Female Dogs..

[bettagurl]

Does anyone here keep 2 or more female dog together? Esp. of the bully variety? I have one pit at the moment, a GSD and a pom mix, all female.. the shepherd is about to go over the rainbow bridge soon, her health is failing..
Tink(my pit) loves her, and she cannot play with Sparkles(the pom) without hurting her, or just making her fluffy butt mad.

I have been looking around on petfinder at male dogs who could possibly replace Dutch for Tink.. But I found this little girl that I would love, and she looks a lot like Tink:
http://www.petfinder.com/petnote/displaypet.cgi?petid=11728094
http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/ll24/bettagul/tinkyop.jpg
http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/ll24/bettagul/000_6417.jpg

But I am worried about them both being female, males will posture and fight, but will rarely hurt each other severely when trying to find out who is boss.. females will kill each other.

Anyone have experience keeping 2 female pitties together?

[Alan R]

I used to. I had a pit and a rott together. The rott, which i still have, is the sweetest most non aggressive rott in the world. The pit had jealousy issues and was a major bully. We always had to keep them seperated despite the fct she was always fine with other dogs. sadly, one day she got jealous of my oldest daughter. didn't bite, but we thought she was going to. We found her a new home the shortly after.

Other than that. We have kept a variety of female dogs together successfully for many many years with no issues.

[Alan R]

That's a very good looking pit BTW.

[bettagurl]

Pits are notoriously 'needy', and get jealous a lot.. MY girl doesn't get jealous over humans getting the attention, she absolutely knows humans are the boss, but she does try to nose her way between us if we are paying too much attention to a new dog.


Our shepherd and Tink got into a fight, it may just be the shepherd, she started fights with other females that she lived with before.

I have to say, if pits are such huge monsters with amazing jaws(they actually have less bite force than a german shepherd) then how come our 13yo shepherd kicked Tinks butt? Tink was fighting back with everything she had, but couldn't do any damage because Dutch is all hair, Tink got shredded by that old lady.

[judgemax]

when it comes to pits, you should only ever keep male/female pairs. they can, ( i know sometimes it doesn't happen, general rules are that it does) and will fight. I have kept many combinations of am staffs, pits, and at some point, there is even tussles between females and males. the female you have now, accepts the other dogs, because she was brought in last. That is her pack. I would be very careful on whatever dog you introduce, esp if its not a male at this point. I wish you luck in whatever you decide!

If you do decide to try and introduce another female. I can give you some great tips, and pointers on proper integration. just send me a pm, and i will gladly help:) ~julz

[judgemax]

Pits are notoriously 'needy', and get jealous a lot.. MY girl doesn't get jealous over humans getting the attention, she absolutely knows humans are the boss, but she does try to nose her way between us if we are paying too much attention to a new dog.


Our shepherd and Tink got into a fight, it may just be the shepherd, she started fights with other females that she lived with before.

I have to say, if pits are such huge monsters with amazing jaws(they actually have less bite force than a german shepherd) then how come our 13yo shepherd kicked Tinks butt? Tink was fighting back with everything she had, but couldn't do any damage because Dutch is all hair, Tink got shredded by that old lady.

I would assume that fight was a dominance issue? Most likely tink was just seeing if she could, not that she was actually gonna.

[snoopy65]

There is a pecking order with dogs. They see their owners as "the lead dogs" male and female. Right now the shepherd is next in the pecking order and Tink understands that. When the shepherd goes, Tink will naturally fill the pecking order spot that the shepherd left. Hence any female you bring in Tink will let know that she is the lead B**ch.

[bettagurl]

Well the fight between the girls was actually an accident, Dutch (as big as she is) rolled Tink over while play, into a rose bush... Tink snapped to let her know it hurt, but Dutch was not going to be corrected by a lower female, and lunged. I was able to separate them before anyone got seriously hurt, they were only together about 30 seconds(I had to get my little one out of the way, so I grabbed her and put her in).

Oh believe me, I know more about dog 'packs' than most..

If we do try this out, I'll talk with you, Julz.. but I'm also very interested in this boy: http://www.petfinder.com/petnote/displaypet.cgi?petid=11904425

[bettagurl]

That's a very good looking pit BTW.

Thank you, I think she is.. I like her build better than the blocky huge headed dogs they call pit bull terriers.

[Dangerdoll]

BG.... please heed this caution. If you are going to get another dog, please please please make sure it's a male. I also thought it would work with 2 females and I couldn't be more wrong. I have 2 saint bernards (1 female, 1 male) and a doberman (female). They were fine together when they first met. A bunch of loves all around. The doberman is submissive by nature and the saints, well, they are your typical lounge around big fat furballs. One day, the girls got into it. It wasn't bad... just a tussle. A couple weeks later.... another fight. The male seemed to feel sorry for the dobe, being the youngest, he was very confused and hung out with her for the rest of the night. Then there wasn't a thing for a couple of months. One day, all heck broke loose. There was blood on the dobe's neck... not too much but it was serious enough to freak me out. I cleaned her up... the next fight, a few weeks later required the dobe to get patched up by the vet with stints in her back end and neck. It was awful. $800 was a small amount I would pay for her life but I did not want to go through it again. If not for her confidence, but for mine. We put up permanent gates in the house. The dobe gets the hall and upstairs, the saints get the downstairs and basement. We have had them separated for 3 years now.... one day, the saints came in after an outing when we forgot to close the dobe's gate and low and behold, I never saw a saint run faster. Took her by the neck again. It's tough breaking up dog fights, especially powerful ones.
so long story short, if you are able to go ahead and get a male, do it. The female is cute and all... but just the chance of there being problems would be enough to stop me. You're already doing a wonderful thing by adopting..... get a boy.

[bettagurl]

BG.... please heed this caution. If you are going to get another dog, please please please make sure it's a male. I also thought it would work with 2 females and I couldn't be more wrong. I have 2 saint bernards (1 female, 1 male) and a doberman (female). They were fine together when they first met. A bunch of loves all around. The doberman is submissive by nature and the saints, well, they are your typical lounge around big fat furballs. One day, the girls got into it. It wasn't bad... just a tussle. A couple weeks later.... another fight. The male seemed to feel sorry for the dobe, being the youngest, he was very confused and hung out with her for the rest of the night. Then there wasn't a thing for a couple of months. One day, all heck broke loose. There was blood on the dobe's neck... not too much but it was serious enough to freak me out. I cleaned her up... the next fight, a few weeks later required the dobe to get patched up by the vet with stints in her back end and neck. It was awful. $800 was a small amount I would pay for her life but I did not want to go through it again. If not for her confidence, but for mine. We put up permanent gates in the house. The dobe gets the hall and upstairs, the saints get the downstairs and basement. We have had them separated for 3 years now.... one day, the saints came in after an outing when we forgot to close the dobe's gate and low and behold, I never saw a saint run faster. Took her by the neck again. It's tough breaking up dog fights, especially powerful ones.
so long story short, if you are able to go ahead and get a male, do it. The female is cute and all... but just the chance of there being problems would be enough to stop me. You're already doing a wonderful thing by adopting..... get a boy.
Good lord, how did you get those two apart? I only got my two apart because I had a metal dolly I forced between them.

After a bit of reading yours, and others, accounts I don't think it is worth the risk..I mean it could work out great, but that's would be a near miracle.
I really like Boss, but I haven't had the time to get to know him, so I'll probably end up with some dog from the place I'm going to volunteer at.
But this could be a while, since I will not add another pup to the household until Dutch passes on, I don't want to add any stress to her.. and she'd probably take the new dog's head off.

[Dangerdoll]

it was hard, BG... and there was 2 of usbreaking it up.... a few bites along the way but the dobe got the worst of it

I think you are making the right decision...

[bettagurl]

it was hard, BG... and there was 2 of usbreaking it up.... a few bites along the way but the dobe got the worst of it

I think you are making the right decision...

I can imagine the dobe would get hurt the most, the breeds people think are so horrible really aren't, I would rather be on the receiving end of a dobe attack than a St...

Yeah, I really have never seen (in person) 2 female pitties living together. There are 2 ambull/pit mix females down the street, sisters, who are separated. Very irresponsible owners, as well.. The father called his 10 year old daughter in the break these big girls up.. she has nice scars from it, she threw a blanket over one dog, and it grabbed the first thing that it's mouth touched, which happened to be her leg. Then he allowed one of these females to breed, kept the son, didn't fix him, then he had puppies with her.. which most had to be put to sleep after they sold them as pure bred pit puppies(inbred husky/ambull/pit mixes :headshake2:) from severe seizures and health issues.
And they are looking for a stud for the other, very unstable(brain damage from being hit by a car), one. You should see their dog's parents.. mom was a bag of bones female pit, dad was a huge ambull home alone with their small kids and a baby.
Had to rant... These people make me itchy just thinking about them.

[judgemax]

I have two males here, that i can allow out during supervised play time, But its just not easy. As DD said, keeping them separated is not always easy. No matter how hard you try, things happen!

Boss Hog is to cute:)

[bettagurl]

I have two males here, that i can allow out during supervised play time, But its just not easy. As DD said, keeping them separated is not always easy. No matter how hard you try, things happen!

Boss Hog is to cute:)
Oh I know, I just want to go there to hug him.. he looks like he could use some foster care for a while though.

I will probably end up talking with you anyway Julz,if I adopt another bull type in the future, you have more bully experience than I do.

[Blueiz]

You are recieving excellent advice here bettagurl. There is one thing I want to say regarding dogs, not only pits, but all dogs that can fight and cause damage. I see that you have a very loving nature towards animals and that is great. What I dont want to see is you make excuses for the way a dog acts and in turn get yourself or one of the other pets hurt. Dogs are powerful pack dogs and will fight til the death. I have had a pit before, and altho he was the most loving gently dog, one day after he was about 7 months old, he turned on my boxer that had been with him since he was a pup. He almost killed my boxer even tho my boxer was bigger than he was. I could have said that my boxer teased him into a fight, but that wasnt the case. My pit fought by his choice.

Sorry for rambling, I just think from reading your posts that you need to realize that the dogs can and will fight unprovoked and you need to be very cautious in how you proceed. And it is well known and documented that pits are more prone to this becasue of there genetic make up and personalities than some other breeds of dogs. Until you see a REAL fight first hand, you cannot imagine the power involved in it.

[judgemax]

Oh I know, I just want to go there to hug him.. he looks like he could use some foster care for a while though.

I will probably end up talking with you anyway Julz,if I adopt another bull type in the future, you have more bully experience than I do.

I will look forward to it!

I also have safety pointers on how to break up fights with bully dogs. It easy to pull apart other breeds, however bullies need handled differently, and will gladly share that info with you to! It never hurts to have that knowledge! I agree with blue, to see a true dog fight( with bullies esp.) Is A truly scary thing. I wouldn't wish anyone to have to see one. my oldest male was attacked by a rottie, and I had to get them apart by myself.I DON'T EVER WANT TO SEE SOMETHING LIKE THAT AGAIN.

[bettagurl]

You are recieving excellent advice here bettagurl. There is one thing I want to say regarding dogs, not only pits, but all dogs that can fight and cause damage. I see that you have a very loving nature towards animals and that is great. What I dont want to see is you make excuses for the way a dog acts and in turn get yourself or one of the other pets hurt. Dogs are powerful pack dogs and will fight til the death. I have had a pit before, and altho he was the most loving gently dog, one day after he was about 7 months old, he turned on my boxer that had been with him since he was a pup. He almost killed my boxer even tho my boxer was bigger than he was. I could have said that my boxer teased him into a fight, but that wasnt the case. My pit fought by his choice.

Sorry for rambling, I just think from reading your posts that you need to realize that the dogs can and will fight unprovoked and you need to be very cautious in how you proceed. And it is well known and documented that pits are more prone to this becasue of there genetic make up and personalities than some other breeds of dogs. Until you see a REAL fight first hand, you cannot imagine the power involved in it.
Believe me Blue, I have witnessed more real dogfights than most. one was between 3 ambull mixes, all over 60 lbs. The fight between my dog's was very serious. Had to pry Dutch off of her. I understand dog's a bit more than you seem to think.. I would make no excuses for their fighting, they are dogs, and it's hard to explain my knowledge of the breed and of dogs in general, I have quite a bit of free time on my hands that I use spending time with my 'pack' and researching dog behavior and ect.

I do know that pitties have it hardwired into their brain, they are great fighters, and quite a few will jump at the chance to fight. Not all, but a lot.
And unprovoked does happen, as I have witness as well. Our shepherd stalked and attacked our other dog who wasn't even looking at her.

If you'd like to know anything else, Blue, don't hesitate to ask me, or if you have any knowledge you think I don't know about dogs I won't ignore it :)

[bettagurl]

I will look forward to it!

I also have safety pointers on how to break up fights with bully dogs. It easy to pull apart other breeds, however bullies need handled differently, and will gladly share that info with you to! It never hurts to have that knowledge! I agree with blue, to see a true dog fight( with bullies esp.) Is A truly scary thing. I wouldn't wish anyone to have to see one. my oldest male was attacked by a rottie, and I had to get them apart by myself.I DON'T EVER WANT TO SEE SOMETHING LIKE THAT AGAIN.

Hey, you can PM it to me or post here, I was only able to break up my friends' dogs by having 4 of us doing it, large bully breeds are not easy to break up at all. Even though after the had a break from each other they cleaned each other's cuts. The noise was almost as disturbing as the sight of them ripping each other apart.

My only problem is, if one of my dogs were to be engaged in a fight with a strange dog, I have a good chance of being bitten too.

[Blueiz]

Believe me Blue, I have witnessed more real dogfights than most. one was between 3 ambull mixes, all over 60 lbs. The fight between my dog's was very serious. Had to pry Dutch off of her. I understand dog's a bit more than you seem to think.. I would make no excuses for their fighting, they are dogs, and it's hard to explain my knowledge of the breed and of dogs in general, I have quite a bit of free time on my hands that I use spending time with my 'pack' and researching dog behavior and ect.

I do know that pitties have it hardwired into their brain, they are great fighters, and quite a few will jump at the chance to fight. Not all, but a lot.
And unprovoked does happen, as I have witness as well. Our shepherd stalked and attacked our other dog who wasn't even looking at her.

If you'd like to know anything else, Blue, don't hesitate to ask me, or if you have any knowledge you think I don't know about dogs I won't ignore it :)

Thanks for the offer BG. I wasnt asking for anything, just sharing my thoughts. My experience working with the local animal shelter and animal rescue, taking animals in and fostering them has left me with a great bit of knowledge and hands on experience myself. Having to rehome one of my own dogs who turned for no apparent reason has also left its mark on me as well.

Good luck