Stuip pleco questions

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Ancistrus is the BN genus, there are several species. Albino is not a species just a color form. I think the common BN are sp.3, not a name.

Rubberlips are chaetostoma genus, thomasii or something like that is the common 1.

I'm not sure about your questions but from what I understand, Planet Catfish is a pretty accurate site.

I don't know much about plecos but I can show you how to hold them. LOL. I think that it freaks them out so they hold still. Here is one of my threads with a pic of me holding one. I had gloves on b/c this lil guy had barbs and I didn't want to throw him. LOL.

You just take your thumb and your pointer finger and hold it under their heads, be sure not to hold their gills though. Be prepared for a probable noise too. My pleco sounded like a catfish out of water. LMAO. I guess they are kin.

Good Luck to you.
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Cory Keeper said:

Ok, First off, I dunno how accurate planet catfish is, so I may have been wasting time. But I got three questions

What the freak is the L number for BN plecos? and it aint L144 either, cause that belongs to the albino BN's

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planetcatfish.com is probably the most accurate site out there for bottom dwellers...

As fishorama said the albino form is not a species, just a different color morph like other animals. BN's are from the Ancistrus genus and the L number will depend on the actual species...

http://planetcatfish.com/catelog/numbers.php?mode=l&thumbs=16&start=0&genus_id=4

Cory Keeper said:

And what species is the rubberlip pleco? I can't find anything on those, closest I get is a rubber pleco, and those are next to impossible to get in the states. Petsmart has been selling them for a while, But I cant figure out what family they belong to.

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Rubberlip is just one of the many common names for the Chaetostoma plecs...also known as "bulldog" and "rubbernose" plecos.

http://planetcatfish.com/catelog/species.php?species_id=407

The majority of bn you run across are not really L number plecos.

Mature males and sometimes females have soft tentacles (bushy fleshy growths) on the snout - this is unique within the genus Ancistrus. The common Bristlenose is commonly captive bred appears impossible to identify to species primarily due to a lack of original locality information but also becuase tens of undescribed congeners exist. It is not assigned to species here for that reason. It is sometimes thought to be a hybrid, however it is not easy to determine if it is so or not. Several man made variants exist: piebald, albino and long-fin (veiltail) varieties have been bred in a captivity.

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There are actually several L number/described bn which are less commonly seen such as:
Ancistrus punctatus- L182, Starlight Bristlenose Pleco
Ancistrus claro- Gold Marble Bristlenose Catfish, LDA08
Ancistrus tamboensis- Common Name(s) Bristlenose Catfish
Ancistrus sp. (L125)- Common Name(s) L125, L150
Ancistrus sp. (L144)- Common Name(s) Black eyed yellow bristlenose, L144 (not the same as albinos with red eyes)
Ancistrus ranunculus- Common Name(s) L034, Medusa Pleco

there are a lot of common names out there for the same pleco. planet catfish is a lot more precise. you have to dig for your info. it may also be that more than one species of catfish is called "bristlenose". under the common names for the cat-e-log, there are two "bristlenose" plecos: ancistrus tamboensis and ancistrus sp (3). according to what ive looked up, albino bristlenoses are also ancistrus sp (3). L144 is a black eyed yellow bristlenose, not an albino. you gotta read the details

also, i bet what pleco calls "rubberlip plecos" are known as "rubbernose plecos" they misname a lot of things. they called my leopard sailfin pleco a butterfly pleco. not even the same animal. petco isnt known for having the most accurate information on the planet. better to look at sources that devote their time to giving out the correct information for your animals

Cory Keeper said:

Second, if that info is correct, then explain how Petsmart has Rubberlips if they are not available in the hobby.

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PetSmart definitely has Rubberlip/Bulldog plecos (L187b), I have two from there.

Cory Keeper said:

Second, if that info is correct, then explain how Petsmart has Rubberlips if they are not available in the hobby.

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Well, I think jpappy pretty clearly answered this question in his post where he said that what are sometimes called "rubberlips" are more commonly known as rubbernose/bulldog plecos, which are commonly available in the hobby...