copper proteinate

[bass n ri]

i bought shrimp pellets but one of ingredints is copper proteinate is it still ok for my craws?

[redfishblewfish]

I say this with great ignorance….I’m an animal person and Copper Protienate is used in cattle and pigs as a supplement for copper (think of it as a vitamin). Now for aquariums (and this is where the ignorance comes in), we all know the negative impact of copper on our tanks…why is that in a food for fish? I’m at a loss. I would think we would want to avoid copper unless it was in one of the medicines we were using.

[bass n ri]

its the 3rd to last ingredent which means theres a small trace of it?

[Riiz]

I wouldnt use it, seems risky to introduce a food with copper, because eventually it could build up in your crawdad's tissues or the aquarium. I would purchase another food without copper or is meant for inverts, imo.

[Lupin]

I say this with great ignorance….I’m an animal person and Copper Protienate is used in cattle and pigs as a supplement for copper (think of it as a vitamin). Now for aquariums (and this is where the ignorance comes in), we all know the negative impact of copper on our tanks…why is that in a food for fish? I’m at a loss. I would think we would want to avoid copper unless it was in one of the medicines we were using.
This issue has long been debated particularly where invertebrates are involved as copper does have a great impact on the health of the invertebrates and several fish species particularly the scaleless ones if dosed in high concentration.

Copper proteinate is chelated copper. Like chelated iron found in most plant ferts, the toxic effects of the copper have been negated thus making the food products safe for use with the exception of bottles containing high concentrations of copper sulfate to destroy the algae, "unwanted" snails and other aquatic pests otherwise the latter's purpose is lost anyway.lol I do not think the amount of copper proteinate involved will harm the crayfish as the concentration is very low otherwise the company (if it wants to keep its reputation intact) wouldn't have manufactured the foods with copper proteinate included at all or risk being sued for loss of pets due to the copper involved if in the first place, they are manufacturing the foods for profits as much as advertise it specifically for the animals that they labeled suitable with as such. What brand is this?


its the 3rd to last ingredent which means theres a small trace of it?
The order in which they are arranged from a list of ingredients has nothing to do with the trace amounts in the foods.

[pik01]

i always thought that items in the list of ingredients were listed in order of concentration, the product having the most of the first item and the least of the last item.

[Lupin]

i always thought that items in the list of ingredients were listed in order of concentration, the product having the most of the first item and the least of the last item.
As far as I can see, this is just a random order unless they can offer the guaranteed analysis of the contents which a lot of products don't. I could be wrong about my last paragraph but I just think the order has nothing to do with trace amounts.

[Riiz]

i always thought that items in the list of ingredients were listed in order of concentration, the product having the most of the first item and the least of the last item.


Lupin is right, they "do" list the major ingredients in order of quantity, but for traces or unmeasurable amounts, they are randomly listed at the end of the list.

[pik01]

ahh, learn somethin new every day :)