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briggadane
04-22-2008, 12:30 AM
I am trying to figure out how to imbed pics. Thought some might like to see a couple community tank members. These guys are maybe 3 1/2" - 4". Are they likely to stay these colors?

Lupin
04-22-2008, 12:46 AM
One is a blue diamond and the other seems to be blood pigeon I think. Nice discus. Where did you get these fish? Their eyes look disproportionately big for their body size though which could be a sign of stunting.

terror spawnin
04-22-2008, 3:25 AM
The colors will likely get more brilliant as they grow larger.
But they do look a little short for their depth..good sign of stunting from too small of tank.

Star_Rider
04-22-2008, 10:45 AM
cure lil guys
who are the tank mates?
are these in the 75?

have you studied the tank conditions for Discus?

I agree.. is they are 3.5 -4 " they appear to show signs opf stunting.

sloped forehead is an indicator too.
how is their diet ? how often are you feeding them? you may be able to compensate for some of the stunting. I think these fish are still young

pinkertd
04-22-2008, 3:03 PM
They are cute! I'm guessing they are still juveniles or subadults in which case their colors should intensify as they get older.

briggadane
04-22-2008, 3:30 PM
They are from Stendker. one is blue diamond, the other is Marlboro. They are still juvenile.

They get a wide variety diet. Morning is tropical fish flake or veggie flake(first item listed is salmon!), next feeding is either blood worms or brine shrimp. Every other day they get tubiflex. Night is a flake food and sometimes pleco rounds. I always offer treats to the fish as well- scrambled egg minced, beef of some type,etc. Theyhave a very diverse but balanced diet. Yes, they are in the 75G community, yes, I have had discus for years before this.

Not sure it matters,but picture was taken in motion, fish were racing each other.

Star_Rider
04-22-2008, 6:01 PM
I suspected the fish were young.

are the tubifexc live?/ I tend to stay away from tubifex(live) for my fish.

briggadane
04-22-2008, 8:27 PM
No. Its the dried type. The blood worms and brine shrimp are both live and frozen,depending on supply.

Will keeping them in a low population 75G help put them back on track to counteract any stunting they may have suffered?

terror spawnin
04-23-2008, 12:23 AM
I suspected the fish were young.

are the tubifexc live?/ I tend to stay away from tubifex(live) for my fish.
Is this advise based on the silly rumor of live worms crawling through their bellies?

pinkertd
04-23-2008, 8:02 AM
Is this advise based on the silly rumor of live worms crawling through their bellies?

I think it's based on the fact that live tubifex carry nasties that can get make the discus sick. I don't even feed freezedried tubifex anymore. I don't trust them at all based on how my discus have seemed after a couple of weeks of feeding them.

Briggadane - Keeping them in low population tank conditions will help in that they will have more room and less competiiton for food, less waste from other fish, less stress from other fish. You are probably going to find that 2 won't thrive as well as a group of 4 or 5. They could "buddy up" and feel perfectly comfortable to have no other discus tankmates, but generally they are happier in larger groups. The best things you can do to try to overcome whatever may have caused some stunting is 1) lots of clean water, I'm not sure what the rest of the fish load in that tank is so until I find out, I don't want to suggest a water change schedule based on those 2 fish only. Discus produce a ton of ammonia (pee). Secondly, feed small amounts frequently. Brine shrimp is not very nutritious, I'd give them lots of bloodworms and flake more than anything else for the next couple of months. They don't need the pleco rounds and in fact will give them bloat if they consume too much of that.

briggadane
04-23-2008, 10:25 PM
Ok,I think I have lots of room in the 75. The occupants are listed in my sig. I just updated it. There are maybe 8 of the cats.

I generally do weekly water changes. If weekly: 30%. If I let it slide: 50%.

Now and then, for no reason, I will change 10%.

I am a clear water nut. And I dont like sick looking fish.

MIKE D
04-23-2008, 11:34 PM
The white one looks like 2 of my discus and I wanted to know what type of discus I had.

pinkertd
04-24-2008, 9:38 AM
The orange-reddish colored one is probably a red marlboro. The black spots you see are called peppering. Almost all pigeon based discus have some peppering.

Coler
04-24-2008, 11:36 AM
lovely colouration !

Star_Rider
04-24-2008, 1:38 PM
Is this advise based on the silly rumor of live worms crawling through their bellies?

you must be kidding? right??
or you have not followed many posts I have made;)

pink was right on..tubifex are known to be an intermediate host for other more problematic parasites.

let alone the fact they thrive in muck(detritus)

MIKE D
04-25-2008, 12:33 AM
The orange-reddish colored one is probably a red marlboro. The black spots you see are called peppering. Almost all pigeon based discus have some peppering.

I didnt know that. Mine both have peppering.

terror spawnin
04-26-2008, 1:28 AM
you must be kidding? right??
or you have not followed many posts I have made;)

pink was right on..tubifex are known to be an intermediate host for other more problematic parasites.

let alone the fact they thrive in muck(detritus)
No...actually I am not kidding. I have read a few previous posts suggesting to stay away from live bloodworms and such due to crawling out through the stomachs of fish.

I wasn't pretending I was at the "Chucklehut"