Leaning to Cipangopaludina chinensis instead of the supposed Pila conica...Sheesh!

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I just received 16 specimens of Cipangopaludina chinensis for further studies and collection. I had to ask further questions from the farmer and he said as far as feeding is concerned, they never eat plants making them perfectly suitable for planted tanks. They are very slow eaters.

Here they are.:)

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Oddly this angle makes it look like a brown Pomacea diffusa.
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Those are cute ones.

...they look exactly like some Trapdoors I used to have.
 
vampie said:
Those are cute ones.

...they look exactly like some Trapdoors I used to have.
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Hmmm...That's funny...You know I looked again and they aren't what the applesnail.net described as Pila conica.:confused: It's weird the farmer said they lay white eggs above the waterline which Pila conica does as shown here.
http://www.applesnail.net/content/species/pila_conica.htm

http://www.pondkoi.com/trapdoor_snails.htm

If these aren't the snails I am looking for, dang! I'll just ask him again and get the pictures this time. I never realized I can find trapdoors here either. I just made a fool of myself again just when I was excited I finally hooked the elusive Pila conica. Back to the ol' drawing board.:nilly: On the other hand, I added a new species to my collection anyway.*flushes pink*

http://66.218.69.11/search/cache?ei=UTF-8&p=trapdoor+snail-philippines&rd=r1&meta=vc%3Dph&fr=yfp-t-501&fp_ip=PH&u=www.in.gov/dnr/files/CHINESE_MYSTERY_SNAIL.pdf&w=trapdoor+%22trap+door%22+snail+philippines&d=P_YI7J2uSV2j&icp=1&.intl=us
DISTRIBUTION: The Chinese mystery snail is native to Burma, Thailand, South
Vietnam, China, Korea, Japan, the Philippines, and Java. It has been introduced into the
United States in approximately 27 states. The Great Lakes have not gone unaffected by
the Chinese mystery snail, Lake Michigan and Lake Erie have had introductions.
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Yeah, I became very curious after taking another look at those pictures, I really do believe they're just Trapdoors.

That's too bad. I know you've been wanting Pila conica for some time, no?
 
Yes, I am, Vampie! I've been looking for these snails since the invasion of the accursed P. canaliculata. I'm so disappointed I failed again. I didn't know trapdoors can be found in my area. That's embarassing. Will give him the photos this time so he can figure out the correct snails.
 
Either way lups.. i like em :) and just another species added to your ever growing number. Before too long you are going to be the snail expert... now where do we find a new loach mod :p
 
I feel kinda bad about this now. One moment, you're like "Oh, I'm so happy, I finally found them!", and then a couple of minutes later, some guy comes along and says "Hey, those look like trapdoors!", and then you're all "Arghh!"
 
I just talked to my grandfather. He said these aren't the locally called "iggy" (Pila conica) they used to eat when I described to him the shell structure. They call these ones in pics as "bagunggong" (trapdoors) locally much to my dismay. To further make me depressed even, he said the Pila conica are rarely found nowadays. You'll have to look harder for them and my best bet would be mosquito infested remoted areas. Back to the ol' drawing board indeed.:nilly:
 
Some more info.:)
http://www.applesnail.net/content/snails_various.php

Viviparidae have a worldwide distribution.
Subfamily Viviparinae:
- Viviparus: Eastern North America and most of Europe.
- Tulatoma: endemic in Coosa River, Alabama, USA.
Campelominae or Lioplacinae:
- Campeloma: Eastern North America.
- Lioplax; Eastern North America.
Bellamyinae:
- Bellamyia: Africa, India, southeast Asia.
- Cipangopaludina: east and southeast Asia, and as an exotic elsewhere.
- Notopala: eastern Australia. Larina; northeast Australia.
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