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chatters
12-21-2008, 9:06 PM
Been awhile since I've asked this question.

I have a 5gallon Eclipse Corner.

Looks like this: http://images.shopping.msn.com/img/6/2987/31/4028519.jpg
Dimensions: 15.5"L x 10.5"W x 14.5"H.
Capacity: 5 gallons

http://www.petsmart.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2752372


This tank has been stable for over 2 years now.
current stable rates (25% water changes ~every week)
nitrite : 0.0
nitrate: 10.0ppm
Ammonia: 0.0
pH: 7.8
Currently have 502 heater as well.

I did have 3 Red minors in this tank, but they have sadly passed away.

Right now 1 otto remains from the two. Hes been alone for about 7+ months.

Currently looking for idea of what I can stock in this. I won't be upgrading the tank until about a year from now (which will be about a 29g long, could go larger if the wife lets me :) ).

Also looking at getting some drift wood and live plants (not sure what yet just thinking ground cover and 1 background plant) Currently have a 10W Florescent 51000k Light.

Currently the only idea's I think that will fit in the 5gallon is a betta, not sure if he will bother the otto?

I'd rather not go a betta, if I can go other. Been banging my head as a 5gallon always seems like a challenge to stock.

cam191919
12-21-2008, 9:09 PM
its a pretty small tank, and considering ottos like to be in groups maybe he should be relocated. i would personally go shrimp but you have a few more options

rich311k
12-21-2008, 9:09 PM
You could go with shrimps. A dwarf puffer could be fun. There are small rasboras, though they can be hard to find.

Damodred
12-21-2008, 9:11 PM
Check here (http://www.aquariacentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=85275) and here (http://www.aquariacentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=97203). Also, don't forget the pics when you decide! :)

chatters
12-21-2008, 9:14 PM
its a pretty small tank, and considering ottos like to be in groups maybe he should be relocated. i would personally go shrimp but you have a few more options
Yeah he had a buddy, not sure why the other one didn't make it. But otto's can be pretty picky.

Damodred
Yeah I read both of those before, I was looking at
Stocking 3
5 neons- one of the "perfect" community fish. Neons stay small, but they like to be kept in groups.
12 ghost shrimp... a favorite of 5 gallon tanks :D

but it seemed way to much for a 5g. Also mine being a corner and already having a otto.

I've never had shrimp, assuming they don't factor to much into stocking??

cam191919
12-21-2008, 9:15 PM
i keep least killifish, some of my favorite fish. IME you could keep quite a few in a 5 g, but they breed faster than guppys

chatters
12-21-2008, 9:17 PM
wish I could find one of these little guys.

http://www.fishbase.org/summary/speciessummary.php?id=22509

http://www.fishbase.org/images/species/Bobri_u3.jpg

Damodred
12-21-2008, 9:25 PM
Oooh, those little guys are gorgeous! I've never seen them before... Let me know if you ever find some for sale online! As far as the neons and shrimp being a lot for your tank, you could always add the neons with your Oto (if you don't decide to rehome it) without the shrimp. Alternatively, if you rehome the Oto you could add 6 shrimp instead of a dozen.

Damodred
12-21-2008, 9:34 PM
Oooh, look here! http://www.franksaquarium.com/nanofish.htm

calivivarium1
12-21-2008, 10:06 PM
I would recommend taking the oto into the LFS and taking a look at these fish: Sparkling Gourami (Trichopsis pumila), Celestial Pearl Danios (Danio margaritatus), Scarlet Badis (Dario dario), Clown Killifish (Pseudepiplatys annulatus), or perhaps some microrasbora species such as those found at franksaquarium.com.

Shrimp are another possibly. THere are quite a few different species of shrimp available nowadays from ghost shrimp to cherry shrimp to neon yellow shrimp.

chatters
12-22-2008, 1:00 PM
Say I keep the oto,

Would 5 neons work?
Or should I just look at a possibility of a beta?

I'll have to look around and see if I can find any micro rasbora. Found a bunch of amazing looking ones online, but haven't had a chance to really hunt for any.

evelyn80
12-22-2008, 1:23 PM
u could do 5 otos and call it day. they dont eat regular flake food though so u would need to get them alagae wafers are fresh veggies ;)

OldMan47
12-22-2008, 3:44 PM
If you want to keep the oto, you could still add some Heterandria Formosa, aka least killiefish. They are not kiliies but livebearers and are easy to care for. I have a nice sized colony of them going in a 10 gallon along with some pygmy cories and all is well.
A mature male here
http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll251/Oldman1947/Heterandria/Maleright1024.jpg
and a mature female here
http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll251/Oldman1947/Heterandria/femaleupright1024.jpg
The female isn't much bigger than the male but I caught her closer to the camera. They reach an adult size of under an inch.

ChilDawg
12-22-2008, 3:50 PM
I agree with least killies. I've had mine for months, and they haven't come close to overrunning their 10g.

chatters
12-22-2008, 6:42 PM
Ok Think I figured out a couple options, will have to look around and read up more.
Understanding that these fish will not stay in the 5g forever. :P

Option 1:
1 Oto
5 Neons

Option 2:
1 oto
1 betta

Option 3:
1 oto
5 least killiefish

does option 1 seem to be pressing it?

OldMan47
12-22-2008, 7:32 PM
I would expect 5 neons to be alright in that little tank with proper filtration. They would be easier to find than the Heterandria.

mslagle
12-22-2008, 9:33 PM
Lone peacock gudgeon?

chatters
01-13-2009, 7:38 PM
Ok, I've been stocked up for about 2 weeks. With the 5 new neons.

But have run into something odd. I've been doing water changes 4 in total.

On the 2nd to last I had ratings of
Ammonia .25
Nitrate 5
Nitrite 0
Ph - 7.9 (Steady for a year).

Tonight I tested before the water change (like normal)
Ammonia 0
Nitrate 20
Nitrite 0

So I did a 40% water change.
After the change I figured I would do a test, just wondering how well the change was.
Ammonia 0
Nitrate 20
Nitrite 0

now I was like.. how? I just changed half the water, so I tested the tap. Nitrate 0
so I tested the tank 2 more times about in between 10 and 20.

So I am confused.. I assume I had a mini cycle which I was expecting. But I can't seem to get the nitrates to drop with a wc? :confused:

anyways here are some pics of the setup. The neons are semi active, they go around the bottom of the tank. They are crazy during feeding ( I feed small amounts of flake ). And the Tank Temp is at 79. Not sure why they stay under the heater near the left. (Sorry about the date on the photos)