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aquachef
04-24-2009, 3:03 PM
Help i have a 20 long freshwater and today i did a water change, like all the water changes I treated the water and all but when i but them back into the tank about a hour later they died!!! What went wrong??:swear::help:

rsanz
04-24-2009, 3:08 PM
You took the fish out of the tank when you did the water change?

I'm afraid I don't quite understand what it is that you did. Some clarification may help with identifying the problem.

Was the temperature matched when you did the WC?

majortank
04-24-2009, 3:17 PM
Usually when something like that happens so close to a water change, you either didn't condition the water, had soap on your hands or something, or the temp of the water wasn't close to the temp of the tank and the tank temp changed... What are the water params? Temp?

cguarino30
04-24-2009, 3:41 PM
what fish do you have? how much water did you change? It's really not possible to answer your question accurately with the information you've given.

Fish-Addict
04-24-2009, 4:08 PM
By "waterchange" do you mean take apart the whole tank scrub it from top to botom, clean absolutely EVERYTHING etc. in tap water, and you cleaned your filter, and the tank?

The fish dying has many pssibilities as to te cause, and I think you should go into more detail of what you did, the tank set up, fish etc. etc.

:)

jm1212
04-24-2009, 6:40 PM
how often do you do water changes?

aquachef
04-24-2009, 10:45 PM
:help: Today i did a water change on my 20gal long. This is something that I do all of the time. But today it was diffrent, after i done all of my cleaning and treatment i added the fish back to the tank and about 30mins later all of my fish was in the tank in the sky what did i do wrong why did they die on me this time around? someone help!!!:confused:

cguarino30
04-24-2009, 10:51 PM
isn't this the same post you just made earlier? We all said we need more details than this.

My guess is that what you did wrong was change all the water. That is a pretty good way to kill your fish. You should only be changing about 20-30% each week, and there is no reason to remove your fish.

Also, I find the title of this post to be obnoxious, I'd advise you do choose something a little less so next time

aquachef
04-24-2009, 11:06 PM
Yes this is the same post but i got called in to my job and i did not get the veiw that was giving! and i changed the title dont be so up tight about it!

aquachef
04-24-2009, 11:08 PM
I got called in to work for a min one of my cooks walked out so they called me in. Well ok i do it the same every two weeks take out all of the water clean the filter,glass rocks the whole nine. but whaen i but them back in 30mins they where gone.

rocker92
04-24-2009, 11:10 PM
you should never romove your fish from your tank. just a gravel vac and an algae scraper. only change 20-30% of your water at a time.

aquachef
04-24-2009, 11:14 PM
you should never romove your fish from your tank. just a gravel vac and an algae scraper. only change 20-30% of your water at a time.


SO DON'T TAKE MY FISH OK GRAVEL VAC AND SCRAPER GOT IT THANK YOU MUCH!:thm:

7itanium
04-24-2009, 11:16 PM
cleaning your filter and thouroughly cleaning your gravel is your first mistake, and changing 100% of the water is the second one...

there is beneficial bacteria in the tank that helps neutralize ammonia, and nitrite... without this bacteria our tanks would need daily water changes

clean the filter no more than once a month.. and only do so with tank water (NO TAP WATER)... and there is really no reason to ever remove the gravel-- you should just vacuum it

combine those practices with no more than a 50% water change weekly.. and your tanks will flourish

also make sure you are using a decent water conditioner.. even if your on well water (there is other things besides chlorine that are bad)

aquachef
04-24-2009, 11:20 PM
cleaning your filter and thouroughly cleaning your gravel is your first mistake, and changing 100% of the water is the second one...

there is beneficial bacteria in the tank that helps neutralize ammonia, and nitrite... without this bacteria our tanks would need daily water changes

clean the filter no more than once a month.. and only do so with tank water (NO TAP WATER)... and there is really no reason to ever remove the gravel-- you should just vacuum it

combine those practices with no more than a 50% water change weekly.. and your tanks will flourish

also make sure you are using a decent water conditioner.. even if your on well water (there is other things besides chlorine that are bad)

THANK YOU NOW THAT HELP ALOT I WILL FOLLOW THOSE STEPS WITH MY 30GAL AND SEE IF IT HELPS THANK YOU MUCH BUDDY!!:dance::)

rocker92
04-24-2009, 11:22 PM
cleaning your filter and thouroughly cleaning your gravel is your first mistake, and changing 100% of the water is the second one...

there is beneficial bacteria in the tank that helps neutralize ammonia, and nitrite... without this bacteria our tanks would need daily water changes

clean the filter no more than once a month.. and only do so with tank water (NO TAP WATER)... and there is really no reason to ever remove the gravel-- you should just vacuum it

combine those practices with no more than a 50% water change weekly.. and your tanks will flourish

also make sure you are using a decent water conditioner.. even if your on well water (there is other things besides chlorine that are bad)
thanks 7, couldnt have said it better myself!!!

7itanium
04-25-2009, 1:43 AM
THANK YOU NOW THAT HELP ALOT I WILL FOLLOW THOSE STEPS WITH MY 30GAL AND SEE IF IT HELPS THANK YOU MUCH BUDDY!!:dance::)

No problem.. anytime

paperdragon
04-25-2009, 6:49 AM
One more thing to add, you'll need to cycle your tank to let the beneficial bacteria build up again before you add fish again.

Rbishop
04-25-2009, 7:10 AM
Hmmmmm......do you also have a good liquid test lit to monitor levels while the tank re-cycles again?

Somervell
04-25-2009, 7:38 AM
Glad you were able to be helped by the forum, Aquachef. There are some very experienced fishkeepers here who can provide great advice. Remember, people, he did post this under the newbie forum. Perhaps a little more patience and gentle words would make Aquachef more inclined to ask for help again when he/she needs it. I agree that asking for more information in a post so that you can better advise is fine, but I think that I would feel like I was getting my hand smacked if one of my my first posts for help resulted in criticism of the way I posted or what I titled it. Suggesting a more accurate subject line is fine, but obnoxious? I'm just an old person who has dealt with people for a long time. Forgive me if it is off topic.

paperdragon
04-25-2009, 7:51 AM
Glad you were able to be helped by the forum, Aquachef. There are some very experienced fishkeepers here who can provide great advice. Remember, people, he did post this under the newbie forum. Perhaps a little more patience and gentle words would make Aquachef more inclined to ask for help again when he/she needs it. I agree that asking for more information in a post so that you can better advise is fine, but I think that I would feel like I was getting my hand smacked if one of my my first posts for help resulted in criticism of the way I posted or what I titled it. Suggesting a more accurate subject line is fine, but obnoxious? I'm just an old person who has dealt with people for a long time. Forgive me if it is off topic.
:thm:

Yeah, ACers can get a little rough with newbies sometimes. I hope I haven't done it myself, I have no clue since I'm not at the top of the game for social skills ya know. lol

dixienut
04-25-2009, 8:04 AM
i don't think 30minutes is enough to buitl up enough amm to kill that fast,. unless there was a lot of mulm stirred up??????

Somervell
04-25-2009, 2:01 PM
:thm:

Yeah, ACers can get a little rough with newbies sometimes. I hope I haven't done it myself, I have no clue since I'm not at the top of the game for social skills ya know. lol

Hey, PD, the fact that you were even thinking about being sensitive counts, for sure! Nobody has the corner on the market on social skills, and it's just so hard to see how we come across on forums. I guess it's internet communiation. Bottom line- Aquachef got good advice from everyone who posted here.

I agree with Dixienut, however. There would have to be an awful lot of gunk stirred up to cause this kind of a problem. When I started, I failed to clean until the water almost turned black when I vacuumed:lipssealedsmilie: The fish just sort of coughed and sputtered a little, then the filter took over and all was well. They never looked at me the same way though...