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tsdpurdue
02-25-2009, 2:02 PM
Compact Flo
https://www.drsfostersmith.com/product/prod_display.cfm?pcatid=13733&prodid=18608&catid=3

It is 260 watts. I have a 55 gallon aquairum that I am wanting to convert to reef. Will this be enough for all types of corals and anemones? I was also lookign at the

t5

http://www.drsfostersmith.com/product/prod_display.cfm?pcatid=16770

Which one would u buy and why, would help me out greatly. Just want to hear what you think?

Amphiprion
02-25-2009, 2:31 PM
I would look into better fixtures (or retrofit options) if you want to keep a broad array of organisms. The Tek T5 fixtures work very well if you are intent on having a fixture. If you don't mind some DIY, the IceCap retrofit kits are the best bang for your buck in terms of sheer intensity. If you have enough of the right kind of bulbs, both will allow you to keep virtually anything you want, but for a price.

One alternative that would give you a good deal of options (but still some limitations) would be the Nova Extreme Pro fixture, which features 6 bulbs. That would allow you to keep many different types of corals and many anemones. Just don't expect it to outperform the other options I mentioned.

ToeJam
02-25-2009, 3:07 PM
I would look into better fixtures (or retrofit options) if you want to keep a broad array of organisms. The Tek T5 fixtures work very well if you are intent on having a fixture. If you don't mind some DIY, the IceCap retrofit kits are the best bang for your buck in terms of sheer intensity. If you have enough of the right kind of bulbs, both will allow you to keep virtually anything you want, but for a price.

One alternative that would give you a good deal of options (but still some limitations) would be the Nova Extreme Pro fixture, which features 6 bulbs. That would allow you to keep many different types of corals and many anemones. Just don't expect it to outperform the other options I mentioned.

:iagree: Check out marine depot lighting and look at Metal halides the reflector +ballast combo by Icecap is pretty good price and building a hood is easy for a tank like that. Bow fronts..not so easy and I had a hard time with that one.

Here is the ice cap package at marine depot :
http://www.marinedepot.com/ps_AquariumPage~PageAlias~lighting_metal_halide_ic ecap_system_reflector.html



But the wood canopy is cheap to make for sure... I am a lover of Birch wood but you can do oak or maple... stain it and seal it to the colors you desire.

It may cost about 70 bucks total with wood glue,stains, seals, finishing nails, and or Mylar if you add that., and hinge for the access panel.

You look at prices for prefab its 300 bucks or more...you can make your own and have it look awsome for way less to.

the nice part about building your own canopy is you can alter it for future upgrades... fixtures you can't or barely can..=(

fsn77
02-25-2009, 4:23 PM
I'd pass on both. PC lighting just lacks the intensity and bulb variety to justify spending the money. T5 HO lighting is only as good as the individual reflectors utilized on each bulb. Good quality light fixtures are not cheap, and if you want maximum flexibility in what you can stock your reef tank with, a low end fixture is not going to be adequate to suit your needs.

I would look into the suggestions mentioned above about a more middle to upper end fixture, or assembling / purchasing retrofit pieces / a kit that'll do much more for you in the long run. I bought the pieces to retrofit T5s into our canopy and saved quite a bit of money compared to the price of an equivalent fixture.

tsdpurdue
02-25-2009, 5:26 PM
How do the ice cap ballasts work. Would I just need to make a hood to mount it in? or is there more involved like wiring and other things like that?

Amphiprion
02-25-2009, 6:23 PM
It does involve wiring, but it is very simple and is as easy as following the schematic included in the instructions. FWIW, it includes a wiring harness, which plugs directly into the ballast. The only thing that must be wired are the endcaps.

ToeJam
02-26-2009, 10:41 AM
It does involve wiring, but it is very simple and is as easy as following the schematic included in the instructions. FWIW, it includes a wiring harness, which plugs directly into the ballast. The only thing that must be wired are the endcaps.

Yah I bought a new Scanner/Printer I can see if i can find the old simple diagram that came with the ballast box.

But its extremely simpe... Two screw ends on the end of the Caps where the bulbs go in.... I forgot about the color patter...

I believe white and black go to the bulb and green is the one for grounding. The ground is optional...if you have a grounding source like a plumbing pipe you can use a copper band type clamp to clip it to it... not necessary...I know plenty who dont even use that extra ground at all.

Hope this info helps on getting an idea on how it works... I suggest wall mounting the ballasts to...

and always remember this rule: DRIP Loops are a must... the loops should always be below the connections...so if water does get on the wire for some reason..the water collects at the end of the loops...

If you look at your cable lines outside...on the telephone pole you can see all of them have drip loops before going into the tap...or on your house splitter...they should be mounted and have these drip loops before entering the splitter. *Disclaimer: Comcast better have put drip loops in*

If you dont have drip loops fyi on the cable and its not mounted or have a grounding line attatched to a grounding rod or power pole..you can call and complain about a poor install and want a redo done at no cost. =)
This will get you new lines on your house =p*ex cable guy here)

got2envy
02-28-2009, 12:12 AM
Go with the Nova extreme pro...petmountain.com got my 36" with a 10% coupon for $276 free shipping :P I have had the 4 bulb fixture over a 40B amd a 40 long with no problems but no SPS only softies and LPS..the threads are around here somewhere lol if you want to see pix
what size tank is it for? 55g?
pay a little extra, you won't regret it...the lighting is what makes a reef tank

tsdpurdue
02-28-2009, 10:34 AM
yes it is for a 55 gallon

tsdpurdue
02-28-2009, 11:11 AM
Would it be better to have 216 wats of a T5 or 260 watts of a Compact Fl

I have heard that the T5 would be stronger, but how can that be? Is it becasue of the reflector and more light is being directed towards the aquarium?

fsn77
02-28-2009, 12:17 PM
The T5s would be better than the PCs. Watts is not an indication of light output, only the amount of energy consumed to light the bulb. A PC bulb is bent back on itself, which is not particularly efficient, as it blocks a portion of the light being emitted and causes more heat to build up. Yes, the quality of the reflectors a good T5 set-up employs are a major contributing factor in them being what they are. T5s aren't the cure-all end-all of reef lighting, but an overall better choice than PC lighting in situations where T5s can be used.

Amphiprion
02-28-2009, 5:48 PM
Would it be better to have 216 wats of a T5 or 260 watts of a Compact Fl

I have heard that the T5 would be stronger, but how can that be? Is it becasue of the reflector and more light is being directed towards the aquarium?

The reflectors do make a huge difference. But even without reflectors, T5s are simply more efficient. In other words, the emit more usable light per watt of energy used than compact fluorescent bulbs. That is why they can be brighter while using less energy.