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BorntoReef
04-15-2009, 9:46 PM
!!!STORY TIME!!!
well, just recently, I had a massive die off of fourteen fish.
Do you want me to name them?
4 Black Neon Tetras
Black Phantom Tetra
White Skirt Tetra
Black Skirt Tetra
Neon Tetra
2 Priscella Tetras
2 x-ray tetras
2 angelfish
Wow, I actually counted right!
Anyways, it was due to a combination of Melafix and Pimafix.
It was probably an overdose.
I think you might guess which is new and which is old.
But my main question is, WHAT NOW?? I know I've decided on Angelfish.
But what plants? I'm thinking about Amazon Swords to go in the slate.
Biotope?
Community?
Confusion? Yes.
There is one fish that I'm really in to, it's called a Flag Tail Porthole Catfish.
:help:!Appreciate any input!:help:
!!THANKS!!
tanker
04-15-2009, 11:32 PM
I don't want to sound like a jerk, but your slate tank looks like a junk yard. Looks like a house that collapsed. Will not have good water flow and lots of dead spots. Sorry :(
biggie357
04-16-2009, 7:10 AM
i actually think the slate tank looks sick! it DOES look like a pile of rubble, awesome. sorry about your loss :(, and i hink tanker is right; you will need good circulation through all those tiles.
Fish-Addict
04-16-2009, 7:45 AM
A cory and larger tetra tank.
OR some red tailed sharks in there, they will appreciate the caves, and some larger robust fish because of the sharks, maybe swordtails?
I dont know that is just My opinion
bettabrat
04-17-2009, 2:36 PM
Anyways, it was due to a combination of Melafix and Pimafix.
It was probably an overdose.
Wait you can OD on Melafix & Pimafix? :confused: What were you dosing them for, if you were heavily dosing?
Anyway I actually love the idea of having a school of cories in the slate tank. I like how it looks personally but have no idea about dead spots. Or you could try crayfish or something...they would LOVE those slate "caves"
serissime
04-17-2009, 2:47 PM
Sorry if I missed it, but what size is the tank? I'm having trouble eyeballing it.
Are there any survivors to work around?
Turbosaurus
04-17-2009, 3:00 PM
I like the slate pile. And some amazon swords will really pop bright green up against the dark stone. Put in a couple airstones if your worried about dead spots/circulation. Some jungle vals or crinium or tall crypts like balansae would look nice and be my first choice but if you can't find those, go swords, they're easy to grow and easy to find.
I am a little concerned about the idea an OD of pima/mela killed your fish. Something had to be wrong in the first place for you to think you needed the meds
Also they are so gentle you need to OD 5x pima and 10x mela recomended levels before you'd stress the fish. I htink you've got something else going on.
Hooked Newbie
04-17-2009, 3:26 PM
I like the slate pile. And some amazon swords will really pop bright green up against the dark stone. Put in a couple airstones if your worried about dead spots/circulation. Some jungle vals or crinium or tall crypts like balansae would look nice and be my first choice but if you can't find those, go swords, they're easy to grow and easy to find.
I am a little concerned about the idea an OD of pima/mela killed your fish. Something had to be wrong in the first place for you to think you needed the meds
Also they are so gentle you need to OD 5x pima and 10x mela recomended levels before you'd stress the fish. I htink you've got something else going on.
Do you have a link or reference for these numbers? I'm intrigued.
Turbosaurus
04-17-2009, 3:44 PM
I am speaking from experience, and as it says in my signature- the plural of anecdote is not data- so take it with a grain of salt. I have often ODed both- 10x melafix and 3-5x OD pimafix withuot harm.
That being said, if there was a requirement to treat the fish, then something was already wrong with the fish... what was it? Even lets say I am COMPLETELY wrong and it was the OD that killed them- what made them sick in the first place?
Hooked Newbie
04-17-2009, 4:51 PM
I am speaking from experience, and as it says in my signature- the plural of anecdote is not data- so take it with a grain of salt. I have often ODed both- 10x melafix and 3-5x OD pimafix withuot harm.
That being said, if there was a requirement to treat the fish, then something was already wrong with the fish... what was it? Even lets say I am COMPLETELY wrong and it was the OD that killed them- what made them sick in the first place?
THAT is a very valid question.
Your statement apparently was invalid. Why the need to make it. Thanks for pointing out your signature, I usually ignore them completely. Now I know why.
Your statement apparently was invalid. Why the need to make it. Thanks for pointing out your signature, I usually ignore them completely. Now I know why.
huh?
lets just stick to what was going on in the tank before dosing?
what is your regular maintenance routine? and do you know if the tank was cycled?
as far as where to go with the tank next:
no red tailed sharks those get to be far to big for even large tanks. if you wanted to house them into adulthood you'd need an extra large tank/ indoor pond.
don't know how big your tank is but angels are always beautiful.
as for the "Flag Tail Porthole Catfish"have you done your research? will your tank be large enough for it's adult size? can you set this tank up based on it's biotope and choose any potential tankmates and plants from those found in the biotope?
with all that slate to work with I'd be tempted to set it up for cichlids.
The first thing you ought to determine is if you can avoid what happened last time. What were you treating the fish for? how long had you had them?
were there recent additions that may have brought disease with them? or caused and ammonia spike? do you change your water weekly?
good luck! and have fun getting your tank up and running in it's new incarnation.
cheers-K
Hooked Newbie
04-17-2009, 10:16 PM
huh?
lets just stick to what was going on in the tank before dosing?
what is your regular maintenance routine? and do you know if the tank was cycled?
as far as where to go with the tank next:
no red tailed sharks those get to be far to big for even large tanks. if you wanted to house them into adulthood you'd need an extra large tank/ indoor pond.
don't know how big your tank is but angels are always beautiful.
as for the "Flag Tail Porthole Catfish"have you done your research? will your tank be large enough for it's adult size? can you set this tank up based on it's biotope and choose any potential tankmates and plants from those found in the biotope?
with all that slate to work with I'd be tempted to set it up for cichlids.
The first thing you ought to determine is if you can avoid what happened last time. What were you treating the fish for? how long had you had them?
were there recent additions that may have brought disease with them? or caused and ammonia spike? do you change your water weekly?
good luck! and have fun getting your tank up and running in it's new incarnation.
cheers-K
I agree that much more info is needed from the OP.
I think you may have Red tailed Catfish in mind here... Red tail sharks max out around 6" tops.