Red White Brigs

[snoopy65]

Some of you may remember me asking about the color of a grown brigs that I had rescued some time ago, and the coloring of it was stumping us all. Well it ended up dieing but before it died, I found out it was female because it layed a clutch for me. That clutch has hatched and after looking at all of my baby snails...which I end up doing alot of according to my husband, I do believe I have a red white young snail. I have checked the applesnail.net references and it says if the snail has a white/ivory shell base, red /brown stripes, and white foot - it is a red white. I have compared it to my yellow striped and my light purple striped. It's coloring is different than either one. I tried to get pictures of it, but my camera will not focus without the flash, and the flash distorts the color. I think that is what happened with trying to figure out the grown snails coloring. I think it too was the elusive red white but taking pictures with the flash made the coloring look wrong. It is one snail that I will be keeping! The next question is, what sex is it.....and what color to breed it with to MAYBE get more of them.

[bettabrat]

oo I'd love to see pix. Glad to know the legacy lives on snoopy!!

[snoopy65]

Thanks, a friend of mine has a really good camera, so hopefully I can get a couple pics of it.

[crimsonmoon]

how exciting!!! That is my alltime fav color!
hopefully you can breed more of them...i will be waiting :D

[dixienut]

i also think i have red/whit babies they are different than magentas, and the rest but they are still babies around half in, or so,..
been having a heck of a time figuring out what they are and as you said pic change the color,.. lol

breed with ivory as not to change the genetics,..

[snoopy65]

If we both are right, hopefully between the 2 of us we can come up with a male and a female of the red whites!!

[crimsonmoon]

breed with ivory as not to change the genetics,..

ivory is a recessive gene? or just a blank slate?

[snoopy65]

It is a blank. No color or white shell, no stripes, albino

[dixienut]

ivory in snails acts like paint, you can get ivory, the color you bred to and a lightened version of the color,.. that is how it has worked out for me,..
then you have awhat ever color that may be in the past parental history,.

[snoopy65]

Mine came from the mom I talked about and either ivory or blue. As those were the only males with her.

[dixienut]

blue has ivory in it, .. so either way its there
did you use the color calculator?

i ran the 2 options blue, ivory, red/white, yellow stripe ivory, red/brown, dspwith csb, peppemint
same identical colors in each,..

[snoopy65]

Yep I did too

[Bubbles2112]

Oh boy!! I think that's great!!! Can't wait for the pictures. You know about holding a magnifying glass over your camera lens right? Gives you a better shot.

[SunshinePuppies]

what is the color calculator? excuse my ignorance please.:)

[Hollygirl]

Can't wait to see the pictures of a red/white. I've never seen one before. Good luck with them Snoopy.

[snoopy65]

Sunshine it is a calculator that gives you what color babies you can get from any two snails http://www.angelfire.com/va/myevolution/snails/applet/color_cross.htm

Thanks Holly

[snoopy65]

I am going to try to take a pic with no flash today. It may be blurry but at least you will be able to see the coloring.

[snoopy65]

The first 2 pics are of the snail in question. The first is of it's foot. You can see that it's shell base is ivory. The second pic is of how much red is on it. It is almost all reddish brown stripes. The third pic is of my light striped purple, just to give you reference of the difference in color of this snail and my purple. It isn't lsp and it isn't yellow stripe/ chestnut (not gold based shell).

So what do you think? What would you call it.

[msjinkzd]

very pretty! I used to get ones like that but I called them burgundy's. they are beautiful!

[dixienut]

i have 2 exactly like that , but that isn't the one i was thinking was red/white perhaps brown/white?
but i could be wrong,lol
i have one that is white with stripes that show white between them??
whoo booy who would have known snails were so difficult??

well like the kids candy a (mystery) color, ha ha get it mystery snail,

i'll have to get pic up also,.. weird huh

hey rach, you beat me to post,.. that was what i was thinking they were , did you ever keep them to see what they grew up to be??

[snoopy65]

Thanks Rachel. I have a couple that have the same reddish hue but are dark footed. I thought those were the burgandy, so much for what I know. They aren't the typical dark striped purple color.

Take pics of yours dixienut I would love to see them.

[bettabrat]

Either way they are lovaly snoopy! I actually think I have one like that myself but it's still small it could change on me I guess as it gets bigger.

[snoopy65]

Thanks, I think once I can sex it, I will still breed it with an Ivory. That way I can share the color. It isn't one you see often.

[msjinkzd]

Th eones that I called burgundy (before all these color calculators, charts, and diagrams were so readily available) was a light foot, light base shell with dark reddish striping. It had both "cream" and red colored stripes. I called it burgundy and it was bred with my golds and was how I originally got started with all my magentas and dark purples. I will look to see if I have pics. I probably do. You can see in the pic, the magenta was from teh very first clutch I ever hatched and was the result of hte burgundy and a gold in another breeding tank. The others were predominantly gold, jade, and chestnut striped. I then moved most of them into this tank, introducing the ivories....and away I went, lol.
here ya go (this takes me way way back, lol, these were my "original" breeders from a couple years ago):
http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff170/msjinkzd/breeder.jpg

[snoopy65]

That is exactly the color it is!! My camera sucks, but that pic is almost identical to my snail.

[msjinkzd]

That is what I call burgundy then :) I find that the offspring from those is alot of wild type striped with some pinks and purples. It was the originator of all my magentas and dsp's :D

[snoopy65]

That is cool! I may have some magentas in my future then!!! The male that mated with my old female, which I now think was the same "burgandy", was one of yours. Maybe if I breed it with my lsp/magenta from you, I will get more of them. What do you think?

[msjinkzd]

I think its really likely. I would pair it with a "wild type" or an ivory and see what you get. That is how I got the best results. I honestly haven't found any of those calculators to be at all accurate.

[snoopy65]

From what I can tell, they pretty much don't work. At least for the pairings that I have had, they don't.

[thebrandon]

white+red=peppermint! yay!

[snoopy65]

Candy cane snails!