The dark side of quarantining

LeahK

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Hi, I thought I had graduated to the "general freshwater forum" but I feel like this is a newbie question... I bought 3 otos on Sunday to help with the healthy algae growth I have in my 55g tank. Currently they are in a 20g QT. It is running an Aquaclear 70 HOB. I run the same model on my 55. As you may know, this filter has 3 components: sponge, carbon, and bio-material.
I've read online that carbon exhausts itself after a few weeks, but that after that it makes a good home for nitrifying bacteria. I have also read that it is a myth that carbon releases bad things back into the water after it is exhausted. So, keeping all this in mind, I took out the carbon layer from the established filter on the 55 and put it in the spare filter on the QT, thinking i would thus avoid a mini-cycle in the QT.
Well, true enough, the water params are ok so far: ammonia and nitrite 0, and nitrate barely detectable. But my water is cloudy--really cloudy. I am doing lots of water changes, but the cloudiness has been going on for about 24 hours now.
On the one hand I know I am doing the right thing by QTing my new fish, but on the other hand I read everywhere online that otos should not be put in anything but a well-established tank. And my QT is, of course, not well-established! I worry that the QT process itself will kill my new fish. Besides water changes and closely monitoring my stats, is there anything else I can do for the cloudiness? Is this a normal occurrence in QT's?
 
This is a guess, but along with the nitrifying bacteria, the carbon pouch (I've used the same method to "Insta-cycle" a tank) probably contained algae spores and what you are seeing now in the QT may be a bloom. As for QTing Otos, you should be ok, but be sure to make veggies available for them. Hopefully they take to them quickly.
 
I've never QTed my otos. I might be taking a chance but they come in so stressed already that I figure going to the main tank would be their best bet. They are so starved that half the time you can count on losing half of them. I lucked out and lost 1 of 6. Guess I also lucked out that they didn't bring any disease too.
 
If the cloudiness is whitish its most likely a bacterail bloom most tanks go thru this stage
its basicly tap water becoming aquarium water usually lasts 24-48 hours and its normal

IceH2oyeah lucked out but you'll learn one day when you infect an entire tank theres no excuse not to QT new fish
 
I QT all new arrivals in an uncycled tank. BUT I do daily partial water changes so the ammonia & nitrites never build up.
 
Thanks for the reassurance. I'll keep up the water-testing and water changes. Actually the water looks much clearer now than it did earlier today. Two of the three otos have discovered the zucchini and cucumber I put in for them. After all is said and done--even though I definitely share iceH20's concerns about otos being delicate--I think the QT will not only be good for disease prevention (and yeah, beblondie, I did learn the hard way -- that's why these days I QT even plants:screwy:) but it will give the otos a chance to learn to eat what I feed them without having to compete with my other fish. I'm glad to hear no one thinks the cloudiness is a sign of anything that bad.
 
Oh yeah... did you rinse your carbon first? Carbon rubs in shipping and in the store and generates a lot of small particles.. Before adding a carbon bag or carton to your filter system, always give it a very through rinse. Also, read the instructions on the package, some carbon needs to be activated first.

Carbon clouds in your water are harmless btw. Just makes it look murky.
 
Well, the water is clear, but I'm now having frustrating ammonia problems. I changed over 70% of the water yesterday (not all at once, but though multiple changes) to keep the ammonia around .25. I also cut a small piece of the filter pad off of another established filter I have, and stuck it in the QT filter to try and up the bacteria population. But this morning, I tested the water and the ammonia had risen from .25 to at least .50 (maybe even closer to 1) overnight. How could 3 little otos produce that much waste? I'm using Ammo Lock as my water conditioner. Has anyone ever had a problem with it producing false positive readings for ammonia? I've changed almost 80% of my water today, and the reading still seems to hover around .25.
 
Ammo-lock can give false readings. I would do another water change(it can't hurt) and use a water conditioner like Prime. Then after a few hours you can test the water again to see where you are at. White cloudiness is probably a bacterial bloom which is very common in new tank set ups. Once the good bacteria figures out where it will best serve the tank the water will become crystal clear again. It can happen in as little as overnight.

Marinemom
 
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