wanted to get bubble tip or some kinds of anem, [Archive]

dixienut

05-22-2009, 10:40 AM

lfs has a bobble tip that looks good, and i've read they are the easiest of all anem, is this true,. getting different reads about them some say feed reg others say light is enought and feed now and agin,..
they also have what looks like a condi,. but its sick looking?

first my tanks is 30g long and high turn over, 192w lighting pc 10,000k and antic,
set up well over a year,.
can i sustian one and how much of a hassel are they?

i have lm blenny and 2 black occel, clowns and few snails, and hermits,..
water is good,.. not showing nitrates or phosphates,. when water changing,
1 teeny frag of green zoas,.

any help would be appriciated,..

Ace25

05-22-2009, 10:53 AM

I think condi's are easier than bubble tips to care for, but not by much. They are both fairly easy to care for compared to others like carpets.

Yes, that tank and lighting, while size of the tank sounds to be bare minimum, it would work for you. I have known many people to successfully keep BTAs under PC lighting for many years.. and less lighting than you have. Just be careful with powerheads and BTAs.. seen my share of blended BTAs because of powerheads.

dixienut

05-22-2009, 11:04 AM

they all have sponges on them, but the skimmer is a cpr back pac and just has a little rounded entrance on it not sure how to or if i should cover it,.. plus i have a hob and a mag 350 that isn't covered,.. i wanted to rid these since i got the powerheads, but the hob grew a turf scrubber on the outlets and i didn't want to remove it and the mag has phospate remover stuff in it and thinking about usuing chemi pure elite any good?

Ace25

05-22-2009, 11:09 AM

Chemipure Elite is very good stuff.. just very expensive. All Chemipure elite is, is really high grade carbon, some polymers like Purigen stuff, and GFO media for phosphate removal all in one convenient bag. There is nothing special in the bag that is exclusive to the chemipure name, but it is nice they do all the work and package it for you.

dixienut

05-22-2009, 11:21 AM

what is the handling issue with them how do i get them here ?
and in the tank?

also how do i do water changes without getting them out of water? i usually do 20gal change on my tanks 2x a month,.
really can't do smaller one with 11 tanks i'm lucky to get these done,..

lanimret

05-22-2009, 4:51 PM

I bought a GBTA about a year ago. I love Anemone's and this was and still is one of my favorite and heartiest members of my fish tank.

That said, the thing splits constantly. I started with one, ended up selling 4 (with 4 left over) and an back up to 6 total again.

I used to sell them to my LFS, they loved them cause they were healthy and colorful. Now my LFS closed and I am afraid I am going to have to start killing the clones at some point soon :(

ktz216

05-22-2009, 5:17 PM

I think the flower anemone is the easiest to to keep...but it won't host any clowns though lol.
Hey lanimret, wanna trade your GBTA for coral frags?

Ace25

05-22-2009, 6:11 PM

So you do a 20G waterchange on a 30G tank 2x a month? No biggie, anemone can be out of water the short time it takes to do a waterchange. I do 50% weekly on my 75G tank, or 32G of water.. actually comes out to a little more than 50% in water for me with my sandbed and rocks.. but who's counting.

When you get an anemone and bring it home, scoop it out of the back with your hand (after floating/drip acclimating them in the bag, or container of your choice) and then turn off all your filters and powerheads in your tank when you place the anemone. Cup your hand over the top of it and very gently let the "foot" touch a rock. Usually healthy anemones will attach very quickly to a rock, within seconds from my experience. Whether they stay in the spot you put them is another story, they will walk around the tank, still attached to rocks, to find the best place for them. Never move an anemone that has moved itself.. they move to where they like to be best, not necessarily where you want them, but that is where they need to be. Sometimes it is where you put them, sometimes front and center, but sometimes in the back behind some rocks. Once the anemone has firmly attached itself to a rock then you can turn your powerheads/filters back on.

dixienut

05-22-2009, 6:52 PM

well i got back from lfs and they had 3 different anem, and i couldn't decide the condi was cheap 6.00something in change but i heard they get tangled too often in power heads,
then the bibbletip, at 45.00 was full blown, and white had the guy turn it over and the foot looked all hard and nasty not like the others,.. and last was the sebea, had 2 one ice white wpurple tip and grayish/tan with purple tip, looked like carpet anem, very contracted, had him tur it over and nice soft foot, clean looking for 30.00 well i took the sebea, then got home and looked it up and they say its the worst of all them,:shakehead::irked:

he's dripping now, look like heck when i got him out,
tried to feed it thawed brine shrimp and put it in its mouth and it set there and after a while in the specimin cup with a 10wcf light on top its little arms started to twitch and he started to wiggle each one,.. a bit ago it looked he spit slime out mouth,. after about hour or so,. i hope it makes it and not becomes a pain in the arse,..

also got a hawiian feather duster, nice one they had 2 but on wasn't attached to a rock, and i thought it would blow around my tank, it was the prettiest one tho,.. its having a feild day now bought some food for it,..

any advice for this dummy??????

Ace25

05-22-2009, 7:26 PM

Stop making impulse buys. ;) Saying this from my own experience many many many times over. LOL. Seems to always be bad news when you get home and look up what you just bought after the fact.

Ya, seabae... well, you read it. Featherdusters are worms with a softshell, put them down low in a fairly moderate flow area. Just keep an eye on it, gently put in between some rocks and near the sand. They eat Phytoplankton. Keep an eye on the crown "feathers", make sure they look healthy and full. If they are looking frayed or curled up, or not coming out much, or worst, drops the crown off altogether, you have something wrong with your water parameters or flow for it. Even if it loses the feather top if you correct the issues it will grow a new one with time.

DSR

05-22-2009, 8:20 PM

I have a nice feather duster worm (actually I have about 7 (six were unintended hitchhikers and were very small)> I the one intentional is huge and such an amazing addition to my tank. Really pretty look at and and very fun to watch.

dixienut

05-22-2009, 9:13 PM

sebeas'
i've read many things that differ, what the straight forward?
by the time he got done acclimating he was spreading out good and getting comfy,. just for me to take him out and put him in the tank,.
so he shrunk up,.. had to change a few rock around where i wanted him away from the powerheads,. the rock had no crannies, so i took one in front of p.h. and moved it over it had a nice hole with an arch,.. and i put him there so he could stuck his foot in it and he kinda sunk way in and puckered himself,..lol
wow after the main light went out and just antics on he looks like he melted into the rock doubled in size and tentacles getting longer and his mouth is oped big, so i just fed him again, put frozed adult brine shrimp in a pipette and squirted some in his mouth and he just finished swallowing it,..lol nature really weird,lol
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any one see my astrea snail on top of rock above the sebea? he's incogneato, covered in some looks like lettuce algea

and the feather duster is great very happy and healthy i think i'll go and get the other one i guess i can place it under my own rock just to weight it down a wee bit,.. actually between 2 rocks in the cranny of them,..
well heres a few pics,..
he also had some din din got kent's phytoplex for him

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Ace25

05-22-2009, 9:17 PM

HOLY BUBBLE ALGAE BATMAN!

Ace25

05-22-2009, 9:20 PM

Also, that aneome looks severely bleached out. Sounds really good though that it attached to the rock quickly and is eating. Keep feeding it several times a day for a while to get some color back in it. Unfortunately though, I think the Sebae is one of the more light demanding anemones, and I don't think PC lights are going to cut it.

dixienut

05-22-2009, 9:32 PM

HOLY BUBBLE ALGAE BATMAN!

yes they came with my lr,... i gave up on picking them out now i just do it to squirt my boy with them,,lol he likes to squeeze them into the trach can,..

what light can cut it? cheaply? they have those round mh used on cl but the guy that has them is the kind that want all his money back from them,. says he paid 500.00 for them new a few months ago what is a fair price for them now? i think he has 2,. i jsut need 1 over the anemone right? i want his set up but the guy thinks he got a stringer, but all he got a a broke housewife,..lol has 46bow/stand/ drilled sump everything for 300.00 way out of my luege,. or i can pick and choose,.

the one i left in the store was snow white this one had some color beige'ish
so i figured it was better than the others,. the bubble one was also snow white,..

Ace25

05-22-2009, 9:43 PM

Ya, I have found the same thing at most of my LFS, anemone selection and health are always very low for some reason. Seems the best way to get a nice healthy anemone now a days is to find a local reefer who had one split and is selling it. Most of the time those are super colorful and healthy anemones compared to the ones you see in stores. A white bubble tip.. unless it was a condy, which are white, I think a white bubble tip would mean a completely bleached bubble tip because I have never heard of a healthy white BTA.

You can get a light much cheaper than even $250, especially used, that would work for you. Someone else can chime in with light suggestions while I go look for some options.

dixienut

05-23-2009, 10:34 AM

bump anyone Else's input please the more the merrier,..
also help on the mh lites,.

lanimret

05-23-2009, 11:19 AM

I'd be willing to try shipping them, have not done that before. Would require some instructions. I'd rather not start having to kill them :(

Digicam broke, but I got a brand new one coming in the mail right now. Soon as I get it I will post some pictures.

dixienut

05-23-2009, 3:22 PM

do i return it to die, or should i keep it to find it a good home?

it seems so happy here, a lot better than there,.. its only been24 hours but i'm already attached,..
God i hate this, i can't afford the lights it needs,.
but i have more than the stor has, and i feed it ,.. just got done eating mysis shrimp for the first time, lfs said its better than brine, which i knew but it was so sick and week i wanted itto eat something small,

anyone want a sebea for what i've paid for it? so i can get a b,tip?

dixienut

05-23-2009, 3:46 PM

does he look any better hes ate 3x so far today,..

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he's wiggled a bit but has stayed put,.. and is acting and reacting more now,..

Ace25

05-23-2009, 4:04 PM

If your tank is the lesser of the 2 evils so to speak then definately keep him and try and bring him back to life. Like I said, it is acting healthy, attaching quickly and eating, so that is a very good sign. Just keep an eye on it, keep feeding it, regular water changes, and hope for the best. There is always a chance the anemone will make it even under less than ideal lighting.

If this is your first anemone.. be prepared for when it shrinks up and digests, brown slimey stuff out its mouth and shrinks up to almost nothing. This is normal, but freaks everyone out the first time. Mysis is a good food, but anemones can eat even bigger food like silversides once and a while as well (like 2x a month feed it a silverside)

dixienut

05-23-2009, 5:07 PM

its my first but i'm no slouch to critter keeping if there is one thing i know eating and pooping,.. so to speak,.lol in the farm animals line you learn all there is to know, it the same just different locations,.. just think if you had a 100%soft body what you would look like crapping,..lol :rofl:

well that enough of that ,..lol normal process of life is the norm with me,.. just what they eat and how often is where i need to study,..

dixienut

05-23-2009, 5:10 PM

oh yeah i forgot i read that bristol worms are a bother to them and my million are starting to peck at him teeny ones out from the rock,.. how can i get them out? they even live on my snails, that have algea growung on them,.lol can you trap them? or just the big ones,..

lanimret

05-23-2009, 6:04 PM

Get an arrow crab. He cleaned my Bristle Worms out and then starved. Couldn't get him to eat anything else.

BTW, I love invert's if you can tell. Probably more than the fish.

dixienut

05-23-2009, 6:43 PM

they are way too spider like for me,..lol i hate spiders,. besides my tank is way too small for them they get huge,.

Ace25

05-23-2009, 9:49 PM

DSR

05-23-2009, 10:28 PM

It is looking a bit better. Looks very similar to the nems at the LFC near my house. What color is his body? Is a nice health pinkish reddish color (Like the color of imitation crab meat? ).

As for the bubble algae, might want to consider getting a handle on that... unless that nem is really small, you have huge bubble algea

DSR

05-23-2009, 10:30 PM

YOu can find MH lights for around 150-250 on marinedepot and many other online sources. Heck, check CL first you may get lucky.

dixienut

05-24-2009, 8:16 AM

They sell bristle worm traps (http://www.thatpetplace.com/pet/group/10547/product.web) that work amazingly well.

That bubble algae to me is like spiders to you... Something about bubble algae when I see it I think "KILL IT WITH FIRE!" LOL. I guess in reality if it doesn't bother you and your pulling them out whole and not popping them in the water when you can it isn't any harm to the tank to have them in there.

well i don't like it but it kinda hard to get rid of,.. i try to pick them off, and lot do break and thats why i leave it unless it comes off nice,. after i put 3 powerheads in some just blow away and i can catch them

any ideas to try to kill it?

dixienut

06-06-2009, 10:31 PM

well tried the bristol worm trap well it worked they went in ate the bait, and then left,.. twice,.. there goes 14.00,

anyway........the anemone,
i finally got some raw prawns at the store and fed a piece of one,
and he doubled in size an hour later,..
the mysis shrimp wasn't doing it,..

i looked up on line and petco sells them as white anemones
looked on google and it also lists some sebeas as white and the look the same?
i also put a cf screw in bulb in a clamp on light and added that on him to help and he has moved a bit under a ledge from where he was,..

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DSR

06-07-2009, 4:15 PM

That's the same one I have... mean sucker. Killed me cleaner shrimp it did.... but hearty fer sure (my daughter and I are pirates today)

dixienut

06-07-2009, 9:17 PM

lol,..
is yours as white? was this before your tank accident or after?

DSR

06-08-2009, 11:08 AM

Yep. Mine looks just like yours. White with purple tips. This is the second one we got and I think the primary issue is that the one I got was too big... at the store it was very small but once in the tank under the metal halide light it grew to be pretty big. I feed it entire cubes of mysis shrimp every couple of days.

I am thinking that, given my tank is a nano, I will be finding a new home for it this week. Hopefully the LFS I really like will take it in... although I don't know that he carries any condys so I am not for certain that he would want it. We shall see.

lanimret

06-20-2009, 6:53 PM

So I finally got moved and in the process I snagged two of my GBTA's and put them in a container (which I am currently floating in the refugium until I figure out what I am doing).

I really hate to just kill them, but I have no LFS anymore. Anyone interested and willing to help me figure out how to ship them?