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cjtabares

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Ok i have a 100gal(72x18x18) tanks.
Right the the inhabitance are:
5 Blue/Green Chromis (Chromis viridis)
2 Abalone (Haliotis sp.)
6 Super Tonga Nassarius Snail (Nassarius distortus)
4 Fighting Conch (Strombus spp.)
10 Snails Plus 4 tiny ones i have seen today
10 Hermit Crabs

I know i want:
Scotts fairy wrasse (Cirrhiabrus scottorun)
Yasha Goby (Stonogobiops yasha)
Yellowhead Jawfish (Opistognathus aurifrons)
2 Ocellaris clowns (actinicola ocellaris)
and in a year or so a Green Mandarin (Synchiropus splendidus)

I am still unsure if i want a Yellow Tang. I really like wrasse and goby so any interesting species would be great. And anything else that is unique and interesting would be great. If there is anything here that you don't think would work let me know thanks.

And for coral. I have a Nova extreme pro 72'' T5 fixture 468 watts 6-39 watt 10,000°K, 6-39 watt 460 nm actinic. I was told because of how shallow my tanks is there should not be a problem with almost any coral is this true?

The coral i wanted are:
Bubble Coral (plerogyra simusa)

Glove Polyp (Clavularia sp.)

Candy Cane Coral (Caulastrea furcata)

Brain Coral Trachyphyllia (Trachyphyllia geoffroyi)
or
Brain Coral, Wellsophyllia (Trachyphyllia radiata)

http://www.liveaquaria.com/product/prod_display.cfm?c=597+321+429&pcatid=429 Tube Coral (Tubastraea sp.)

Colony Polyp (zoanthus sp.)

Frogspan Branching Coral (Euphyllia paradivisa)

Hammer Branching Coral (Euphyllia paranchora)

I would also like to try a sps branching type coral if there is one ok for beginners and will work with my lights.

And some inverts i want to add are:

If they will be ok with my light or are not to big
Crocea Clam (Tridacna Puellaris)
or
Squamosa Clam (Tridacna squamosa)

2 Scarlet Skunk Cleaner Shrimp (Lysmata amboinenesis)

And maybe a feather duster worm

Any suggestions would be great on anything if anything wont work or is not good for beginners i don't want to be in this to hurt anything. If you think their are any cool animals i might like any help will be taken.

Thanks
 
Everything sounds good to me.. which is rare around here. I see no problems with any of your fish or coral selections with your lighting.

My opinions on just a few of the items you listed:

Bubble Coral - very hard to do now a days. That is one of the odd corals that used to be a staple in every reef tank in the 80's and early 90's.. then people started learning about water chemistry and skimmers and all of the sudden bubble corals started dying and now are considered a "difficult" coral to care for because of their sensitivity to flow and requirements for high nutrient levels in the tank.

Yasha Goby - love this goby, but don't grow very big and are a difficult one to get established.. once established they seem to do fine though.

Both the Scott's Fairy and the Jawfish are known jumpers.. just be warned. Otherwise both are great fish. Look at a Christmas wrasse, green leaf wrasse, different leopard wrasses, yellow wrasse for others that are good in community tanks. Stay away from larger non reef safe ones like the Lunare Wrasse.. had experience with a few of those.. one word.. vicious.

For an SPS "branching" coral you can't go wrong with the Bali Green Slimer.. it was my first SPS coral and it is about impossible to kill and grows faster than almost any other coral in my tank.
 
I don't see a problem with any of your future stock list, provided that you take it very slowly, other than the following: Do you have a sand bed deep enough for the jawfish, and do you have a refugium to feed the mandarin? The skunk cleaners are a good choice for your tank, and the feather duster will be fine too as long as the tank is established enough to feed it.

I know very little about fighting conch, or abalone, so I'm unable to advise if they are a good choice for a beginner. How long has your tank been set up?

As far as corals, you have some pretty good lighting going on there for a tank that is only 18" deep IMO. I would think that you could keep every coral you have on your list-- most softies and lps will be no problem for you. :) Be aware that tubastrea are not photosynthetic and will require target feeding of each polyp for survival. The only thing I'm unsure of are the clams... they need a lot of light, but it may be possible for you to keep one high in your tank. I haven't kept one so reallly can't advise. Same for sps species, although I'd say you may be able to get away with something like montipora digitata.
 
My experience with clams is the "high light" requirement you usually see is overblown vs the calcium and phytoplankton requirements the need. I have seen clams live quite well for many years under Solaris G and H series lights in the sand on a 150G tank as long as the calcium was kept above 400 at all times.
 
This was not a list i just put together. I have been planing and setting up this tank for over a year now. I didn't want to put things in and not have them work together or with my reef. I tried to do this right. I do have a fuge it is in my 30gal sump and i am trying to find a way of using my 55 for a fuge and just making the 30gal the sump but i dont know if i have the room. My sand bed is between 3'' and 5'' so i think that is good for the jawfish.

And what do u think about the yellow tang i hear they can be aggressive. I realy like the look of tangs and with how long the tank is i think they will be happy. Is there another tang that would be ok in my tank. I like the hippo tang but do not want to deal with them getting all stressed out. I also really like the purple tang but think they are more aggressive then the yellow tang.
 
wow i really like the female Leopard Wrasse (Macropharyngodon meleagris) but on foster&smith it say expert only on all the leopard wrasses. Why is this and i see u have some ace25 are they that difficult?

I read that they do good in groups if i did get some would i need more then one and could they be all female or one male and a few female?
 
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Another one of those type of fish, like the Yasha Goby, it is a "hit or miss" with Leopards the first 30 days.. You definately want to have your LFS hold the fish for 7-14 days after arrival to make sure it survives and eats. My first african leopard didn't make it, died within the first 24 hours (silly me bought it the day it came into the LFS and didn't wait to see if it was healthy), but second one has been very hardy and my Potters leopard wrasse has been even better. My second african leopard took about 4 days before it came out of the sand initially.. which is common for those fish, but my Potters only took 1 day before it came out and was behaving good and seemed acclimated.

I believe if you put them in groups, they like the harem grouping like anthias, meaning 1 male to 3-4 females. It isn't required at all.. but would really add to the "OMG those fish are AWESOME!" factor. ;)

Edit: As far as tangs go.. first question, do you want one that looks like a yellow/purple with the long skinny beak on them or do you want one with a rounded face like the hippo/freckled/clown tangs? I always group tangs into those 2 types, then go from there.
 
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Ace25 said:
My experience with clams is the "high light" requirement you usually see is overblown vs the calcium and phytoplankton requirements the need. I have seen clams live quite well for many years under Solaris G and H series lights in the sand on a 150G tank as long as the calcium was kept above 400 at all times.
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This is great to know... HN and I are in the process of planning a 125 and are really interested in keeping one. Thank you.
 
i like the look of both tangs but thinking about a harem of the Leopard wrasse 1 male and 3 female is very intriguing. If i skip the tang would that work in my tank or would it even work with any species of tang? If i did do the leopard wrasse should i skip the Green mandarin, do they eat the same thing? Or should i skip the idea of the leopard wrasse right now since i am a beginner? And thanks for all the help
 
I would definately recommend a leopard wrasse over a mandarin. IMO they are much easier to care for. Yes, they both eat pods so having both in a tank wouldn't be a good idea. Wrasses do eat many other things as well and live fine doing so, I can't say the same for mandarins, even if you do get it to eat prepared foods.

A Tang is your decision.. for me, I don't like them, at least not in a tank smaller than 8'. They never seem happy is smaller tanks, usually always stressed out no matter which tang it is, but put any tang in a 8' tank and the stressful behaviour you observe in a 4' or 6' tank seems to go away and they behave much more naturally, peacefully cruzing around the tank nibbling at rocks all day long vs zipping end to end in the tank all stressed out.

Why not a dwarf angel of some type instead of a tang? To me, they have similar behavours.. but dwarf angels are smaller and seem to behave better in smaller tanks.
 
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