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Blueiz
06-27-2008, 4:50 PM
I purchased a full grown angel this past Saturday. Its been fine since putting it in the tank, up until today. I was looking at the tank and noticed that it did not have its tail fanned out all the way, on closer inspection it appears to have a white, cloudy coat over its body and what appears to be a few possible ich spots. I have currently started the salt treatment, just in case..wont hurt anything if it is not ich... What Im wanting to know is, is there anything else it could be? All the other fish in the tank are fine, paramters are 0,0,~20, with a ph of ~6. Tank is planted, no aggresion issues in the tank.

And this is why we use QT, so we dont have to treat a 75 g tank for one fish...:grinyes: :wall: :confused:

Thanks,
Blue

Coler
06-27-2008, 4:57 PM
Ugh what bad luck. Possibly columnaris ?

Lupin
06-28-2008, 3:55 AM
Costia is my guess. Does the angel also flash, Blue?

Rbishop
06-28-2008, 7:00 AM
It could be fungus and an ich. I agree that the ich treatment can not hurt.

Blueiz
06-28-2008, 8:03 AM
Update: Im still not sure what exactly it is.. BUT, the fish is looking better and a bit more active this am. The cloudy slime cat is going away, the tail just isnt as fanned out as it could be.

I havent seen the fish flash at all, I am keeping a close eye on it for ich spots tho..

Lupin
06-28-2008, 9:52 AM
Glad to hear it seems recovering.:)

Blueiz
06-29-2008, 8:49 PM
Heres an update of my fish. Altho it still has a white haze on its body, it is fanning its tail out for the most part now, still has a vigorous appetite, and is showing more interest in its habitat. Im wondering if putting it in clean water vs the water from the pet store had a reverse affect on it and made it sick?

Fingers are crossed that it makes a 100 percent recovery, it appears to have already paired with my female and Im looking for a spawn any day now..

Blue

Star_Rider
06-30-2008, 11:00 AM
I've seen this happen when introducing my wilds to my water from the importers water.

I kept the water clean and actually used pima/mela fix. it seemed to help (tho I still believe clean water was what actually helped.)

2 of the 6 had this where the slime coat appeared to be sloughing off.

they are all healed now. tho in to tanks I moved them to ..i am still delaing with an occasional outbreak of protozoa.(sx=capillaria)

Rbishop
06-30-2008, 11:43 AM
Maybe to big of a change from the LFS water? I would still keep the changes up just to help it adjust. Glad it is eating, that is always a good sign, blueiz!

DavidZ
06-30-2008, 1:32 PM
In what cases do you recomend using pima/mela fix and in what quantity?

Star_Rider
06-30-2008, 3:20 PM
usually in real mild cases. water changes usually do wonders.. but in a few cases I will add pima/mela fix.. they can in mild cases help sooth/prevent irritations from fungal and or bacterial infection.

Emerica88
07-06-2008, 1:32 PM
I think my angle fish has the same illness as yours. What did you use to get rid of the white cloudy coat over its body?

Star_Rider
07-07-2008, 10:37 AM
I think my angle fish has the same illness as yours. What did you use to get rid of the white cloudy coat over its body?
you could start your own thread. but please include water parameters, size of tank and list of tank mates. also include temp.

wetwillyjoe69
09-07-2008, 8:15 PM
I had the very same symptoms with my angels, the gold more than the others. i bought two new golds from the lfs that had paired up, qt'd them, then introduced them in to my main population. they died in a few days from the symptoms. then my other angels started showing symptoms. i did the salt treatment untill i started seeing ich on my golds. afraid that i introduced other pathogens, i moved all my stock into a clean 20 gal to qt them all and started them on lifeguard all-in-one with 100% w/c every other day. its been 10 days now and no more symptoms. i bleached out my main tank and did a bleach bath at around 5-10% bleach on all my plants and substrate. im sure i killed every living organism in my tank, substrate, filters, and aparently almost all of my plants(pretty sure i used way too much bleach. now my main tank is almost done cycling (the nitrates have peaked and started coming back down). strangely many people i know with recently bough angels from many differnt locations seem to have the same symptoms. all the lfs have this problem with their angels in a 50 mile radius of me. very very strange