:41 AM
Thanks for the response.....
SpockthePuffer
04-16-2008, 11:52 AM
Thanks for the response.....
lol, do you like my method of researching? google is such a wonderful thing! :P