View Full Version : Facebook owns you!
Cheech
02-16-2009, 5:18 PM
Check out their new terms of service. (http://consumerist.com/5150175/facebooks-new-terms-of-service-we-can-do-anything-we-want-with-your-content-forever)
Make sure you never upload anything you don't feel comfortable giving away forever, because it's Facebook's now. Even if you close your account.
kkkkyle7
02-16-2009, 5:25 PM
I saw this on Perez's website, but what could they take? Just pictures?
Cheech
02-16-2009, 5:34 PM
^^^ anything you upload . pics, videos, notes, etc etc .. Any creative work an artist puts on FB belongs to them once it's upladed to their site.
Hooked Newbie
02-16-2009, 5:39 PM
Gah!!! All my drunk pics are now their's?!
Wait, so do they retain liability for anything I may have done those nights? ;)
stezatois
02-16-2009, 5:41 PM
haha they should. As for creative works, once created then its already legally belonging to the creator so how can someone else own something thats not legally theirs in the 1st place?
Well that's ghetto... Time to remove pics from facebook.
Reefscape
02-16-2009, 5:51 PM
haha they should. As for creative works, once created then its already legally belonging to the creator so how can someone else own something thats not legally theirs in the 1st place?
Thats not strictly true...A lot of sites, when you upload data ( pics etc etc ) you actually transfer the rights to the site....
J double R
02-16-2009, 8:06 PM
Well that's ghetto... Time to remove pics from facebook.
they already own em....
stezatois
02-16-2009, 8:13 PM
bummer
Winged
02-16-2009, 9:54 PM
Great. Time to remove my good photos from Facebook. And my notes that I want to own. Of course, I guess they technically already own them. Grr...I think a little warning would've been nice.
cam191919
02-16-2009, 10:25 PM
its all part of uncle bens scheme for a hostile world takeover...
x916krew
02-16-2009, 10:28 PM
Never had an account and never will..
vampie
02-16-2009, 10:29 PM
Never had an account and never will..
Ditto.
J double R
02-17-2009, 8:34 AM
Great. Time to remove my good photos from Facebook. And my notes that I want to own. Of course, I guess they technically already own them. Grr...I think a little warning would've been nice.
wouldve been.. but it was in the previous TOS that the TOS could be modified at any time in any way without any notification to the members. nothing was required.
everyone is making a big stink about this... i don't see the issue. it's not like theyre making a big debut of a huge profit scheme using the info, they merely said that they could use it. if people are so paranoid about the content they "own", then why is it being posted publicly on the internet anyway? you might own those pics... but a little bit of right-click "save as", and I own it too.
oh, and i dunno about anyone else, but i don't pay a dime for facebook. we get to use their bandwidth and storage space for free... IMO, why are people acting like they have any real rights at all? if anything, we should be happy such a widespread and huge networking site doesnt require us to pay for it.
lindsey crashed
02-17-2009, 4:00 PM
wouldve been.. but it was in the previous TOS that the TOS could be modified at any time in any way without any notification to the members. nothing was required.
everyone is making a big stink about this... i don't see the issue. it's not like theyre making a big debut of a huge profit scheme using the info, they merely said that they could use it. if people are so paranoid about the content they "own", then why is it being posted publicly on the internet anyway? you might own those pics... but a little bit of right-click "save as", and I own it too.
oh, and i dunno about anyone else, but i don't pay a dime for facebook. we get to use their bandwidth and storage space for free... IMO, why are people acting like they have any real rights at all? if anything, we should be happy such a widespread and huge networking site doesnt require us to pay for it.
yay. maturity..!
and i very much agree...
UncaBret
02-17-2009, 4:10 PM
I have heard that it only covers stuff that is 'public'. If you don't have your account open to everyone you are okay. Is that right?
J double R
02-17-2009, 4:39 PM
"Furthermore, it is important to note that this license is made subject to the user’s privacy settings. So any limitations that a user puts on display of the relevant content (e.g. To specific friends) are respected by Facebook."
http://www.thestandard.com/news/2009/02/16/facebook-we-have-never-claimed-ownership-members-content
Cheech
02-17-2009, 4:41 PM
HERE"S AN UPDATE (http://www.cnn.com/2009/TECH/02/17/facebook.terms.service/) , CNNs take on it, with Facebook's response to the bad rap.
The way they stand now, Facebook's terms of service claim that the company does not have ownership over content, yet that it does have "an irrevocable, perpetual, non-exclusive, transferable, fully paid, worldwide license (to)...use, copy, publish, stream, store, retain, publicly perform or display, transmit, scan, reformat, modify, edit, frame, translate, excerpt, adapt, create derivative works, and distribute" material as long as it doesn't violate the privacy preferences set by the user.
It's not a big deal to most people... Still doesn't make it right.
J double R
02-17-2009, 4:46 PM
is there really a right or a wrong in regards to a public, free domain? that's my point. if we were to actually pay for the services we use, the bandwidth we eat up posting all those stupid "25 odd things" notes, making sure everyone in the world knows what we're doing that day, THEN i could see a valid argument as to where they are in the wrong.
as it stands now.. what else can one expect if they set their privacy settings to "public"? public means public.
it's no different than, say, the TOTM or POTM contests here.. submission of a photo makes it the property of aquariacentral, no?
Inka4040
02-17-2009, 4:55 PM
Way to stick up for The Man JRR!!! Three cheers for Captain Stick in the mud!
All joking aside, I have to agree with Jon on this one. The internet is after all, public domain, and though it may have been cool to use facebook as a social networking site before the adult world caught on, now we unfortunately have to deal with things such as exercising common sense and *gasp* a bit of judgment before plastering pics of our epic weekends up for the world to see. Quick rule of thumb, if you don't want your parents, possible employers, or kids (present or future) to see it, maybe you should refrain from putting it on the web. On the other hand, my account is locked on mega super ultra hyper private so enjoy the pics of my awful behavior if you have the access.
jpappy789
02-17-2009, 5:01 PM
I see no issue...they might as well have owned them earlier...
Cheech
02-18-2009, 11:43 AM
Power to the people (http://consumerist.com/5155549/facebook-reverts-back-to-old-terms-of-service)
In the wake of people's unhappiness with the new TOS, facebook has decided to revert back to its old TOS...
BreellaBlue87
02-18-2009, 1:31 PM
Power to the people (http://consumerist.com/5155549/facebook-reverts-back-to-old-terms-of-service)
In the wake of people's unhappiness with the new TOS, facebook has decided to revert back to its old TOS...
Only until they revise the new ones so the wording is better.