Anyone have a loach tank?

[zeppelin3k]

Hello.

I am in the works of clearing out my 200 gallon for a loach theme tank. I was wondering if anyone here had a big loach tank and a few pics if possible.

Right now I have 3 big peices of driftwood(not sure if i am going to use it), a bunch of slate rocks, and some plants i plan on putting in there. My loach list is growing, I already know I have to get my hands on a few chain loachs. well anyway.....

stock list so far is

30-35 clown loachs, 2"-5.5"
6 geto/rostrata loachs 2"
3 polka dot loachs 2.5"
1 blue botia 6.5"
3 yoyo loachs 2"-4"
1 tiger loach 2.5"
1 skunk loach 2.5"

non loachs
1 Golden wonder Killi
1 porthole flagtail catfish
5 boesemani rainbow
3 Madagascar rainbows
1 Syno cat
4 red rainbow fish


Looking for decor ideas.

I will post pics when I eventually get everything put together

Thanks for looking!

[plaalye]

Have you visited loachesonline? I would suggest posting this there for expert loach advice. IMO that's very overstocked. I'd consider fewer species but more of each. maybe just clowns and Kubotai or rostrata. Axe the tiger and the skunk for sure.

[zeppelin3k]

Have you visited loachesonline? I would suggest posting this there for expert loach advice. IMO that's very overstocked. I'd consider fewer species but more of each. maybe just clowns and Kubotai or rostrata. Axe the tiger and the skunk for sure.
Why? I know that they are "aggressive" but I have never seen 1 case of them being aggressive, same goes with the blue botia. If something does happen I will take care of the problem. Right now the tiger is in a tank with 20 or so clowns, and the skunk with 10-12 clowns. I have had the skunk for years and the tiger for about 8-9 months

[plaalye]

They may continue to be fine, going against conventional behavior, or not. I don't keep them because I don't have a proper tank for them, often referred to as a "grr tank". Recommendations can only be made by the typical behavior of a species. I also don't keep clowns as my largest tank is 75 gal. I would again suggest posting your Q at loachesonline. There are folks there with large tanks and lots of experience.

[zeppelin3k]

Alright, thanks alot!

[krytan]

Even for a 200g thats a lot of clown loaches, IMO you are way too overstocked.

[evelyn80]

:iagree: to many clowns heres what u could do instead

10 clowns
20 sids(y.sidthemunki)best loach ever!
8 blue botia
8 boosemani rainbows
something for a centrepeice this tank needs 1 mabye a flagtail fish?(not that cat u listed)

the stock list u had was very inappropriate just because its a bigger tank dont mean u can put what ever u want in there. what equipment do u have(filters, heaters, etc)

[zeppelin3k]

:iagree: to many clowns heres what u could do instead

10 clowns
20 sids(y.sidthemunki)best loach ever!
8 blue botia
8 boosemani rainbows
something for a centrepeice this tank needs 1 mabye a flagtail fish?(not that cat u listed)

the stock list u had was very inappropriate just because its a bigger tank dont mean u can put what ever u want in there. what equipment do u have(filters, heaters, etc)
I want a clown loach tank not a sid/botia tank. Ive seen tanks with 40+ clown loachs, thats not counting all of the other fish. Bigger clowns too, not small like mine. I have an aqua clear setup, 2 stealth heaters, 250W

I am not looking for stocking advice, just want ideas on decor. Looking for some pics if possible

[evelyn80]

ok well do between 15 and 20 clowns then but be prepared to have more space as they all ight grow and over crowd the bottom of the tank heres what u could do then'
15-20 clowns
15 boosemani rainbows
5 red rainbows
1 golden wonder killi
and something as a centre peice im not sure though

for decor lots of plants and lots of spacious over hangs something that gives the loaches a dark hiding spot andcan fit them all in. make sure theres lots to they like lots of nooks and crannies to hide in

[plaalye]

How many Aquaclears? For a tank that size and that kind of overstocking you should have something like 2 large cannisters + an AC + a powerhead or two for water movement.

[aspear]

i'm surprized lupin isnt here yet...lol

[zeppelin3k]

ok well do between 15 and 20 clowns then but be prepared to have more space as they all ight grow and over crowd the bottom of the tank heres what u could do then'
15-20 clowns
15 boosemani rainbows
5 red rainbows
1 golden wonder killi
and something as a centre peice im not sure though

for decor lots of plants and lots of spacious over hangs something that gives the loaches a dark hiding spot andcan fit them all in. make sure theres lots to they like lots of nooks and crannies to hide in

I am going to do about 40-50 clowns. I just want ideas on decor and pics. I am not looking for stocking advice sorry, I already know what I want. The 30 or so clowns that I have now will be the last of the small ones i buy, now its only 5"+ clowns that will go into the tank.


How many Aquaclears? For a tank that size and that kind of overstocking you should have something like 2 large cannisters + an AC + a powerhead or two for water movement.
*Ocean Clear, sorry, not aqua clear my bad. I do have an FX5 too but its broke, the motor is shot in it. SO as soon as I get my fx5 back that will be on there too. I have 2 large power heads too
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b281/Rollinkaddy/Picture165.jpg

[evelyn80]

excuse me clowns get 12+ inches big EACH!!! that would be very irresponsible on your part to buy 40 clown loaches! if you have 30 now stick with them but dont buy more! what kind of filtration do u have on this?

[zeppelin3k]

Show me 5 diffrent pics of a 12" clown loach, dude, i know more than you sorry. Your not helping me one bit, just please lay off your not going to change my mind. I have been keeping clowns for over 5 years now. You were still in pull-ups. I KNOW how big they get, I KNOW how long it takes. And trust me, if all 50+ make it to 12"+ you will see them for sale, no doubt about it. I will be happy if I see 1 of them make it to 12"

do me a favor, find me 5 diffrent pics of a 12"+ clown loach. Until then dont post here, your not helping. I am looking for people eaither with pics or ACTUAL experience not what they have read on here over the last week. I have had bigger tanks, bigger fish, more expensive fish than most people. Dont believe me? Chanllenge me, I have pics of "most" of the fish I have kept in the last 2 years. I have been a memeber of MFK for that long also. I am trying AC out for smaller fish, looks like I maybe going back to mfk.


Thanks

[evelyn80]

5? done

edit gimme a minute i got the same photo twice

[evelyn80]

here

[Philosophos]

In case anyone has forgotten, clown loach get to about 12 inches in the wild. Some sources say larger. B. almorhae (yoyo's) do better in groups of 5+ IME - makes them less shy.

oops... didn't see the 2nd page. Ya... 1 clown loach. That or eat some of them as they grow out; Asians cook up loach all the time. I think I've got a recipe for khuli soup around here some where.

[evelyn80]

haha u know im right wait till our loach master comes and tells ya:banhim:(not lupin)

[zeppelin3k]

In case anyone has forgotten, clown loach get to about 12 inches in the wild. Some sources say larger. B. almorhae (yoyo's) do better in groups of 5+ IME - makes them less shy.
they get to about 16" in the wild. Was thinking of more yoyos too. I have one big female, pushing 4.5"

[evelyn80]

no loach master?? u havent met lupin then... and do u honestly think u can keep 40 fish of that size in a 200?? and yes i know i put the same pic twice i said that and put another 1.

[Philosophos]

Show me 5 diffrent pics of a 12" clown loach, dude, i know more than you sorry. Your not helping me one bit, just please lay off your not going to change my mind. I have been keeping clowns for over 5 years now. You were still in pull-ups. I KNOW how big they get, I KNOW how long it takes. And trust me, if all 50+ make it to 12"+ you will see them for sale, no doubt about it. I will be happy if I see 1 of them make it to 12"

do me a favor, find me 5 diffrent pics of a 12"+ clown loach. Until then dont post here, your not helping. I am looking for people eaither with pics or ACTUAL experience not what they have read on here over the last week. I have had bigger tanks, bigger fish, more expensive fish than most people. Dont believe me? Chanllenge me, I have pics of "most" of the fish I have kept in the last 2 years. I have been a memeber of MFK for that long also. I am trying AC out for smaller fish, looks like I maybe going back to mfk.


Thanks

I'll do better than 5 links. Go pick up Herbert Axelrod's "Atlas of Fresh water Fish" and look it up. They get that big naturally. If they don't in aquaria, it's likely because their growth is stunted and they die of related complications. If you're going to turn out to be another of these sociopathic fish keepers, that doesn't bother to look up their own relevant information, then hurry up and stuff a flower horn in there too. Maybe post some gory fish death pics and tell everyone how cool it looks.

[evelyn80]

haha finaly some back-up thx phil ;) basically any site will tell how big they get and not to do what your doing.

[msjinkzd]

I think this thread is finished. I would caution you to all remember to keep responses from being personal attacks in anyway.