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JL15219
10-16-2008, 10:05 PM
What tall grass like plants can be grown in 1.8wpg?

247Plants
10-16-2008, 10:18 PM
Dwarf sag might do ok.

Bk828
10-16-2008, 10:21 PM
val

JL15219
10-16-2008, 10:29 PM
I tried vals once they just died but I only had 1.3 wpg maybe i can try again I haven't tried because I did not think I had enough light for them........And dont the dwarf sags stay pretty small? I want something more for the backgrounded........

Fishy_Fun
10-16-2008, 10:41 PM
I wouldn't recommend sags but vals might do alright with almost 2 watts

JL15219
10-16-2008, 10:46 PM
how much light do dwarf sag need? what type of val would be good in this light or does it matter? I also have african cichlids......

DAVIDFBT
10-16-2008, 10:59 PM
I have had Sags growing in 1.5 WPG. I grow my Vals in 2.2 WPG, but I've seen them grow in lower light.

Bk828
10-16-2008, 10:59 PM
vals would be great with africans since they will not eat it. Almost any val will grow at that light

gmh
10-16-2008, 11:01 PM
I think most vals would do pretty well in that lighting and they also like harder water than most aquarium plants. I would lean toward jungle val as it is thick and may be more resistent to getting uprooted or munched by the fish.

JL15219
10-16-2008, 11:01 PM
what about some grassy crypts? or should I stick with the vals?

JL15219
10-16-2008, 11:04 PM
I think most vals would do pretty well in that lighting and they also like harder water than most aquarium plants. I would lean toward jungle val as it is thick and may be more resistent to getting uprooted or munched by the fish.

What about corkscrew vals I am asking because petsmart sales them for .99

Bk828
10-16-2008, 11:41 PM
what about some grassy crypts? or should I stick with the vals?

with africans stick with val, anubias, ferns. These are 3 plants the fish wont eat at all.

Sounguru
10-17-2008, 3:13 AM
I have Valensia Americana that I harvested from a local lake growing like the weed it is in a tanks with just gravel no ferts or co2. Understand though I do not vaccum the gravel for a variety of reasons and it is a larger size rock. I have it growing in another tank with sand and smaller gravel and it does not seem to do as well.

http://www.stopactionphoto.net/images/mature%20tank%20pics2.jpg

The tank is 15 gallons withan 18 watt standard FL over top nothin fancy. The larger gravel allows stuff to sift to the bottom to turn into sludge and feeds the roots. It also makes it easier for the Val to send off shoots. All of the vals uyou see started from only 3 plants that did not reach the top of the tank.

JL15219
10-17-2008, 3:26 AM
I have pool filter sand in mine....So you dont think vals will do good in that?

aquaholic
10-17-2008, 4:42 AM
Sounguru are you sure thats americana? doesnt look like jungle vall americana.
Anyways when you have too much and are ready to sell make sure to list some here I would deffinatly be interested:))

DAVIDFBT
10-17-2008, 11:14 AM
Sand is fine, I use it with my corkscrew vals.

jpappy789
10-17-2008, 11:21 AM
Vals should do just fine in your setup.

Sounguru
10-17-2008, 1:26 PM
I have pool filter sand in mine....So you dont think vals will do good in that?

The tank I have Sand in they are not growing as fast nor spreading as quick... My swords love it though.:)

Sounguru are you sure thats americana? doesnt look like jungle vall americana.
Anyways when you have too much and are ready to sell make sure to list some here I would deffinatly be interested:))

According to the Washing State Dept of Ecology the only Val we have up here, and it is an invasive, is Valensia Americana. It is only found in a few lakes on the west side where I live and I just happen to be with in driving distance of one. It is commonly called Jungle Val, but I have seen it called Corkscrew Val, Eel Grass, and Tape Grass to name a few.

fishorama
10-17-2008, 1:46 PM
I have crypt spiralis in lower light than that, ~ 1wpg. It's about 20 inches tall. I've only had it for several months but it's spreading a bit. I like it.

I also have crypt balansae but it doesn't seem really happy at that same 1wpg light, alive but not making runners, just leaves.

AshK
10-17-2008, 2:29 PM
Onion plants grow well in low light and have tough leaves. There's a "dwarf" version that has long narrow leaves. They grow substantial root structures.

JL15219
10-19-2008, 4:01 PM
I thought that some onion plants required a little more light...