HI EVERYONE I NEED SOME ADVISE/KNOWLEDGE

[CEEEYE]

whats up people? i'm chris i have an intresting tank its a soon to be changed 20 gallon.in there i have 2 jack dempseys,2x silver dollars, 3x kissing gouramis, 1x irredessant shark,1x spotted catfish? 1x algea eater? 2x african clawed frogs and my girl friends angel fishI just bought a striped raphael catfish 2 days ago .It was fine until this morning when i noticed it was on the bottom upside down.I used the net to see if he was alive,it was but when it swam away it was doing spirals.it also does a dead mans float kinda thing.any help would be appreciated

[Rbishop]

Welcome to AC! I suggest making a thread in the FW forums about your issues, posting more info such as the current water readings and how long this tank has been established. Are all those fish in the same 20 gallon tank, or did I read the post wrong?

[zerosum]

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[msjinkzd]

Welcome to Ac! Good luck with your tank.

[Squawkbert]

Welcome to AC, but I feel that I must caption zerosum's pic at your expense...


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Number One, You have taken overstocking to a new level.

[BioHazard]

Welcome, CEEEYE.
If that is indeed a 20 gallon tank, and not a 200 gallon tank, you are way way way way way way way overstocked. The only things on that list suitable for a 20 gallon are the frogs.
I suggest posting a thread in the Freshwater Newbie section, and then we can help you out, assuming you are willing to do whats best for the fish.

[swinneyw]

lots of fish

[Wycco]

The good news is- you have a great excuse to go out and buy a bigger tank! ;)

The bad news is... you don't have enough room to get a dozen oscars.



You're going to have problems until you can return some fish- or get a bigger tank. Their wastes will quickly poison each other otherwise. That and I'm sure they're rather stressed at being over-crowded.

[BioHazard]

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[excuzzzeme]

I am not trying to be mean , BUT:

The silver dollars get as large as a coffee cup saucer, the shark will get to 36" on the average, the 2-JD's are aggressive type fish. You don't say what kind of algae eater and since most stores push common plecos as an algae eater, it needs a 75 gallon tank. They grow their entire lives and can get in excess of 20". Your stock is completely non-compatible and tank is very much undersized for the fish you have. You will need a 150gallon tank at minimum.

I suggest you return all fish until you have an adequate sized tank. Keeping them will cause deaths due to stunting and the extremely heavy bio-load in such a small tank. We can help you stock your tank with appropriate sized fish.

[snoopy65]

whats up people? i'm chris i have an intresting tank its a soon to be changed 20 gallon.in there i have 2 jack dempseys,2x silver dollars, 3x kissing gouramis, 1x irredessant shark,1x spotted catfish? 1x algea eater? 2x african clawed frogs and my girl friends angel fishI just bought a striped raphael catfish 2 days ago .It was fine until this morning when i noticed it was on the bottom upside down.I used the net to see if he was alive,it was but when it swam away it was doing spirals.it also does a dead mans float kinda thing.any help would be appreciated


First :welcome: to AC! We are a community that wants to help.

Second, as you have already been given advise on, the stock in your tank is way too much for a 20 gal tank.

Third, if you are willing to take the advise of the many people who have vast experience with fish keeping, we can make your tank an enjoyable one for you and the inhabitants that you ultimately choose for your 20 gal tank.

If you want to keep all of the fish you have, you indeed are going to need a 100+ gal tank to house the pleco/ algae eater, Jack Dempseys, shark and silver dollars (which you will want to increase in numbers to about 6 as they like to school). You will need another 55 or 75 gal tank to house the 3 kissing gourami and possibly the catfish. Yet another tank to house the Angelfish or frogs. The angel by itself could stay in the 20 or the frogs. Not both. If you choose to go this route, we can help you round out the inhabitants of each tank.

However, if you only want the one 20 gal tank, I suggest you return the fish and frogs to the store and start over.

And finally, please, please, research size and compatibility of all inhabitants before you purchase.

[Bea8902]

maybe swimbladder

[Bea8902]

oh, and :welcome:

[Conski]

Welcome man, get a bigger tank :) haha i did the same thing except not with cichlids

[dixienut]

:welcome: