View Full Version : Bought Some Cory's Today.....
CaliLifeStyle
06-04-2008, 10:27 PM
I know two for sure are Julii, but the 3rd one was uncertain. Any ideas? I got him for 4.99. The LFS didn't know so they didn't bump up the price.
The first one is the unknown. The second one is the Julii. They both look similar though.
Lupin
06-04-2008, 10:44 PM
Corydoras julii are not often available and can be confused with the Corydoras trilineatus. None are C. julii.
Look here (http://www.planetcatfish.com/catelog/genus.php?genus_id=1).
pavemike
06-04-2008, 11:57 PM
Did you put these guys in your 55 gallon or your 10 gallon? If you put them in your 55 gallon, i would suggest picking up 2 or 3 more of these guys. They tend to like a small group, and may be a little more playful with a few more playmates. Congrats on your pickup though....these guys may become your favorite fish before you know it!!
CaliLifeStyle
06-05-2008, 12:06 AM
I did put them in my 55 gallon. I am curious as to what they are if Lupin says they are not Julii. Was I duped by the LFS because the Julii are more expensive than some of the other corys. I think I might buy some more, but I want to know their real names so I don't get ripped off.
How much did they cost? Closest I can compare the second pic with is Corydoras kanei but they're suspiciously different based on spot arrangements. I don't think anyone has obtained the Corydoras julii. The color patterns of your own cories are different from the true Corydoras julii.
Corydoroas julii are really hard to find, so in the end i got panda corys. I personally dont think they look like juliis either but they are very cute whatever they turn out to be.
CaliLifeStyle
06-05-2008, 11:26 AM
How much did they cost? Closest I can compare the second pic with is Corydoras kanei but they're suspiciously different based on spot arrangements. I don't think anyone has obtained the Corydoras julii. The color patterns of your own cories are different from the true Corydoras julii.
I paid 7.99 for the two supposed Julii. My LFS is selling them as such. I agree, the patterns are different. Not to mention the "V" pattern going across the top of the fish. I do like them though even though I may have paid too much.
jenratico
06-05-2008, 12:32 PM
I've been wondering lately if Herman (who is about 6 years old and the last survivor of a school of what was purchased as panda cories) is actually a panda. I purchased some new "pandas" for him, but have noticed that they don't look quite the same - because Herman has a narrow black strip down his back and more of a band around his tail. Here he is, I think he looks more like "metae" on planet catfish:
(his top fin is damaged from the CAE (now traded in) but is growing back, and the stripe from that fin to his tail is hard to see except from the top.)
http://www.shutterfly.com/jsp/proceserv.jsp?uid=0AaNWjhw0aNGPA&rostate=67b0de21ef50af8c2526&co=-1&js=1212681450756&ps=1&rs=6
Here is one of the new "panda" cory's:
http://im1.shutterfly.com/procserv/47b8db28b3127ccec447438f1d4a00000076100AaNWjhw0aNG IPbz4G
They haven't been hanging out together much, so I'm thinking if they are different species that may be why. Do you agree that Herman might be metae? Should I try to find more of them?
fishorama
06-05-2008, 1:04 PM
All I got was a red x for Herman's pic. The new cory is a panda. From your discription Herman does sound like a metae. I've had them, very nice corys & should be less expensive than pandas. Seems like they get a little bigger than pandas too.
For your other corys you may get a better idea of their 2 species after they settle in a couple weeks, they look a bit faded. It's hard to tell exact species, there are many with that basic coloration: mask, dark dorsal area & body spots, without knowing where they were originally found. Lots of individual variations too. I agree they don't look like julii to me, cute though. Julii don't have a mask & the dorsal fin spot is away from the body.
chesterthehero
06-05-2008, 8:43 PM
planetcatfish.com has an amazing amount of info on all types of catfish, including cories. check them out if you want to find out what kind of cories those others are
I've been wondering lately if Herman (who is about 6 years old and the last survivor of a school of what was purchased as panda cories) is actually a panda. I purchased some new "pandas" for him, but have noticed that they don't look quite the same - because Herman has a narrow black strip down his back and more of a band around his tail. Here he is, I think he looks more like "metae" on planet catfish:
(his top fin is damaged from the CAE (now traded in) but is growing back, and the stripe from that fin to his tail is hard to see except from the top.)
http://www.shutterfly.com/jsp/proceserv.jsp?uid=0AaNWjhw0aNGPA&rostate=67b0de21ef50af8c2526&co=-1&js=1212681450756&ps=1&rs=6
Here is one of the new "panda" cory's:
http://im1.shutterfly.com/procserv/47b8db28b3127ccec447438f1d4a00000076100AaNWjhw0aNG IPbz4G
They haven't been hanging out together much, so I'm thinking if they are different species that may be why. Do you agree that Herman might be metae? Should I try to find more of them?
Jen, he looks oddly like a panda to me. Could you please get a pic of the top view angle of his body to show the narrow black strip down his back? His side view makes me think he's still a panda.
jm1212
06-05-2008, 9:34 PM
the first pic is of a schwartz's corydoras...i paid $2 for mine.
CaliLifeStyle
06-05-2008, 10:15 PM
So basically I paid too much. I don't have too many options when it comes to places to buy my fish. That web site that you refer to has similar corys like mine, but none really fit the bill.
jenratico
06-05-2008, 10:22 PM
I'll try the picture of Herman's side view again, his mugshot, and also a really crappy one that shows his back as he swims away - I'd try for better but don't know where my husband put the camera. If it helps, he's bigger than the other panda's, but they are young I think. I'd say and inch and a quarter. He could also be a girl.
http://www.shutterfly.com/jsp/proceserv.jsp?uid=0AaNWjhw0aNGPA&rostate=67b0de21ef594cf0c4cd&co=-1&js=1212718864604&ps=1&rs=6
http://www.shutterfly.com/jsp/proceserv.jsp?uid=0AaNWjhw0aNGPA&rostate=67b0de21ef596b4d84fb&co=-1&js=1212719019168&ps=1&rs=6http://www.shutterfly.com/jsp/proceserv.jsp?uid=0AaNWjhw0aNGPA&rostate=67b0de21ef58c4416544&co=-1&js=1212718906676&ps=1&rs=6
jenratico
06-06-2008, 11:17 AM
Since I'm having so much trouble with my photos, here are links:
Herman's mug
http://i280.photobucket.com/albums/kk175/jenratico/Herman.jpg
Herman from the side
http://i280.photobucket.com/albums/kk175/jenratico/TreeCory.jpg
Herman's back (sorry about picture quality)
http://i280.photobucket.com/albums/kk175/jenratico/Hermsback.jpg
chesterthehero
06-06-2008, 12:02 PM
the first ones are not schwartzis. schwartzis have 3 rows of distinct dots down their sides. the photos show a bunch of tiny speckles all over
chesterthehero
06-06-2008, 12:19 PM
since you wont use the resources available...
the first two photos show a c. blochi
http://planetcatfish.com/catelog/species.php?species_id=464
the "new panda" is a panda cory
http://planetcatfish.com/catelog/species.php?species_id=267
herman looks kinda like a panda and kinda like a metae, but hes got a stripe down his back which makes him unlike a panda, and no stripe extending down onto his tail which makes hime unlike a metae. you might want to try posting that pic on planet catfish and ask the experts
Squawkbert
06-06-2008, 12:23 PM
I don't recognize either of the first 2 pics, so chances are they're neither julii, schwartz or any or the more commonly available ones. I'd go get 3-4 more, even at the price as you'll likely not see them again anytime soon.
Schwartz go for $5-$7 around here, as do C. trilineatus. The only break we get, aside from an occasional sale, is typically on C. aeneus and they're $3.50 or more.
fishorama
06-06-2008, 1:48 PM
jenratico- Herman is a metae. I was wrong, they only get to 2 inches. The ones we had seemed big but it was quite a while ago. He probably would like some friends if you find some but after all this time maybe he's set in his ways.
CaliLifeStyle
06-06-2008, 9:01 PM
So I went back to the LFS today to buy some plants. I let the workers know that the Julii they claimed to have sold me were not Julii at all. I explained how the markings did not match Julii seen on different web sites and they got insulted. They pulled out this catfish book and showed me a picture of a "true" Julii and I told them it didn't match the ones they sold me. Now they want proof. I don't care that they aren't what they said they are. I care that I paid more because of what they were supposed to be. The only problem I have is that I can't match the Cory I have with any from the types shown on different web sites. The LFS wants me to print out the forum stating that what I have aren't Julii. I feel cheated, but there aren't too many stores that sell fish. It's either stop buying them or keep paying the price and hope I get what they advertise. Maybe with help from this forum and the experts here, I can get a store credit or call their bluff. What do you all think about this?
noodles62
06-06-2008, 9:06 PM
http://a1272.g.akamai.net/7/1272/1121/20080516182747/www.liveaquaria.com/images/categories/product/p-39308-corycat.jpg (javascript:popupWin1('/product/detailed_image.cfm?pCatId=934', 50, 50, 596, 616))Corydoras Panda on LiveAquaria???
CaliLifeStyle
06-06-2008, 9:19 PM
I'm going to have to disagree with Lupin that these are Corydoras trilineatus. Those have line like patterns. The ones I have are more leopard than anything, but the Julii shown do not have the orange band that mine have. The ones with the orange bands don't have spots like these. Maybe I have a Juliitrilneatus (I have no idea).
JamieB
06-06-2008, 9:34 PM
Awsome looking cory's,they're on my favorite fish.
So I went back to the LFS today to buy some plants. I let the workers know that the Julii they claimed to have sold me were not Julii at all. I explained how the markings did not match Julii seen on different web sites and they got insulted. They pulled out this catfish book and showed me a picture of a "true" Julii and I told them it didn't match the ones they sold me. Now they want proof. I don't care that they aren't what they said they are. I care that I paid more because of what they were supposed to be. The only problem I have is that I can't match the Cory I have with any from the types shown on different web sites. The LFS wants me to print out the forum stating that what I have aren't Julii. I feel cheated, but there aren't too many stores that sell fish. It's either stop buying them or keep paying the price and hope I get what they advertise. Maybe with help from this forum and the experts here, I can get a store credit or call their bluff. What do you all think about this?
Your LFS feel insulted because they are afraid they cannot get more profit if their stocks are revealed to be otherwise.:screwy:
I'm going to have to disagree with Lupin that these are Corydoras trilineatus. Those have line like patterns. The ones I have are more leopard than anything, but the Julii shown do not have the orange band that mine have. The ones with the orange bands don't have spots like these. Maybe I have a Juliitrilneatus (I have no idea).
I did not say your cories are trilineatus. I explained that juliis are confused with trilineatus. Where in my posts did I say they are trilineatus?
CaliLifeStyle
06-06-2008, 9:43 PM
Easy there Lupin. You referred to trilineatus because Julii are often confused with them as if to say that's what they were. That's how I took it anyway. Your comment lead me to believe that. No need to get upset. I'm sure you know more about them than I do. I guess I was hoping for the correct name of my fish. No offense.
Easy there Lupin. You referred to trilineatus because Julii are often confused with them as if to say that's what they were. That's how I took it anyway. Your comment lead me to believe that. No need to get upset. I'm sure you know more about them than I do. I guess I was hoping for the correct name of my fish. No offense.
Oh, no problem, Cali.:) By the way, if you want store credit, are you going to return the cories as well? Never seen those before hence I was trying to match the pics in planetcatfish.com but to no avail.:lipssealedsmilie:
http://a1272.g.akamai.net/7/1272/1121/20080516182747/www.liveaquaria.com/images/categories/product/p-39308-corycat.jpg (javascript:popupWin1('/product/detailed_image.cfm?pCatId=934', 50, 50, 596, 616))Corydoras Panda on LiveAquaria???
They're not Corydoras panda. Looks like C. adolfoi.
CaliLifeStyle
06-06-2008, 9:52 PM
Oh, no problem, Cali.:) By the way, if you want store credit, are you going to return the cories as well? Never seen those before hence I was trying to match the pics in planetcatfish.com but to no avail.:lipssealedsmilie:
No I plan to keep them. I think they are awesome. I just wanted to let them know that I knew a little something about fish and not to rip me off. I am quite happy with my selection though. Maybe they will find out that they are rare and kick themselves in the booty. Just because someone likes something, doesn't mean they should have to overpay for it.
CaliLifeStyle
06-06-2008, 9:55 PM
Awsome looking cory's,they're on my favorite fish.
Thanks JamieB. I like them. Too bad the LFS doesn't have any more of these. Maybe I'll get lucky and find out I bought a male and a female.
Dwarf Puffers
06-06-2008, 10:04 PM
I'm going to say "no" to metae as well. Too small an eye stripe, and the black on the dorsal fin is backwards compared to metae. Also, as far as I can tell from the pics, no gold on the cheeks. Most similar (indeed, almost identical) cories have golden cheeks.
Needless to say, I've searched the planetcatfish list thoroughly.
CaliLifeStyle
06-07-2008, 12:56 AM
I'm going to say "no" to metae as well. Too small an eye stripe, and the black on the dorsal fin is backwards compared to metae. Also, as far as I can tell from the pics, no gold on the cheeks. Most similar (indeed, almost identical) cories have golden cheeks.
Needless to say, I've searched the planetcatfish list thoroughly.
I did the same thing and I couldn't come up with the right mix. I guess it will just remain a mystery!:shakehead:
Rbishop
06-07-2008, 9:10 AM
Nice pics.
fishorama
06-07-2008, 10:42 AM
I think we're getting confused over which corys each of us is talking about, LOL. It's more confusing since not all the pics are visible to everyone.
Cali has 2 different fish that don't look like julii or schwartzi to me but I really can't tell what exactly they might be. You could try posting pics over at planetcatfish. Try for some more pics.
jen also has 2 different corys, a metae, old Herman (aka red x) & a new panda.
Good thing all corys are cute.
Dwarf Puffers
06-07-2008, 10:46 AM
Fishorama, I was reffering to Herman.
CaliLifeStyle
06-10-2008, 3:31 PM
So I've been doing some research and still no answers. I registered with planet catfish, but I have not received my confirmation email. If this place can't help me, who can?
Squawkbert
06-10-2008, 3:55 PM
IMO - it doesn't matter what the LFS calls 'em, you should either get several more (what I'd do, as they're *something* unusual at what I'd call a good price) or return what you have and look for a new fish source.
FWIW, I went throught the exact same ordeal w/ a LFS by me (You have these C. trilineatus marked as C. julii // Julii is what I ordered, so that's what they are // No, they aren't - see these pictures....) all in vain. It isn't generally worth arguing for too long.
chesterthehero
06-10-2008, 8:25 PM
it is true that you dont need all of the same kind to make cories happy. just get several that you like and add water :)
Maybe they are C. melanistius melanistius?
http://www.aquarticles.com/articles/breeding/Bryson_Corydoras%20melanistius%20melanistius.html
Or maybe C. Punctatus Punctatus?
http://www.planetcatfish.com/catelog/species.php?species_id=69
CaliLifeStyle
06-11-2008, 1:59 PM
Maybe they are C. melanistius melanistius?
http://www.aquarticles.com/articles/breeding/Bryson_Corydoras%20melanistius%20melanistius.html
Or maybe C. Punctatus Punctatus?
http://www.planetcatfish.com/catelog/species.php?species_id=69
That first web site is the most accurate picture I've seen yet. Unfortuneately for me, I bought the last ones the LFS had. I guess I'm going to buy a few other types and see how they act with each other.
fishorama
06-11-2008, 5:08 PM
They'll be fine with other species especially if they look sorta the same. At worst they'll ignore them most of the time.
CaliLifeStyle
12-10-2008, 4:57 PM
http://www.aquabid.com/cgi-bin/auction/auction.cgi?disp&allend
This link is from aquabid. A guy is selling these corys as julii. They look just like the ones I was told were julii from the LFS.
DarrylR
12-10-2008, 5:35 PM
Thread revival :S.
Those look like my spotted cories in the picture.
http://www.aqua-fish.net/imgs/fish2/spotted-cory-profile.jpg
CaliLifeStyle
12-10-2008, 5:51 PM
Thread revival :S.
Those look like my spotted cories in the picture.
http://www.aqua-fish.net/imgs/fish2/spotted-cory-profile.jpg
minus the black fin