View Full Version : Are we stunted?
rinmouse
09-22-2008, 7:59 PM
Hey all,
These are my angels. Notice that one is quite a bit smaller. They were all around the same size when I got them ~1 year ago. Someone suggested that they might be stunted? What do you think? I think the half black may be :( Likely to have any long term effects? Are my angels likely to get much larger? Sorry, it was really hard to get a pic of the marble as he's mostly black, even his eyes.
Blueiz
09-22-2008, 8:09 PM
Have they been in your 65g since you got them, if so I dont see why they would be stunted.. You may have just gotten bad stock.
rinmouse
09-22-2008, 8:16 PM
they were in a 55g before. With the same other fish (though there used to be 4 cories and 5 lemon tetras) I didn't get them when they were tiny tiny though. They were about quarter-half dollar sized bodies.
rich311k
09-22-2008, 8:31 PM
Must be the genetics, they had plenty of room to grow.
rinmouse
09-22-2008, 9:14 PM
do they all look ok?
Dangerdoll
09-22-2008, 9:54 PM
that halfblack is beautiful
Blueiz
09-22-2008, 10:05 PM
They look great to me..
jaylin
09-22-2008, 11:04 PM
that halfblack is beautiful
I'll second that. I really like the coloration on that fish.
rinmouse
09-23-2008, 6:29 AM
Well that makes me feel better. Now if they've all been together for a year or so, longer maybe, and there hasn't been any mating action, is there likely to be?
Well that makes me feel better. Now if they've all been together for a year or so, longer maybe, and there hasn't been any mating action, is there likely to be?
Mating will happen soon enough. Angels tend to be choosy about their partners. My gold angels were only 7 months old when they started pairing off much to my surprise. They spawned when they reach 8-9 months old although they ate the eggs later on.
On another note, you cannot expect all fish to grow equally. Each fish is unique. They will grow differently. Some grow faster than the others. There are plenty of variables that influence their growth rate.
rinmouse
09-23-2008, 7:00 AM
hmmm... to be honest, I was hoping if there hadn't been any action by now it wasn't likely to happen. I just like my happy tank the way it is. Sigh... though I really need to get the cory some buddies. I actually got my 55g from a guy who had a community setup with a few angels, he ended up separating them from everyone, not because he wanted to raise the fry, but because they went insane.
Blueiz
09-23-2008, 7:53 AM
It appears that you have 3 females judging by the distance between the two bottom fins. This isnt a sure fire way to sex the angels, actually the only sure fire way is to see them spawn and have fertile eggs. However considering they havent paired and are adults, Im pretty positive they are all females..
rinmouse
09-23-2008, 8:27 AM
perfect. There is some occasional nipping/chasing between the marble and the pearlscale. But other than that, no aggression which is just the way I like it. Had some bad luck with a group of four juvie angels before this. Even though they were all the same size, there was some serious aggression issues, ended up returning one after it harassed one of the others to death, and after I returned it, another took up it's place as 'bully'. These guys seem to get along great.
Do you think they are likely to get much bigger? they aren't nearly as big as some angels I have seen.
Star_Rider
09-23-2008, 9:36 AM
I would say no they are not stunted but.. how large are the angels.
remember stunting is an issue where there are several contributing factors.
tank size/water volume is only one factor.
rinmouse
09-23-2008, 1:35 PM
The marble and the pearlscale are about 3.5" from tail to nose and about 5-6" from top to bottom including fins. The half black is a little more than half of that. I mean, they've certainly grown a lot in the time I've had them, but they are not nearly as big as some of the angels I've seen.
saram521
09-23-2008, 8:36 PM
Angels get to 6" which is about the size of music cd. Your angels will probably get close to that size if not all the way up to it. Female angels will sometimes "pair up" where one female lays eggs and then the nonfertile eggs are eaten. This tricks ppl into thinking they actually have a m/f pair, but sometimes females do this when there isn't a male around, so if you see 2 of your angels in spawning behavior, wait to see if the eggs are viable in a couple of days. They'll all turn white if they're no good.