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jujubee
09-01-2008, 3:24 PM
So i planted my tank about 2 weeks ago. so far the plants are doing OK . having some issues with leaves curling and tiny little holes in some leaves on the anubias and on the swords(not sure if they are radican swords or melon swords). just yesterday i started noticing some algae growing. did about a 50 percent water change today. i am dosing with flourish excel and flourish as my ferts, as well as tabs for the swords. i am running 96 watts of light right now (2.08 wpg). is that enough light for the swords? maybe thats why i am getting curling leaves oh and brown spots? if so i can put another 30 watts of light on no problem bringing me to 2.73 wpg. should i be worried about the algae really and what am i doing wrong.

NeonFlux
09-01-2008, 3:28 PM
Hm. Well, what can I say, it seems to me that you are having a nutrient deficiency problem. For one, I know the "holes" means that you have depleted potassium. Leaves curling is a lack of trace I think. Well algae is a sign that means things are not controlled yet. Look for seachem potassium, trace, phosphorus, nitrogen

jujubee
09-01-2008, 3:35 PM
thanks, i will take a look at that. what about my light? is 2.08 wpg enough for the swords or should i up it to 2.7 wpg? and with 2.7 wpg would i need some kind of co2 or would flourish excel be enough?

Riiz
09-01-2008, 4:33 PM
thanks, i will take a look at that. what about my light? is 2.08 wpg enough for the swords or should i up it to 2.7 wpg? and with 2.7 wpg would i need some kind of co2 or would flourish excel be enough?

Keep the light at 2.08, until you balance your fert/deficiency issue, more light will make it worse, and swords do fine at 2.0wpg. And as long as you dose enough Excel, you wont need to introduce CO2.

jpappy789
09-01-2008, 5:56 PM
I agree, do not up the lighting as that will probably make it worse at this point...if you are only dosing flourish and excel you are probably not getting all the nutrients you need.

WaywardSon
09-01-2008, 5:59 PM
In addition to balancing out your ferts, more fast growing plants can also help contain / control algae.

rsanz
09-01-2008, 10:31 PM
Not sure about the algae, but in water that is too rich in organic material anubias leaves may develop holes in them, so you must look after the condition of the aquarium. This happens when you don't regularly vacuum the gravel, or overfeed the fish, or a dirty filter, or even if you forgot to change the water for quite some time.

jujubee
09-02-2008, 5:43 PM
what other things i should be dosing with besides flourish and excel? i thought those covered most of the basic nutrient needs. i figured that plus the tabs would be enough.

Riiz
09-02-2008, 5:48 PM
Flourish, tabs and excel, cover your carbon source and your micro nutrients. The only thing your not adding is N-P-K (nitrogen, phosphorous, and potassium), the macros. But if your lightly planted, the fish and their food usually provide N and P, so you might be deficient in K. Which by the way, pinholes or yellowing between green veins is the lack of potassium. If you want to keep using liquids, there is Flourish Potassium available from DFS or Bigal's, or you can go with dry ferts that last a long time.

Starry
09-03-2008, 12:34 AM
It definitely sounds like you need potassium (K). You may also need N and P, but for an easy solution for K, look for something called NoSalt or NuSalt in the baking/spices isle of your supermarkets. It's almost pure KCl and will work well for very cheap. Dose roughly 1/4 tsp per 10 gal after each water change. Flourish potassium is extremely dilute and way way too expensive to use. Flourish N and P may be ok for short term, until you become comfortable and can obtain dry ferts. Keep dosing the Flourish and excel.

Fordtrannyman
09-03-2008, 4:41 PM
Tank Size?
Lighting Type?

Algae Type?

The flora deficiency issues have already been addressed correctly.

jujubee
09-04-2008, 2:18 PM
46 gallons
96 watt coralife power compact

not sure on the algae type. its green and i only really notice it on the glass. pretty much wipes right off. i haven't seen much of an increase in algae over the last few days. plants are beginning to look a lil better. still gotta get ferts to dose N-P-K. where can i get dry ferts?

Fordtrannyman
09-04-2008, 5:46 PM
Lighting upgrade requires more balance.

Yeh, I suspect all nutrient deficiency for the plant health.
Here are a couple places on-line that a lot of hobbyists use.
I recommend the first one first.
http://www.greenleafaquariums.com/aquarium-fertilizer.html
http://www.bestaquariumregulator.com/ferts.html

The Green algae on the glass is either GSA or Green dust spores.
Contributors are obviously lack of nutrients, but also lack of C02.

jpappy789
09-04-2008, 7:49 PM
GDA will not go away with an increase in nutrients or Co2. But I believe GSA still will...