Reef LED system impossible? I think not!

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Why do people think a reef LED system is impossible? It isn't, anything is possible with a little knowledge and testing. If Solaris can do it, why can't regular people with a little electrical knowledge and a wad of cash do it? Solaris uses LEDs that are NOT made for reefs, they are general purpose LEDs designed for nothing but to provide light. Sure, they use PWM to control the lights in order to simulate a night/day envinroment, but how hard is that? I used a friend's source-code with permisson to create a similar program(except without an LCD screen LOL!) http://uctrl.net/w/User_project:Reef_tank_lights fir the source code(still in development[don't use the one on the site])

btw... I don't really have a reef tank... LOL!!!... but I am getting one soon(as in a few months hopefully)
 
I would love to see some LED setups for reef tanks...soon I hope. The existing lighting available seems to me, to be energy hogs. I think the application of LEDs for a reef would have many benefits. As for science behind it, way out of my league but I will be watching the post to see the discussion. Thanks for starting this thread.
 
I agree with fishieness. These systems, numbers-wise, compare to a single-ended MH lamp that has another glass shield placed in front of it (which is redundant and unnecessary and simply cuts down on PAR). This results in somewhat less PAR than the comparable MH lamp, albeit with still substantially less energy used. That is why halides are often the first choice--simply because they are more intense.
 
For DIY’ers, LEDs will continue to be assembled, tested and improvements found, as the technology improves.

For commercial use, unless someone can challenge the patent held by Orbital, no LED units will be available for sale. My understanding is that Orbital has no interest in manufacturing / selling lights….I think they just want to license the technology. They put Solaris out of business.

Orbital patent that squashed Solaris (and probably ready to pursue the smaller manufactures next):

http://www.google.com/patents?id=mwWAAAAAEBAJ&dq=marine+aquarium+LED
 
Actually, they haven't gone under yet, from what I've seen. It has halted their production, however, until the lawsuit is decided. The sad part is that Orbital has attempted a very broad patent that will step on a lot of other precursors' toes. Unless they manage to negate the other companies' uses (which occurred well prior to the patent), then they *shouldn't* stand a chance. There are several others that could easily preempt them. Sadly, though, knowing the clout of large companies, they will probably win. It can be a crooked system.
 
I am not a patent attorney.

I know nothing of the LED technology and its use in aquarium lighting.

Disclaimers out of the way, if prior art existed and/or LED lights (for aquarium use) were being manufactured prior to the filing date, or if the use of LED lighting to use in aquariums was “intuitive,” than the patent is rough toilet paper. Unfortunately, for Solaris, or any other company to continue producing their products, because the patent office and the examiners did a **** poor job, they will have to blow money fighting the issue. In this case, the deeper pockets win.
 
redfishblewfish said:
I am not a patent attorney.

I know nothing of the LED technology and its use in aquarium lighting.

Disclaimers out of the way, if prior art existed and/or LED lights (for aquarium use) were being manufactured prior to the filing date, or if the use of LED lighting to use in aquariums was “intuitive,” than the patent is rough toilet paper. Unfortunately, for Solaris, or any other company to continue producing their products, because the patent office and the examiners did a **** poor job, they will have to blow money fighting the issue. In this case, the deeper pockets win.
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Exactly, toilet paper clogging the engines of progress.

Unless they hold the "technology" patent of the "LED" itself, it is just strong arm tactics.
 
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