View Full Version : Snail safe and toxic chemicals-Needs updating
Lupin
01-22-2009, 12:19 AM
Can someone please add more meds to the list? It'd would help a lot and it hasn't been updated lately.
There are conflicting reports about methylene blue and its toxicity. Will have to ask someone if he can spare me more MTS and pouch snails so I'll test it myself in a spare bucket.
http://www.applesnail.net/forum3/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=17851
Snails
Safe meds & chemicals - those that are individually safe and tested
Melafix
Pimafix
Albendazole, active ingredient in edible form
Tetracycline, active ingredient
Maracyn Plus by Mardel, active ingredients: sulfadimidine and trimethoprin
Levamisole hydrochloride
Jungle Fungus Clear
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Toxic meds & chemicals
Some of the older Maracyns
Copper, active ingredient
Jungle Fungus Clear
Clout
Flubenol, active ingredient
Potassium dichromate, active ingredient
Potassium permanganate, active ingredient (again, based on reports)
Malachite green, active ingredient
Jungle Tablets
Erythromycin
Flubendazole
Trichlorfon (dylox, neguvon, masoten, metriphonate)
Coumaphos
Formaldehyde
Parricide D
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"Iffy" List (some bad reports, some reports of no ill-effect). Use these with caution.
Prazi-Pro - reported ill-effects on Planorbids and nerites, but not apple snails
Quick Cure-a combination of malachite green and formalin ; Has been reported to work without issues although malachite green has records for killing snails being the active ingredient.
Fenbendazole
Methylene Blue
how about fenbendazole? I have used 0.1 grams per 10 gallons and I've experienced no loss in shrimp or snails, but planaria are dead within 48 hours.
how about fenbendazole? I have used 0.1 grams per 10 gallons and I've experienced no loss in shrimp or snails, but planaria are dead within 48 hours.
Thanks, Pik! I've added it.
btw I'm surprised to see flubendazole on the toxic list. The article I read on using fenbendazole to rid the tank of hydras and planaria stated that flubendazole should work (though the author was unable to obtain and test it, resorting to fenbendazole instead).
I have seen flubendazole mentioned as a medication against planaria, but it is very difficult to find here in the United States.
It's in the 3rd paragraph on this article. Planaria and Hydra Elimination in Shrimp Tanks (http://www.fshfanatic.com/?p=134)
Still, it's untested afaik. I'm just wondering.
I looked up two sites about it and one complained her MTS were never seen again after dosing with flubendazole. Better than putting it in safe category though. Maybe you could test this one using MTS and pond snails if you find this med, Pik?
I'd have to try and get my hands on some flubendazole and then figure out the dosage. I'll look into it, but don't hold your breath :(
I'll try to search again for this one. They're hard to find here as well.lol
Methylene Blue
Captaincaveman9 helped me on this and tried the experiment. He overdosed the pond snails with methylene blue. After 48 hours (I think), the snails are still alive so I guess the methylene blue goes in the safe category unless someone steps up to prove otherwise.
Last I tried with MTS, MTS remained alive but they're nearly indestructible that I did not go for this result as they can lock themselves from the toxins rather easily compared to other species.
List updated.
Sounguru
01-25-2009, 4:09 AM
Isn't quick cure just Methylene Blue? if so I can vouch that snails will survive the recommended dosage and maybe a little over.
Quick Cure is formalin and malachite green. Could go under "Iffy" category I think as malachite green is one of the active ingredients.
lorindaleigh
01-25-2009, 7:38 AM
The Jungle fungus clear tank buddies tablets are safe for snails.
The Jungle fungus clear tank buddies tablets are safe for snails.
Hi Lorin,
Which snails has this product been tested to? Thanks for sharing.:)
I'll sticky this in the meantime to gather more information until such time it can be taken off. We need more updates so if anyone has experiences, please share here.
lorindaleigh
01-29-2009, 7:10 PM
Hi Lorin,
Which snails has this product been tested to? Thanks for sharing.:)
I'll sticky this in the meantime to gather more information until such time it can be taken off. We need more updates so if anyone has experiences, please share here.
It was tested on 3 apple snails. I've used it twice now. 4 days apart as instructed. I called them to make sure that I didn't just have some super tough snails lol and they said that it was invertebrate safe.
Ahh good! Thanks for sharing, Lorin. You're a star.:thumbsup:
shawnhu
01-30-2009, 3:05 PM
I didn't see Kordon Rid Ich+ on there, as it contains Formalin and Malachite Green.
I noticed that the list that you have there, contains both the active ingredients, and the trade name of the meds as well, (Praziquantel is on there, but not PraziPro, or Jungle's Parasite Clear which contains an array of 4 actives, including Praziquantel and Metro)
I just wanted to say that this is a great thread, and it's much needed for emergencies. I can only suggest that if we can split it into Trade name followed by active contents, and then perhaps "link" the actives to it's purposes and proper dosage if one wants to use it seperately.
After a brief talk with Donya of Applesnail.net regarding my situation, we've pinned down praziquantel as the culprit for obliterating all my nerite snails.:( I've updated the list. I feel so lost with my stupid mistake. I had an inkling before this somehow I feel something is wrong with my goldfish tank but can't figure out what it was after dosing praziquantel. The goldfish and apple snails were obviously fine from the treatment since apple snails can tolerate prazi very easily but I noticed my nerites started slowing down and then died over the course of 6 days. I tried daily water changes by as much as 60% but no, I am such a total failure.:wall: