Looking for a good home. Bullfrog.

[kingearwig]

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I was going to release him when he started to develop lungs but I would love to see him grow up. Well I don't have the time or money for the proper terrarium but I am sure some one here does. I would like to see pics from time to time though or else I would just release him.
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Would kinda like to see a pic of the proposed home also.
You pay shipping.

[Bk718]

releasing him wouldnt do the environment much good.. Either find a seller/a store to take him in or worse case scenario you will have to put him down..

[kingearwig]

Well I am sure that I will find a taker on here sooner or later. I am sure that I have at least a year. I know a pond that I can release him to where I feel that it would be beneficial. But I am sure that some one will get enjoyment out of raising him.

[Fishy_Fun]

It would help you if you posted some care requirements and habitat for living indoors

[DeeSeven]

your location would help


and DO NOT RELEASE HIM! there is nothing beneficial about releasing a housed bull frog. You can seriously screw up the eco system

[austinpetemo]

how can you screw up the eco. if you take him back where you got him the worst case scenario is he gets eaten.

[kingearwig]

I am in Northwest Indiana.
Due to their size and dietary needs, I would consider this an intermediate amphibian to keep as a pet. These are not communal frogs - they are territorial and will even eat tank-mates.
American Bullfrog - Rana catesbeiana
Life Span - About 3 -5 years, however it is possible for them to make 7 years in captivity.
Diet - Anything that fits in their mouths is fair game. They will eat small rodents (mice), insects such as crickets roaches etc, reptiles, frogs, turtles - get the picture. They will even resort to cannibalism at a moments notice.

Feeding - Bullfrogs have teeth in the roof of their mouth and a muscular tongue capable of flipping prey into their mouth. Large insects and worms should be left on the rocks. Dead mice are best offered either by hand using forceps. Feed them every other day when adults, less so if the surrounding temperature drops. Young can be fed every day. Make sure to remove all uneaten food.

Housing - A 20 gallon tank is sufficient for a single frog (if keeping more frogs the tank size must increase, keeping in mind that floor space is more important than height). Bullfrogs are semi aquatic and need a land area as well as a large enough body of water that they can submerge their bodies. A half land/half water tank is a good choice for bullfrogs and these can be set up a number of ways It is easiest in the long term to separate the land and water areas with a piece of plastic or Plexiglas placed across the aquarium and sealed with aquarium grade silicone sealant. This allows the use of soil on the terrestrial side to allow the frogs to burrow. A dense piece of wood (e.g. driftwood) can be placed partly in the water and partly on land to provide an easy transition from water to land (this also provides a nice basking spot). Alternately, gravel can be sloped in the aquatic side to provide a ramp out of the water.

Substrate - a combination of soil and peat moss, covered with a commercial reptile bark substrate and sphagnum moss can be used on the terrestrial side. The depth should be at least 3-5 inches to allow burrowing. Gravel can be http://www.grizzlyrun.com/Files/Images/Image_Gallery/Bullfrog_pic.jpgused on the aquatic side. It is extremely important to use smooth gravel only (to prevent skin abrasions and injuries), and ideally the gravel should be large enough not to be swallowed.

Temperature - the tank can be kept at room temperature 68 - 80 degrees F, although a temperature drop at night is a good idea (down to about 60 F).

Lighting - No special lighting is required. You can use a UVA/UVB fluorescent light which may be beneficial. Just make sure the frog can't jump onto the lamp. Avoid making the enclosure too bright however as the frogs may just hide if the tank is very brightly lit. A light cycle of about 10 hours light to 14 hours dark is recommended by some keepers.

Water - the water used must be dechlorinated. Use a product from the pet store designed to remove chorine (and chloramine, if your water supply is treated with chloramine) to be safe. Filtration is not a necessity, but doing a 50% water change on a regular basis (at least twice weekly, perhaps more) is necessary. (In fact, some experts believe that the constant water vibrations from the filter is a sensory overload to frogs).

Normal Behavior and Interaction - It is generally recommended that you house these frogs alone (except for breeding) in order to avoid cannibalism. Bullfrogs are the "jumpers" of the frog group, they can easily jump 3 to 6 feet.



I would very much like to see him go to a nice paludarium. Probably should be a 55 gallon. If he gets released it will be back to the pond he came from. I am thinking I should cross post this on MFK what do you think?

[DeeSeven]

kingearwing try craigslist and def. cross post with mfk

and not to hijack your thread kingearwing but to answer austinpetemo...releasing a pet you either caught or got from the lfs or whatever messes up the eco system cuz for example take the frog. Has the frog been housed with his water his food his chemicals if you put that outside the frog could give an infection to another frog or to whoever eats him which would cause a LOT of problems. Call me over reacting but when cnn has articles about a "fish crossed with aligator" aka a Gar. That just makes "us" the fish community look terrible and puts laws and restrictions on things that weren't there before which ruins it for everyone. Forget the frog for a minute austinpetemo use freshwater plants. They are starting to outlaw some plants in states cause they are killing their ponds/lakes/etc. Just my 2 cents back to sellin the frog and good luck with it by the way

[Bk718]

try mfk and perhaps craigslist in your area

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[DeeSeven]

try mfk and perhaps craigslist in your area

edit: ahh ninja'd
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[petluvr]

how can you screw up the eco. if you take him back where you got him the worst case scenario is he gets eaten.
IMO the worst case scenario is he gives the entire pond something that it is not able to handle that came from home aquaria living. NEVER RELEASE ANYTHING NO MATTER IF IT WAS CAUGHT WILD OR NOT!!!!!!!

[bextraordinary]

I believe in not TAKING this stuff from the wild to begin with. Jeebus. If you wander over to MFK, it's FULL of people catching gar and other native fish, keeping them in a tank until they get too big, then sticking them back in the wild again.

Bloody irresponsible and heartless... makes me so angry. :mad2:

[p3purr]

I there a science center or environmental center in your area that might take him? Craigslist or Freecycle might work as long as you could find someone who won't release him.

I agree with everyone about not releasing him outside for all the reasons listed.

[DeeSeven]

I believe in not TAKING this stuff from the wild to begin with. Jeebus. If you wander over to MFK, it's FULL of people catching gar and other native fish, keeping them in a tank until they get too big, then sticking them back in the wild again.

Bloody irresponsible and heartless... makes me so angry. :mad2:


imo if you take it from the wild its fine just don't release it and make sure you have the right space for it

[kingearwig]

I think you are right about releasing it. I now won't take a risk returning him there. The thought of some strange south american disease coming from my blue rams is unappealing. The pond he came from does probably have enough bull frogs too. If I have to I will set up his necessary paludarium.(Ooooh Northwest Indiana biotope?) But the offer will stand until then. He is really cool but he does poop a lot. I am having password problems on mfk. got a new one and it still doesn't work.

[Blue Silver]

Do you know how much the shipping would be to send him to Florida? zip code 33830.

[kingearwig]

I can use the $9.80 flat rate box. Assuming it is legal there that is.

[Blue Silver]

I just PM'd you. About it being legal or not I will check with the Fl Fish & Game website and find out.

[kingearwig]

Blue silver has fell through..... anyone else interested in a bullfrog baby?

[MudskipperFan]

I could use one of my tanks to keep him. I like frogs.