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Mcdaphnia
12-17-2002, 12:32 AM
Has anyone tried this filtration method? It is a DIY inexpensive filter that has been popular in the Hamburg, Germany area for many years. Original German article at http://www.deters-ing.de/ English translation at http://www.aaquaria.com/aquasource/mattenfilter.shtml It was also used for a while in the Cleveland, Ohio area back in the seventies where I discovered it. At one time, most of my tanks were set up with one version or another of this filter. A 600 and three 75's still are. They have been set up that way since the eighties.

It is a thick layer of sponge set vertically against the back of the tank, or an end, or horizontally across the bottom blocking off a small plenum area from which water can be pumped by a power head creating circulation through the sponge matt. This is basically equivalent to a system that has been with us for years, the undergravel filter. It can also be considered equally as a giant sponge filter. Most of us are too new in the hobby to remember, but the first UGF's back in the 60's used a 2" layer of sponge under a thin gravel bed.

One drawback to vertical placement is that algae can grow on the sponge and block intake. Shading it with Java fern in a freshwater tank would be a good idea. You can "sew" a row of monofilament fishing line in dashes across the sponge, each dash providing an attachment spot for a Java fern, Java moss, or Riccia. Rooted plants could grow in it too, with just a shallow slit cut in the sponge to hold the roots.

One other way to run this filter if it's not planted, is with a bubble wand across the back. The entire space across the back forms an airlift and water flows over the top of the sponge back into the tank. Three of my four tanks still set up with the mattenfilter have been converted to powerheads, but I had these filters back when power heads were not yet around. I have a photo of a marine tank that my wife and I set up like this for the Aquarium Beautiful Class in the Cleveland Aquarium Society annual show back in September, 1973.

Anton Wernher
12-17-2002, 12:49 AM
You should add "I have used it" to the poll. I used this setup back when I first started keeping fish. Worked fine, I however found that hobs were far less obtrusive and fit my needs better.

josh
12-17-2002, 11:02 PM
It sounds great. I want to try it, but I have no idea what kind of sponge pad is used... where do you get it from?

I'm really intrigued with this idea. I've never heard of such a thing before. I'm a little skeptical about how well it will work. first for cost effectiveness of space, becuase most people are trying to get as much use of the tank space as they can. Seocondly that you could get water to flow through a big spongy thing (I'm imagining one of those kick board type things you use at the YMCA, or the type of material they use for the noodles you use in a pool)

Buuuut, I want try it on a small tank to see how well it works for me! I just need to know what kind of material you use!

-Josh

Mcdaphnia
12-18-2002, 9:17 AM
The sponge material is the same as in a sponge filter, except that you get the entire pad of sponge that sponge filters would be cut from. There are fine, medium, and coarse sizes. If you use the fine size, it would be best to put a first layer of medium or coarse in front of it, or it will clog too quickly.

In a pinch, fabric stores sell sheets of foam, but you have to be sure it's been stored safely and that there are no mildewcides (arsenic is one) in the product. I have never taken the chance. A store near us used to sell the real stuff, but they changed into an auction house. I haven't looked lately for a new source. The only other one I knew of was two hours drive from me. I haven't tried the internet.

flyfly
06-14-2005, 9:44 PM
wow, any of you guys heard of this?

RTR
06-17-2005, 3:20 PM
Well, as I helped on the Tom's Place translation and had played with it as an alternative DIY filter many moons ago, I have used them, but do not currently (altho I responded to the poll that I do).

I was historically not real thrilled with baseline nitrates using the system, but believe it could be better contolled with a bit of setup modifiction - I'd like to try the sponge sectioned into maybe three pieces for section rinsing at some interval. But I have not tried that variant.